Ben Simmons and JJ Redick Have An Honest Conversation About His Shooting
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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2022
- Ben Simmons (The Brooklyn Nets) talks with JJ Redick about the frustration around the shooting narrative with The Philadelphia 76ers and how he let it mess with his game.
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Jason Gallagher here. We took the word 'narrative' out of the title because we see a few comments saying we're implying it's a made up issue. We promise that's not the case. His shooting struggles and the lack of shooting were very real. We just wanted to have a discussion about the shooting itself, the dialogue around it (from fans and media) and how that impacted him. Narrative was the wrong word and that's on me. Hope this clears it up.
Appreciate the acknowledgment of the title change. We trust you guys and what you do on this channel
Appreciate the transparency
It wasn't the wrong word.
Idiots with keyboards just need to get a dictionary
Don’t worry about the idiots on here
Yea you sounded nervous asking him the shooting question lol. “Narrative”was just a word you used to sugar coat the question. All good brodie.
1. It's not a narrative, it's a fact
2. Ben we do recognize everything you do great
3. Just shoot the open shots in game because if you start making a couple, defenders gotta respect your jumper and then your teammates get more open (wild concept I know)
1. A narrative doesn't mean a lie, it just means it's the main thing people talk about when they talk about Ben's game.
2. His playmaking and defensive skills definitely get talked about way less than his lack of shooting.
@@askesl narrative inherently refers to something being perpetuated by others but it's not. It's just an observation of fact. Also yes we may talk about his lack of shooting most but that's because he has proven he has those other things. We talk about his shooting because it's the next step for leap from all star to mvp candidate
The guy doesn’t take open lay ups
You're overlooking that two letter word you mentioned. "IF you start making a couple". That's the problem. There is no IF. He's not going to just start making a couple and will throw up bricks 90% of the time. So when you throw up a few Westbricks, then what should he do? Continue to throw up more open shot bricks?
@@citrustaco Ben shouldn’t play then. The guys doesn’t like to play and refused to play for 76ers then Nets
Guys beta
It's not that Ben can't shoot. It's that he plays like he's scared to shoot. Like he doesn't even want to go to the line
Beta Ben
FR even Giannis has shown willingness to improve his shot and I remember when he went absolutely insane from the free throw line to seal the deal against the Suns and win his ring.
@Risan 70 % I'll take
he's made 5 threes his entire career including pre and post season. he can't shoot
Does it matter tho.
1:20 man that's where the conversation ended. The honest discussion wasn't 'ben can't shoot' but it's 'ben won't shoot.' there isn't a person alive who thinks Ben shouldn't give up a wide open shot if JJ has a better look...it's when teams intentionally double JJ and Joel because they know when Ben is wide open he won't even attempt to shoot
Yup. He took a 3 and made it in a preseason game and the Sixers fans celebrated like they won the championship.
Dude had tons of support. That super passive Hawks series was the tipping point. It was more than just passing up the dunk on Trae, but that play perfectly encapsulated Ben's series.
Obviously Ben's mental health is really important and he's an amazing player, but Sixers fans being upset wasn't misplaced at all
nailed it
@@BlueHundred1 perfectly said
@@BlueHundred1 Yes, I remember that. Funniest thing I have ever seen. I was laughing my assoff when I was 6ers fans celebrating like that lol
this thing, i remembered Lebron done this (giving wide open shot) to Ben & Butler (Butler for 3s)
BUT DAMN, Butler workhard for his 3s in the next season while Ben giving up after Hawk.
This is a masterclass in how to not be self aware. Dude has an explanation for everything 🤣
Well he’s in the nba and you’re in this CZcams comment section. Maybe he’s not the one with the self awareness issue
I was thinking the same thing he just isn't grasping what ppl are saying. He won't own up to it
@@Mav0011 one of the dumbest come back I've ever read. We don't need to play in NBA to know that bs offensive game is a liability for a team, like we don't need to do an album to know that Eminem is good!
@@steveal2913 real talk
@@steveal2913 his come back wasn’t good, but wtf is that analogy my man 😭😭
How is it a narrative if he LITERALLY DOESN'T SHOOT???
I'm sorry, what Ben is saying is BS. You're an NBA player that doesn't shoot the basketball at a decent level. People aren't asking you to be Steph Curry, just shoot the damn basketball!!!
You've been in the league 4 years, and getting paid superstar level money. And you're saying it is what it is???? SHOOT THE BASKETBALL!
A LARGE amount of players at the highest level especially at 6"10 didnt shoot the ball. He literally has one of the most versatile games in the league can gaurd and play 1-5 without much issue
@@marcwilliams3692 if he plays perimeter, he has to shoot. If he is PF, we can talk about it, but still, more and more tall players are adding jump shot to their game
Idk it seems to me that Ben's mindset is that the right play is to find an open man (who is a better shooter) than to shoot it himself. He says so himself, he _can_ shoot it if his team really believes that it's the correct play, but in his mind why would he shoot a 25% shot when he can drive in post up, or find the open man? He doesn't care about his stats (if he did he could easily average a triple double). That seems to be his mindset anyway.
My thoughts on this is that Ben is correct to assume that his low percentage shot is most likely not the best play in most situations. BUT, by refusing to shoot (whether it be for a good reason or not) he is limiting his own development as a player by not building up that in-game confidence in his shot. Therefore, he will not improve as a player if he doesn't try new things, even if it means taking a few objectively bad shots.
Giannis is a great example of a player who could have been content with simply running, dunking, and passing, but he decided to bring his game to the next level by adding a decent shot from outside the dunkers spot, even if it meant taking bad shots in his early shot development.
@@Kodreanu23 he doesn’t have to shoot lol. He has a massive contract from not shooting. He can literally not change his style and play another 10 years and be an all star most of those years.
@@GLJ2414 oh, we will see about that. If everybody figures out that his style has limitations his value will drop. He is good for a playoff team, not a championship team.
Talking about Ben's shooting is like talking about my Ferrari... I don't have one.
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Ben can shoot tho lol, it’s a mental state
Lmfao
Its funny watching them act like the media and the fans created a false narrative that Ben doesnt shoot.The dude has shot like 2 3pt jumpers his entire career and then JJ had the audacity to bring up Giannis as an example.I hope Ben has people in his life that are willing to have a truely honest conversation with him not like the one he had with JJ
Exactly, while im glad jj asking tough questions, it still comes off as pandering
If you aren’t good at something, then why do it? Westbrook would have been so much better if he accepted that he cant shoot jumpers.
@@j.s3300 westbrick a different story. His free throw and pull up 15 footer used to be money. But they both fell off a while ago
But people DO nitpick Giannis’ shooting.
He’s not saying that Giannis’ shooting is like Ben’s. He’s saying that Giannis is being criticized for his shooting too.
@@leahcimoyatse5511 but Giannis STILL SHOOTS THE BALL! Who cares if he’s not great at it if he’s at least trying to do it regardless. No one is saying that it’s just that he can’t, he doesn’t even try. That’s the issue. Him acting like people are just making stuff up is silly. It’s just pandering from JJ. And kind of disingenuous.
Giannis, Russ, they both struggle in the perimeter. But they keep themselves aggressive on the offensive end in other ways. It is obvious Ben has this huge mental block that affects his game overall and its really glaring on the offensive side. If you watched his games where he struggled offensively, it becomes a challenge for him to score even at the post.
He is just full of crap mate. Getting paid that much money but chuck a tantrum. Come on now. He should get paid like civilians and see what he does then.
yeah, what's frustrating about him is he never shoots! Giannis & Westbrook are never afraid of shooting so how can we know if he can't shoot???
Westbrook 💀
Acting like Westbrook has always been bad
Russ not anymore 🤣💀💀
It's not a narrative. It's reality
It’s indeed a narrative when people downplay what he does
@@freddycalipari4242 no one down plays what he does, all Philly fans have ever done is talked about the one thing he doesn’t do..and that’s shoot the ball, which is fact not narrative. You can’t be a point guard scared to shoot a jumpsuit, literally hurts the team. If he were a center we wouldn’t be having this discussion because it wouldn’t matter. If he were shooting and missing we wouldn’t be having this discussion either, our only problem was that he DOES NOT EVEN ATTEMPT to shoot the ball which is pathetic.
@@freddycalipari4242 nobody downplays what he does. Ben just wants to be praised for what he does well and ignore what he doesn’t
@@freddycalipari4242he doesn’t shoot? How is it a narrative?
I think what bothers people is that the basketball gods gave this man every tool to dominate the game except shooting and it looks like something he can develop. It hurts seeing potential wasted.
4 Years in the NBA Is not narrative. It's sad that JJ say this.
He doesn’t need to shoot dumbass
He was giving him outs the whole interview
JJ’s job is to protect the players, so it’s not surprising
@@Chali_M yea but he had to
@@qualiasound7569 No he didn't
The problem isn't centred around whether Ben can create shots or not. The problem is, when the ball is in his hands and it's his chance to shoot, the shooting just isn't there. This is a guy who can do everything other than shoot in a game where shooting is required to win. Amazing stuff, really.
if shot 3s when he was wide open and missed no one would have a problem. its the fact that he wont ever shoot. Giannis isn't a good shooter but he will shoot wide open ones
Even Giannis who’s game is about running to the basket he still shoots those open threes once in a blue moon
Nah he be shooting them every game. Ben going to be ok doe.
no he actually shoots a lot more than u think. he averages almost 4 three point attempts per game (3.6). if it was only like 10-15 years ago, that number would be considered a very decent amount. for reference, kobe averaged 4.1 threes per game for his career
a lot of great players in history couldn’t shoot jumpers or free throws, the problem is the fact that you don’t ever take any jumpers and seem to not want to attack defenders because you don’t wanna get fouled. the fact that you don’t shoot hurts the half court offense for your team in the playoffs, makes it hard to have you as a primary ball handler because the other team is just gonna sag off you and load up on another player. giannis airballing free throws and 3s sometimes is way more respectable than straight up being afraid of shooting them. every player has weaknesses
Plus teh fact that Giannis' hard work and tenacity payed off in the playoffs when he needed it most. Giannis is not a good freethrow shooter by any stretch of the imagination, but he never gave up or got scared. He is consistently in the top 5 FTA every year, because he doesnt let his weakness dictate his game. He is still a paint beast that will get a bucket one way or another, and it got rewarded in the playoffs when he went mfing 17/19 from the line in the closeout game. You wont be getting anything close to that from someone who cant even take a wide open jumper
@@fakedan6568 Well said. I like Ben Simmons and hope the best for him, but when the rubber meets the road he's gotta have a day of reckoning for the sake of any franchise(s) he plays with in his future.
Tonight, the Nets just dropped to 1-4 After losing to the Mavericks 125-129. KD and Kyrie combined to about *66 points* ; two players scored over HALF the team's points yet they still lost. I'm not saying Ben is their only problem (he's definitely not lol), but his lack of tenacity when it comes to shooting not only hurts himself but his team as well. The moment that day of reckoning comes--assuming it ever does--and Ben decides to work on his shooting, the entire league would be on high alert
@@triv4555 this has only been a recent opinion, but as of right now, if categorise Giannis as the far better passer than Ben, despite Ben being more categorised as a ball handling guard than Giannis.
Ben likes to compare himself to Giannis just because they have a (notice the use of the article, cause it's literally just one) single common deficiency (to a varying degree), but never mentions how Giannis has way more upside on both his strengths and his weaknesses, and doesn't allow his weaknesses to dictate his game.
Even now, the only thing I'd say Ben is better than Giannis at is perimeter defense, and not by a large margin. Everything else, Giannis either stomps or is comfortably better at.
I do think Ben will come back and be a respectable player, but it will be too late for him to gain the respect of any causal fan without becoming a pseudo-supertstar, and I can't exactly blame them (especially after that JJ interview where he was deflecting left right and centre)
I’m shocked how much these guys kissed Ben Butt wow
Really? JJ has always been a bootlicker
Mad?
@@theylovemari4178 this video was a rip-off bruh
He wears a shooting sleeve! 🤣🤣🤣
“You dont want me to shoot but you want me to shoot” bro.. we wanted you to shoot. Smh this whole series a puff piece for ben.
PR attempt
This part
BINGO
Perhaps he was talking about the coaches exact role and green lights for him not being clear
@@kennethjones4002 nobody said they DON’T want him to shoot. He’s full of it.
Jj is walking on eggshells with this guy he wants a cookie for guarding the best player .
Pathetic
JJ this interview was a L honestly you held his hand throughout the whole thing I get you don't want to get him mad and have him walk off but a true journalist asks the questions without being biased towards one side you shoulf have held him accountable for what he did and for what he doesn't do
Cut him some slack man. He's a basketball player and teammate first before he's a journalist. He'd lose a lot of credibility with the NBA player base if he went too hard on someone. It's important to be cordial and friendly. Otherwise, other players under media scrutiny might be wary of coming on the podcast. End of the day no one would be hearing from Simmons if it wasn't for him.
Yup. He trashes Bob Cousy and then coddles Ben Simmons.
Finally someone said it
@@botleydot yea but nobody will care about his future interviews if he’s just gonna continue to coddle them instead of INTERVIEW THEM.
You think JJ will get Ben to open up if JJ went that route?
"Narrative" is the catch phrase of the "new media"
This is sad by JJ.
This is pretty embarrassing for JJ. Just blatant unapologetic pandering. Ben literally says "we need to make them guard everyone," when BEN WAS THE GUY THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO GUARD. This interview told us literally nothing we didn't know before.
Surprised a marshmallow company hasn’t hired Ben Simmons to be there spokesman.
dude literally doesn't shoot though, why is that a narrative? scottie barnes MADE more threes in his rookie season than ben has ATTEMPTED in his entire CAREER, it's no narrative, just facts
Why are those 2 things related at all?
because he’s a basketball player… the main point at the end of the day is to put the ball in the basket if he can’t do that hes a major disadvantage to his team
the entire "narrative" doesn't exist if he even attempts threes but simmons literally has not done that so it's fair to bring up that hole in his game since he appears to be stubborn to change
Just a reminder that Boban Marjanovic has twice the amount of career 3 pointers made as ben Simmons
How did you keep a straight face when he says the excuses about not shooting? 🤣😂
I just realized I've never heard this man talk until right now 🤣🤣
I don’t know if people remember. If you watch his college & summer league games, he was actually shooting & hitting the midrange jumpers. At some point the coaching staff had to tell him to get away from that because his game changed drastically
They don’t. He took him all day with fades too lol
It's not coaching it's him being scared
I didn’t know it was April 1st already?!!?
Love seeing Ben happy!
The issue with the optics is that it looks like Ben feels he doesn’t need to improve. Yes you do a lot on the court but great players try to expand and improve their game. Giannis who’s won multiple mvp’s, defensive player of the year and a title is trying to improve his shot and add to his game… but you’re saying you don’t need to…and you’re a point guard... Alright Ben
If he did so many other things great why were his teams so bad in the playoffs? Passing on wide open shots doesn't help your teammates, it makes their job harder bc nobody has to guard him. I could see if ppl were getting on him about his FG% but they are getting on him bc he WON'T EVEN TRY. 2-5 shots in a playoff game is BS & nobody should excuse it. Not attempting something is not a solution to possible failure!!!
2:27😂😂😂😂😂😂 my Boy smiling like unboxing some Christmas Jordans
This man JJ had Ben come on here and JJ asked all the right questions ...
This is a FAILED PR attempt you drunk or high JJ??
"Ben, Shoot it!" - Kyrie Irving during an actual basketball game.
I wouldn't care at this point....if he missed shoots.
It's the FACT he doesn't even attempt them. If he attempted outside shots it would open up the court more. Most defenses if Ben is outside the paint guard 4 players. That makes it hard on teammates
Ben doesn’t even take open Layups. This guys always has excuses
“I just wanna win”
he didn’t take one layup Lori, one.
Bro it was one layup & he explained why he didn’t take it & he acknowledged he was wrong. I wonder how he averages 18 if he doesn’t take layups? Stfu Lori
Bro it was one layup & he explained why he didn’t take it & he acknowledged he was wrong. I wonder how he averages 18 if he doesn’t take layups? Stfu Lori
He literally said he should of dunked it lol
I got in my head back in college about my shooting. I regret it completely looking back.
Just let it fly bro.
What’s the worst that could happen?
A real player can shoot threes and get guys open three's
haha clearly you have very little understanding of basketball and sports in general
Micheal Jordan didn’t have to shoot three’s to get players open! His mid-range low post game was good enough to help everybody else. Why not do something your good at!
Beta Ben
Him taking a sip of the wine when Jj is in Middle if asking has me crying
So they talked a lot and said nothing...why didn't JJ just say Ben, why haven't you improved your shooting
I couldn't shoot when I was his age either.
Ben still has plenty of time to develop his "old man" game.
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He’s almost 30.
If he doesn’t have it now he never will.
@1:29 yes Ben, shooting the ball is also in fact just a part of the game 😂
"Your 3 point creation for other players for 3s was the highest in the league for 3 years."
But a few years ago is when teams REALLY started leaving players who can't shoot completely open if they were off ball (creating a 4 on 5 basically) - or if they had the ball, guarded them with a centre who would clog the paint (essentially, still, a 4 on 5). You can't run pnr or beat a centre with athleticism because they just stand at the ring and wait, while you limit your shooters because there are more defenders in the paint now permanently, leaving more players to guard the 3.
That's when his offence got terrible. All he could do was sit in the dunker spot.
He played best at centre. But embiid was always there with him which made him completely redundant.
But Ben is legit the best perimeter defender this century. Easily. If he managed to get a floater game, or just play centre on offence vs small guards, similar to jokic... he could be a great piece.
If he's interested in basketball that is. Remember when he said that "I don't wanna ball. I see myself more as a socialite/ fashion icon?" Maybe he just wants to scam contracts and be a personality. This is just PR for him, potentially.
It's good he is talking he is a good dude and he has to repair that image.that alone shows growth .good for you Ben
So, is he gonna eventually shoot this year or not?
The criticisms isn't that he passes too much. It's that he frequently passes when he has open layups
Immediately after he passed up the open lay up, he locked Trae Young up and made him pick up his dribble on back to back plays... The media does this strange thing where some one dimensional players get overwhelming praise when they only effect the game in one way, while players who effect the game in multiple ways get overwhelming hate when they're deficient in one category
Tbf the media doesn't value defense the way it should, but Ben Simmons was hyped up for a long time and we've been waiting to see him improve to the superstar he could be but he's stayed complacent and has even regressed this past year. Trae isn't one dimensional, neither is Ben, but Ben just refuses to get better at shooting and it's bewildering
It isn’t about that one play. Passing up that dunk is the persona of the Ben Simmons saga in Philly, and fans were just over it. We needed that series win more than you know
Correction JJ there is a perfect player.(MJ).He was exceptional at literally every aspect of the game
MJ wasn't an elite free throw shooter. He was definitely good at 83.5%, perhaps evn very good. But I wouldn't call him an exceptional FT shooter. That said, if his weakest aspect is his 83%FT shooting, you're pretty incredible.
There is no perfect player period
There’s a difference between Giannis and Ben . Giannis actually works to get better at his craft and has shown improvement every year . With Simmons what you see is what you get this man has shown no improvement since he entered the league . Again showing ZERO accountability
I swear I saw a bucks game last year where Gianni’s made 4 attempted 3s in a row and had 4/6 from three and I felt like that guy is really working unlike this guy over here
@@malik1993619 he’s shown no attempt or willingness to improve on his game . He really thinks I’m just good and no need to improve that’s why he throws so much shade a Doc rivers because Doc wanted him to be better and improve and held accountable
Ben had to drink to this take😂😂
#1 video about ben and I'm glad he admits his flaws. would love to have this confidant ben on my team again but I don't think he can get comfortable again on the court imo
This dude is all excuses and no accountability. It’s crazy… I can’t be the only one that sees this right? All he does is deflect. Does he not see his flaws?
Legend has it this Man hasn’t shot a 3 to this day
No one's asking Ben to shoot lights out but he practically doesn't attempt any shot past 6 feet. It's not that hard to develop a little floater or something at a decent clip. Having a respectable ability to make a shot past 6 feet would make creating shots for others much easier. It's been several seasons and there's been no noticeable progress. He's gotten a bit better defensively but that's about it. The issue is if he's striving to be good or is he striving to be great?
Let’s GOOO!!! MP the city behind you
That sip of wine before it starts, god bless Ben for the stupid scrutiny
how ben simmons being calm and stubborn at the same time? Lol
It shouldn't be, but it's hilarious to hear Ben talk about "easy buckets" from here on out :D
Stop babying him, JJ. Give him the hard questions and don't explain it for him. Why does he play like he doesn't want to shoot? Does he think he works hard enough to improve his shooting? Is he really scared to shoot? Does he love the game enough to improve this weakness?
This interview is bens PR run, not an honest conversation
not the topic, but does anyone know what glasses is jj wearing
Can anyone ID JJ's glasses?? They are sweet
Where is the follow up question when Ben says he is practicing shooting? What is he doing?
I love JJ but I think this is a clear example of why some podcast host are better than others. He never grills Ben, he’s never truly honest with him, and that allows Ben to not be honest with himself and his replies.
Saying Ben Simmons can’t shoot isn’t a narrative… he can’t shoot and most importantly he doesn’t shoot. To allow him to sit on the platform and say “well I do other things” is irresponsible and bad journalism.
Yes Ben is a good player but he gets paid like a top 10 talent, he’s a guard, and that means he should know how to shoot and if he doesn’t he should put the time in and learn ESPECIALLY in this era of the league. The criticism is WELL warranted and it’s not a narrative.
It's wild how much Ben refuses to improve. Every other star player from his draft class has improved their shooting from their rookie years, but Ben hasn't made any leap or even a bump of improvement. I understand his mental health plays a role into it too, if he needs help he should get it- but that doesn't mean he can just ignore simple critiques. It's not even a reach
He just keeps saying "idk it is what it is 🤷♂️" lol
He needs to master the euro to the basket and spin move to the basket to start.
(asks about shooting) *takes giant gulp of wine*
I think Ben is a consistent jump shot away from being a modern day Scottie Pippen .. dude can do everything else at an elite level
Ben Simmons puts a ton of pressure on a defense but his lack of shooting puts a complexity into his decision making that shouldn’t be there. It makes for arkward situations on the court basketball wise that should flow smoothly but end up hurting his team.
Perfect example is him passing up a wide open dunk against the Hawks
What's crazy is that he used to have a jumper in his early years. All we want is him to ATTEMPT 1/2 threes a game or even open 2pointers at least
There’s no player less committed to being great than Ben simmons
I’ve been at a sixers game and saw Ben hitting 3s back to back in shoot around. I even got to see him hit one in game. Problem isn’t that he’s missing shots, it’s that he’s not even trying to take them.
I always come back to see the pro Ben Simmons comments lol.
It’s wild watching JJ who’s known for primarily for shooting coddle this man like it’s not a fact that he doesn’t shoot. Like ask him why hasn’t he improved his shooting skill after all this time ???
Me an my friend were jus talkin about this, if Ben simmons locks in as the Defensive anchor for the Nets it will change the entire aspect of nets. But i think hes gotta at least attempt mid range or set 3s. But i believe hes gonna step up as the Nets best Defender and Anchor
My first time hearing him talk 😂😭🤦🏾♂️
He's gotta have Giannis's mentality towards three point shooting, 3-5 a game, if you airball a few don't let it phase you. He's 6'10 and doesn't have Joel down low anymore, he should be getting to the bucket a ton this year with that team.
JJ, SEND HIM2 THE DREAM 4 STARTER'S ! At the END OF THE DAY JUST HOOOP,💯💯💯
All I have to say is : "SHOOT IT BEN!"
Please.
3:47 this is so real and i felt that.
Ty JJ I feel like he needed that, its suspicion
I don't like that Ben says he wants to win and basically will do what needs to be done ...so when he's on the perimeter and the opposing team literally backs up 20 ft and leaves him open he still doesn't shoot wouldn't that help the team and help you win ??
@@lahdopa Exactly..and I want to like ben Simmons cause he's a really good player but he really needs to take the advice he's given. When I first started playing basketball I was like 28% from 3 for the school year I was suggested to start from the paint and work my way to the 3 and I listened and almost shot 43% from 3 and I'm just an average person so he can definitely do it .
@@lahdopa That actually might be the truth..man I love when kobe and other players voiced the importance of fans showing up to watch you play the game and pay their money to see there favorite players smh.
What you win?
“I’m proudful”. When you’ve been athletic your whole life and never had to learn anything
Nobody fails to appreciate his defense and the other things he does well. Nobody cares that he's not a good shooter. They care that he won't even try to shoot if he's left wide open, and he doesn't even seem willing to attack the basket at times because if he gets fouled, he's at the ft line. He looks scared when he passes up shots in the paint, as if he's afraid of being embarrassed about missing badly on the free throw line. To be fair to him, it does sometimes look like a legit psychological issue at times, which is fine, there's help for that, but then he needs to just own up to it. Giannis isn't a good shooter either, but he at least takes the shot if he's left open so the defenders are kept honest, and he certainly isn't afraid to attack the basket. Ben's a good player, Philly fans just didn't see the investment from him, and even his scouting reports before he was drafted said it didn't seem like basketball was his main priority. In Philly, they just want effort for the most part. All of the most beloved athletes there are renowned hard working, no nonsense types (Dawkins, Utley). Ben is talented enough to be a Giannis/Lebron type player, but he seems content to be a lower tier all-star, which is frustrating to watch. It also didn't help in Philly that his refusal to shoot made things really complicated, since their best player is most optimized playing from the post. Ben was clogging the paint and he didn't always seem interested in spacing the floor in order to better the team, so his "I just want to help the team" remark is bs.
Only way Ben shut up the doubters,he has to go hard when he get back on the court and let his game silence the critics....
We have been waiting years for that to happen
It's not that he doesn't shoot, it's that he's scared to shoot. That's a big difference. When it comes to crunch time in an important game, that's an important difference as we have seen. Also, as other people mentioned, if he made a few shots, they would have to respect him & would open up the floor a bit
Never been mad about his lack of outside shooting just his lack of taking shots from anywhere. In the playoff run in 2021, vs the Wizards he took 3 shots in the 24 minutes he played in the 4th quarter, vs the Hawks he took 3 shots in the 56 minutes he played in the 4 quarter (0 shots in the 4 quarter of the last 5 games), this is all while being by far the most athletic player on the court. Had 7 assists vs the Wizards and 8 assists vs the Hawks in those 4 quarters as well which are pretty good but not good enough imo
What's wild to me about Ben is I know the NBA has shooting coaches and during his years in the league it sounds like he never got with these coaches. Better yet JJ if you love this man so much why not get with him about his jumper and help him develop a mid range
@Risan I agree with you on the Kobe part but I’m not low iq. I just don’t think Ben wants to be good at shooting and that’s okay. He does have a solid inside game so I would try to emphasize that if I was him.
In Philly at least, Ben's brother was his shooting coach and it was said he refused to work with anyone else.
@@killerra I didn’t know his brother was his coach. Interesting. What are your thoughts about him shooting with the wrong hand ?
So NO mention about him shooting with his wrong hand or what he's doing to develop a better outside mid range shot?
Is there a reason JJ is wearing sunglasses at the dining table?
I think he's just cool with not shooting. It kinda seems like in his mind, he already does so many other things well so he gave himself an excuse to not need to shoot
Through all the hate Ben is a damn good player and any team would be lucky to have him. At the end of the day he’s a team first kinda guy no debate. I seen em jump on last neck for embiid.. like cmon. I get he doesn’t shoot but at this point maybe if we woulda stfu about it he would be by now
I like the way he sees it. Everybody criticizing but one thing but nobody ever stops to think. Not everybody is good at something. Everybody has holes in their game. His tends to be shooting
The fact that he stands there with a straight face telling all he cares is winning. He folded like no other. He ain't no competator in him.
This guy is so underrated its nuts what is going on! I really hope he goes out there this year and shut people up.
Well you better keep hoping. Maybe ask Santa for Simmons to make a couple free throws for Christmas’s…
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@@ryanmchenry6694 that didn’t age well lol