5 WAYS to connect a TV to a HIFI system (for beginners)

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  • @kwilj
    @kwilj Pƙed rokem +3

    3.1 channel is my sweet spot for tv/movies, the center channel for dialogue makes a big difference

  • @stevie8932
    @stevie8932 Pƙed rokem +5

    When you paire your Bluetooth Headphones directly to the Apple TV Box instead of the TV, you have no Delay and perfect Lip Sync. Tested it with a few Headphones and it worked every time. Just go to Settings/ Remotes and Devices/ Bluetooth
pair your Headphones there and you can enjoy Lip Sync Video Content. Thank‘s John for your funny and enthusiastic Videos, a little illumination even on dark(o) days

  • @HannesBretschneider
    @HannesBretschneider Pƙed rokem +2

    John, I fully agree with you not wanting to wire up your room for nine loudspeakers behind and above you, but an important benefit of multi-channel audio for movies and TV is the center channel because it carries over 90% of the dialogue and having just that third speaker massively improves dialogue intelligibility over relying on the stereo speakers' phantom image. I used stereo speakers with my TV for years, but always had trouble understanding the dialogue, especially at low volumes. For that reason I like to use a 3.1 soundbar with my TV (bad for music, but much better for movies/TV) and have a completely separate stereo system that's good for music.

  • @EclecticMusicMan
    @EclecticMusicMan Pƙed rokem +2

    The most professional, non biased, factual and genuinely informative audiophile content, even the ad break’s are marked. Wish other channels were this good.

  • @yegscaper6444
    @yegscaper6444 Pƙed rokem +3

    This is perfect, thank you! My partner has a high-end stereo and a TV and they're not connected. We have an external Roku Streambar and I'm always like 'why don't we connect the TV to the stereo' 😂

  • @Nearest_Neighbor
    @Nearest_Neighbor Pƙed rokem +2

    Since I'm building a new system, my first decent stereo setup, I'll go with the Node as my 'all in one' solution.
    HDMI ARC, subwoofer out (with the hpf option), streamer (with a physical connection to the Datenautobahn!), dac, digital out, two way bluetooth, just about everything I need.
    I'm happy you're one of the great people in this community recommending this to us.
    Thank you for your work, Darko team. 🙏

  • @jerrybandy3827
    @jerrybandy3827 Pƙed rokem +4

    I use a 4 year old TV connected with Toslink to a 20 year ago receiver (Kenwood) outputting to 40 year old wired speakers (JBL). Works for me.

  • @thomaswachter7782
    @thomaswachter7782 Pƙed rokem +3

    Such a great idea... help out the beginner. Thank you.

  • @stressballer
    @stressballer Pƙed rokem +1

    I switched from a stereo to a 3.0 "surround" setup connected to my TV (HDMI/ARC) and having a dedicated center channel was a welcome upgrade - can recommend!

  • @xjimmy225x
    @xjimmy225x Pƙed rokem +2

    I dove deep into this idea a few years ago and spent months researching the best way to connect my tv to my stereo setup. The best solution I found was the NAD M32 preamp which has the capability of adding a HDMI module with 4 HDMI ports

  • @TheLWebb100
    @TheLWebb100 Pƙed rokem +13

    Stereo is the best of both worlds for me and I consider myself a music and movie guy.

  • @marcus1970
    @marcus1970 Pƙed rokem +2

    This is great content..
    I chose to turn my back on multi channel when things (and I) got to 7.1.... Instead choosing to chase higher fidelity with stereo underpinned with sub.
    .... I've never been happier with my sound.... The current crop of streaming/DAC/Pre make a convenient digital hub.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan Pƙed rokem +4

    6:50 Camera conspiracies in the house hahah

  • @kristophergurley585
    @kristophergurley585 Pƙed rokem +2

    There are times, just every now and then, when I do wanna just scrap all that I have invested in multichannel and go back to simple stereo for tv and movie viewing. Especially in the family room. No more catching up to the latest standards, no more sneaking cables over mantles or behind couches, less equipment clutter, and just less fuss overall. However, those moments fade pretty quickly and once set up, living with multi channel in the main room is fine.
    I do like movies almost as much as music and since I’m not a reviewer and thus not changing out equipment all the time, the burden of living with a multi channel is all on the front end. Once set up, operation and use is easy and the rewards the extra speakers bring is worth it to me.

  • @jamestravill9640
    @jamestravill9640 Pƙed rokem +2

    Completely agree.. two ears
 two speakers â˜ș

  • @Radmixtape77
    @Radmixtape77 Pƙed rokem +3

    My Samsung TV, sending audio via Toslink, to a $20 prozor DAC sounds surprisingly good.
    My Schiit Bifrost 2 had too much delay with lip sync, so for this application the $20 DAC wins the day. You don’t need to spend a lot to improve your TV sound!
    (The rest of that chain is a Rotel A11 tribute, with Wharfedale Denton 85th and SVS 3000 micro sub)

  • @b13nx2k
    @b13nx2k Pƙed rokem +5

    What about using a home theater receiver for music? They have HDMI ARC, mains high pass, room correction etc... Would you consider reviewing one of those? If not why? Thanks and keep up the great videos 👍👍

    • @esperago
      @esperago Pƙed rokem

      My experience is that there are not many hi-fi quality home theatre receivers. But that begs the question "Why are there no high quality, reasonably priced home theatre receivers?" A person can buy a Chinese $200 portable hi-fi music player, hook it to a great sounding $99 Chinese hi-fi amp and then follow that up to good headphones or decent speakers. For just a few hundred dollars. But God forbid a video signal enters the situation. Then a person has to break the bank and buy a $2000+ home theatre receiver to get both hi-fi audio and 4k output. How can the electronic components for video alone cost so much? If one is just dealing with audio, spending hundreds of dollars will do. Add video to the mix and cheap Chi-fi solutions disappear and one has to spend thousands and thousands. I don't get it. Am I missing something? What am I missing?

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 Pƙed rokem

      @@esperago I assume because all the Dolby, Atmos, DTS stuff costs money for the licence.

  • @jamesstanley7263
    @jamesstanley7263 Pƙed rokem +2

    I’ve got a NAD M10 connected to my LG OLED via HDMI Arc. Pretty flakey most of the time. Was just as easy to connect via toslink and use a learning smart remote to control everything

  • @kylemacarthur3177
    @kylemacarthur3177 Pƙed rokem +2

    Mr. Darko,
    My apologies if I somehow missed this in the video: On the back of my HDTV is the orange Digital Coax output. I simply select the output on my tv to Digital Coax Out, and run the coax cable to my DAC -- in this case a Schiit Modi II. Works like a charm -- plus it can play higher quality audio streams.

  • @markielinhart
    @markielinhart Pƙed rokem +1

    Great video‌My audio-visual system is my old stereo hifi set up (including the sub) using an AppleTV to stream using AirPlay and my iPad as a wifi server. Or, of course free to air TV. Simple, fab stereo sound. Use an hdmi lead from AppleTV to TV set and phono jacks from amp to external TV input for audio âœŒïžđŸŒ»
    Btw a correction Mr D. Netflix dumped the AirPlay applet which is why I dumped Netflix


  • @felixlaboy1453
    @felixlaboy1453 Pƙed rokem +1

    Finally the video I’ve been waiting for. Thank you buddy. You and your team are the best.

  • @Northernlanes
    @Northernlanes Pƙed rokem +2

    I listen to Amazon Music using my Firestick, I like to see the album art and lyrics etc on screen, I input the Firesticks hdmi into a hdmi->optical extractor, the extractor has hdmi output to the TV, the optical toslink can go to the amplifier (in my set up it goes via an external dac then analogue to the amp), this method gets me 24bit/192khz into the amp. Great quality.

  • @smaganas
    @smaganas Pƙed rokem +2

    Perhaps your most useful video ever. Thank you

  • @donaldmackillop6736
    @donaldmackillop6736 Pƙed rokem

    Superb tutorial, so clear and concise even I understood it. Faced with a change to my quarter of a century failing.ailing JVC stereo that's currently connected to my LG TV via Tos-converted to phono hooked to vintage. You swiftly cleared up upcoming options, whatever stereo I plump for, many thanks indeed.

  • @beetooex
    @beetooex Pƙed rokem +3

    I've always got to be different lol. I use a PC as the source for all audio and video. Audio goes from usb dongle dac to old school stereo amp and the TV is just a dumb screen. Wireless keyboard with trackpad controls everything from the sofa. Windows isn't a slick interface for the living room but it's a price worth paying for the ability to access any content on any service ever uploaded to the internet.

  • @Larstig81
    @Larstig81 Pƙed rokem +1

    I always use a toslink connection. At first, many years ago, my M-audio Superdac 2496 was the device to select the sound from the tv or cd-player.
    This dac I think is 20 years old and still running great. Since last year I use the dac of the cxa81. Also a great dac.

  • @yveslaingui457
    @yveslaingui457 Pƙed rokem +1

    Thanks for this content as always, love your shows

  • @stuartphoenix6117
    @stuartphoenix6117 Pƙed rokem +1

    Those bang and olufsen look amazing.

  • @JoshMizrahi
    @JoshMizrahi Pƙed rokem +1

    Thank you John. I love your exploring the TV and Hifi connection. I have 2 setups both with Apple TV running Plex from a NAS along with Apple Music. In the living room I am running that to the HDMI connection on the Klipsch the Fives. The main problem I had with that was the Samsung TV defaulting to the TV speakers but that has been fixed. I have not had the problems with the Klipsch EQ and Bass that you hard but the Fives were very fidely at the start especially the firmware update. I bought these specifically to be able to control volume with the Apple TV remote and that works great. To be able to scroll through Plex and play whatever I like with voice control and a big now playing screen is tremendous! In the bedroom, the set up is from pieces that I had upgraded in the living room. So an 19 inch computer monitor running Apple TV to an HDMI splitter, that gives me an optical out to a pair of Edifier powered speakers. So no volume control but I do have a Soundavo dac that my brother was not using that controls volume. After watching your video I tried using the WiiM mini AirPlay2 to the speakers but this WiiM never worked right and now the optical out is broken so I am getting a very basic Belkin soundwave AirPlay2 to see if that will be more stable. So thank you for that suggestion. All this highlights that there are not many inexpensive speakers or DACs with HDMI inputs. Keep up the great work!❀

  • @Undead.Musicphile
    @Undead.Musicphile Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    Many thanks for this video. I don't care for surround sound either😊. I was trying to plan a new setup. This video has made it so much easier.
    Many thanks from canadian 🇹🇩 novice audiophile.

  • @Big-J-8579
    @Big-J-8579 Pƙed rokem +2

    Thanks! Good information. Multi-Channel does not work well for urban apartment dwellers in my opinion. It is more a single home owner format. I am blessed to have a theater room and a separate 2-channel room. So I enjoy both worlds. Though I spend most of my alone time in the 2-channel room. When our daughter comes over, we enjoy movies in the theater room.

  • @romainroger734
    @romainroger734 Pƙed rokem

    Hi from FRANCE and many thanks and congrats to your channel, always interesting ! 👍

  • @richardbuckingham4329
    @richardbuckingham4329 Pƙed rokem

    Great video, I found it very informative.
    I love the idea of connecting my Apple TV with some AirPlay speakers, so I think I’ll start looking into that.

  • @smayaan2479
    @smayaan2479 Pƙed rokem

    Really great content! So much to learn about music setups

  • @derekfarione8729
    @derekfarione8729 Pƙed rokem

    This video was a great find as I was just going to do this. thank you!

  • @krom447
    @krom447 Pƙed rokem +4

    HDMI Arc audio extractor as other way to connect HDMI Arc if your system do not have HDMI Arc input by default.

    • @JohnWilmot1179
      @JohnWilmot1179 Pƙed rokem

      I've bought one of these because my smart tv has only HDMI ARC output for the audio but my my amplifier hasn't got an HDMI input port. The quality of the audio is non very good though...

  • @basilandrigsby
    @basilandrigsby Pƙed rokem

    Brilliant video. Super clear explanation. Thank you. I’m running Apple TV into Lyngdorf 1120. Sounds great. I just picked up an hdmi splitter box with eARC built in as TV didn’t have one. Coming in at 24bit 48khz and I don’t need the TV on at all. Controlled by my phone. It’s my version of Apple connect. Hooray! 🎉

  • @milanberic9212
    @milanberic9212 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    Well done thank you!

  • @chrismuc4023
    @chrismuc4023 Pƙed rokem

    This video fits my needs perfectly.👍

  • @secondyip
    @secondyip Pƙed rokem

    It is a very clear introduction as usual. I prefer HDMI ARC because it is one of the most popular ones in the market. 😊

  • @stevo9308
    @stevo9308 Pƙed rokem +1

    I recently bought the Sonos Amp solely for the HDMI Arc to connect a stereo pair of bookshelves to my LG CX. I am also more focused on music, mostly streaming, but having found I can also connect Sonos speakers/subs wirelessly via WiFi, I've now got a 4.1 setup with little hassle. Great sounding music and enhanced experience for movies - best of both in my eyes.

  • @bonzostarr
    @bonzostarr Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +1

    Thank you!

  • @bmwheeler1atverizon
    @bmwheeler1atverizon Pƙed rokem +1

    did not know about WISA...thank you again.

  • @pascalblond7539
    @pascalblond7539 Pƙed rokem

    Excellent 👌 logical and fair 👍
    Merci đŸ™đŸ» đŸ“ș đŸŽ¶

  • @scottscottsdale7868
    @scottscottsdale7868 Pƙed rokem +1

    Great video. I totally agree with you on all of it. I use optical out. But I will say that with Apple TV the remote does control both content selection and volume control. At least in my system.

  • @AndrewYates179
    @AndrewYates179 Pƙed rokem

    Great and useful video.

  • @Max-nf4jc
    @Max-nf4jc Pƙed rokem +3

    Great vid as always! I prefer watching tv through my hi-fi stereo set up too, for the same reasons as you stated. Even so, I think there a lot of people, including myself, that would like to have the capability of running a centre channel speaker for movie watching, from a ‘stereo’ amp rather than an AVR with multi-channel capability, which I think can compromise the quality and output of sound
.
    I think audio companies are missing a trick. What are your thoughts
.?
    Thanks

  • @timbaker4879
    @timbaker4879 Pƙed rokem

    I have the same frame tv hooked up to a Sonos Beam with surrounds for tv and via toslink to my “gappy” Audiolab 6000a play and it all works marvelouslly! Thanks

  • @mat_v
    @mat_v Pƙed rokem +1

    Hi John, tried most of the options you presented and if you want an upgrade in sound quality for your tv I’d recommend adding an Nidia shield pro, it has a usb audio output at 192k that sounded a whole lot better to my ears than toslink and airplay. Even better with a decent DDC converter in the signal path.
    Thanks for the great content and happy listening!

  • @Ade5
    @Ade5 Pƙed rokem +6

    My limit is at a 5.1 system.. And that seems to be the standard in the industry since Atmos(and all the others systems I dont about know.. like you) movies pretty much always have a 5.1 compatibility track along with all the Atmos-stuff.. So I dont need to bother with all the atmos and what not eithet

  • @charlessterba5665
    @charlessterba5665 Pƙed rokem +1

    i'm primarily a vinyl and tube amp guy but wanted to use my klipsch forte iv's with my tv. figured it'd be kind of a waste to have them sitting there idly while using the tv's poor internal speakers or a sound bar.
    i picked up a bluesound node, connected it to my integrated amp, and used the eARC connection between the node and my tv. i also used the node for occasional music streaming via airplay from my macbook to at least take advantage of the better sample rate over bluetooth.
    this mostly worked fine, but occasionally the audio would frustratingly drop while using eARC and i'd have to toggle the audio output on my tv to fix it. not sure if it was my hisense tv or the node causing the problem, but i eventually got annoyed with it and decided it also wasn't worth burning my tubes watching tv, so i recently got a pioneer vsx-lx305 home theater receiver and a beresford tc-7210 switch.
    now i have my speakers connected to the output of the switch, and my home theater receiver and 2 channel tube amp connected to both inputs, and i can switch between them as needed. not the most elegant solution, but the pioneer sounds surprisingly good and gives me access to some useful features even just for 2 channel use.

  • @WildReefer
    @WildReefer Pƙed rokem +1

    I'm with you on this one.
    My take is that you can have a great stereo system for music, and it'll usually do an almost-as-great job with movies as well (especially the dialogue and bassy explosions) - but in most cases, in my experience at least, when playing music over even a "pretty good" home cinema setup, the music usually sounds terrible and really over-processed, and it seems to take a lot of tweaking just to get a less terrible sound out of it.
    I'm done chasing the evolving audio standards of the video world, to the point that I just bought a TCL TV with a built-in "Harmon/Kardon" sound bar and called it a day since currently my TV and stereo are on opposite sides of my lounge.
    Maybe I'll invest in a good value soundbar for the bedroom TV because its built in speakers are the usual average junk you find on most TV's, but that's about as far as I'm willing to invest in it right now.

  • @JBOsurf
    @JBOsurf Pƙed rokem

    I run a bluesound node as my preamp and dac, a peachtree grand integrated x1 as a pure power amp, and a set of Larsen 4.3 speakers up against the wall (which is how they are designed to work). The node is connected to my sony tv via HDMI eARC. Sound is outstanding. The bass performance is such that my REL subwoofer is currently in a box in my shed.

  • @mtmals9786
    @mtmals9786 Pƙed rokem

    Clear as a bell..thanks

  • @ronnytm
    @ronnytm Pƙed rokem +1

    I use toslink out, since my amp doesn't have HDMI in. Got a Google TV dongle and programmed the included remote to adjust the volume of my hifi amp. It has replaced both my tv and hifi remotes which is a nice elegant solution for me.

  • @khuti007
    @khuti007 Pƙed rokem

    Thx for the info

  • @johndn9238
    @johndn9238 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    Extremely helpful, thank you. (P.S. also with you on the multi-channel attitude!)

  • @Cypher_NZ
    @Cypher_NZ Pƙed rokem +2

    You really need to check out the nvidia sheild. It is the one for all streaming device. USB Dacs work flawlessley with the shield.

  • @artoutlawphoto
    @artoutlawphoto Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    I'm using a logitech Bluetooth, this was the only option for me as I have a late 80's technics amp. It doesn't have delay it works perfectly with the image, and also has volume control. It transformed my audio setup. The technics su-v 500 still holds up good

  • @ianbusby2845
    @ianbusby2845 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    Thanks John,didn’t realise I could connect my Apple TV to my Cambridge Audio CXA81 wirelessly till you got me thinking.I love stereo for music but use a separately wired soundbar for tv/movies as the dialogue is impossible to follow otherwise.Thx

  • @KirtFitzpatrick
    @KirtFitzpatrick Pƙed rokem

    Thanks! That was really helpful. I've been looking at the new ïŁżTV4k and scratching my head on how connect it to my hifi without losing audio quality. I have a lossless audio collection ripped from CD and the modest goal of simply trying to maintain lossless CD quality audio through the entire chain. That is so much harder than it sounds.
    But I think the answer might be Airplay over wired ethernet. For some reason I forgot that Airplay doesn't have to go over the air, any ethernet will do. I'll try it out. Hopefully wired doesn't have to buffer as much.

  • @mrkitewine7700
    @mrkitewine7700 Pƙed rokem

    Thanks John,
    I use toslink into a my dac (Schiit modi 3+) for when I want to put my tv through the hifi.
    I’m looking to upgrade the dac (Ares ii or the new Bifrost 2/64), but I’ll be keeping hold of the modi as I believe there are some DACs (Denafrips Ares ii being a notable one) that create a very noticeable lag whilst processing the audio. Obviously this is not an issue with pure audio, but when you want that to be synced with a visual image then it is tricky, hence I’m keeping the Modi for that purpose.
    Thanks for the great channel, I particularly like the way you focus on the music, as after all that’s what it’s all about.
    Cheers

  • @bikeman7982
    @bikeman7982 Pƙed rokem

    Hey John, I like your pragmatic and geeky approach to HiFi! Very different from many other reviewers who do nothing but throw around nebulous adjectives about sound quality. I have a LG TV connected to my HiFi DAC via toslink. Works great except for a minor annoyance. I sometimes connect the TV to my AirPods Pro via bluetooth for late night watching. When I disconnect AirPods the TV reverts back to the internal speakers instead of toslink. I wish it would just revert to the previous selection.

  • @RocketLauncherwithInfiniteAmmo

    My tv is a bit older and connects to my Dac with digital coax, just thought that was worth mentioning also. Good video and a more and more relevant topic these days.

  • @timdunn4302
    @timdunn4302 Pƙed rokem +1

    Old school here, RCA out from the TV into my Rotel RA03

  • @mistafishman
    @mistafishman Pƙed rokem

    This video covers so many great points. I will say, as much as I do love surround sound, a well set up stereo system with movies/tv is very enjoyable. Not too mention has a lower cost of entry (I’m a college student 😅).
    Curious to see how much surround music is released in the future as I know Tidal and Apple Music both have Atmos tracks now; still very very small % of library though. Kraftwerk’s Boing Boom Tschak (Live) in Atmos is a blast.
    Didn’t know about Bluetooth out of TVs until now, gotta look into that 😃

  • @lorenzocriscuolo7869
    @lorenzocriscuolo7869 Pƙed rokem

    I did not know about the Apple TV routing audio to an external DAC.It would definitely improve the sound on my system,since the DAC on the Linn streamer is much better,obviously. Thanks!

  • @KolfMAKER
    @KolfMAKER Pƙed rokem

    What a great video and explanation! For me especially the last 2 chapters about AppleTV/AirPlay and WISA.
    I have been looking for quite some time to get a TV's audio to wireless speakers, but without the delay. Very interesting to learn that with the combination Apple TV and AirPlay the audio/video synchronization is also handled. Perfect!
    I hope you can answer two questions for me:
    (1) If I would buy a TV that has AirPlay built-in, would that also be able to handle the audio/video synchronization? (Like you mentioned that the AppleTV box does)
    (2) Does the audio/video synchronization also work with AirPlay gen. 1, or just with AirPlay2?
    Hope to hear from you!

  • @lemanouchecbien1
    @lemanouchecbien1 Pƙed rokem

    No tv for me but i always enjoy your videos.

  • @bwm999
    @bwm999 Pƙed rokem +4

    Or
. I have a topping Dac connected to the USB socket on the TV (Sony With Google TV OS). Automatically mutes the TV speakers and does full bit rate (via Amazon Music TV app for example). Try it.

    • @CamiloSoto
      @CamiloSoto Pƙed rokem

      Hello there! I have thought to do that very same route. I have an amp and a Phillips TV (Android TV) + Chromecast with Google TV, and I saw a Topping Dac tempted to buy it, first thinking to use the optical cable or looking to connect it directly by USB to the TV, but I doubted that work, I haven't found a very clear answer on the internet.
      How did you manage to make it work?, and it recognizes more than 48kh for example?.

  • @ponty1001
    @ponty1001 Pƙed rokem

    I had connected two JBL MKII studio monitors with my TV using a Hi res DAC ( FIIO BT30 Pro) in between using optical cable from tv to dac and RCAto XLR cable from DAC to Speaker.
    I must say I am getting sound which is captivating. Mesmerizing.
    Just two studio minitors. No sub. Still sound is like movies hall

  • @rolandlickert2904
    @rolandlickert2904 Pƙed rokem

    Agree to many cables threfore I keep it simple and use optical cable

  • @RobertBorley
    @RobertBorley Pƙed rokem +1

    Ok John. Good video. Now do one for connecting a TV in the other direction. IE for rich visuals of now playing content, album art, visuals to accompany music such as slideshows and visualisers. I have options for all of the above, but it took some figuring out and a video like this would have been very useful

    Requirements:
    Smart TV
    Apple TV
    Roon
    Roon remote AppleTV app
    Radio Paradise
    Plex
    M1 Mac Mini connected via HDMI
    The holy grail for me is a decent visualiser with no lag, like the one on PlexAmp but for a TV.

  • @RodneyAllanPoe
    @RodneyAllanPoe Pƙed rokem

    Good video. 2.0 is the way. I had a plasma TV for 11 years and just bought an QD-OLED TV. For both I used optical out into my CD player/DAC and muted TV sound. Sensational. But I'm not sure how the Neilsen ratings box is going to pickup TV analogue audio without analogue outs... the Neilsen tech is visiting next week. 🙂

  • @robjones3420
    @robjones3420 Pƙed rokem

    When I bought my Hifi system, I also wanted this connected to my TV system.
    The best advice I got was to forget centre channel speaker and get the best Hifi speakers I could afford. As my main aim was analogue system. However it’s brilliant with TV and the whole family get the benefit.
    It poses issues thou, as when we visit friends and watch a film/TV the family often do not like it.
    For anyone interested system is
    Moon 600i integrated amp
    Sonus Fabre olympica iii speakers
    Old Yamaha Av amp
    Sonus Fabre book shelf rears
    Rel sub

  • @joostvanderwaaij
    @joostvanderwaaij Pƙed rokem

    I use a Linn Akurate DSM with HDMI 2.0 as the heart of my system.
    TV is connected via HDMI ARC, because of the apps on the TV.
    All other HDMI and non HDMI sources are connected to the DSM.
    The DSM has so many connection options, it is almost a nobrainer as the heart of my system.

  • @greatpix
    @greatpix Pƙed rokem

    I just went through this after buying the new Hisense U8H tv and using an older Yamaha RX-V375 to play through stereo speakers. I also use a PC as my media server/video streamer/etc and the Yamaha wasn't capable of passing the best signal the PC put out over HDMI. So HDMI was out, at least if I wanted the best image. Luckily I had several lengths of TOSLINK cable and used one of those, set the output to PCM and everything has worked fine.

    • @geraldmcmullon2465
      @geraldmcmullon2465 Pƙed rokem

      I use an HDMI de-bedder. There are models for stereo only and for 8 channel. The control for volume level is from the computer. I set up active analogue speakers to be at the same volume level front and rear and just use the Windows sound slider. The same box works with a DVD or Bluray player passing the picture to a screen (I use a 65" monitor). I have used Toslink to a stereo pair of speakers but there was no method for the speakers to scale up to surround in a 5.5 system (Devialet Phantom Gold)..My old TV and my computer have Toslink out (PCM stereo or compress 5.1) and the computer and DVD player have Coaxial. My floor standing speakers have analogue and Coaxial inputs but for surround I am stuck with analogue.

  • @landpro28
    @landpro28 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    Amazing! Thanks! I am also realising that AirPlay shouldn’t be thought as only wireless - we can certainly wire Apple TV and speakers via ethernet. I don’t believe that all people realise that. However I am also not sure if it can give any improvement to the sound quality/ bit rate - my guess would be no, unless AirPlay has a downsampling algorithm for when connection isn’t good enough. I hope it doesn’t.
    Thanks a lot for your brilliant content ❀

  • @bmwheeler1atverizon
    @bmwheeler1atverizon Pƙed rokem +2

    Thank you again for specifically letting us know that "most" TVs resample to 48khz. I've been trying forever to look this up on my specs...I thought that was the case but was not sure. I use the Toslink output into my DAC into my amplifier....thanks again.

  • @filipepaninho6558
    @filipepaninho6558 Pƙed rokem +2

    Another advantage nowadays is that we can use the streamer on modern TVs :)

  • @MarkBrooker-ji2tm
    @MarkBrooker-ji2tm Pƙed rokem

    I use a TP Link bluetooth reciever on my solid state Sansui amp and big B n W boxes connected to my Samsung 4K tv works a treat and use sammy remote for tv stations Plex etc cheap option at $40

  • @itsjusterthought7941
    @itsjusterthought7941 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Hi DA ...interesting video. I'm with you on the stereo music priority thing. I actually use my game console to play the music from a USB HD, so music and game sound go to the TV via HDMI. My current TV has a stereo headphone out, so that goes to phono sockets on my old audio system. TV, game and music in high quality stereo.
    When I upgrade to a smart TV with eARC HDMI audio out, I will need an eARC audio extractor to grab analogue audio from the eARC HDMI signal via its internal DAC. Phono outputs on the converter will then send analogue audio to my audio amp. So I will get hifi stereo sound from TV, games and the all important music. My only concern is whether eARC extraction creates any audio delay. No problem for the music, but movies and games need perfect synchronisation. The Orei HDA 932 eARC audio extractor claims no audio lag, so hopefully they use a high quality DAC. They do make a higher quality version the Orei HDA 939 eARC audio extractor, but that has features I do not need.
    I'm avoiding the surround sound via sound bars because I feel they lack the quality of stereo speakers when listening to music and a full on multi speaker surround stereo receiver would be prohibitively expensive to achieve the sound quality I currently have in stereo.

  • @marcfoss7687
    @marcfoss7687 Pƙed rokem

    Thank you, very useful video. I have a small smart TV which has WiFi and Bluetooth built in. However, it does not have aptX HD or LL. If I buy a separate Bluetooth transmitter with aptX HD/LL, can I still use it with the TVs inbuilt Bluetooth? Thank you.

  • @DiRazor
    @DiRazor Pƙed rokem

    I use a Chinese HDMI ARC audio extractor. With a linear power supply and spdif 'purifier' it plays quite well 😅

  • @angrygirl7083
    @angrygirl7083 Pƙed rokem

    Thanks for all your great content. Regarding the television-sets: I ALWAYS have issues with the S/PDIF output. Wonder why manufactures can't built in a proper connection like the one on my Marantz CD6006

  • @chriskulkens7654
    @chriskulkens7654 Pƙed rokem +2

    I Use toslink from my 10 year old Samsung plasma into my 20 year old sony 5.1 receiver and ENJOY 5.1 multi Channel soundtrack movies DTS. Or dolby digital are both supported via toslink

  • @jimfarrell4635
    @jimfarrell4635 Pƙed rokem +3

    I guess I'm going to be that guy who says you are missing out on multichannel music, though I understand entirely your reasons. Starting with SACD and moving on to DVD-Audio, then Blu-ray Audio and now Dolby Atmos on Blu-ray I have loved multichannel mixes of some of my favourite albums over the years. And Dolby Atmos on Blu-ray is astonishing. Still niche but I'm hoping this time it will take off.
    I do find Atmos on streaming disappointing so far, however.

    • @dennismanning6684
      @dennismanning6684 Pƙed rokem

      I don't have atmos height speakers installed but the mix down to 7.1 on the only album I know of, "Point" Yello, SACD, Atmos is really fun to listen to with the sound/sound stage moving around the room. Any others you recommend?

  • @pearceclayton8498
    @pearceclayton8498 Pƙed rokem

    I think that you have missed one of the more common wired scenarios which is the connection from a satellite or cable box. This would be very common for many subscriber TV customers. This will typically use either HDMI or Digital COAX. For your purposes, the outputs are generally PCM stereo. These outputs generally have lipsync issues which are not always managed by the 'box'. As I build soundbars that just process PCM stereo I have found that it is a lot easier to use the Toslink output because lipsync is nearly always controllable by the TV and the processing can be take care of by a cheap TOSLINK friendly DAC. There are plenty of these on the market which do the correct sampling at 48hz.

  • @Peter-Alexander
    @Peter-Alexander Pƙed rokem

    Might be worth mentioning that if both your transmitter and receiver support bluetooth LDAC, then you will be able to listen to almost lossless cd quality. It's an option that when available you can enable (on both sides)

  • @nwestmoreland1
    @nwestmoreland1 Pƙed rokem +1

    John, you mentioned an audio delay when using an R2R DAC like the Denafrips Ares II.
    Does your Samsung Frame TV or the LG OLED you reviewed offer options to correct the lip sync delay?

  • @shemsureshot
    @shemsureshot Pƙed rokem

    There are some AVR’s like Yamaha that allow you to use their wireless surround speakers so that you don’t have to have wires going around your room. That way you could have a neat and tidy 5.1 system.

  • @JogieGlenMait16
    @JogieGlenMait16 Pƙed rokem +2

    Eyyyy, Chris Gore on the TV, yo.

  • @705johnnyboy
    @705johnnyboy Pƙed rokem

    i bought a tcl 65 ,just used the headphones output with monster interconnect and adapter straight into aux on my stereo amp sounds great for movies youtube etc i hate the processed sound of dts dolby etc ...

  • @RickPollux
    @RickPollux Pƙed rokem

    Right now I have my active speakers (Presonus Eris 4.5) connected via the headphone out (aux/rca). I’m guessing the dac of the tv isn’t the best. I don’t want a soundbar. I love the sound of the speakers but I think they could sound better with a better dac. I see a lot of simple, very cheap, straight forward dac (or ‘audio extractors’) for sale, but I’m guessing they aren’t any better. Is it worth buying an expensive dac, like the Nad Amp1? Wich to me looks like the dac with the least extra’s (that I’m paying for but dont use)
    P.S. I do all my streaming via Playstation or Spotify Connect on my tv. It seems very difficult to just upgrade the sound quality for gaming, movies and music to stereo speakers. Do you have any suggestions? The Nad Amp2 seems like my only option, but is it worth it while my speakers are connected via rca?

  • @Panotaker
    @Panotaker Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +2

    I want to do it the other way. How do you connect your streamer so the albums art work show up on your TV, but you still get the hi-res audio to come out of your speakers. Right now I use an old 2011 Apple mini with all my music on it running Jriver media center and tidal, which has an HDMI output, so it displays my album art on the TV. But I’m thinking of getting rid of the Apple Mini, and get an Eversolo with a SSD, but how do I get my Album art on the TV with that?

    • @EastSide_Motel
      @EastSide_Motel Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      If you find an answer let me know, this bloke always has the album art work in his YT videos and looks cool.

  • @kenniejamieson6427
    @kenniejamieson6427 Pƙed rokem +2

    I'm the same not interested in home cinema just music out of stereo speakers
    Don't even have my tv connected to my hifi
    In saying that I do love how you have your tv connected to show what's playing
    Brilliant

  • @tjerkeikmans4561
    @tjerkeikmans4561 Pƙed rokem

    Hi John! I love your videos very much. Lately I’ve seen more budget focused reviews and I really learn a lot. My question is: are you going to review any exotic brands like Mola Mola or dCS in the future? I know that it may not be the best time to ask, but I love your excitement after listening to that segment. Hope to hear from you, keep on with the good stuff. Greetings Tjerk

  • @supernehc
    @supernehc Pƙed rokem

    eARC for me~ easy to use for multichannel amp~ everything controlled over TV

  • @realkevintaylor
    @realkevintaylor Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    I’m legally blind and I’m into audio fully but I agree with you. Nothing sounds better than a good stereo mix I don’t like these 5.1 or 7.1 set ups. They’re way too complex. I’ll have people over at the house and put on a movie or music With stereo and sometimes they’re blown away by how great it sounds.