The Wizard of Oz- Behind The Scenes of Casting Dorothy

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  • čas přidán 22. 02. 2019
  • I originally uploaded this video in September 2013.
    I edited together two different biopics about 2 different stars, “Child Star: The Shirley Temple Story” with Ashley Rose Orr portraying Shirley, and “Life with JudyGarland: Me and My Shadows” with Tammy Blanchard portraying Judy Garland, to show the behind the scenes drama about the casting of Dorothy Gale in the 1939 movie, “The Wizard of Oz” along with Film clips, newsreel footage, and audio of a live radio performance.

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  • @catpeach326
    @catpeach326 Před 5 lety +434

    Soooo glad Judy got the part of Dorothy, she was born to play that role. If Shirley was cast "Somewhere over the Rainbow" would've been a little tap number!

    • @truly3743
      @truly3743 Před 4 lety +6

      😂😂🤣

    • @miketaylor4702
      @miketaylor4702 Před 4 lety +29

      If shirly had played Dorothy the film wouldn't be as big as it is today it was always made for Dorothy I mean Judy

    • @gloriaj.pinsker9577
      @gloriaj.pinsker9577 Před 4 lety +13

      Can't even imagine anyone else in that role!

    • @davidjames666
      @davidjames666 Před 4 lety +8

      It would have been another “good ship lollipop” number

    • @Joey.Alvarado
      @Joey.Alvarado Před 4 lety +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @deanrobinson711
    @deanrobinson711 Před 4 lety +152

    I could not imagine anyone else playing Dorothy. One of my favourite movies, I always loved to watch it at Christmas when I was a kid. The movie is still magical, 80 years on.

    • @ginauccelatore3002
      @ginauccelatore3002 Před 4 lety +10

      as a teenager (yes, I grew up without it), I first saw it on easter day ! but now that I have my own copy, it has become a christmas tradition
      but unlike "it s a wonderful life" and many others, you can see it the rest of the year too if you feel like it,

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      @@ginauccelatore3002 Which is good, but the magic of the annual broadcast and the anticipation leading up to it are lost.

    • @oliviarodrigofan5838
      @oliviarodrigofan5838 Před 2 lety +1

      Shirley Temple would be better

    • @oliviarodrigofan5838
      @oliviarodrigofan5838 Před 2 lety +1

      And she got abused

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 11 měsíci

      @@oliviarodrigofan5838 Nobody got abused. And stop trolling; Judy was the perfect choice.

  • @laurasmith3382
    @laurasmith3382 Před 4 lety +43

    The girl playing judy in this clip looks just like her

  • @caitlinfitzgerald4058
    @caitlinfitzgerald4058 Před 4 lety +203

    all the things that happened to her during the making of this movie is upsetting

    • @caitlinfitzgerald4058
      @caitlinfitzgerald4058 Před 4 lety +20

      Fun Fact she was forced to diet, a very cruel one because they thought she was too fat for the role (they almost cast Shirley temple) apparently, some of the actors that played the munchkins would go underneath her dress and harass her and her husband had said that they molested her and nothing was being done about it, she was also put on a lot of other drugs but she already relied on them so it just made her addiction worse, I don’t know spot on details of everything but from all the stuff I’ve seen or read, that’s what I’ve put tg. Sad really..such a magical film to so many around the world with such a horrible backstory that not many people know about.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 4 lety +6

      Many of the things she's said to have experienced-- she didn't. Or at the very least, not to the ludicrous degree that certain rumormongers would have people believe.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 4 lety +3

      @@caitlinfitzgerald4058 She wasn't "forced on a diet," she was placed on a diet in the hopes that her very womanly curves could be lessened by it-- she was, after all, playing a child.
      None of the Singer Midgets tried any such thing with her; they were human beings, not animals, not monsters. Judy's THIRD husband, who was not a part of her life when she was making "Wizard," told the same lies about the midgets that others have. In truth, she and they got along very well. Meinhardt Raabe, who played the Coroner, said of her, "We were accepted as equals by her. She would sit on the steps on the set with the rest of us and chat every day." (quoted in "The Wizard of Oz: The Official 50th Anniversary Pictorial History" by John Fricke, Jay Scarfone, and William Stillman)
      Judy was not put on any other meds than the ones her mum had had her on since she was about 13, and they were scarcely taken on a daily basis.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 3 lety +1

      @Xcuze She wasn't fat at all, she was voluptuous, which was why she was put on a reduced food intake diet to try and slim those curves a bit; plus, there was the way the dress was designed and the cloth that bound her breasts. In any case, Mervyn LeRoy always intended for her to play Dorothy because of her amazing voice and presence. It was also something of a back reference to the first actress who ever played Dorothy, Anna Laughlin, who was fifteen when she played the part on stage in 1902.

    • @aaronweiser5421
      @aaronweiser5421 Před 3 lety +1

      I just wander how accurate this movie is, how do they know what the actors said in their private lives.....

  • @ronniebishop2496
    @ronniebishop2496 Před 4 lety +51

    When Tammy Blanchard came out as Judy in the Wizard of Oz I dropped my lower jaw, she looked just like her.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 4 lety +13

      She was amazing in that series! Just a pity that the costumes for her three friends were so shoddy.

    • @officialchase02
      @officialchase02 Před 11 měsíci

      Me too Tammy looked just like Judy

  • @lvelez1999
    @lvelez1999 Před 4 lety +56

    Its so cool how some of the scenes go from the real Shirley Temple and the real Judy Garland to the Actresses ..... wow. Beautiful

    • @hana1150
      @hana1150 Před 4 lety +1

      But i jist can not get use to actresses faces it is weard

    • @zurinavarrete3544
      @zurinavarrete3544 Před 4 lety

      I love it to♥️I'ts like if it was un the same biopic so beautiful🤗

    • @seanricketts7789
      @seanricketts7789 Před rokem

      Along with Jack Haley &
      Ray Bolger & Bert Lahr

  • @raea3588
    @raea3588 Před 4 lety +82

    I've seen many interviews of Shirley Temple when she was in her early 60s plugging her autobiography and she was asked many times how she felt about not getting the role of Dorothy in "The Wizard of Oz"? Shirley always answered that of course, she had wanted to play Dorothy. She loved the Oz books and the character but in hind sight we all know that Judy Garland was the best actress for the role

    • @underzog
      @underzog Před 3 lety +4

      I m also afraid to say that Shirley Temple dodged the bullet on that one. The whole production of Oz was extremely rough with third degree burns for Margaret Hamilton and starvation for Judy -- not to mention one of the drunken Munchkins trying to digitally molest her Pres. Biden style.

    • @Jerry-hp5sf
      @Jerry-hp5sf Před 2 lety +4

      @@underzog Biden isn’t the one who said he wanted to date his own daughter, trump was.
      Trump...the true pedophile.

    • @jlpack62
      @jlpack62 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Jerry-hp5sf Don't feed the trolls. They live in their own bizarre reality anyway.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      @@underzog Any movie production is rough; "Wizard" is actually one of the less rough ones. Far worse things have happened in other movies, and I mean recent ones.
      Judy was neither starved nor molested, and none of the Munchkins was ever drunk on the set. Frank Morgan? Different story, but he had an uncanny ability to hold his liquor.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      @@Jerry-hp5sf Source and context please?

  • @susandavis3544
    @susandavis3544 Před 4 lety +173

    I just can't see Shirley singing a song like Over the Rainbow. Shirley was a very talented little girl, but her voice just didn't have the range or power that Judy had.

    • @RayPointerChannel
      @RayPointerChannel Před 4 lety +13

      By 1930, Shirley Temple's voice was becoming "softer". Her voice did not develop strength as she grew older, and her acting did not quite mature with her, either. There is no argument that Judy Garland was destined to be Dorothy and in the process, her portrayal made the character an icon that has been endured for generations.

    • @violetbrown2372
      @violetbrown2372 Před 4 lety +4

      not many people do. considering she wasn't even 5 feet tall, the fact that her voice was so powerful is astounding. "The little thing with the great big voice." indeed.

    • @DisWldFrk90
      @DisWldFrk90 Před 4 lety +2

      They definitely wouldn't have had Over the Rainbow in the film if Shirley had played Dorothy. Harold Arlen specifically composed it for Judy Garland. He'd have to have composed a different song to fit Shirley. He had a hard enough time coming up with a genius score like "Over the Rainbow" (he talks about how it was the last song he composed for the movie and the most difficult in an interview) he'd have probably had an even harder time with Shirley as Shirley typically only sang cheery tunes and this setting is not supposed to be cheery.

    • @aaronweiser5421
      @aaronweiser5421 Před 3 lety +4

      Shirley was too little for this part

    • @snap_fit8686
      @snap_fit8686 Před 3 lety +1

      Shirley was too young to crave "a place" over the rainbow .. it will be different kind of genre

  • @kookieluver19242
    @kookieluver19242 Před 4 lety +124

    Also dont forgot one of the MGM producers exposed himself to Shirley and he got upset that she laughed at him

    • @laalaag2auntyayag776
      @laalaag2auntyayag776 Před 4 lety +4

      Arthur Freed, one of the MGM execs "championing" Judy, mentioned at the beginning of this video.

    • @arleen123100
      @arleen123100 Před 4 lety +3

      Really? What happened?

    • @sleepypanda9085
      @sleepypanda9085 Před 4 lety +16

      Not surprised. Hollywood is a cesspool of perverts. How old was she?

    • @kookieluver19242
      @kookieluver19242 Před 4 lety +5

      Nela 10 or 11 :(

    • @zpozuniverse4562
      @zpozuniverse4562 Před 4 lety +2

      7:39 wishbone the dog comes barking & talking helloo!! At my door

  • @austinrenteria
    @austinrenteria Před 5 lety +199

    It's hard to believe that Shirley Temple would've been in The Wizard of Oz instead of Judy. I also bet the movie wouldn't have done so well if that happened.

    • @larrycom
      @larrycom Před 4 lety +13

      That just shows you that corporations are not intrested in art, only money.

    • @thewizfan7627
      @thewizfan7627 Před 4 lety +3

      I AGREE

    • @specterman2000
      @specterman2000 Před 4 lety +6

      Do you know even in her old age Shirley Temple was still griping about not being cast as Dorothy?

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 Před 4 lety +9

      @@specterman2000 well wizard of oz was a HUGE movie and Dorothy was a Huge role!

    • @edmonddantes3640
      @edmonddantes3640 Před 4 lety +2

      @@specterman2000 and your point? I can think of others who regretted not getting parts.

  • @wpl6661
    @wpl6661 Před 4 lety +91

    It's interesting how that dividing line between pubescence and adulthood changes the picture. Shirley was a child. Judy was a young woman. By being a young woman she appeals to a broader audience. If Shirley is in the movie it becomes a Shirley Temple movie. By Judy being in it, it became the Wizard of Oz. A completely different entity.
    In the end, both were mistreated and abused by the industry and the problems of public perception. People couldn't accept a grown up Shirley Temple. Her life became miserable and soon she was a divorced young mother with little money. Judy on the other hand became an overworked pill popping hamster on a treadmill. Going from man to man and never being happy. Shirley had to escape Hollywood to find happiness and contentment as well as a purpose in life. Judy never could find those things. Both were great talents in their own right. Both ended up chewed up and spit out by a business which was fickle and unforgiving. Run by men for their own benefit.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      Except that Judy was a teen (though a very sophisticated one), and via a combination of elements, she presented a very convincing prepubescent, so much so that people who met her after seeing "Wizard" were surprised that she was as mature as she was.

    • @cc1k435
      @cc1k435 Před 3 měsíci

      Both married very young and hoped to shed their childhood movie personas as soon as they could. It was not easy for either of them, if not for entirely the same reasons. 😢

  • @jadaallen3646
    @jadaallen3646 Před 2 lety +5

    Judy Garland was born to play Dorothy. So, glad that Shirley Temple didn't get the part. Even, Shirley said that Judy Garland was born for those ruby slippers and that sometimes the gods know best. And Shirley was right on the money when she said that. I first saw The Wizard of Oz when I was a 4-year-old pre-schooler. That was my first introduction to Judy Garland and I have been smitten with her and the movie ever since. Judy Garland inspired me to want to become a famous singer-actress and The Wizard of Oz is still my favorite movie of all-time. And I still watch The Wizard of Oz to this day even at age 29.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 11 měsíci +1

      It's worth noting that Shirley did eventually make it to Oz, and in a sense, went Judy one better. She played Princess Ozma, the ruler of Oz, in a 1960 T.V. version of "The Marvelous Land of Oz."

  • @stinggodswrestler1143
    @stinggodswrestler1143 Před 4 lety +185

    Shirley temple had a loving family as much as a successful career but judy didn't her mother saw her as no more than a product

    • @truly3743
      @truly3743 Před 4 lety +34

      That’s true Shirley Temple was blessed with a loving kind mother who looked out for her all the tine!! Poor Judy her mother used her as a pay check!!! Shameful

    • @cheesycauliflower4267
      @cheesycauliflower4267 Před 4 lety +10

      Bad it’s honestly so fucking sad, like Judy’s mum would give her pills to sleep and lose weight from a young age and it’s so sad to think that if she had a caring mother she most likely wouldn’t have died the way she did 😔😔

    • @charlotteviolettem4764
      @charlotteviolettem4764 Před 3 lety +5

      yes but shirley mother was not nice she got forced to do stuff she didn’t want to

    • @ashley_said_what016
      @ashley_said_what016 Před 3 lety +4

      Thats why Judy needed this movie and didn't need it she did need it because it would be her big break and because this movie also made her a drug addict and her real dream was to be a nurse when she grew up

    • @stinggodswrestler1143
      @stinggodswrestler1143 Před 3 lety +5

      @@cheesycauliflower4267 i think her downfall really began with the shock of her fathers death. she never recovered from it. her father loved her and treated her like a normal kid.

  • @sharonfauber2118
    @sharonfauber2118 Před 4 lety +65

    Shirley would have made Over the Rain a whole different theme. Judy Made Dorothy come alive. 💜🕊

    • @gachanoodle950
      @gachanoodle950 Před 4 lety +5

      Sharon Fauber Shirley would have went through what Judy went through I think Judy would be proud to know she protected a innocent 12 year old

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      @@gachanoodle950 Much of what people say Judy went through is false.

  • @jackofalltrades9311
    @jackofalltrades9311 Před 4 lety +40

    Judy is so Beautiful. I love her.

  • @edlazaromaia8142
    @edlazaromaia8142 Před 4 lety +21

    I love Judy Garland forever...

  • @petrberanek4230
    @petrberanek4230 Před 4 lety +25

    Look like they forget about Technicolor shift of colors. In reality, set was colored to look right on Technicolor film, therefore white dress was in fact light pink (to look white on Technicolor) and yellow brick road could not be same yellow as seen in the movie, because it looked green on Technicolor. But it will be confusing for today audience that there were different colors on the set and in finished movie. Because of very low sensitivity, there were multiple lights pointed to every hole, otherwise it will end as pitch black.

  • @youtoo2233
    @youtoo2233 Před 4 lety +123

    Actually Shirley Temple was closer in age to the character of Dorthy than Judy Garland was. They had to hide her curves so she would look younger. It didn't work though, she still easily looked 16/17

    • @terrysmith8749
      @terrysmith8749 Před 3 lety +5

      No, Judy didn't look that old. The tallest Judy ever got was 4'11". I'm quite sure Judy wasn't that tall during the shooting of Oz. Maybe 4 foot 6 or 7 inches. None of this matters, the movie is an all time classic. Probably the most famous movie ever made World Wide. I don't think Judy ever Looked to tall in this film. Her being a little older and a little taller
      was great for the film. The film didn't appear overly childish, with a little older Dorothy.

    • @c.r.t1586
      @c.r.t1586 Před 3 lety +3

      @@terrysmith8749 well you don't think. But other people thought.
      They made Judy to crash diet and made her smoke cigarette to lose weight. Kept her on drugs.

    • @valeweathers
      @valeweathers Před 3 lety +2

      So Dorothy was 16 who cares haha

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      @@c.r.t1586 Wrong, wrong, and wrong. She ate less than she was used to eating, but she was used to eating a lot; in any case, it wasn't her weight so much as her curves that had to be reduced and or hidden. She was an avid anti-smoker in her teens. And she was not on any drugs at that time either.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      @@valeweathers Dorothy was twelve.

  • @ShirleyStJohn
    @ShirleyStJohn Před 5 lety +34

    how bitter sweet. RIP, Judy

  • @genevieve9366
    @genevieve9366 Před 4 lety +28

    Even though Judy might’ve been a bit old and her curves seemed weird for a young character like Dorothy, Judy still had that innocence in her face and she is also very petite. Not to mention she was born to play dorothy😂 Judy is and forever will be the literal in real life Dorothy, she was perfect💕

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      She went on a diet, as well as a course of exercise with her stunt double, in order to trim down, and wore a corset to flatten her chest and hide her hips. If you see her in any other of the films she made before and immediately after "Wizard," you will see a definite difference.

  • @jleon1985
    @jleon1985 Před 4 lety +9

    This is a great mash up of the two movies

  • @JohnnyGNV
    @JohnnyGNV Před 4 lety +35

    Hey listen you did a great job of putting this together, a little of Me and My Shadows and some of the Shirley Temple story - great editing -

  • @Daleylife
    @Daleylife Před 4 lety +21

    This scene starts out very interestingly. In the new JUDY film, Judy's relationship with Mayer is much different as well as some other details. Judy had begun writing an autobiography, detailing her thoughts of Mayer among other things, and those were discovered two years before this aired.

  • @truly3743
    @truly3743 Před 4 lety +21

    It wouldn’t have been the same without Judy Garland as Dorothy! If Shirley got it I would be thinking she was Heidi the whole time living on the mountain with her grandfather

  • @ggaffgaff3072
    @ggaffgaff3072 Před 4 lety +54

    To quote Shirley, “sometimes the gods know best”. I think she was relieved to not get the part -especially after what happened to her at mgm. Shirley went on to be a productive member of society and Judy struggled. What they did to Judy on that movie was horrible

    • @RayPointerChannel
      @RayPointerChannel Před 4 lety +6

      It's not so much what "they did to Judy on the movie that was horrible," but what they did to her during her years at MGM. Your implication is that they abused her on THE WIZARD OF OZ. That's not quite accurate. The "abuse" came about through the pills imposed on her to keep her weight down, which of course started at this point, but advanced with more "medications" to giver her "energy" to work well beyond normal hours. It had to have a toll on her, but that only became an issue by the mid 1940s.

    • @DM-cu5hp
      @DM-cu5hp Před 4 lety +1

      @@RayPointerChannel You're not wrong, but at the same time neither is the OP. Judy was subjected to a lot of harsh constrictions on set of Wizard of Oz. For example, they didn't like her well-endowed chest, because they felt it took away from her youthful ingenue appeal, so they actually taped her breasts down harshly during the entirety of filming.

    • @oooh19
      @oooh19 Před 4 lety +3

      yea but wasn't Shirley also abused/molested too?

    • @missingwords8218
      @missingwords8218 Před 4 lety

      Arthur Freed exposed himself to Shirley Temple in his office.
      She would have been 11 or 12 at the time.

    • @ggaffgaff3072
      @ggaffgaff3072 Před 4 lety

      oooh19 yes-that’s what I meant by “especially after what happened to her at mgm”. Aurther Freed flashed her when she went to meet with him for the Dorthy role. He kicked her out of his office when she laughed at him for exposing himself. I think she was 12

  • @HeyitsDee
    @HeyitsDee Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for posting this video

  • @sharonfauber2118
    @sharonfauber2118 Před 4 lety +61

    Shirley could have been one of the munchkins 😂💜

    • @gabalfayomega
      @gabalfayomega Před 4 lety +3

      Whata stupid comment?

    • @j.i.r608
      @j.i.r608 Před 4 lety +2

      Are you kidding? A huge star like her in a minor role like that? Please!

    • @ahslbbh602
      @ahslbbh602 Před 4 lety +2

      Jan-Ida Ripton their just playing around

  • @Dwayne_MitchellYT
    @Dwayne_MitchellYT Před 4 lety +50

    I probably wouldn't never watch the Wizard of Oz if Shirley Temple was cast in it

    • @georgeacun3619
      @georgeacun3619 Před 4 lety +1

      Dwayne _ Mitchell 👎

    • @YTistooannoying
      @YTistooannoying Před 4 lety +2

      I totally would. While I think Judy was good, Shirley would have fit the role so much better.

    • @dilwarhussain9697
      @dilwarhussain9697 Před 4 lety +1

      StrangeViolette fuck off she’s a child

  • @ar5846
    @ar5846 Před 4 lety +10

    Both actors were amazing. It’s not always a good thing to make a judgment.

  • @drsunshine1959
    @drsunshine1959 Před 4 lety +4

    Terrific editing!

  • @boagmuskie
    @boagmuskie Před 2 lety +3

    I like how these 2 documentaries were spliced together. It shows 2 different perspectives of the casting process of Dorothy.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 11 měsíci

      Yes: one right, one wrong. ;-)

  • @agfaw4966
    @agfaw4966 Před 2 lety +4

    Little Shirley had so many movies that people knew her by by 1939. Judy deserved her big break by then and Wizard of Oz got her that. She was perfect for the part❤

  • @jeffrey322
    @jeffrey322 Před 4 lety +2

    Very well done!

  • @LittleMissMere
    @LittleMissMere Před 4 lety +11

    This is really well done. I love how you put it all together, these are some of my favorite bio movies

  • @1zelcat
    @1zelcat Před rokem +1

    Wonderful compilation--never saw anything like this before.

  • @areasonableperson24
    @areasonableperson24 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent and Awesome - its groovy how you edited these together…..

  • @MasonThomas_yt
    @MasonThomas_yt Před 2 lety

    FANTASIC VIDEO!!! INCREDIBLE FR

  • @Apollo_Blaze
    @Apollo_Blaze Před 4 lety +24

    As much as I respect Shirley Temple she never could have delivered the emotional version of "Over the Rainbow" the way Judy did...it would have been a totally different song

  • @Musicradio77Network
    @Musicradio77Network Před 4 lety +22

    This went from a documentary to excerpts from “Child Star: A Shirley Temple Story” In which I still have it on VHS, and an excerpt from “Life With Judy Garland: Me and My Shadows”.

    • @trevormichael4906
      @trevormichael4906 Před 4 lety +3

      Both are great! Documentary would have been cool though

  • @longgrayline8055
    @longgrayline8055 Před 4 lety +7

    I won’t argue if someone calls The Wizard of Oz the greatest film of all time. What a film. Without Judy Garland, it wouldn’t have reached those heights.

    • @eldiran2
      @eldiran2 Před 3 lety

      They recalculated 'Most Popular Films' a few years back, reaizing that with a ticket to 'Avatar' for $12, you can't compare it to 'Gone With Wind' which cost 25 cents. So, when all the profits are adjusted to modern rates, 'Gone With The Wind' IS the biggest film of all time. But I'd argue that 'Wizard of Oz' is easily The Most-Popular (as in Seen) Film of all time.

  • @edwardklintworth2004
    @edwardklintworth2004 Před 3 lety +2

    Great job! Thanks so much.

  • @highlyfavored12
    @highlyfavored12 Před 4 lety +17

    Why is everyone knocking Shirley? She was a woderful little actress. How do we know Shirley wasn't born to play Dorothy if we've never seen her play the character?

    • @j.i.r608
      @j.i.r608 Před 4 lety

      Well said!

    • @zo_eliabeth
      @zo_eliabeth Před 4 lety

      exactly!!

    • @helenadair32
      @helenadair32 Před 4 lety

      So true, I loved her and Judy

    • @eldiran2
      @eldiran2 Před 3 lety

      Because it is the masterpiece it is WITH Garland---she is the emotional center of the film. Temple was a cute kid with minor talents, but with her, it would have just been another in the long line of throwaway Temple B films. It NEVER would have had the power or lasting endurance as 'a Shirely Temple film'.

  • @nettiegurl
    @nettiegurl Před 4 lety +9

    Shirley though closer to the actual Dorothy's age of 12/13, still looked 8, and couldn't nail 'Over the Rainbow'. Judy made the song her own and was padded to hide her figure.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      Dorothy was likely as young as six in the first Oz book, and she never got any older than ten; when she and her aunt and uncle moved to Oz in the sixth book, she stopped aging.

  • @johnpetty3574
    @johnpetty3574 Před 4 lety +10

    YOU KNOW ..... WIZARD OF OZ IS THE ONLY FILM OF HERS IVE EVER SEEN !!!! I THINK I'LL TRACK DOWN SOME OF HER OLDER STUFF.

  • @paoroha3228
    @paoroha3228 Před 4 lety +1

    Wonderful

  • @violetbrown2372
    @violetbrown2372 Před 4 lety +10

    From what understand, everyone on the set just adored Judy. "She is Dorothy" well...duh...

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety +1

      That's correct; she amazed everyone with her wit, her talent, and her intelligence. Bottom line, she was impossible to dislike.

  • @specterman2000
    @specterman2000 Před 4 lety +20

    When 20th Century Fox saw the success of "The Wizard of Oz" they tried to make their own children's fantasy film with Shirley Temple called "The Blue Bird" but it was a financial box office flop!

    • @ginauccelatore3002
      @ginauccelatore3002 Před 4 lety +6

      I like blue bird a lot, really a lot, and watch it from time to time
      but wizard of oz !!!! I could watch it all day (and sometimes do)
      judy brings a sadness, a longing, that takes wizard of oz to another dimension, not even found in the books

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network Před 4 lety +1

      I have the VHS of “Blue Bird” and it was one of the her films which was a guilty pleasure.

    • @ginauccelatore3002
      @ginauccelatore3002 Před 4 lety +2

      @@Musicradio77Network exactly
      something needn t be perfect to be enjoyable, the guiltiest of all guilty pleasures is the infamous "star wars holiday special" , it s one of my holidays traditions every year despite the bad pirate quality
      george lucas wants all copies destroyed (sorry george, you won t have mine )
      I so like it when han solo saves chewie's young son, it s so harrison ford !
      in all his roles, as well as in real life, harrison goes bersek when harm is done to a child and he s right
      shirley temple is one of the best symbols of childhood innocence and happiness even in hard times

    • @ginniekinz5401
      @ginniekinz5401 Před 4 lety +1

      MTN Productions yes I had the tape too, and I’d watch it over and over. Now I get the similarities between both movies

    • @hayleyscocoabear100
      @hayleyscocoabear100 Před 4 lety +1

      I liked the Blue Bird,but it was no Wizard Of Oz.I did not like all Shirley`s movies,but I have several I liked.Vocal wise,Judy was the better Dorothy.

  • @violetbrown2372
    @violetbrown2372 Před 4 lety +9

    it's okay Shirley, you'll make "The little princess," and all will be well.

    • @kennethwayne6857
      @kennethwayne6857 Před 3 lety

      From what I heard, Shirley's consolation prize was a film called "The Blue Bird" which unfortunately flopped.

  • @rcruz4510
    @rcruz4510 Před 2 lety +1

    "My little hunchback"

  • @kittymuffins6484
    @kittymuffins6484 Před 4 lety +8

    This film became a classic because they had the smarts to have a teenager play Dorothy instead of a little kid, therefore a more appealing charactor to a wider audience. Some of you forget that while a classic and even epic film, the TWOO was scary movie at the time; much, much too sinister for a child lead. In fact they were really pushing it as far as they could in the juxtaposition Dorothy's innocence against all creepiness and horror of the story.

    • @ginauccelatore3002
      @ginauccelatore3002 Před 4 lety

      remember "return to oz" with fairuza balk , it s a horror movie
      not that I don t like it, I love it, it s an annual tradition in my house
      a halloween tradition

    • @jackjules7552
      @jackjules7552 Před 2 lety

      35 year old Diana Ross thought she could play Dorothy.

  • @erinwitcraft9141
    @erinwitcraft9141 Před 3 lety +2

    To be fair to Shirley, she actually was more age-appropriate for the part, since Dorothy is meant to be a little girl in the book (and her desire to return home is more appropriate for a child character than a young lady). And, added to that, the stress of having to play a character younger than her seemed to take its toll on Judy Garland.
    That said, Garland was probably the best choice. As a lot of people mentioned, it would have probably turned into a Temple vehicle (with everyone tapping) if she got the part.

  • @ashley_said_what016
    @ashley_said_what016 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm glad they let her be herself

  • @fredblonder7850
    @fredblonder7850 Před 3 lety +4

    According to legend, when Margaret Hamilton was told she would be playing the Wicked Witch of the West, she replied: “What? I don’t get to play Dorothy?”. That would have been a very different movie.

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 Před 2 lety

      I've never heard that; what I heard was that her agent said that she had a role in the movie, and she said, "What part?" to which he replied, "Well, the Wicked Witch, what else?" She liked to tell that story. 🙂

    • @elizabethmarielunacordoba9956
      @elizabethmarielunacordoba9956 Před 2 lety

      Lol? I thought she would be Dorothy? 😳😳

  • @kojinaoftheinvertedeye810

    That scene with the three and Judy (played by Tammy?) just made me laugh “she pushed me!” And a little bit after “Actually you pushed me Bulgar” the two sentences made me laugh hard, I don’t know why.

  • @katiehickey4539
    @katiehickey4539 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm sure both Shirley and Judy would've been great friends.

  • @mariaaline2795
    @mariaaline2795 Před 4 lety +15

    You guys don’t understand I hoped that none of them got the part when I found out that judy had 80 cigarettes a day dietary pills and was molested on the set for the whole filming of wizard of oz and soon when she got older she soon died of an accidental pill overdose and she hated herself and the founder of mgm called her a little hunchback and the little munchkins used to put there hands up her skirt and her costars hated her in the end I wished the movie never existed even though it was a big part of our childhood

    • @amberlights1
      @amberlights1 Před 4 lety +3

      Her Oz co-stars never hated her. They remained friends & Ray Bolger & Margaret Hamilton went to her funeral. He appeared on Judy's t.v. show, reflecting fondly together of their experiences working on the film.

    • @truly3743
      @truly3743 Před 4 lety +2

      Her co stars from Oz all liked Judy so did all the munchkins they said she was nice to them. The part about them sticking their hand up her dress was not true! And I never heard she was being molested during the making of Oz? Never read or heard of that.

  • @pattibrooks1907
    @pattibrooks1907 Před rokem

    JUdy was a gifted funny lady and she was not tragic !She had tragic things happen but she was not tragic !

  • @michaelmadrid4490
    @michaelmadrid4490 Před 4 lety +3

    I am glad that Judy got the paper of Dorothy of wizard of oz

  • @katycoolidge9615
    @katycoolidge9615 Před rokem +1

    I love Judy garlands aka Dorothy ♥ she was tough rip Dorothy Judy garland they gave you meds and that's what endedur life later on

  • @JordanJSparks
    @JordanJSparks Před 4 lety +2

    Where is this footage from? is there another Judy Garland movie out there?

  • @robertmharper4492
    @robertmharper4492 Před 2 lety +1

    The casting of this film story-behind-the-story is great!

  • @danafidler8815
    @danafidler8815 Před 4 lety +2

    Where did this video come from?

  • @zpozuniverse4562
    @zpozuniverse4562 Před 4 lety +3

    Sometimes use 5:40-10:00 as strategy

  • @MrMatthewScarborough
    @MrMatthewScarborough Před 4 lety +5

    What movie did the scenes come from for this video? Obviously it is a television docudrama or something like that.

    • @eldiran2
      @eldiran2 Před 3 lety

      The Judy scenes are from a TV movie "Me and MY Shadow" where both actresses playing Judy--this one and Judy Davis as an adult, were amazing in capturing her.

  • @thewonderfulworldofderek6087

    It's history good job h

  • @darrellphilip3295
    @darrellphilip3295 Před 4 lety +6

    Tammy Grimes is perfect as Judy Garland.

  • @nazareno492
    @nazareno492 Před 2 lety +1

    Is this a movie?? I wanna watch it full but I can’t find it

  • @MooTelevision
    @MooTelevision Před 3 měsíci

    So the “deal” for Harlow and Gable has been debunked. Shirley was never officially in the run for Dorothy and no deal was ever in the works. The head offices did want Shirley, but after an unofficial audition they all decided she wasn’t right for the part.

  • @bevtucker2223
    @bevtucker2223 Před 4 lety +8

    “I almost stepped on that dog again” 😂💀

  • @challenges1875
    @challenges1875 Před 4 lety +4

    Love Shirley but can’t imagine what that would have been

  • @lisawentworth6831
    @lisawentworth6831 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, that girl really looks like Judy as a kid!

  • @finnfunko3293
    @finnfunko3293 Před 4 lety +1

    Sooo they filmed it all.......?

  • @kkchannel2792
    @kkchannel2792 Před 4 lety +2

    Is this a movie ?

  • @andygaines9686
    @andygaines9686 Před 4 lety +9

    The way the film company treated both of the girls like they were cattle to be traded is awful, but, sadly common for the time.

  • @katiehickey4539
    @katiehickey4539 Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe if Shirley Temple played one of the Lullaby League Girls in The Wizard of Oz.

  • @KendrickHarrisKenfinity
    @KendrickHarrisKenfinity Před 2 lety +1

    "Somewhere over the raindow" our unique and powerful performer will gain residence as an older professional, along with teenage star. Stay safe everyone!

  • @eryntheempath5940
    @eryntheempath5940 Před 3 lety +1

    What’s the name of this movie?

  • @Slapontherisk
    @Slapontherisk Před 4 lety +22

    That girl who play Shirley look older like 9 or 10

    • @annmary964
      @annmary964 Před 4 lety

      She looks at least 15 to me!

    • @xalexflanaganx
      @xalexflanaganx Před 4 lety +4

      Annamaria Balzani are u joking

    • @MiguelRamirezVA
      @MiguelRamirezVA Před 4 lety

      A Flanagan could possibly be a bit older than definitely not 15

  • @lilyn5626
    @lilyn5626 Před 4 lety +2

    is this from a full-length movie??

    • @garlandvibes1348
      @garlandvibes1348 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes, it's "Me and my Shadows" and it's available on CZcams 💙

  • @cinnamonbear19591
    @cinnamonbear19591 Před 4 lety +7

    If Shirley Temple was cast in TWOO we would have never known the difference. She would have been good too. The difference is the maturity that Judy brought to the role because she was older and also because her singing voice was more mature. Shirley was 11 in 1939 and Judy was 17. Shirley may have been good but Judy was great. That's my opinion.

  • @schallrd1
    @schallrd1 Před 3 lety +2

    Remember when Dorothy gave the TinMan an oil job? 🥵

  • @josephpalermo
    @josephpalermo Před 4 lety +3

    What movie is this from?!

  • @urtooslow4415
    @urtooslow4415 Před 3 lety +2

    I feel bad for the cast a wizard of oz

  • @ldhproductions112
    @ldhproductions112 Před 4 lety +1

    Is this from a movie?

  • @macmahon_matt
    @macmahon_matt Před rokem

    Due to Jean Harlow's Death plus Temple having a Contract at Fox they refuse to loan her out and bring back Clark Gable, even though Temple's voice wasn't good for Over the Rainbow.

  • @Wduck_
    @Wduck_ Před 2 lety +1

    Is this a documentary?

  • @imjustalex6931
    @imjustalex6931 Před 4 lety +5

    What show is this from??? I thought this was gonna be a documentary thing 😂

    • @TheGregoryDeanShow
      @TheGregoryDeanShow Před 3 lety +1

      Me and my shadows Judy Garland. Better than the movie Judy 😂

  • @Happy_HIbiscus
    @Happy_HIbiscus Před 4 lety +1

    Dorothy 🙂🙂🙂🙂

  • @rcruz4510
    @rcruz4510 Před 2 lety +1

    When Shirley was being interviewed by Dick Cavett, she said Fox tried to imitate the success of "Oz" by making "The Bluebird" with Shirley. Shirley said the reviews said "The Bluebird laid an egg."

  • @entertainer1987
    @entertainer1987 Před 4 lety +5

    This is from another CZcams user, friendsfamilyaccount, who posted this information 10 years ago that debunks the Jean Harlow having to do with Shirley Temple potentially getting the role of Dorothy.
    "First, Shirley was considered for the role initially, and BRIEFLY, at the insistence of some studio executives, as she had been the top box office draw for the past four years. The story says that Shirley was to be traded for Jean Harlow and Clark Gable to go and work and MGM. The problem is that MGM never bought the Oz property until January of 1938. Problem? Jean Harlow died more than half a year before, in June of 1937. Way too early to EVER have been part of an Oz negotiation.
    While it seems that the property was definitely bought with Judy in mind, (she had already made several films, radio appearances and records) MGM Musical Director Roger Edens informally auditioned Shirley by going over to Fox to hear her sing soon after the property was bought. Edens was Judy's champion and musical coach from the start. He immediately deemed the demands of the role to be beyond Shirley's musical range and that was pretty much the end of that. To further add to the legend, Shirley's own autobiography, and the Disney Movie "Child Star: The Shirley Temple Story" seem to state the Jean Harlow story as true, and further, at least the film, seems to imply that was the ONLY reason the deal fell through. Sources have said that this is what Shirley was told at the time to protect her feelings (she was only 9 in early 1938, after all, so you can't blame those who wanted to protect her, and she was probably justifiably disappointed to begin with.) And being nine, she believed what she was told. There were probably other talks of negotiations, for sure, as Fox execs wouldn't have bothered having Roger Edens audition her, but it had nothing to do with Jean Harlow. And Shirley's not getting the role had nothing to do with a trade falling through, but rather her vocal limitations."

  • @Anothertominohio
    @Anothertominohio Před 3 lety +2

    Hollywood seems like such a creepy place.

  • @taliyatofilau6029
    @taliyatofilau6029 Před 2 lety +1

    Judy Garland is Dorothy nobody else can dance down the yellow brick road like her

  • @katycoolidge9615
    @katycoolidge9615 Před rokem +1

    Wow kool

  • @ashley_said_what016
    @ashley_said_what016 Před 3 lety +1

    That good that the let her be herself

  • @awhmoon
    @awhmoon Před 4 lety +2

    where could i find documentary?

  • @CeltycSparrow
    @CeltycSparrow Před 4 lety +1

    Don't despair, Judy dear. I have seen the future and YOU play Dorothy instead of Shirley. lol

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 Před 4 lety +7

    Shirley Temple was always Shirley Temple, no matter the story. I love a Shirley Temple movie but have not so much enjoyed her in classics like "Heidi" or "A Little Princess" which require character actresses. Shirley in Oz would have been a farce. Judy Garland was the best for Dorothy all the way around.

    • @violetbrown2372
      @violetbrown2372 Před 3 lety +1

      I loved Shirley in the Little princess, I think she proved some serious "chops" for an 8 year old haunting hospitals for her father, and her ability to charm the socks off Queen Victoria!

  • @davidbranin969
    @davidbranin969 Před 3 lety +1

    Back in the day of 3 networks and no vcr's the kid buzz among my friends when the Wizard of Oz was on TV. Jockeying for the good seat in the living room and yelling "Saved" during the commercial break when you had to answer nature's call.

  • @amberalvia1101
    @amberalvia1101 Před rokem

    *Judy Garland : Me and My Shadows

  • @shawnalee9775
    @shawnalee9775 Před 4 lety +2

    And of course, we can all see, though Shirley was our lil sweet heart, Hollywood made the right choice. Both young women gave us all yrs. Of great movies, and tons of entertainment. In regards to Judy, Shirley Loved Hollywoods choice to film Judy instead. Love to both, and always remembered, as great actors.