Can We Shave Beards? - 119 Ministries
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- Some Jews shave their beards, and some do not. Both supposedly follow Torah, but clearly apply a differing understanding. If we believe the whole Word of God to be true, instead of just some of it, then we certainly need to test everything, including whether or not we can shave our beards.
My father-in-law attends an Apostolic Pentecostal church, although he’s not Apostolic. He wanted to help be an usher, but they wouldn’t let him become he had a beard! Any man that has a position in the church had to be clean shaven. But they thought it was ok to have a beard if you didn’t have a position. I asked one of the women who attends there why they believe that. And she said that they want everyone to have a uniform look. They wanted them to look the same if they have a position in the church. I don’t remember reading that anywhere in the Bible
I’ve been in a church like that too, although the lines were drawn on different issues - but the result is the same. Any group that teaches all Christians must have beards or not have beards, dress a certain way, listen/not listen to certain music, eat/not eat, etc., are denying the New Testament doctrine of Christian liberty, where we make choices before God in our individual conscience (Romans 14:4-6); and this abrogation of the believer’s personal convictions is how cults start
@@rowanmarc I currently attend a Pentecostal church and I understand where you’re coming from but it’s common knowledge that every church has different rules and convictions so if you are someone who wishes to attend that church, Romans 13:1 says to submit yourself to that church of which God has established, if you have different convictions there’s no issue, however if you wish to be a part of a ministry at that church you will have to follow the formalities that they uphold. Questioning the church will just waste time and also is a rebellious attitude, it’s best to find a church with ofc fundamental laws and beliefs as a Christian should have but also fits your convictions.
However I’d be lying if there weren’t things that the church rules that I find a bit iffy, such as going to the movie theater. Since our bodies are not ours rather the body of Christ which means we should be weary of what we put in to our bodies, however wouldn’t that mean that movies as a whole should not be seen, I understand it but it’s like saying going to a burger place is bad but eating burgers at home is fine.😂 but God Bless you💙
@@rowanmarcas long as you obey what our heavenly father instructs us to eat and not eat...right?
@@SG-jv5zi there are no instructions for the Christian as to what to eat and not eat; all foods are clean as long as they are sanctified by a prayer of thanks (1 Timothy 4:4-5)
@@rowanmarc that's not what 1 Timothy 4 is saying - did you even read the context?
The Bible CERTAINLY says what is food and what is NOT food. It's in Leviticus.
Thank you Yeshua for you guys. I have tats and I have been struggling coz of cutting my hair I can keep my beard my Hair how ever
As a young man I had always wondered what the cornering of the hair and beard was. I knew we were meant to grow bears but if we can't cut any of it our hair will grow really long. Cutting your beard isn't bad. Do I think we should have a beard? Yes. Do I also know that mine will get split ends if I don't trim it? I will be trimming it soon but I haven't in years
As a Biblically Curious person, I found this very interesting. I know some religions forbid having facial hair, and I always thought this was contrary to this scripture. Most Bible translations refer to the marring of edge of the beard. So my thought has always been that we should have a beard, but we are allowed to trim it, as long as we do not change its natural shape. BTW, which Bible are you quoting from?
So this is gonna sound *Awkward* , but i tend to pull out my nosehair when they get too long (as theyd obscure my smelling), would that be sinful, then?
I cant exactly fit a razor in my nostrils you know..
Shalom Dead Channeldile,
As the teaching says, "we should not cut ourselves nor rip or ruin our hair out of our beard and our head with violence, as it is a practice of sun-god worship; or anything else derived or associated with pagan false god worship, for that matter. They would mourn to their gods in this way for the loss of their loved ones"
There is no sin in grooming. As long as you are not doing it to mourn the dead as described above, then you are fine.
We hope this helps.
Blessings to you and yours.
Thank you for this explanation.
Thank you! Context matters so much
Thank you for all.
* I believe that you omitted from this teaching - God's command to Aaron & his descendants who would be performing the duties of his High Priest or a Priest before him - not to shave the edges of their beards (in Lev. 21:5). For Aaron or any of his descendants who became Priests at the Tabernacle or at the Temple - to shave their beards would have gone against the instructions of God. So - if God required his Priests to grow beards & they were the closest human beings to draw near to God - how much more would the common man also want to do the same - since this is what God wanted & required. Consider this > that many of the examples set forth by God for those who were closest to him - were also for the purpose of being followed by all the common people as well. If a common man could live his life just as a High Priest lived his life - would the common man not be pleasing to God? His efforts to copy or follow God's instructions shows his willingness to please God - even though he not required to do so as a common man. And to exert the effort shows a persons devotion & faith.
I think you have experience in the word of God.
I read both verses and from my study, if the Israelites had mimicked their pagan neighbors (with pagan symbolism), they would have denied their God, the God of the living and the dead. Deuteronomy 14:1-2 elaborates on this.
I belive theres certains stuff that only apply to the priest or High priest. Please correct me if missunderstood something
All believers should have beards
Obviously men, but I get what your saying though. Even if we shouldn’t mar our beards, it still shows that we should have beards to begin with and of course we should mar it.
I disagree. That's a speculative decleration. For you do not consider men who are created that cannot grow any facial hair. Hair or not, there is no torah law that tells us not to shave our beard, let alone tell us that we shouldn't keep it clean and trimmed. There is no such law 📜
@@noahdevane3761
The context of that is found in other places in the Bible. It is specifically talking about taking a knife, or your hands and ripping out your beard in mourning for the dead, while you worship the dead. Basically the command is addressing pagan worship practices. It is not addressing a man that has a beard that wants to edge it up, trim it or keep it cleaner.
Yah is all about cleanliness.
@@teachingtetelestai I made that comment about 5 months ago, and since then, I realized that your right on that topic actually, I honestly can’t disagree with you. I learned a lot about it and looked into the context given. Shalom and blessings from YAH
@@noahdevane3761 that’s progress brother. may the Ruach HaQodesh continue to work in you
What bible are you using?
119 Ministries, thank you for your videos.
I'm new to following Torah and find your insights on Scripture helpful to discern what YHWH is asking of us from the tradition of man and the Pharasee addition to His law.
Today is my first observance of the Sabbath, you are helping me greatly in my walk.
Shalom
Trust in Jesus Christ
Keep the commadments of ELOHIM and THE faith is YAHUSHA
This isn’t in the Bible and you are adding this., by saying the commoner has to follow what the priest has to
You are adding your own reasoning to the Bible
Thanks so much
Why didn’t David say just shave the other half of your beard and come into the camp? He did not say that. Therefore, I believe it is expected that men allow the hair on there face grow wether full or sparse simply because it distinguishes us from women. When people ask - is it a commandment that men have beards, I say, not specifically, but I have a beard simply because I am a man, and the scriptures make it absolute clear, men are not to look like women and women are not to look like men. AND since a beard is the PRIMARY distinguishing exposed feature of a man that sets them apart from women, I believe it is implied that we should not shave our faces! I think scripturally the case is clear, we should not generally shave our face. Just like it is a shame for a woman to shave her head but when a foreign woman was taken in captivity and an Israelite man wants to take her for a wife, she is to shave her hair. The same holds true for a Nazarite vow. It seems that shaving the head for the captive woman and shaving head and face for men in a Nazerite vow, symbolizes removal of what was in the past and newness from thence forward! That is in my opinion a better explanation of all texts involved. Lastly, although some men say they can not grow a beard, all men grow hair on there face. Therefore we all should allow that masculine distinguishing feature to shine, regardless of how full or how sparse, ESPECIALLY in todays day and age.
Thank you 🙏🏾 very much all praise to YAHUAH now and forever.
Hi 119Ministries! Could you please make an investigation about the personal name YHWH? I've seen videos that in ancient Hebrew, as it is read per syllable, it is Yah-hoo-ah. Hence, many these days call Him Yahuah. Also, take note, there was no W/V sound before.
Shalom Kairu Yaakov Monsanto,
We have an entire series devoted to the Name called "Hashem". You can find part 1 here: www.119ministries.com/teachings/video-teachings/detail/hashem-part-1-whats-in-a-name/
Blessings and Shalom
I want to joke, "shouldn't logic dictate the second H , should also have a phonic... yah-hoo-ah-hoo...." [Insert Ambulance siren joke here]
I have been thinking this. Some people say saying Jesus is bad and then say the Name of her Father in a "Modern Translation" of it saying Yahweh...which just as wrong as saying Jesus IMO.
His name is Yehovah according to the most ancient scrolls. The Rabbis did omit the vowels so the Hebrews would not speak his name because punishable by death from their captors and overlords. His son is Yeshua ( meaning there is salvation in Yehovah ). There is no “Jesus”in Hebrew. It’s a poor translation of the Greek (Iésous) I used to ride with clubs and it’s highly important to know a mans name. How much more so to know our creators name and the son he sent to correct the Hebrews defaulting on their part of that covenant of the Ten Commandments, and in turn saving us gentiles. He only asked us to follow the 10. The fourth being to keep the Shabbat ( sabbath )set apart from the first 6 days. Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. He can’t bless most people because of their disobedience to this one instruction. Most of our blessings are only from his goodness and mercy. Imagine how much more he would do if we were obedient children? And he’s not “Lord” that’s a term used for Bael. “Do not place any other god before me” so people call on “lord”? You have not because you ask not. So act accordingly ask correctly and see what happens. He wants to bless us so much the chosen people would be jealous. I haven’t seen that yet, have you?
@@giovanni545 go away
So I have tattoos. I have a lot of them. Would jesus forgive me for that? If I truly mean to never get another one
Shalom,
Did you watch the video? We think the video should answer your question.
Blessings to you and yours.
@@119Ministries I watched it but for some reason I don't understand the answer
Yes brother He will forgive you, but now that you know is wrong is better to not get another one. God bless you!
..this teaching while trying to stay in context, does not cover "all" the intent of men's facial hair.
There is considerably more to grasp and which each male should consider before tossing out the idea of wearing a beard.
More study is required on 119's behalf.
Super
Finally someone is preaching the word of God
Genuine question, it sounds like God really disapproves of the decadence, of coffins. So, our bodies should be returned to the clay, unfettered, right?
It's a metaphor fam
@@emptyunicorn384 I don't believe it is metaphorical. Genesis is full of examples of mourning and mummification.
The Zoroastrian, a precursor to Judaism, believed the soil should not be spoilt with our toxins. The dead would be wrapped and delivered atop the temple, for God's winged beasts to digest. In the direct sunlight, the bones would turn to dust within days
Peace brah
@@elberno4243 what? So how are we suppose to be put when we are dead?
@@yoboijerry5519 placed as food! In a hole, on a temple rooftop, gifted to the sea
@@elberno4243 is there a biblical way of a burial? If there is plz send the verses I’m curious
Yes, you can shave your beard. It only requires a sharp tool, such as scissors, a knife, clippers, or even a sharp rock. The real question is, why SHOULD you?
So they could look like a female and put make up and lipstick on .
Karaite: a member of a Jewish sect founded in the 8th century and located chiefly in the Crimea and nearby areas, and in Israel, which rejects rabbinical interpretation in favor of a literal interpretation of the scriptures.
h have tattoos but can i have forgiveness
Repent bro and ask for forgiveness to the almighty God.
Ask in Yeshua/Jesus name
If possible see if it can be remove with like lazer tattos removel
From what I know the only unforgivable sin blasphemeing the Holy spirit but do your own research plz I don't want to be held accountable...
The war captive bride was supposed to shave her hear and cut her nails though. A sign of mourning
Well if you don't need
over the ear long hair I guess you don't need to have a beard?
Do we have any proof that God had a beard ?
God is spirit
No
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As long as it is not in horner for the dead. According to the context of Leviticus 19.
It’s so funny how some argue that humans are made in the image of the “perfect” God.. yet.. there’s all this insane controversy over the hair that God created 😂
Honestly, complicated rules are a way to control.
in the case of king david where half the spies beards were shaved.... they were captured... it’s not sin if they were forced ie held down and shaved. But obviously they were ashamed because it was a big deal culturally and biblically by law.
It seems like the consistent theme is not worship, but rather despairing and denouncement of one’s religion. This would be apostasy in Israel, but required for those coming from outside Israel into the fold (which is why the woman is required to shave in Deuteronomy 21, to put off the old in mourning). It’s a good video still
it says do not round off the sides of your beard so no you cant
CONTEXT
Jesus fulfilled the law. We don’t have to keep this, although I choose to do so
@@__Man_ why not plz explain
Orthodox: adherence to correct or accepted creeds, especially in religion. Does that mean the new Jews are just more liberal?
Can we shave beards?
What does the bible which is the word of Our Holy Creator YHWH say?
Hmmmmm
YHWH wants us to be like Him. What is His facial description?
Was it "He sported a nicely shaven goatee tattooed arms and a shaven head"
Father forgive me
I want to shave and cut for a job.
I endorse the notion of choosing a haircut that suits your personal style, as long as it doesn't entail mimicking unbelievers, idolizing false deities, or paying homage to the deceased. It's a clear principle not to shave your beard; even David, for instance, didn't command his men to shave their beards; instead, he permitted them to let their beards flourish. This is why it advises against rounding off the corners of your head, but it specifically instructs not to damage the beard.
The main focus on obeying God though is to be set apart from the world. This is to show us that God cares about every little part of our life for he loves us!
I don’t really agree with it I do think it has to do with not being like pagans in some degree but his example of David and the spies with half their beards cut was a weak argument to me. They were captured and forced to shave they did not commit a sin they were ashamed because of the cultural and religious beliefs held about beards which is why I believe David showed compassion and told them to grow it in Jericho away from the city. I also think that it’s not contradictory to say not to shave your head and then shave it for a nazarite vow the reason I don’t believe it is a contradiction is because one is consecration to God and one is not much like the Golden calf in exodus God detests it and graven images yet I believe it was king Solomon who made 12 Golden calf’s as an offering to God and he was pleased by it. Showing their is a clear difference in what is sin in Gods eyes or like lying God hates a lying tongue however when the Egyptian midwives helped the Hebrew woman give birth they lied to pharaoh and God blessed them for it or the spies and the prostitute she lied about the spies and God blessed her. So I kinda think since it was a well known cultural practice even in Yeshuas day to have long beards and hair that it most likely was seen as a law not pertaining to the violent cutting of hair during mourning.
Thank you for the clarity. Once I sought out the original text, I knew something was wrong with the translation.
I'm one of those men that can't grow a beard 😂😂
And if you you trim your beard, by the interpretation of some people, you're sinning... so we are supposed to have unwieldy beards which be dangerous in some professions? No way. His Law is NOT a burden! God is reasonable and His Word separates us from the world!
Trust in Jesus Christ
I will say golden, the way you just built gods word around man made things is the problem that the world has always had, including the pharesees. To say: A job could hurt your beard so GOD wouldn't make that a rule is blasphemy. Ask yourself, is the command the problem or the job? If any man made thing contradicts the law, should we go along? Gods command is never the problem, it's human confusion and imagination (creating things that contradict the law). I'm just trying to clear your eyes to see brother, no offense Given, we all need help, including myself to see gods desire for holiness. Godbless
@@greglovelace246 are you arguing the Law commands us to all grow our beards?
@GoldenRuffian no, im giving you understanding of the blasphemy from the previous statement you made.
@@greglovelace246 I made a logical appeal. God is a logical being. His commandments are reasonable.
Yah has given freedom - not a burden. That's not my words, that's the Bible.
I'm not appealing to a "job" or "man made things" 🤦 I'm saying Yah wouldn't require such a ridiculous standard because He has taken ALL into account AND would not give us an unnecessarily burdensome commandment, like the Talmud does and what the Pharisees would insist.
Nor am I saying "a job could hurt your beard so Yah wouldn't make that a rule" - I'm saying Yah wouldn't make a rule that would HURT OTHERS. You know you're not supposed to eat hair, right? You know getting hair inside an open wound is bad, right? Did ***man*** put those repercussions in place?
You're going around throwing around "blasphemy" 🤦 Yet, you don't even understand the underlying point of my comment.
God wouldn't make people not trim their beards and have them grow obnoxiously long beards they trip over, get stuck in stuff, shed into their work and overall get on the way.
Calm down.
The ritual Law was given to ISRAEL: so if you’re not Jewish, how are you honouring the Bible by taking on something that was not given to you? Stating that you “believe the whole Bible Bible is true,” is creating a false dichotomy where u implicitly claim those who don’t agree with your interpretation do not believe the Bible to be all Divinely inspired. The fact is, by taking on commandments not given to you and claiming everything applies to everyone all the way through, you actually DISHONOUR the Law, whose purpose is to prove that we are sinners (Romans 7), and to keep the Jewish people distinct from the nations (Exodus 19:5-6, Deuteronomy 4:5-7). Not only this, but you can’t just pick and choose which commandments you like - Galatians 5:3 says that if you wish to be circumcised (under the Law), you are a debtor to do the whole Law. This means you should be making sin offerings as well, going up to Jerusalem 3 times a year, and making war against Amalek - and I know for a fact you’re not doing any of those three things, so if we were still under the Law, you would be accursed by God as a Law breaker.
Can we shave of our heads and shave our beadrs in tattoo a skull-faced on our faces
Awful lot of generalization of "the pagans" with no context or educational background on who these people being referred to actually were
Please see Revelation 14:12 & 18:23,Please dont go threw the PCR test is alarming what people have shown.
Haven't finished watching it but I think I can tell their position before they started talking XD
How should I treat pig skin? Camel skin? I understand that such animals are not food, and that their carcass refers to their dead bodies. However, the prophets wore camel hair. Were the camels still alive? How do I approach this topic?
The Bible is clear. Shaving is a SIN, David's men were embarrassed because they had the visual evidence of a sin on their face. And yes, even when a person is shaved by force a sin was committed. It is just like committing adultery is a sin. When a married woman is raped. The woman feels ashamed. Because she ended up being defiled even though it was against her will. Likewise when King David's men were shaved by force, they likewise were ashamed because they were defiled against their will. It is not in the same way as rape, but in both cases they are being defiled into a breaking of God's LAWs. Now I will say a woman is not responsible for a rape if it is truly rape, and likewise a man is not responsible if someone shaves him against his will. But a woman is responsible if she willingly commits adultery. Likewise a man who shaves his face is responsible before God.
Christ our example did not shave. Because he did not commit SIN.
Your teaching is false.
The only acceptable time for a man to shave is if he was cured of leprosy, or been in contact with a dead body where they might have had a contagious disease. This is because if a person had leprosy for example their would be traces of the leprosy in the hair while it was growing. The only other exception was when a vow was completed. Which would only happen on rare occasion.
You should be ashamed of promoting breaking God's
LAWS.
You are no better than a person promoting Sunday as a replacement for God's Sabbath. Today every spiritual leader is promoting breaking the LAWS of God including you.
You wear mix fabrics? SIN!!!!!!!
@@papajohnsfan5394 that is correct. The not wearing mixed clothing requires finding clothing which the fabric is not mixed which can be difficult in our day.
Unlike not shaving. Not shaving just requires self control, to stop your hands from using a razor. In short shaving is simply wilfull and intentionally committed sin
@@servantofyahuwah2486 That is impossible. Every clothes is mix fabrics today
@@papajohnsfan5394 if that is the case, that .means a falling away has occurred. That is a clue we are at the end of Babylon the great.
It also makes a person wonder what clothing outlet store the children of Israel bought their clothes from.
@@servantofyahuwah2486 I know this sounds dumb but is a plane black nike shirt mixed fabric
I strongly disagree
God gave man beard to keep not to cut off or get clean shave.
If God doesn't have anything to do with our beard then why he gave man beard on the first place, he could have kept us as women without beard.
Then why would you trim your nails since that also given by God
Naw-kaf,
Kinda cool how it sort of means Knock Off and sounds like naw-kaf
I would point out though that there is no context in which we are to get Tattoos. They are ALWAYS associated with paganism.
Symbolism is tied to the mystery schools and to mystery Babylon itself. These people tattoo a dove on themselves for peace or a cross supposedly for worship of Yah, but they do not know (or perhaps know and do not follow anyways)
"Do not worship me as the pagans worship their gods, I am the Lord YaHuWaH."
I am glad you put the full verse here in Jer 10:2-5
What about the Son having his name that nobody knows written on his leg when he returns? For real just curious. As best as I could tell it looks like it’s probably a tattoo from the Greek version I could find.
I have a message that I’m sharing where I can, some may not want to hear this, but I ask that we stay polite and seek truth together. 😊
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Read the Word for yourself, not only relying on others for guidance. Pray for guidance.Yahushua/Yeshua - His Hebrew name who is usually called (Jesus) taught to keep the whole Word. Including the Law/Torah. Matthew 5:17 “Do not presume that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill. 18 For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not [g]the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished! 19 Therefore, whoever nullifies one of the least of these commandments, and teaches [h]others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever [i]keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Read 1 John. John tells us that sin is lawlessness, and that we must keep the commandments. Trust in the atonement of Yahushua/Yeshua who is usually called Jesus, and keep God (YHWH)'s whole Word/commandments. Revelation 12:17 So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. Revelation 14:12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. Go to parableofthevineyard youtube channel for information about the bible and good bible studies. I'm in no way paid or sent by him for advertising. I just have learned a lot from his content. He's just a man who is trying to learn as well. :) Yeshua died so we may be resurrected to eternal life.....
could not disagree more. Joseph had to get clean shaven because that was an Egyptian custom. That is exactly the custom God is warning us again. It is not in a favorable light so he had to be clean shaven.
The beard have lot av microbi is the most place to fabrication av microbs the beard and mustache
Nope
We are not baggers we believe in civilization so clean up your self
As Christian's, it's ok to shave. The bible says so
@Joe Freeman where does it say it's a sin? Because leviticus was for the old prophets and people in the old testament because or the law
@Joe Freeman do u have a beard?
Christians bibles now has been change by pope but ours are not king james is the real bible
@@aljohnjuarez4452 idk what you saying
You are twisting scripture because these commandments are separete not the same THESE ARE COMMANDMENTS this is paganism teaching
I disagree with both axioms. The Bible was written over the centuries for contemporary hearers, not for the 21st Century; and it is quite plain that much of the Bible is NOT literlly true. St John's Revelation is NOT literally true; it is a description of the undescribable. The story of Noah's Ark is sourced from the writings of Gilgamesh in Mesopotamia; did they describe the same Flood? The only description of Cristianity I accept is the one Jesus gave, "I was sick or in prison and you visited me." Not just talk from millennia ago. But these preachers deliberately ignore anything Jesus said; they prefer to quote Genesis.
No‼️
his name is Not YAHWEH ... YAHWE IS A PAGAN GOD
What name do u go with..?
Father of Creation, God, Jesus, Holy Spirit.
@@travisdean4509 how can Jesus Christ be God when Jesus Christ himself prays to God our Father.
How can Jesus Christ be God if Jesus Christ doesn't know when the Hour be except God our Father.
Stop worshipping a trinity and come back to Monotheism! Only our Father is God. Christ, nor the highest ranking Angel nor what ever is God. No, YHVH alone is our God and there is no God but He.
@@adrakazeggway1846 Christ was God in the flesh and the reason he was praying to God was to show other people how to live.
@@adrakazeggway1846 *I and the Father are one* thats what the bible says.... so yes in a certain. way Jesus is the Father he said so himself
The world's going to hell in a handbasket and you're worried whether we can grow beards or not ......what is your problem!!
Shalom Dudley,
This teaching was published in 2016 and was in response to a common question we received.
We hope this clarifies this for you.
Blessings and Shalom
I don't think beards are God's main concern in our lives. And besides aren't these Old Testament issues? And where are you guys getting all the stuff?
The world is going to hell in a handbasket because almost everyone is breaking almost every law God ever made. Most are committing dozens of sins per day . Shaving is only one daily sin being committed by most.
@@dudleygoodwin4902 I think you should watch more of their videos on the Law to understand.
@@GoldenRuffian thank you sir but I don't think I'm interested
To grow a beard isn’t the commandment, it’s don’t cut the beard. God say not to do thing, as humans we always have to do things. So it’s not you must grow a beard it is don’t cut the hair growing out of your face, there’s a difference.
Stop saying HaShem
it would have been easier to just tell the men to shave the other half of their face and come in.. but David went the more difficult route, which is to tell them to wait until their beards grew again, this indicates the importance of the beard above and beyond the much easier alternative... in context with everything else, the beard is the DEFINING MALE CHARACTERISTIC that Yahweh wants us to carry and denying this logic is highly problematic. The Nazarite promise is within an exceptional context, not a normative one.