Great demonstration of the hrd and lion tamer. After not using my hrd for years at home due to the volume issue, I finally ordered one of these. You get a great sound from the amp, even on the drive channel. Thanks for sharing.
It’s still only giving you pre-amp tube distortion, not power tube distortion. That’s not what your amp sounds like when the power tubes are overdriven. The effects loop comes before the power tubes in the circuit so you’re turning the volume down before it hits them. The only way to get power tube distribution at “bedroom” volume is to use an actual, proper attenuator.
I've found it helps the sound (even though only preamp) as long as you only want 'edge of break up' - it also enables you to match the home and gig sounds more closely. Any ideas and experience on attenuators for the Hot Rod Deluxe? Also need to replace my lost Dr Watson if anyone knows where I can get one.
Ha, I get that face when you turn them up. These things will blow your face off. I live in the country, so not worried about neighbors, just my head exploding. Thanks man.
This really is a game changer if you have a Hot Rod Deluxe or a Blues Deluxe. Mine works great! The real question is why doesn't Fender just fix this problem with these amps???
That works well. Sounds good ! I've built those for a few people in the last year or two. But what I really love to do with a hot rod deluxe (or deville, blues deluxe, etc.) is gut the pcb out of the amp altogether and handwire a 59 bassman/68 marshall plexi into it. It's a great conversion candidate.
Man, I bet that clean channel boosted is where it's at! I've ordered one of these for my HRD, the drive channel is a bit meh, but TS9 in front of the broken clean. Got a good feeling about that
Thanks for posting, I had a 70s twin with a little blue "ice cube" that plugged in to the reverb send/return using the reverb knib as the volume and that was uncreadible! This lion tamer is a great idea!
Jason Poore I think it’s great. I can run the amp a bit hotter but keep the volume down. It definitely sounds better. You get a bit of that break up. Obviously running the amp loud sounds the best but it isn’t always an option. I’m happy with it.
Heb de lian tamer sedert enkele maanden in bezit. Mijn hot rod deluxe is van 1999. De lian tamer is een ware must daar hij alle kwaliteiten van deze versterker naar boven kan brengen. Vooral op het distortion kanaal is die gepast te gebruiken. Volume distortion kan volledig worden opengedraaid tot 12😳. De lian tamer regelt het uitgansvolume tot slaapkamerniveau. Te koop voor €20. Ongelooflijk!
Are you using the channel 2 volume as your master? And does this help tame the massive DB jump when you stomp switch 2 on the footswitch? I am curious because I have been trying to figure out how to use the awesome sound of the lead channel without the massive difference in volume when you go from switch 1 to switch 2.
I have a purple HRD, these amps are beasts, way too much amp for me but the price was amazing. Being in ch2, clean, with OD/fuzz pedal, u can crank the vol/master a little for home use and get great tone. But I need to get one of these.
Hi there! Yep, I've had this Hot Rod since the 90s and recently purchased a new limited edition. It's the amp that will work for any type of gig I ever have (breweries, wedding receptions, jazz combos, etc). I've tried a bunch of amps over the years, and the HRD just gets things done! Thanks for your comment!
I have make the same thing with a 500k pot, 2 x 1/4 jack. Put it all this in a littke plastic box, 2 solder to make. 5 minutes labour, 5$ and 2 patch cable. This make exactly the same thing, for 1/8 of the price.
Thanks Jason, this helps, am thinking on the hotrod deluxe and the Deville but when I tried the Deville it was way loud at just over 2 very quickly on the master volume control but I liked the tone of the 2 12” Celestion speakers. I think this could be the answer otherwise my options are a relatively small speaker amp sacrificing a good clean tone with headroom
Hi Mick! Kind of like throwing the transmission in reverse while you're doing 60... I want to know what will happen, but I don't want to try it, lol! In this case, probably nothing. Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Michael! Yep, there's definitely some noise. Part of that is that this amp is old and has seen a lot of trauma. I have a new Hot Rod limited edition that I purchased recently, and the noise is significantly less pronounced when maxed out. I think it was Jeff Beck who said "that's just the sound of the amp breathing."
Hi Jason, nice sound and playing :) do you have any idea where the lion tamer puts all the power from the output stages? wondering because attenuators get really hot doing the same thing dont they?
I ordered one of those lion tamers and it works but when I plug it up I get a slight buzzing sound coming out of my amp It's a blues deville goes away as soon as I unplug it I don't know if it's normal.
Great demonstration of the hrd and lion tamer. After not using my hrd for years at home due to the volume issue, I finally ordered one of these. You get a great sound from the amp, even on the drive channel. Thanks for sharing.
It’s still only giving you pre-amp tube distortion, not power tube distortion. That’s not what your amp sounds like when the power tubes are overdriven. The effects loop comes before the power tubes in the circuit so you’re turning the volume down before it hits them. The only way to get power tube distribution at “bedroom” volume is to use an actual, proper attenuator.
Good to know!
I've found it helps the sound (even though only preamp) as long as you only want 'edge of break up' - it also enables you to match the home and gig sounds more closely. Any ideas and experience on attenuators for the Hot Rod Deluxe? Also need to replace my lost Dr Watson if anyone knows where I can get one.
Thanks for the info!
I think depending on the amp it may be changing the position of the master volume like pre or post phase right?
Put it in the effects loop and add a tube screamer to the front and 🙌 rockin & rolling and whatnot ..
Ha, I get that face when you turn them up. These things will blow your face off. I live in the country, so not worried about neighbors, just my head exploding. Thanks man.
This really is a game changer if you have a Hot Rod Deluxe or a Blues Deluxe. Mine works great!
The real question is why doesn't Fender just fix this problem with these amps???
Thanks for making this. I was wondering about these things
That works well. Sounds good ! I've built those for a few people in the last year or two.
But what I really love to do with a hot rod deluxe (or deville, blues deluxe, etc.) is gut the pcb out of the amp altogether and handwire a 59 bassman/68 marshall plexi into it. It's a great conversion candidate.
Man, I bet that clean channel boosted is where it's at!
I've ordered one of these for my HRD, the drive channel is a bit meh, but TS9 in front of the broken clean. Got a good feeling about that
Would like a demo of the Lion Tamer with a Fender Blues Deluxe Reissue if you get time.
Excellent!
Thanks for posting, I had a 70s twin with a little blue "ice cube" that plugged in to the reverb send/return using the reverb knib as the volume and that was uncreadible! This lion tamer is a great idea!
Hi Jason! So great! Super Demo! Superb playing and sound! Kind regards, Matt
😂 2:44 he got really excited. Lol I did to. It sounded good.
Thanks man, gonna get me one of these for my HRD so I don’t melt my family and neighbours! Nice playing too btw! Rock on🤘🏽
Awesome Jason, I want one now!
Getchu one, Steve!
Just got one for my Peavey Classic 30. It’s great! Nice review...
Thanks Mark, glad you liked the video! How do you like yours?
Jason Poore I think it’s great. I can run the amp a bit hotter but keep the volume down. It definitely sounds better. You get a bit of that break up. Obviously running the amp loud sounds the best but it isn’t always an option. I’m happy with it.
Have one in the mail for my new (used) Hot Rod Deville 4x10. Can't wait to try it out.
Heb de lian tamer sedert enkele maanden in bezit. Mijn hot rod deluxe is van 1999. De lian tamer is een ware must daar hij alle kwaliteiten van deze versterker naar boven kan brengen. Vooral op het distortion kanaal is die gepast te gebruiken. Volume distortion kan volledig worden opengedraaid tot 12😳. De lian tamer regelt het uitgansvolume tot slaapkamerniveau. Te koop voor €20. Ongelooflijk!
Works great in the Bassbreaker 30R as well - just need a couple of patch cables and couplers as the jacks are further apart than the HRD
Are you using the channel 2 volume as your master? And does this help tame the massive DB jump when you stomp switch 2 on the footswitch? I am curious because I have been trying to figure out how to use the awesome sound of the lead channel without the massive difference in volume when you go from switch 1 to switch 2.
Really Awesome...i need that
I have a purple HRD, these amps are beasts, way too much amp for me but the price was amazing. Being in ch2, clean, with OD/fuzz pedal, u can crank the vol/master a little for home use and get great tone. But I need to get one of these.
Hi there! Yep, I've had this Hot Rod since the 90s and recently purchased a new limited edition. It's the amp that will work for any type of gig I ever have (breweries, wedding receptions, jazz combos, etc). I've tried a bunch of amps over the years, and the HRD just gets things done! Thanks for your comment!
It's an attenuator in the effects loop
Great info ✊ New subscriber 🇺🇸 I’m waiting on my lion tamer for my blues deluxe 👍🏻 Coming any day now.
Nice playing man!
I have make the same thing with a 500k pot, 2 x 1/4 jack. Put it all this in a littke plastic box, 2 solder to make.
5 minutes labour, 5$ and 2 patch cable.
This make exactly the same thing, for 1/8 of the price.
skip the jacks and just split a patch cable in 2 and wire that in, ha. Made one today with extra salvaged parts for nothing! $0
Yeah I made one myself too. Tames my deluxe for practice:)
Enough white noise to make it crazy
Thanks Jason, this helps, am thinking on the hotrod deluxe and the Deville but when I tried the Deville it was way loud at just over 2 very quickly on the master volume control but I liked the tone of the 2 12” Celestion speakers. I think this could be the answer otherwise my options are a relatively small speaker amp sacrificing a good clean tone with headroom
I just got mine I love it!!!
Great tutorial 👌 👍 👏
Hi does the little green sticker mean left side ?
Hi Jason, Nice amp toy and informative video. If I forget one day and plug it in the wrong way round will it blow the amp? Mick
Hi Mick! Kind of like throwing the transmission in reverse while you're doing 60... I want to know what will happen, but I don't want to try it, lol! In this case, probably nothing. Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
pretty sure its just a passive pot so won't do anything
Where can you purchase this? Searching online, it is hard to find.
Sounds like it added quite a hiss when you plugged it in and turn it up
Hi Michael! Yep, there's definitely some noise. Part of that is that this amp is old and has seen a lot of trauma. I have a new Hot Rod limited edition that I purchased recently, and the noise is significantly less pronounced when maxed out. I think it was Jeff Beck who said "that's just the sound of the amp breathing."
You're going to naturally get a lot of hiss when add more volume. Just kind of the give and take of overdrive.
Hi Jason, nice sound and playing :)
do you have any idea where the lion tamer puts all the power from the output stages? wondering because attenuators get really hot doing the same thing dont they?
It's in the FX loop so it's prior to the output stage
This is awesome. Would this work with a Marshall dsl 40c?
Amp sounds great. Any mods to the amp? Upgraded speaker or tubes?
Was wondering how you can tell which end goes effect send / power receive?
Will it work on amps other than Fender???
Where do you buy one?
I ordered one of those lion tamers and it works but when I plug it up I get a slight buzzing sound coming out of my amp It's a blues deville goes away as soon as I unplug it I don't know if it's normal.
Does it get clean when you turn the guitar down
What happens if you use the footswitch?
Where can I get this thing?!!
Where to buy
U must be happy ,, see it in ur face
I lost my Dr Watson, at a gig I think. Can't find one to buy now to replace it - anyone know where I can get one for my Hot Rod Deluxe?
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Hello Jason! Can it make hot rod deluxe bedroom friendly?
You can but it can still be very loud, but not insanely loud.