To everyone here suffering, it will get better! I got mine about 2 weeks ago and I thought it was hell. Honestly, just accept that it kinda sucks but realise it only gets better with time! Some of my recommendations (approved by my orthodontist) are Jello, smoothies, ice cream floats, and rice with soup! Wishing all luck with your expansion :D
@@snoewyy i got one and i dont talk that differently some sounds are hard to say like for me “ch” because my tounge presses up against it but other than that i don’t have a lisp like people say you would get
I’ve had mine for almost 2 months now and it’s not that bad, the first 1-2 weeks I couldn’t eat and I hated it, also food ALWAYS got stuck up there and I panicked but now I can pretty much eat anything and my talking isn’t that bad, only a few vowels I can’t say like ‘eeh’ but other than that people don’t even notice it when I talk so it’s great! I also got a gap at the start but it closed itself.
i just got mine today and my top teeth are sore since i had gotten my top wires and it’s abit hard to swallow and talk kinda sucks but reading the comments is quite abit of comfort knowing it’ll get better soon
Hello, I want to say my experience at the moment with a pallet expander.When you get it in DO NOT SWALLOW, the glue doesn’t taste good, after they might twist it once at the ortho place then they send you off. There is honestly no pain when you turn the key it kinda feels like a headache in your nose and teeth. The worst part is eating, EVERYTHING gets stuck up there. That is my overall experience with it so far because I’ve had it for a day now. P.S you have a nasty lisp that goes away after some time
I started gagging at my ortho appointment when I got mine 😂😂😂 it was so embarrassing but I’ve always had a bad gag reflex so when I went to rinse my mouth I could taste the glue. It was awful 😂
@@bellarodriguez401 I'm sorry I can't really tell you because I have the removable ones which take like a second to put in so im not sure since there are many different types of expanders
This was so helpful! I wasn’t able to go to my son’s appointment when his expanded was placed so all these instructions make me feel so much more comfortable with caring for it. Thank you!
Hey y’all I got my expander like 2-4 weeks ago and the first week my mouth was sore 😮 now o can eat literally everything including sticky candy (not gum). Just to let you know food will most likely always get stuck up there but it’s easy to remove it. The first 2 weeks I used a toothpick to get food out but now I don’t really need that. That’s just an lil experience for people who is going to get it soon.
I’ve had mine for over a year at this point and quite frankly it’s getting to the point that I would rather have awful teeth than leave it in. It has caused me to choke on food on one occasion and the wire is constantly digging into my tongue. This thing sucks so bad that I would classify it as a torture device rather than a dental appliance.
@@drdougortho I’m not precisely sure as to the reason they’ve been in this long but I’m guessing it’s related to a crossbow which he will be installing in order to correct my overbite.
@@bellarodriguez401 not to long ! Maybe like 10 min they have to mold it into your teeth. Not painful what so ever, trust me I was really nervous to ! But all you’re gonna feel is pressure no pain.
I just got mine and it’s actually not that bad, it is hard to talk and pronounce words it’s also hard to swallow but it doesn’t hurt at all. I haven’t tried eating with it yet since I’m scared that I’ll choke since I can’t even swallow water.
@@mishmishmishmish2184 Yes it did. Within a week I was able to chew and swallow without a problem, talking wasn’t difficult and I got used to it. Soon enough it felt like it wasn’t even there!
I have to get one Wednesday!😤 I’m mad! Thank you for this thought. Edit: I got it yesterday the people who made it messed it up!!! Now I have to turn it from the back to the front! It’s horrible! I can’t eat because I can’t swallow! So I’m starving! And they turned it five times yesterday (yes I counted) and my mouth felt like it was going to explode!!!!!! They had to turn it a lot of times to make sure it would work. But it was so bad!
My almost 9 year old got hers on Tuesday and we are at Day 3. 1st and 2nd day she had trouble talking. Her gums were hurting from irritation. Used the wax given in the kit to relieve her. Today it’s not her gums but the tongue is getting irritated by the expander. Her speech has improved with it in today. Trying to keep her busy and active. Going in next week to see if they can adjust any of the metals. She has a wiggly tooth next to the piece. Take care everyone.
so um when i got my expander two days ago i had the urge to bite down so i did and i think i might've pushed my bracket things closer to my gum so now my two back teeth are really sensitive when i eat. what do i do?
My turning tool looks like a teeny wrench and I was given a little rubber string to attach to it so when I turned my expander I could grab the wrench out in case I dropped it in my mouth. It also made turning so easy compared to the one in the video since there wasn’t a hole to stick into, it would just click in place and I’d turn it towards my throat
@@Strayiscanceled yes had it in for 3 months the last few days I had it in , it started cutting my tounge 😕 , when I sneeze it hurted cause my tounge press against the expander . I don’t recommend the expander , the expander does work as long as u turn it how ur pose to
I dont 'know if you orthodontist gave you one, but we give our patients "proxy brushes" (looks like a tiny pipe-cleaner with a handle), to get out food that brushing/rinsing doesn't get... you can get them in the pharmacy/drug store!
I got top and bottom and oh boy just wow wow it hurts but you will get used to it but when you first get it try to eat like apple sauce or something soft and be prepared with pain killer and ibuprofen! Good luck 🍀
When I got mine it was odd at first but after a week or so you get used to it… I never used any of the wax or any of the little extras… eventually it was all worthed when I got it out and eventually got the braces out
Just got it today, and i thought I did something wrong when I tried eating the school rice lol. Eating so far and drinking is so annoying, food everywhere lol.
I'm in day 3 and food keeps getting stuck between the roof of my mouth and the expander top, what do I do? I've even tried drinking lots of water after each bite but it's still stuck. (Thank you so much for answering all of the comments(
The designs of expanders vary, and how close to the roof if your mouth will vary as well... some will be more prone to getting food stuck than others. You will get used to it and get better at getting it out. Make sure to brush ON the expander after meals and a waterpik is helpful to keep it clean as well.
Hi I’ll be getting this in a few weeks. I’m autistic and struggle very much with sensory issues. Will this be especially hard for me and how can I make it easier??
We've treated many kids with sensory issues, and while the first week or so may be tough, you should get used to it! You just have to go through it. But talking as much as possible early on helps you to adjust faster. So drive your parents crazy and talk and sing a lot the first few days!
Do you have patients that got it on and just couldn’t do it so they got it off? Does every orthodontist have the option for removable ones for kids who can’t stop choking?
I've NEVER had a patient in my 18 year career, that didn't eventually get used to in in every way! Some take a day or 2, a few will take a week or so, but every kid has adapted and done great! Removable ones just don't give you true expansion of the palate, despite what some may say.
Question, I've had my quad expander for about 2 months now and I wake up every day with an imprint from the expander causing my tongue to be in tremendous amount of pain, yesterday I woke up with a bloody tongue. Do you recommend anything I can wear through the night for my quad expander, for it to stop pressing against the expander through out the night? I've tried rpe tongue guards but they wouldn't stay on and they would rip. Just ordered some orthodots (wax) to try and put on the expander for overnight use.
This happens to people who push their tongue up against their palate. just keep your tongue clean so it won't get infected,and yes,the wax is a good idea!
Hi im writing from Turkey. This is the best explaination i have come across. If we dont turn it properly do we have to see the dr each time. Or can we fix it ourselves.
Depends what you mean. I can't be sure, but you shouldn't have to see your dr every day to turn it, it should be done yourself unless you "lose" the hole/cant find it because it gets stuck.
I just got mine 3 days ago, and i got the very uncomfortable ones where they have those brackets on the sides closet to the cheek and i was wondering how i could stop it from making my cheek from bleeding. I got wax to stick on the brackets but sometimes it doesn't work and doesnt stay for that long. But my main question ; is there anyway to stop it from hurting my cheek while eating for the first 3 weeks
the wax will stay on BETTER if you can somehow dry the area of metal before putting it on. i know it shard, but usually a papertowel around your finger to dry it a little while pulling your cheek out, then stick the wax on. I know its annoying, but eventually you will get used to the tubes that stick out.
i wish i had that, now it like i cant even eat anymore. the jaw expander then looked actually good and you could chew/eat and stuff but now i got mine and they totally changed the style and now i cant eat
i got mine almost 9 days ago and i hate it. i’m feeling nauseous every day after eating. going to school with that thing in your mouth it’s really hard. i can’t wait to get it off and eat whatever i want. it’s hard ik but it’s the only way to fix my smile so…
@@drdougortho I see. Thanks for responding. I’m wondering what’s better for the expansion and pressure? Like does it help to have it at the top bent like that or is it preferred for the arc of the expander to be more wide an thus floating?
May I ask how long this treatment gonna be? Is it 3-4 years? After expanding process, it has to be the phase II ( braces) or it can be an option? My boy is 10 years who is looking for the orthodontist. Please give advice!!!!
Most treatment is 18-24 months, but it obviously varies for every patient. The only way to know all the options for anyone is to be seen by the Orthodox will be treated by.
@@drdougortho thank you for the quick response. I have 2 orthodontist: one said it takes 18 months & will have braces in 2 years. One said it takes 3-4 years, no need braces after b/c it depends on how permanent teeth growth and the way they growth. Can you please advise how to choose the right orthodontist?
@@liennim637 unfortunately there is no way for me to tell which plan is appropriate unless I examine a patient. Talk to other people in your area who have been treated by different orthodontists, and ask your dentist if THEY or THEIR FAMILY needed treatment, where would they go?
Very common to feel that way the first day! You can and will swallow, it just feels weird. And the speaking will improve in a few days the more you keep talking! Don't worry!
bruh i cant even swallow my own salvia and i cant enjoy food anymore everything gets stuck up there and it takes like 10mins to clean and get the food out i wont be eating again until i get it off… my skinny era
@@drdougortho okay thank you doc, one question, the expander is rlly irritating the back of my tongue especially when i talk and i got a sore spot… is that normal?? and what can i do to stop it from hurting my tongue?
@@yuuvien you put wax in the screw area of the expander... u just have to brush it out when parents need to turn it. this will go away usually after a week or so, your tongue will get used to it.
dr which brand water pick do u recommend? also do the floss , water-pick , last brush teeth ? my daughters has 6 cavity’s ….. i wasn’t aware of her needing to use the special tooth paste at night , and not to rinse her mouth… i feel awful . so i appreciate all the tips .. my younger kid need a expander , so that will be 3 kids in braces
Ok the order is floss (or waterpik) then brush for 2 min. Then fluoride rinse for 60 seconds. I don't have a preference of waterpik. But the 2 best electric tooth brushes in my opinion are the oral B or sonicare
Well often you have to turn it for a month or longer... Then it's usually 6 months AFTER the turning is complete before it's removed. But ask your sister 8 when it will be removed.
Day 3 with the Palatal Expender I hate this! FOR me i cry everyday because i cant eat nothing, i only eat one meal and its soup everytime i tired to eat something else it will get stuck up there! I just want to get it off, but iam not sure how long iam going to keep i hope not a long time. If you have really bad teeth how long do you keep it on? Or even if you dont have bad teeth how long can you still keep it on? Please i want an answer! And my dentist said i have to turn it with the key for 14 days and then stop idk if after iam going to take it off or just stop turning it with the key?
After you stop turning, it usually stays in about 6 months, or else it goes right back to where you were before. You WILL get used to it though! Give it a week or so
I got used to mine in a day literly yesterday I got mine I am getting better at talking and I choose to eat not everything but strictly yogart smoothies weet box ice cream to lick ice cream and I am feeling a little bit better
My daughter has had hers in for about 3 weeks. She is now getting swelling on the roof of her mouth. She says it only hurts when she eats. I’m guessing maybe she got something stuck in the roof of her mouth now there is no room to get in between the expander and the roof of her mouth. Anyone else have any problems like this?
Either go see your orthodontist so they can clean it out, or something like a waterpick will help clean that tough area out. You are right, most likely food stuck and irritating her palate
I’m 19, is there a chance for it to work at my age without needing screws? Also my blood sugar is a bit high, 5,6 with 139 000 blood platelets I think, is it fine if they are going to extract teeth out? + I have a wisdom teeth that needs a procedure to open the gum and extract it
I js got mine yesterday and will my speech get better? I'm really insecure about how I sound I can't say stuff with the letter y or r and its hard to eat, sense I'm at school it's really hard atm
YES! it will get better in a few days! the more you talk the quicker it gets better! Go sing all day long or call a friend and talk forever to make it go faster!
this is kind of a big problem I basically was eating with my expander and braces and my inside of my mouth got stuck on my braces on my expander what do I do?!
Headaches are rare, if you're young it doesn't really hurt at all.. Eating will take a few days to get used to, but Everyone gets used to it! Don't worry!
I just got mine in today and I can’t eat. I ate apple sauce and that was okay but I tried to eat a spring role (I cut it into small pieces) and I can’t swallow it 😭😭 I almost choked. How have you been eating ?
I am 21 and I just get it today it's very hard to eat I just ate a soup I couldn't eat rice or chicken cause it's very hard and also it's hard to swallow my saliva and that's the hardest part..when it's came to talking It's hard to talking and I feel like I wanna throw up when I say some letters..i have to suffer for 2 months..
What age is too early to put a expander on? My son will be 6 in 3 months and his orthodontist is recommending to get the expander now. I feel my son is no mature enough to deal with all this😔. Just brushing his teeth alone is a struggle
It varies based on the reason and the development of the teeth. 6 May be fine, BUT I usually don't see a reason to rush into it, as it can be just as effective at 7 or 8 w/o. BUT I don't know the specifics on your son's case
My 8 year old son got this two days ago Since day one only his tongue is hurting by expander Doctor doesn't gave any wax to us So should I put wax in mouth or it will stop hurting by itself As it is inside the mouth at roof of maxilla where he will going to continuously solow his saliva not on the gum And our doctor told us to turn the screw once every three days
Some kids develop the habit of pushing their tongue against the expander and get and imprint of the screw on their tongue. It can tale longer for these patients to get used to it/become more comfortable, but the do. The wax probably won't help in this case. Give it a week or so and he should be better. The once every 3 days I can't speak for. Not sure why so slow, but best to ask why not the standard one (or even 2x) per day.
It’s also included I’m paying 5 grand for my braces and they charging my expander from there I don’t recall how much but they do include in there I think I get the expander off already this Friday been having it since the beginning of the year
@@kevintorres5209 so when you get yours taking off do you go right into braces from there? I go back to the dentist next month for him to decide if I can take it off
@@alwayshisgirlanderson8628 well I still haven’t gotten my expander out yet I just went in for. A wire change and elastic that you wear full time I got my braces in November and expander in January I was told I gotta keep this expander for a year
@@kevintorres5209 oh no I hope my dentist doesn’t say I have to keep this longer than a month, I really miss food. Thanks for responding. Everyone’s questions answers and feedback is definitely helpful
In cleft palate individual there is a little gap in the palate through which liquid moves to the nose sometimes, does using an expander increase the size of the gap.
It can. Cleft palate and/or cleft lip needs multiple treatments starting early in infancy and through sometimes teen years to have the best result. Usually best treated with a team including orthodontists, plastic surgeons, plastic surgeons, ENTs, etc
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i want to rip mine out 😭 i can’t eat and it’s giving me a lisp
Same
sameee I just got mine and I cant eat
I got mine a little while ago and 1. It hurts on the side and 2. I cant say “shhhh” without it feeling weird 😅
@@azrealxoxo Same and its only my right side that hurts too
Lol me too I just got mine. My tongue is sore
To everyone here suffering, it will get better! I got mine about 2 weeks ago and I thought it was hell. Honestly, just accept that it kinda sucks but realise it only gets better with time! Some of my recommendations (approved by my orthodontist) are Jello, smoothies, ice cream floats, and rice with soup! Wishing all luck with your expansion :D
Did you talk differently
@@snoewyy i got one and i dont talk that differently some sounds are hard to say like for me “ch” because my tounge presses up against it but other than that i don’t have a lisp like people say you would get
I got mine and they fell out 2 times in a 2 week time frame and I just got them put back on! Please I need recipes for my expanders!!! :)
@@tanu_ki_duniya_ Just so you know mine fell out 4 times and now I have a good one
How do u swallow with food though it’s so hard for me
I’ve had mine for almost 2 months now and it’s not that bad, the first 1-2 weeks I couldn’t eat and I hated it, also food ALWAYS got stuck up there and I panicked but now I can pretty much eat anything and my talking isn’t that bad, only a few vowels I can’t say like ‘eeh’ but other than that people don’t even notice it when I talk so it’s great! I also got a gap at the start but it closed itself.
Just got mine but how does eating get better after a couple weeks cause I actually hate eating with it so much right now
I just got mine today and I can’t eat and it’s difficult to swallow 🤧
@@frankmitchell5281 u get used to it and u eat like normal, and if food gets stuck u will find it easy to get out with ur toung
Do you have to brush your teeth after eating a snack (as cookies/ a sandwich...) at school?
How.. i can't even swallow my saliva
i just got mine today and my top teeth are sore since i had gotten my top wires and it’s abit hard to swallow and talk kinda sucks but reading the comments is quite abit of comfort knowing it’ll get better soon
js got mine tdy to!
Hello, I want to say my experience at the moment with a pallet expander.When you get it in DO NOT SWALLOW, the glue doesn’t taste good, after they might twist it once at the ortho place then they send you off. There is honestly no pain when you turn the key it kinda feels like a headache in your nose and teeth. The worst part is eating, EVERYTHING gets stuck up there. That is my overall experience with it so far because I’ve had it for a day now. P.S you have a nasty lisp that goes away after some time
I started gagging at my ortho appointment when I got mine 😂😂😂 it was so embarrassing but I’ve always had a bad gag reflex so when I went to rinse my mouth I could taste the glue. It was awful 😂
How long does it take for you to talk normally after getting that expander?
i just got these and im now having yogurt for dinner and struggling 😂😤
how long did it take for them to put it on?
@@bellarodriguez401 I'm sorry I can't really tell you because I have the removable ones which take like a second to put in so im not sure since there are many different types of expanders
I just got them and I’m eating chicken nuggets
im struggling to drink a freaking milkshake-
@@bellarodriguez401 mine’s ain’t removable and I get them took out in a month
This was so helpful! I wasn’t able to go to my son’s appointment when his expanded was placed so all these instructions make me feel so much more comfortable with caring for it. Thank you!
So happy this helped!!!
Hey y’all I got my expander like 2-4 weeks ago and the first week my mouth was sore 😮 now o can eat literally everything including sticky candy (not gum). Just to let you know food will most likely always get stuck up there but it’s easy to remove it. The first 2 weeks I used a toothpick to get food out but now I don’t really need that. That’s just an lil experience for people who is going to get it soon.
HOW DO U GET IT OUT ??? With ur tongue?
18h in my expander and God damn, what q hateful experience. The comments help a lot tough. Thank you 🙏
I’ve had mine for over a year at this point and quite frankly it’s getting to the point that I would rather have awful teeth than leave it in. It has caused me to choke on food on one occasion and the wire is constantly digging into my tongue. This thing sucks so bad that I would classify it as a torture device rather than a dental appliance.
I'd ask your doctor why its in this long. I never leave them this long
@@drdougortho I’m not precisely sure as to the reason they’ve been in this long but I’m guessing it’s related to a crossbow which he will be installing in order to correct my overbite.
@@thomasgregory3893 ah, that could be.
Omg, I just got an expander a week ago, at first I couldn’t drink I couldn’t even swallow my own spit! Ugh
how long does it take for them to put it on?
@@bellarodriguez401 not to long ! Maybe like 10 min they have to mold it into your teeth. Not painful what so ever, trust me I was really nervous to ! But all you’re gonna feel is pressure no pain.
@Natalie Hawks mines didn’t fit either, they had to adjust it, and keep cutting the expander. The first few days are gonna be tuff. But hang on
Can I ask? Can you talk after outting them on?
This was super helpful. My 7 year old is starting his ortho journey, and gets his in a few weeks.
So glad you found it useful!:)
My son is getting this too. How did it go with your child (I'm just worried it will be really stressful for a little kid).
I can swallow saliva, just not chew anything. Food keeps getting stuck in the expander 😠
right 😟 it suck eating
@@vaeh1954 Ong this shit making me mad
@Natalie Hawks this my second week and a half with it but the first 2 3 days chewing and swallowing is hard my first day I didn’t eat nothing
@@xboardin how is yours now?
@@vaeh1954 it’s good now I think I get braces when I go back
Thank you so much for this video. My kiddo got her expander 3 days ago. We didn’t get any tips on how to care for the expanders.
I just got mine and it’s actually not that bad, it is hard to talk and pronounce words it’s also hard to swallow but it doesn’t hurt at all. I haven’t tried eating with it yet since I’m scared that I’ll choke since I can’t even swallow water.
Swallowing will get better fast! Don't worry
@@drdougortho thank you
@@CrystalIXx24 did it get better?
@@mishmishmishmish2184 Yes it did. Within a week I was able to chew and swallow without a problem, talking wasn’t difficult and I got used to it. Soon enough it felt like it wasn’t even there!
I have to get one Wednesday!😤 I’m mad! Thank you for this thought.
Edit: I got it yesterday the people who made it messed it up!!! Now I have to turn it from the back to the front! It’s horrible! I can’t eat because I can’t swallow! So I’m starving! And they turned it five times yesterday (yes I counted) and my mouth felt like it was going to explode!!!!!! They had to turn it a lot of times to make sure it would work. But it was so bad!
My almost 9 year old got hers on Tuesday and we are at Day 3. 1st and 2nd day she had trouble talking. Her gums were hurting from irritation. Used the wax given in the kit to relieve her. Today it’s not her gums but the tongue is getting irritated by the expander. Her speech has improved with it in today. Trying to keep her busy and active. Going in next week to see if they can adjust any of the metals. She has a wiggly tooth next to the piece. Take care everyone.
Thank you for making this video, I'm on day 4 of trying to turn my sons key and I just found out that I have been doing it wrong.
Glad it helped!
Bro when you try to eat or drink it just gets stuck up there and it’s the most annoying thing
We didn't get NO KIT for this! 😬
Almost drowned in my own saliva when they were putting it in :/
I am literally drowning rn I can’t swallow tf
@@drawingfreak9936 lol
Fr like i got mine today and I’ve had to go to the bathroom and spit saliva out in the sink so many times
SAMEE
How did you stop it
THANK YOU 🙏 I HAD FOOD STUCK AND IT WAS SO ANNOYING!!
I had it for a couple weeks now and it’s kinda normal now trust me
so um when i got my expander two days ago i had the urge to bite down so i did and i think i might've pushed my bracket things closer to my gum so now my two back teeth are really sensitive when i eat. what do i do?
Call your orthodontist! I may need to be recemented
My turning tool looks like a teeny wrench and I was given a little rubber string to attach to it so when I turned my expander I could grab the wrench out in case I dropped it in my mouth. It also made turning so easy compared to the one in the video since there wasn’t a hole to stick into, it would just click in place and I’d turn it towards my throat
That's a different type expander called a "superscrew" ... you must need a lot of expansion:)
got it on like 40 minutes ago. I hate everything about it
Sorry. But it will get better in a few days!
how long did it take to get it put on?
@@Sara-vb8xn idk like 10-15 mins or less i cant remember
@@azioxx okayyyy tyty i get mine on tmrw do you get a lisp from it?
@@Sara-vb8xn yes you get a bad lisp got mine 2 days ago and I lisp pretty bad
This helped soooo much, thanks for the advice 😁
Awesome!
For me I’m having trouble eating without getting food stuck between the top of my mouth, any tips?
Unfortunately that is part of the deal! Just rinse after meals and use a proxy brush to clean out under it after meals if needed!
Me too . And my mouth hurts day 1 and a half. . Plus I lost my key
@@drdougortho how can I find a replacement key if it’s a holiday weekend? I’m freaking out
@@alwayshisgirlanderson8628 I think if you go to the ortho they can give you one
@@aguyonyoutube4sure but it’s the holiday and my dentist is closed . Wonder if I can go to any open today . Thanks for responding to me
Just got mine today and 4 things about it that I don’t like 1) My mouth rlly watery 2) my tooth hurt 3) Makes me talk weird 4) swallowing is difficult
They will ALL go away! Everyone feels these things in the beginning!
Is it better now ?
@@Strayiscanceled yes had it in for 3 months the last few days I had it in , it started cutting my tounge 😕 , when I sneeze it hurted cause my tounge press against the expander . I don’t recommend the expander , the expander does work as long as u turn it how ur pose to
What can I do if small food gets stuck under my bottom expander? I’ve tried flossing and rinsing but nothing works
I dont 'know if you orthodontist gave you one, but we give our patients "proxy brushes" (looks like a tiny pipe-cleaner with a handle), to get out food that brushing/rinsing doesn't get... you can get them in the pharmacy/drug store!
I got top and bottom and oh boy just wow wow it hurts but you will get used to it but when you first get it try to eat like apple sauce or something soft and be prepared with pain killer and ibuprofen! Good luck 🍀
wait i have to keep it on for 6 months after done turning?😭
That's they typical protocol!
I have to keep it for a year
@@comedypranksters6481 bless your soul
When I got mine it was odd at first but after a week or so you get used to it… I never used any of the wax or any of the little extras… eventually it was all worthed when I got it out and eventually got the braces out
That's great to hear. That seems to be the typical experience!
Just got it today, and i thought I did something wrong when I tried eating the school rice lol. Eating so far and drinking is so annoying, food everywhere lol.
It will get better soon!
Can you talk while having them?
I'm in day 3 and food keeps getting stuck between the roof of my mouth and the expander top, what do I do? I've even tried drinking lots of water after each bite but it's still stuck. (Thank you so much for answering all of the comments(
The designs of expanders vary, and how close to the roof if your mouth will vary as well... some will be more prone to getting food stuck than others. You will get used to it and get better at getting it out. Make sure to brush ON the expander after meals and a waterpik is helpful to keep it clean as well.
Did it got easier ?
Mine was glued on for some reason
Hi I’ll be getting this in a few weeks. I’m autistic and struggle very much with sensory issues. Will this be especially hard for me and how can I make it easier??
We've treated many kids with sensory issues, and while the first week or so may be tough, you should get used to it! You just have to go through it. But talking as much as possible early on helps you to adjust faster. So drive your parents crazy and talk and sing a lot the first few days!
Good advice thanks😊
how long do they have to be in after 12 days of turning?
Any tips on eating aside from getting used to it??
Sorry... Just keep eating... It just happens!
Got it 👍👍
If anyone’s having a trouble I have a bit of a tip and it’s to eat on one side
Do you have patients that got it on and just couldn’t do it so they got it off? Does every orthodontist have the option for removable ones for kids who can’t stop choking?
I've NEVER had a patient in my 18 year career, that didn't eventually get used to in in every way! Some take a day or 2, a few will take a week or so, but every kid has adapted and done great! Removable ones just don't give you true expansion of the palate, despite what some may say.
Question, I've had my quad expander for about 2 months now and I wake up every day with an imprint from the expander causing my tongue to be in tremendous amount of pain, yesterday I woke up with a bloody tongue. Do you recommend anything I can wear through the night for my quad expander, for it to stop pressing against the expander through out the night? I've tried rpe tongue guards but they wouldn't stay on and they would rip. Just ordered some orthodots (wax) to try and put on the expander for overnight use.
This happens to people who push their tongue up against their palate. just keep your tongue clean so it won't get infected,and yes,the wax is a good idea!
Omg thank you this will really help me
My pleasure!
Hi im writing from Turkey. This is the best explaination i have come across. If we dont turn it properly do we have to see the dr each time. Or can we fix it ourselves.
Depends what you mean. I can't be sure, but you shouldn't have to see your dr every day to turn it, it should be done yourself unless you "lose" the hole/cant find it because it gets stuck.
@@drdougortho thank you!
I just got mine 3 days ago, and i got the very uncomfortable ones where they have those brackets on the sides closet to the cheek and i was wondering how i could stop it from making my cheek from bleeding. I got wax to stick on the brackets but sometimes it doesn't work and doesnt stay for that long.
But my main question ; is there anyway to stop it from hurting my cheek while eating for the first 3 weeks
the wax will stay on BETTER if you can somehow dry the area of metal before putting it on. i know it shard, but usually a papertowel around your finger to dry it a little while pulling your cheek out, then stick the wax on. I know its annoying, but eventually you will get used to the tubes that stick out.
@@drdougortho ok thanks!!!
what can i do if my key got lost
we happily give a replacement if this happens to our patients. Ask your orthodontist!
Mine is staying on for two months but I’m so scared to eat
don't worry... just takes a few days to get used to it!
i wish i had that, now it like i cant even eat anymore. the jaw expander then looked actually good and you could chew/eat and stuff but now i got mine and they totally changed the style and now i cant eat
Sorry to hear that. This type is called a HYRAX (the HY stands for "hygienic" bc it's easier to keep clean than other types.
If you want slower expansion, could you do half turns instead of full turns.
There device is called a "rapid palate expander".. usually no benefit to doing is slower... And may not work as well either
i got mine almost 9 days ago and i hate it. i’m feeling nauseous every day after eating. going to school with that thing in your mouth it’s really hard.
i can’t wait to get it off and eat whatever i want. it’s hard ik but it’s the only way to fix my smile so…
Don't worry, many patients feel like this, but they always get better!
@@drdougortho i hope so, thank u!!
why key getting stuck
Not sure, different docs use different keys/screws. Sorry!
I got mine today
Congrats! First few days can be rough... But it always get better!!
my dentist told meto do it 2 times a day and i got to keep it 12 days
thats ok... sometimes we do twice a day too
At tips on how to stop the salvia
How to use expander
Why is that sometimes the RPE screw doesn’t always sit at the roof and sometimes it’s kind of just floating?
depends on the shape of your palate. sometimes its so narrow that we can't make them as close to the roof of the mouth as others.
@@drdougortho I see. Thanks for responding. I’m wondering what’s better for the expansion and pressure? Like does it help to have it at the top bent like that or is it preferred for the arc of the expander to be more wide an thus floating?
I just got my expander today and I cannot swallow ANYTHING!!! Not even my own saliva. It doesn’t hurt but it feel weird
SAME OMG
Do I have to brush my teeth after eating a snack at school (sometimes cookies/a sandwich...)?
Ideally yes, author school, just brush when you get home!
I found one easy way to clean the food stuck between expnander.... A paint brush😅
Wait actually that actually work
@@marianalover69 yes I olso do this only... Tried it once and now loving it
@@yame31 i use a straw lol
@@marianalover69 straw may hit ur palate and will make it bleed.. be careful with it
@@haripriya9360 I have been doing it for 4 weeks nothing happened lol
I just got mine and my tounge feels sore, and I can’t swallow my spit!!
That will go away later today! Don't worry:)
I just got my expander and braces today, i am struggling alot with talking and for the love of god i cant eat.
It ALWAYS gets better..... even when it feels like it won't... trust me:) Give it a few days
How bad does it hurt when you turn the key? I’m getting these soon and I am nervous
It doesn't hurt at all... Just tight which goes away in a few minutes.
@@drdougortho oh okay! Thank you!
@@Jordan-ur2kz did you get them?
May I ask how long this treatment gonna be? Is it 3-4 years? After expanding process, it has to be the phase II ( braces) or it can be an option? My boy is 10 years who is looking for the orthodontist. Please give advice!!!!
Most treatment is 18-24 months, but it obviously varies for every patient. The only way to know all the options for anyone is to be seen by the Orthodox will be treated by.
@@drdougortho thank you for the quick response. I have 2 orthodontist: one said it takes 18 months & will have braces in 2 years. One said it takes 3-4 years, no need braces after b/c it depends on how permanent teeth growth and the way they growth. Can you please advise how to choose the right orthodontist?
@@liennim637 unfortunately there is no way for me to tell which plan is appropriate unless I examine a patient. Talk to other people in your area who have been treated by different orthodontists, and ask your dentist if THEY or THEIR FAMILY needed treatment, where would they go?
I’m getting mine today
Good luck!
My teeth is really sore. My Ortho placed rubber separators and since then my teeth have been really sore. Any tips for that
Or take 2 to 3 days for that soreness to go away... But it always does!!
I got mine today and help i cant speak, i can't even shallow my salaiva😭
Very common to feel that way the first day! You can and will swallow, it just feels weird. And the speaking will improve in a few days the more you keep talking! Don't worry!
@@drdougortho its nearly one month and I can eat faster and my speech is much better! Thankyou doc
@@angelmaharjan9847 excellent!
@@drdougortho hiii doc! So my expansion is done and i got my braces yesterday....so for how long do i need to keep expander???
Usually it's 6 months from when you stop turning.
I have this thing
bruh i cant even swallow my own salvia and i cant enjoy food anymore everything gets stuck up there and it takes like 10mins to clean and get the food out i wont be eating again until i get it off… my skinny era
Almost everyone feels this way the first week or so... scroll through the comments to see how people say it DOES get better!
@@drdougortho okay thank you doc, one question, the expander is rlly irritating the back of my tongue especially when i talk and i got a sore spot… is that normal?? and what can i do to stop it from hurting my tongue?
@@yuuvien you put wax in the screw area of the expander... u just have to brush it out when parents need to turn it. this will go away usually after a week or so, your tongue will get used to it.
It’s so hard to eat with these on. Every meal I nearly choke 💀
Don't worry!! It always gets better in a few days, you'll see!
“I can’t eat mom”
It WILL get better in a few days!
oh ok
Does it hurt when you put it in?
It shouldn't!!
@@drdougortho thanks a lot for the answer as I am quite worried for when o get them sometime soon
@@drdougortho just got mine yesterday and I can already eat normally! Nowhere near as bad as I though/expected
@@anton5469 awesome! glad to hear that!
dr which brand water pick do u recommend?
also do the floss , water-pick , last brush teeth ?
my daughters has 6 cavity’s ….. i wasn’t aware of her needing to use the special tooth paste at night , and not to rinse her mouth…
i feel awful . so i appreciate all the tips ..
my younger kid need a expander , so that will be 3 kids in braces
Ok the order is floss (or waterpik) then brush for 2 min. Then fluoride rinse for 60 seconds. I don't have a preference of waterpik. But the 2 best electric tooth brushes in my opinion are the oral B or sonicare
You have to use different tooth paste at night ???
I got them today but I didn’t get them tightened yet
I got my expander 7 months ago and my braces 4 months ago they still haven’t took the expander out
Well often you have to turn it for a month or longer... Then it's usually 6 months AFTER the turning is complete before it's removed. But ask your sister 8 when it will be removed.
Day 3 with the Palatal Expender I hate this! FOR me i cry everyday because i cant eat nothing, i only eat one meal and its soup everytime i tired to eat something else it will get stuck up there! I just want to get it off, but iam not sure how long iam going to keep i hope not a long time. If you have really bad teeth how long do you keep it on? Or even if you dont have bad teeth how long can you still keep it on? Please i want an answer! And my dentist said i have to turn it with the key for 14 days and then stop idk if after iam going to take it off or just stop turning it with the key?
After you stop turning, it usually stays in about 6 months, or else it goes right back to where you were before. You WILL get used to it though! Give it a week or so
i have the first one
i’m getting a plalte explander tomorrow i’m legit scared hopefully it fits
In 15 years, I never saw a patient not get used to it! Don't worry!
What to do if at the top of my mouth Is pushing against the part that goes on side of my mouth
I got used to mine in a day literly yesterday I got mine I am getting better at talking and I choose to eat not everything but strictly yogart smoothies weet box ice cream to lick ice cream and I am feeling a little bit better
My daughter has had hers in for about 3 weeks. She is now getting swelling on the roof of her mouth. She says it only hurts when she eats. I’m guessing maybe she got something stuck in the roof of her mouth now there is no room to get in between the expander and the roof of her mouth. Anyone else have any problems like this?
Either go see your orthodontist so they can clean it out, or something like a waterpick will help clean that tough area out. You are right, most likely food stuck and irritating her palate
I’m 19, is there a chance for it to work at my age without needing screws?
Also my blood sugar is a bit high, 5,6 with 139 000 blood platelets I think, is it fine if they are going to extract teeth out? + I have a wisdom teeth that needs a procedure to open the gum and extract it
I get my expander Dec 7th
Youb will do great, don't worry
@@drdougortho thank you
Hey I got a expander and as I eat my teeth hit the Metal pieces towards my front teeth is that normal will it go away?
I js got mine yesterday and will my speech get better? I'm really insecure about how I sound I can't say stuff with the letter y or r and its hard to eat, sense I'm at school it's really hard atm
YES! it will get better in a few days! the more you talk the quicker it gets better! Go sing all day long or call a friend and talk forever to make it go faster!
this is kind of a big problem I basically was eating with my expander and braces and my inside of my mouth got stuck on my braces on my expander what do I do?!
I now have a soccer game to now by the time I come back I hope for an answer please🙏🙏🙏
HELP MEEEEEEE please
Call your orthodontist! You don't want to cut/hurt yourself worse by trying to rip it free yourself!
I’m getting mine in around a month, will it hurt? Will it sting? Will it cause headaches? Can I eat, I heard the metal can scratch your tongue.
Headaches are rare, if you're young it doesn't really hurt at all.. Eating will take a few days to get used to, but Everyone gets used to it! Don't worry!
@@drdougortho thanks I don’t wanna say my age but I’m below 16. How long will I not be able to swollow or drink for?
@@gamelegends8877 usually a few days and you can eat and speak fine!
@@drdougortho okay, I hope I dont starve
Last few questions, how can your prevent drooling and the metal scratching your tongue bcus I heard those happen a lot
I have marks on my tongue because of the expander any way to remove these marks?
they will go away when you get it removed, don't worry!
What happens if if falls off while turning it
Call your orthodontist right away to have it recemented! Do not try to turn it anymore for now
My brother does not want to eat or drink anything cause of it and says he wants it off tomorrow
Extremely common! Don't worry it will get better in a few days!
I got mine in and I’m so scared it’s going to rip my jaw🥲 that’s probably not gonna happen but the thought lol
I just got mine in today and I can’t eat. I ate apple sauce and that was okay but I tried to eat a spring role (I cut it into small pieces) and I can’t swallow it 😭😭 I almost choked. How have you been eating ?
It's kinda like when you get spacers it's SO hard to bite down on things
I am 21 and I just get it today it's very hard to eat I just ate a soup I couldn't eat rice or chicken cause it's very hard and also it's hard to swallow my saliva and that's the hardest part..when it's came to talking It's hard to talking and I feel like I wanna throw up when I say some letters..i have to suffer for 2 months..
I have to suffer for 6
@@desflix how old are you?
@@user-wz6gh1vh8f about to turn 15
@@desflix bruh im 16 food keeps getting stuck in the roof of my mouth I just dont want to exist for the next 6 months
since you’re 21, how big did your gap get?
What age is too early to put a expander on? My son will be 6 in 3 months and his orthodontist is recommending to get the expander now. I feel my son is no mature enough to deal with all this😔. Just brushing his teeth alone is a struggle
It varies based on the reason and the development of the teeth. 6 May be fine, BUT I usually don't see a reason to rush into it, as it can be just as effective at 7 or 8 w/o. BUT I don't know the specifics on your son's case
U can put temporary expander which is removable and it won't be painful u can remove it when u have food...
My 8 year old son got this two days ago
Since day one only his tongue is hurting by expander
Doctor doesn't gave any wax to us
So should I put wax in mouth or it will stop hurting by itself
As it is inside the mouth at roof of maxilla where he will going to continuously solow his saliva not on the gum
And our doctor told us to turn the screw once every three days
Some kids develop the habit of pushing their tongue against the expander and get and imprint of the screw on their tongue. It can tale longer for these patients to get used to it/become more comfortable, but the do. The wax probably won't help in this case. Give it a week or so and he should be better. The once every 3 days I can't speak for. Not sure why so slow, but best to ask why not the standard one (or even 2x) per day.
I’m getting one tomorrow
Just got emm but everything gets stuck on top
You'll get used to it! Don't worry!
Is the expander appliance normally included on dental brace or separate fee? Thanks
It’s also included I’m paying 5 grand for my braces and they charging my expander from there I don’t recall how much but they do include in there I think I get the expander off already this Friday been having it since the beginning of the year
@@kevintorres5209 so when you get yours taking off do you go right into braces from there? I go back to the dentist next month for him to decide if I can take it off
@@alwayshisgirlanderson8628 well I still haven’t gotten my expander out yet I just went in for. A wire change and elastic that you wear full time I got my braces in November and expander in January I was told I gotta keep this expander for a year
@@kevintorres5209 good to know. Thanks I’m ready for this to come out now lol
@@kevintorres5209 oh no I hope my dentist doesn’t say I have to keep this longer than a month, I really miss food. Thanks for responding. Everyone’s questions answers and feedback is definitely helpful
I’m getting mine in 7 days do they affect how you talk? cause I have school and I’m gonna have to talk
Yes, expect a lisp for a week or so
@@drdougortho oh ok thanks!
BROOOOO. It feels so weird I have to violently shake my head to get food out..that stick thingy didn't helpppppp
You'll get used to it! Everyone does!
Well at my orth I have do it twice for 2 weeks. But fr I was gonna choke on my own saliva
I’m getting mine out tomorrow!!
Congrats!!
In cleft palate individual there is a little gap in the palate through which liquid moves to the nose sometimes, does using an expander increase the size of the gap.
It can. Cleft palate and/or cleft lip needs multiple treatments starting early in infancy and through sometimes teen years to have the best result. Usually best treated with a team including orthodontists, plastic surgeons, plastic surgeons, ENTs, etc