Man that is a simple, fit and functional stove system. I really like it. That thought on the windscreen to have one solid side and one side with holes is great. Thanks for sharing Mark, great looking product!
One cool way of lifting the windshield/potstand (Leo shows this on his YT channel) is to use your folding spoon in the bent position as pliers to grab the hot windshield. It works really well.
Mark, another simmer ring idea I saw over at ksgonewild youtube channel in her "windy wild camp" video. Put a coin or two on top of the burner. She used what looks like two one inch coins and it seems to work. This looks like a good substitute for the Simple Theory Gear stoves
Thanks for sharing, another good piece of kit. The burner will just blow out, saving heat damage to the cap, yet another bonus. A resealable bag(pouch) is a worth while addition, guards against leaking and evaporation. I have the 90 - 100 version, ideal, very pleased. Made, from a spoke, a long armed U, a 1 piece 2 armed pot stand, bent down ends. I might get the larger model too. No, I did not need the other one either. Thanks again.
Mark … Always love and enjoy your videos!!! They are entertaining, informative and educational!!! One respectful comment/question: it would be very helpful if you would include the converted price (both Canadian and American) either in the video or the show notes. This was an excellent video reeking with both info and integrity!!! Please keep the videos coming!!! Be safe and God bless!!! Chuck Knight formerly from Buffalo, Texas and currently from Atascocita, Texas, USA. ✝️👨🌾🎅👍🏼🙏
For an alternative to a simmer ring, try putting the cap of the burner underneath the burner which closes the gap between the top of the burner and the bottom of the pot. This chokes out the flame a little bit and slows the burn. I don't have that stove, but raising the burner/lowering the pot works well for me. Great video btw, thanks for making it
How about a smaller solid ring to lay on the felt in the center and let the flame burn around the outside of the simmer ring? It might give better flame distribution on the pot also.
I would love to use this with the Toaks Siphon instead of the X-Boil burner. But i´m afraid the gap from burner to pot would be too small with the Siphon.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I mean - the Toaks Siphon is just 40mm in height and I found the pot gap sweet spot between fuel consumption, speed and soot formation is more around 25mm/1inch. So technically with shorter potclips which would make the pot sit a little bit higher it should still be usable. Of course if the pot sits higher there is less overlap between windshield and pot so maybe not as much wind protection.
That is a proper windshield. Pot bottom and flames inside. I doubt the burner. It is not gasifying and it seemed the incoming air holes are on the same level as the burner.
@@imanuelgoldstein1518Thank you for that info. I'm interested of especially the new design with frying pan option, some coated aluminium one. Yes I can imagine also that the solid opposite wall will help. Simmer ring that Mark told would also be a good option for cooking to add this.
The X-Boil is very popular in the UK ATM, I have seen many of the UK CZcams channels I follow using these. I was just thinking about this and saw Mark had dropped a video about the X-Boil, does the YT AI read our minds!
@@dewuknowHIM I hadn’t even voiced it, well only in my head, coincidence but still takes one by surprise when you have thought about something and a few seconds later up pops something (in this case Marks video) related to what you were thinking about. In the future nearly everyone will be wired to the net, it will be forced on us as you won’t be able to travel or purchase anything without your personal installed ID, penalty points will mean exclusions.
So I went to the site, and it seems it’s 85euros for something we could make with ease? For the simmer ring, did you try something opposite to a traditional ring? Like a disk that would sit in the middle, something like a flame spreader. This would allow plenty of air, and also keep a larger flame area to reduce the hotspot. Last thing is something I find frustrating about stove reviews. The stats you give are very useful to know efficiency, but no one that I’ve seen mentions the burn time capacity. Not just one ounce, but when it’s completely full, how long will it run. I’m not always only boiling 2 cups of water and that it. I want to know how long I can cook with it without worrying about the stove running out.
Good questions Jim. I have since considered different simmer rings designs and will experiment a bit with them. I will also do a full burn to see how much it will hold and how long it will run. Thanks for commenting
I can tell you that it's 12 to 15 minutes. Depending on environmental factors. Burn time that is. Regarding the price. It's not cheap but if you would buy a windshield, quality burner and stand. You talking about a few bucks more. And what you get is a solution that can be stored in your pot, is really hard to knock over and just works.
G'day Mark, that should keep the ultralight mob happy at the very least ; ) Always good to see worthy products from a small enterprise too ....... and Leo's attitude is very refreshing. Like the safety aspect, (including the foil mat), and the tent peg idea also; a lotta folks, (understandably), discard those cheapie pegs, in favor of star picket type jobs ...... well there's a use for 'em, + they facilitate full diameter coverage. I do prefer a noisy fella though, since its an inherent indicator it's going, especially with blue flame in daylight. With the simmer ring; I wonder about .......... A. would one from another brand happen to fit ? and B. do you get any noticeable fuel saving in simmer mode ? And yep, I'm totally with ya mate, ........... time is of little importance out in the sticks ; ) Cheers Duke.
I used a similar simmer ring on the Lixada siphon alcohol stove, and extended the burn time to 35 mins, yesterday! I think it was a 12 min boil time, I wasn't watching closely enough, I was watching Billions LoLz 😅
@@danielsingh9415 G'day Daniel, thanks for the reply mate, very interesting, that is quite a significant difference. Surely you were looking at the "billions" of stars overhead right ......... couldn't possibly be a TV series to demand your attention ................ ; ) Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. A Trangia simmer ring might fit but I was hoping for something ultralight and compact. Mostly, I am looking to lower the heat so as not to burn things like soup in the pot. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yep, no worries mate, what you've come up with is great, especially in the same ultralight "spirit" : ) Just curious more than anything, since I've never owned an alcohol job, and fair to say, some folks just don't do handy. As far as fuel; if one wants to get really pedantic ...... as gram counters often do : ) tailoring meals to a simmer approach, compared to full blown cooking, for a given quatity of fuel, may well be a consideration, ...... perhaps calculus : ).......... I'd imagine. Btw; looking forward to the soup recipe you mentioned, sounds intriguing, tasty and nutritious.
Hey Mark, I’m just wondering if you would actually have to elevate the burner in some way to maintain the 1.25” from the pot when using the system with a larger pot/pan that would sit on top and without the clips. As usual thanks for the awesome video
From my experience, because it is a wick stove, the pot gap has a larger range with the flame pattern staying very much the same. I would not worry about the extra distance in this case but you could place something under the burner to close the gap. Thanks for commenting
Hi, I recommend to put the burner on the lid to get higher for using a frying pan. Please note: the X-Boil is good for using a frying pan on top (ham and eggs, ...) but not to boil liters of water on top of it.
Hello Mark considering the growth in Bushcraft Wild Camping etc do you think that after all those historic years the original manufacturer of Erbwurst was a little short sighted in ceasing production ?
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I've tested this thing to its extreme limits and I'm absolutely amazed about it! 😁 Have you heard about the X-Fire? 🤔i have the 14 UL and the 19 😅 Both of them are holding up extremely well, although I'm not very nice to them. 🤣👍
I am new to alcohol stoves and I too am in NovaScotia, my question is what type of alcohol? Can I just go to Walmart/Canadian tire/Shoppers Drugmart? Can you help me with this? I see American and other countries go over the types and everyone says at your local big store, gas stations etc but I am absolutely lost. Any help would be greatly appreciated.... thank you
Sure. I have a video comparing types of alcohol. Short answer is methyl-hydrate from Canadian Tire or more expensive bio-ethanol from a marine supply store. Thanks for commenting neighbour. Where you at?
Thank you. I ended up finding that video last night after I wrote this but it was from a few years ago so I wasn’t sure if things changed lol I am in Cape Breton Iona area. Cheers and thanks again your videos help so much!
Mine is the 120-135mm. Second from the largest. As far as I know there are no US/Canada distributers yet; however, you should be able to order one direct from Germany. Thanks for commenting
Video is ready but I don't have it scheduled for release yet. Soon. You can get a sneak peak by going to my channel, then go the stove playlist. It is a back door way to see videos. Thanks for commenting
Man that is a simple, fit and functional stove system. I really like it. That thought on the windscreen to have one solid side and one side with holes is great. Thanks for sharing Mark, great looking product!
I really do like the simplicity of this one. Thanks for commenting Steve
One cool way of lifting the windshield/potstand (Leo shows this on his YT channel) is to use your folding spoon in the bent position as pliers to grab the hot windshield. It works really well.
Cool idea. Thanks for commenting
What?!? Now why didn't I think of that? That's a fantastic idea, and it's already in my kit
Your presentation in your videos is fantastic!! You explain everything
I appreciate that! Thanks for commenting
Mark,
another simmer ring idea I saw over at ksgonewild youtube channel in her "windy wild camp" video. Put a coin or two on top of the burner. She used what looks like two one inch coins and it seems to work.
This looks like a good substitute for the Simple Theory Gear stoves
I think a simmer device could be as simple as a coin or other small round piece of metal. I have a review of the X-Fire coming. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for sharing, another good piece of kit.
The burner will just blow out, saving heat damage to the cap, yet another bonus.
A resealable bag(pouch) is a worth while addition, guards against leaking and evaporation.
I have the 90 - 100 version, ideal, very pleased. Made, from a spoke, a long armed U, a 1 piece 2 armed pot stand, bent down ends.
I might get the larger model too.
No, I did not need the other one either.
Thanks again.
Thanks for commenting
That is a great idea. For lower flame maybe go the other way. A silver dollar size disk in the center. Maybe carry a few sizes
right on. Only issue may be putting them in or getting them out. Thanks for commenting
Mark … Always love and enjoy your videos!!! They are entertaining, informative and educational!!! One respectful comment/question: it would be very helpful if you would include the converted price (both Canadian and American) either in the video or the show notes. This was an excellent video reeking with both info and integrity!!! Please keep the videos coming!!! Be safe and God bless!!! Chuck Knight formerly from Buffalo, Texas and currently from Atascocita, Texas, USA. ✝️👨🌾🎅👍🏼🙏
Hi Chuck. Good to hear from you. Thanks for the suggestion
Oh, and next Thursday is American Thanksgiving; Happy Thanksgiving!!! Chuck Knight. 👨🌾🎅
I will be celebrating American Thanksgiving with my daughter in Florida
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Great Demo & Test Shared Here Mark ! Love That Simmer Ring ! Can't Wait For The Next Post ! ATB T God Bless
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting Terry
Sweet simplicity. I think I'll try making this with an Altoids tin 👍 Just need to find the right material for the pot stand...
Be interesting to see what you come up with. Thanks for commenting
For an alternative to a simmer ring, try putting the cap of the burner underneath the burner which closes the gap between the top of the burner and the bottom of the pot. This chokes out the flame a little bit and slows the burn. I don't have that stove, but raising the burner/lowering the pot works well for me. Great video btw, thanks for making it
I can give that a try. Thanks for commenting
Also one thing about the burner is great: it fits on all the trangias, for example triangle.
Thanks for commenting
This is a cool setup. I like the simmer ring that fits inside, the company should make one. ✌️🇺🇸🇨🇦🤙
I agree, I will talk with the owner. Thanks for commenting
How about a smaller solid ring to lay on the felt in the center and let the flame burn around the outside of the simmer ring? It might give better flame distribution on the pot also.
Yes, great idea and I will be testing it. Thanks for commenting
Knorr use to sell erbswurst but discontinued it quite a while ago. I've been anxiously waiting for someone to come up with something.
I missed trying the Knorr version so I am not sure how my homemade stuff compares. Video on how to make coming soon. Thanks for commenting
Thank you for this Video!
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
I would love to use this with the Toaks Siphon instead of the X-Boil burner. But i´m afraid the gap from burner to pot would be too small with the Siphon.
Yes, the X-boil windscreen would not work well with the Siphon. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I mean - the Toaks Siphon is just 40mm in height and I found the pot gap sweet spot between fuel consumption, speed and soot formation is more around 25mm/1inch. So technically with shorter potclips which would make the pot sit a little bit higher it should still be usable. Of course if the pot sits higher there is less overlap between windshield and pot so maybe not as much wind protection.
For simmering I just use the stove's snuffer/cover and partially cover the stove. Crude but it does work and you can adjust the level of simmering.
True enough. Simple and effective. Thanks for commenting
Great review, as always very fair.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
That is a proper windshield. Pot bottom and flames inside.
I doubt the burner. It is not gasifying and it seemed the incoming air holes are on the same level as the burner.
Thanks for commenting
It doesn't care about wind. Had it out in pretty rough weather. You can always turn the holes out of the wind. I'd never went out on me.
@@imanuelgoldstein1518Thank you for that info. I'm interested of especially the new design with frying pan option, some coated aluminium one.
Yes I can imagine also that the solid opposite wall will help.
Simmer ring that Mark told would also be a good option for cooking to add this.
Good video Mark, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
check out the speedster burner very similar
Will do so. Thanks for commenting
If you get another lid for the wick stove and put a big hole in the middle, and use wire as a handle you got a simmer ring. :)
Great suggestion. Thanks for commenting
The X-Boil is very popular in the UK ATM, I have seen many of the UK CZcams channels I follow using these. I was just thinking about this and saw Mark had dropped a video about the X-Boil, does the YT AI read our minds!
Yes AI is too creepy to understand....IT DOES HEAR US TALKING.....😪😔
I think it is the right time for this product as well. Thanks for commenting
@@dewuknowHIM I hadn’t even voiced it, well only in my head, coincidence but still takes one by surprise when you have thought about something and a few seconds later up pops something (in this case Marks video) related to what you were thinking about. In the future nearly everyone will be wired to the net, it will be forced on us as you won’t be able to travel or purchase anything without your personal installed ID, penalty points will mean exclusions.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I like it but it’s not for me, too slow, Clikstand fits my requirements for this role.
So I went to the site, and it seems it’s 85euros for something we could make with ease? For the simmer ring, did you try something opposite to a traditional ring? Like a disk that would sit in the middle, something like a flame spreader. This would allow plenty of air, and also keep a larger flame area to reduce the hotspot.
Last thing is something I find frustrating about stove reviews. The stats you give are very useful to know efficiency, but no one that I’ve seen mentions the burn time capacity. Not just one ounce, but when it’s completely full, how long will it run. I’m not always only boiling 2 cups of water and that it. I want to know how long I can cook with it without worrying about the stove running out.
Good questions Jim. I have since considered different simmer rings designs and will experiment a bit with them. I will also do a full burn to see how much it will hold and how long it will run. Thanks for commenting
I can tell you that it's 12 to 15 minutes. Depending on environmental factors. Burn time that is.
Regarding the price. It's not cheap but if you would buy a windshield, quality burner and stand. You talking about a few bucks more. And what you get is a solution that can be stored in your pot, is really hard to knock over and just works.
Just tested Max Fuel (methyl hydrate) 35grams / 1.23ounces Run Time - 14:30 minutes
@@MarkYoungBushcraftWhat is an ounce in millilitres?
update on the amounts. 35grams=35 milliliters=1.18fl-oz
G'day Mark, that should keep the ultralight mob happy at the very least ; ) Always good to see worthy products from a small enterprise too ....... and Leo's attitude is very refreshing.
Like the safety aspect, (including the foil mat), and the tent peg idea also; a lotta folks, (understandably), discard those cheapie pegs, in favor of star picket type jobs ...... well there's a use for 'em, + they facilitate full diameter coverage.
I do prefer a noisy fella though, since its an inherent indicator it's going, especially with blue flame in daylight.
With the simmer ring; I wonder about ..........
A. would one from another brand happen to fit ? and
B. do you get any noticeable fuel saving in simmer mode ?
And yep, I'm totally with ya mate, ........... time is of little importance out in the sticks ; ) Cheers Duke.
I used a similar simmer ring on the Lixada siphon alcohol stove, and extended the burn time to 35 mins, yesterday! I think it was a 12 min boil time, I wasn't watching closely enough, I was watching Billions LoLz 😅
@@danielsingh9415 G'day Daniel, thanks for the reply mate, very interesting, that is quite a significant difference.
Surely you were looking at the "billions" of stars overhead right ......... couldn't possibly be a TV series to demand your attention ................ ; ) Cheers Duke.
Hi Duke. A Trangia simmer ring might fit but I was hoping for something ultralight and compact. Mostly, I am looking to lower the heat so as not to burn things like soup in the pot. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Yep, no worries mate, what you've come up with is great, especially in the same ultralight "spirit" : )
Just curious more than anything, since I've never owned an alcohol job, and fair to say, some folks just don't do handy.
As far as fuel; if one wants to get really pedantic ...... as gram counters often do : ) tailoring meals to a simmer approach, compared to full blown cooking, for a given quatity of fuel, may well be a consideration, ...... perhaps calculus : ).......... I'd imagine.
Btw; looking forward to the soup recipe you mentioned, sounds intriguing, tasty and nutritious.
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Thanks for commenting
Where in BC? I'm Vancouver👍
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Hey Mark, I’m just wondering if you would actually have to elevate the burner in some way to maintain the 1.25” from the pot when using the system with a larger pot/pan that would sit on top and without the clips. As usual thanks for the awesome video
From my experience, because it is a wick stove, the pot gap has a larger range with the flame pattern staying very much the same. I would not worry about the extra distance in this case but you could place something under the burner to close the gap. Thanks for commenting
Hi, I recommend to put the burner on the lid to get higher for using a frying pan. Please note: the X-Boil is good for using a frying pan on top (ham and eggs, ...) but not to boil liters of water on top of it.
Hello Mark considering the growth in Bushcraft Wild Camping etc do you think that after all those historic years the original manufacturer of Erbwurst was a little short sighted in ceasing production ?
It certainly leaves a gap. Would be great if someone started making it. Hope to have my video made soon. Thanks for commenting
You can literally pull a car with this stove because I've done so before.😂
Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I've tested this thing to its extreme limits and I'm absolutely amazed about it! 😁 Have you heard about the X-Fire? 🤔i have the 14 UL and the 19 😅 Both of them are holding up extremely well, although I'm not very nice to them. 🤣👍
@@LeopoldElwes Yes, I have the X-Fire 19 and have a review coming out soon. Both are great stoves
@@MarkYoungBushcraft I think the 14 Ultra Light sets up a bit easier to be honest. 😅 I also like the fact it can be rolled up for transport 🤔
I am new to alcohol stoves and I too am in NovaScotia, my question is what type of alcohol? Can I just go to Walmart/Canadian tire/Shoppers Drugmart? Can you help me with this? I see American and other countries go over the types and everyone says at your local big store, gas stations etc but I am absolutely lost. Any help would be greatly appreciated.... thank you
Sure. I have a video comparing types of alcohol. Short answer is methyl-hydrate from Canadian Tire or more expensive bio-ethanol from a marine supply store. Thanks for commenting neighbour. Where you at?
Thank you. I ended up finding that video last night after I wrote this but it was from a few years ago so I wasn’t sure if things changed lol
I am in Cape Breton Iona area.
Cheers and thanks again your videos help so much!
What is the fuel that you used in the X-Boil?
I use methyl-hydrate. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Thank you for your no-nonsense approach.
Just drill 9-15 holes around, 1mm drill bit and the second simmering will be ok
Thanks for commenting
Oh Mark, noticed a typo in ur description, the fuel bottle capacities should read, 30ml, 100ml, 200ml not 10ml 😆
Thanks for letting me know
Two questions Mark. First, is the windscreen you have the smallest, largest, in between? And, do you have any info on availability stateside?
Mine is the 120-135mm. Second from the largest. As far as I know there are no US/Canada distributers yet; however, you should be able to order one direct from Germany. Thanks for commenting
Hi Mark! How is the X-Fire review coming? 😄
Video is ready but I don't have it scheduled for release yet. Soon. You can get a sneak peak by going to my channel, then go the stove playlist. It is a back door way to see videos. Thanks for commenting