The ENTIRE Story of the Albinaurics | Elden Ring Lore
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What are the Albinaurics? Why do they look like that? And what on earth is a birthing droplet??
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00:00 Intro
00:30 Finding Latenna
01:18 The Medallion
08:19 Lobo
10:22 Legs
12:44 Spirit Ash
15:23 Castle Sol
20:28 Torture
27:13 Ordina
29:30 Evergaol
34:52 Phillia
35:43 Birthing Droplet
41:09 The Second Generation
47:50 Loretta
51:09 Haligtree Cocoons
53:54 Outro
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Your voice is so pretty
Get that bag queen! You deserve it
Cosplay was really nice on you
Just realized Latenna and Shadowheart share a voice actress. Kinda funny, considering their radically different feelings on wolves.
holy shit for real?!
Whoooaaa
Nice catch
ranni is also played by a character from peaky blinders
I was just thinking they sounded similar
I think everyone is missing the inherent insult in calling Gideon the “all-hearing”. He claims to be all-knowing but since he never leaves the Roundtable Hold, he’s not all-seeing since he never sees anything himself. All his knowledge comes from secondhand information from Tarnished. Thus he’s simply the all-hearing. He hears the stories of others and then pretends to know everything.
Well he glimpsed into marikas soul (same japanese kanji for will), and was knighted by her, hence his sir name. In other words, despite his knowledge coming from tarnished and his on purpose age/death and rebirth, and the fingers, she also told him in some way about her endgame of a tarnished destroying the order and merking gods left and right.
I thought the scarabs we kill along the way were his spies? That might have just been a theory passed around but it made sense to me so I subscribe to it.
Basically vaati, he is just an all hearing
As a Fia simp, I feel bad for the Albinaurics more than those who live in death. It’s probably because there are friendly albinauric NPCs. It’s unfortunate that there is no friendly spooky skeletons and no friendly omens.
I bet the Tibia Mariners are really chill one you get to know them.
5:54
"Why does everyone keep stabbing me in the back?!"
"because it's easy and it does a lot of damage"
Love that video.
Happy Reference!
was clearly being stabbed in the stomach though
@@jeanclaudevanslamme 🤓
Fromsoft snuck a "do synths have souls and does it matter" concept, nominally a sci-fi idea, into a fantasy game. You have to respect it
As someone who has worn a Chainmail Coif once I'm sorry for the amount of hair that you had to detangle from it.
Its a wig so at least it won't hurt!
I really wish completing Latenna's quest upgraded her summon to also include her wolf to ride. Since people discovered that Latenna is already programmed to mount a wolf if one is nearby, it would be easy to just add a friendly dire wolf to also spawn in when you summon her. Come on Fromsoft Latenna and Lobo deserve to be reunited!
Great idea, although she'd be pretty damn OP that way 😅
Right? You have to get all the way to basically the end of the game for her quest, so why not be rewarded with an (arguably) OP summon.
That is a really nice idea! Maybe you could somehow combine the Lone Wolf ashes that you get early on, with Latenna's ashes. Like you said, they already have the combat AI. Man that would be a powerful spirit
"It would be easy" make your own game.
The Elden Ring Reforged Mod for the game does this! It feels wonderful to complete her quest, and then be rewarded with the Latenna and Lobo spirit ash.
*_"Find the Albinauric women."_*
-Sir Gideon Offnir, The all spamming
My man wants that giantussy.
You could have at least bothered to write "Albinauric" right. Like come *on*, it's in the damned video title.
Still, funny. Take your like, sir.
golden retaliation
golden retaliation
golden retaliation
"a tarnished can not become a lord..."
Unfairly overpowered, Black Knife Letitia and Rock Sling. Zero regrets about it
@@user-rg4bo4mi9c does golen retaliation work against triple holy disks ?
You sound exactly like someone who would be a voice actor for one of the characters. Makes the lore feel all the more authentic. By the way love the cosplay too!
My own personal theory I've been spreading around is that the first generation were created by the Carians (Descendants of the Nox peoples who were closely connected with the silver tears - which themselves are seemingly perfect copies of what they mimic). The second gen were labourers produced by the Mages of Raya Lucaria. Finally, the Albanaurics found at the Volcano manor were captured and experimented on, the product of this was the creation of the aggressive Abductor Vigrins (take a close look at the liquid silver snakes that grab you from inside and the silver ball they roll around on).
You speculating about an evergaol being some sort of “spectral blanket” makes the shroud over the erdtree even more interesting to speculate about
I think that this might be the first ER lore video that I've seen in a long while that explores the Albinauric species/ culture *exclusively*.
Also it's cool to see more of your cosplay! My friends always compliment how well-done they look!
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I'd like to recommend Soughtown's video on albinaurics then. He has some good lore points aswell.
omg i never noticed that detail about the transparent legs in the albinauric village! i'm always amazed at the level of detail miyazaki puts in his games and even really subtle ones like that that are easy to miss but once you *do* notice them it blows your mind and raises a lot of questions about why that detail is in the game.
I like to think that Loretta had lot of sympathy toward Albinaurics, because Carian family was more open minded for different beings. Their ancestors lived in peace with giants. Carians had trolls and dragons allied with them. Trolls served as knights and advisers. If Loretta was an albinaric then maybe she was allowed to be a knight just like trolls? They are not Erdtree zealots who hates what is not from the tree etc. In case of Academy i guess different groups of sorcerers might have different views on Albinaurics. Just like they have different views on forms of magic.
Btw, fact that 1 gen Albinaurics can't walk reminds me of Rennala's artificial children. They don't have legs.
And the artificial children Renalla is surrounded by all sing beautifully - which is an interesting contrast to the mute amphibians.
Great video as usual, Latenna is definitely one of my favorite NPC’s. Side note though, I believe The All-hearing brute that she talks about is actually Ensha of the Royal Remains, who also slaughtered the village under Gideon’s command. A cool theory I read once was that Ensha is actually Gideon’s puppet, since it has been stated through the description of “Dolores the Sleeping Arrow Puppet” that Seluvis and Gideon were once friends. Just a cool theory I thought I’d share.
Plus, he seems like the kind of creep to have a puppet, IMO. He has a bunch of cronies, why wouldn’t he have a puppet or two?
I do agree that nickname could also apply to Ensha. The All-Knowing and The All-Hearing; what a dynamic duo! Ensha being a puppet is also totally plausible, especially since I believe one of the main traits of puppets is that they can't speak. And Ensha never says anything. Nice point!
They *would* be friends
Wow I never encountered Latenna, what an amazing questline. The albinurics were always a very intriguing and tragic race. But they connect so many more dots than I wouldve ever thought in my first few playthroughs. Also interesting how Nepheli is interested as well as Loretta, in being kind to the Albinurics and helping them find a home.
I always complete Latenna’s quest on all my play throughs. Not because I want the somber ancient dragon smithing stone but because it’s one of those rare quest in Elden ring that ends on a positive note. Also, because I find her voice hauntingly beautiful.
The Red Alburnurics also have what appears to be omen Horns growing out the top of their heads.
It seems they've pledged themselves to Mohg at some point.
Probably through a similar manner to Okina's Sword: Rivers of blood. Or us, and other tarnished, that pledged themselves to Mohg
Yeah there’s a portal in the snowfields somewhere near some frog like ones that is covered in blood. It takes you to his palace.
I have chronic insomnia and your voice has helped me get through hellish sleepless nights. Thank you, Miss Chalice. I hope you continue telling us these stories for years to come and I hope you continue to get more traction.
Idk why but hearing a calm and soothing voice saying "gives you time to square up" is both adorable and hilarious at the same time
That was so weird to hear Latenna after playing Baldurs Gate, I never actually found her in game and never heard her dialogue, only ever seen her talked about in lore videos and something about her voice immediately pinged something in my brain. Its Shart, our beloved :)
Your videos are special. Cosplaying, dying your hair, your research, the way they're laid out logically and your beautifully calm voice all make for something as transcending as Elden Ring deserves.
I think it’s a wig I hope she didn’t dye her hair for this
Wigs don't exist lol
Your cosplay is absolutely beautiful! I remember on my first playthorugh I saw Latenna. I almost attacked her, but thankfully I didn't. Excellent video as always Miss Chalice!
But why didn’t the Albinaurics just whistle for Torrent to help them make the journey? 🤔🧐
The Albinaurics always creeped me out. They had this sinister cuteness to them that just made so uneasy
Yeah, they’re like dolls that weren’t sold by manufacturers because of a minor mishap with the clay recipe, making the porcelain puddle and create long and thin limbs, instead of sturdy and wide ones.
Same, that's why I kill them
As the DLC potentially approaches, one thing that hasn’t sat well with me are those Albinaurics in Castle Sol. Miquella is supposedly a champion to the outcasts, such as the Misbegotten and the Albinaurics, and yet there are imprisoned and tortured Albinaurics in Castle Sol. Unless the Castle occupants did this under Miquella’s nose, it hardly seems Miquella has the “outlasts” best interests in mind. Given that Miquella has received a lot of parallels to Griffith from Berserk and that both of them have a seemingly unnatural ability to compel loyalty, it wouldn’t surprise me if Miquella targeted these “outlasts” as sacrifices to be used for certain rituals (i.e. bringing about the Eclipse in Castle Sol).
I know there’s probably not much hard evidence to support what I’m saying, but I used to believe that Miquella was a truly benevolent character in Elden Ring until I examined Castle Sol more throughly, and I started to question Miquella’s intentions. Looks like I was under his spell lol. Hopefully we get some answers with the DLC.
You’ve got a good point, I haven’t thought about it like that!! I hope we get a DLC soon
Congratulations on 100K Chalice! The channel has come A LONG way since I first started watching. A well deserved 100k!
Here's to many, many times more!
Cosplaying in most of your videos is artistically badass. You have my respect.
I adore Latenna so I've been hoping you'd do a vid on her. I really wish there could've been a part of her quest where you reunite her spirit with Lobo's.
It would have been awesome if Lobo actually faded away when you did that. No words. No music shift. No indication of anything... Maybe possibly the spirit summon particle effect, but that is it. Would have been a fantastic touch for a game full of fantastic touches.
Your videos have skyrocketed to my favorite Elden ring lore videos, and lore format overall tbh. I can’t begin to express how much I respect and love your attention to detail!!
Not just from your script, cosplay and delivery of narration, but little elements like putting a filter for when you did the spirit in castle sol and so many other things that while not necessary per se you always go out of your way to incorporate into your video.
Just know all your hard work is appreciated by many of us!
Also, how do you manage to structure your script in such a way that remains so cohesive and easy to follow and enjoy?
Fantastic video! Great to see these unfortunate souls getting such deep coverage on their lore. And the chain mail looks absolutely badass on you. I'm on my fourth run, at this point just using ER and Sekiro as wallpaper farms because their environments are both so gorgeous. But every time I make my way to the Haligtree and clear it out since Journey 2, I always feel like I'm committing a war crime. I feel especially bad for having to fight Loretta over and over, knowing what she had go through to even get to the Haligtree, assuming her and the Tarnished take the same path, on top of learning of her goals and her sympathy for the albinaurics from her gear set descriptions.
Chalice, I have a question. What about the White Bubble boys? Do you think they might be related to Albinaurics too?
Yes! I am inclined to agree that there is some connection !
1. They have similar body shape - long arms, small heads.
2. They bleed silver/white.
3. They don't (or can't) use their legs, spinning around on their rounded cloth base.
4. The wrapped cloth balls kind of look like cocoons, so they could be the transformed version of the Albinaurics after their hibernation.
Just some of my quick thoughts! They are also mysterious beings, so thanks for your question!
@@miss_chalice Teeny little idea to build off that: Albinaurics are a servant (e.g slave) race, so them having a variety of forms artificially made for different roles would make sense. The envoys (which I believe are what the white robed creatures in Leyndell are called) could be a more. . .priestly caste perhaps? A servant to usher in the Greater Will's beliefs upon the resplendent once-noble-filled capital.
@miss_chalice to expand on this, they mention that there can be whimpering heard from inside the envoys head wrap, kind of parallel to the screaming of the black dumpling.
Could the musical instruments be a means of expressing themselves through sound when they otherwise can’t? (Second gen being mute)
That assassin lady doesn't have to be inivisible. There's a merchant who sells a special torch that allows you to see her. Makes that entire area a whole hell of a lot easier.
Honestly that torch and the beast-repellent torch come in so clutch
you are one of the only youtubers I can watch that makes an hour feel like 20 minutes. It's been almost 2 years since I saw your first video and the attention to detail, quality of storytelling, and cosplays are consistently amazing and immersive. thank you for the content!!
1st) Wow, ER has such a deep lore, wonderful world building.
2nd) Thank you for breaking this all down and explaining it all to us (also in costume!).
What a delightful Lore Play! The costuming is flawless, as always, and the lore is relaxing and fascinating to hear and see you present. Thanks!
Your voice is so asmr-y. Very relaxing and also I love elden ring and I've always been confused about the end of this quest with the giant lady. So this is like gold for me, checks 3 boxes, asmr, elden ring, and discussing the latenna questline. Just found the channel already like what I'm seeing. I love the costume, very cool.
I just recently finished the game after about 90 hours and did every quest during my playthrough. I have to say that it was such a delight to stumble upon your channel with all these in depth videos. It feels like the story is reopening once again when i watch your videos. I now watch/listen to your videos before going to bed. Really appreciate them.
Great video. I cannot believe I noticed so little and know so much about a game I played for 16 months:)) You are adding so much more value to this game for me; it's so much deeper and complex than I ever imagined. I spent much of it baffled about what it all meant:))
Just finished latennas questline and wow. Watching this to help process the info better meant i was able to connect dots I wasn't able to do without key info and made me gasp a couple time. Legit amazing vid love the cosplay ✨
you just autoplayed while I was gaming so I can't take any credit for discovering you. That being said you have one of the softest, calming, beautiful voices I've heard in a while and the lore is spot on keep it up loved the listen.
I find it sweet, Latenna talks to us in spirit more than, Ranni or Melina.
I’m calling it; I’m gonna fall asleep while watching this and miss my classes.
I'm pretty sure I could listen to you reading the ingredients off a box of mac and cheese and find it the most interesting set of ingredients ever. You have such natural story teller talent. I love it!
Great video and costume! I think both generations of Albinaurics were made by Masters Azur and Lusat, and that this is what got them exiled from Raya Lucaria. There is an almost perfect thematic link between the primordial dew and the primeval current, as both are the life essence of the starlight, possibly both dealing with liquid as well. So their first and second generation status could be seen more as a first and second experiment by mad sorcerers who had somehow glimpsed and the primeval current without immediately turning into a graven mass.
I also think that Sanguine Nobles warped a lot of Albinaurics to Moghwyn Dynasty Mausoleum, probably from the Rose Church. They likely lured them with the promises of purpose and love, just like we see with Varre. "Known to strike from pools of blood, these assassins are *missionaries come to share the gospel of accursed blood.*" And so the Albinaurics probably need to be injected with accursed blood as part of their inauguration.
Loved the cosplay, it must have been a nightmare farming Ordina for that armor! Your camera work with the in game footage was excellent, I know its not easy trying to get the right shots for these things! For your section on the albinauric legs, there is another very important character you may have missed: Rennala and her sweetlings. It seems that rebirth via the Great Rune of the Unborn and Larval tears may have initiated an "Albinaurification" on her and her juveniles. Neither of them walk or stand on their feet, only the illusion of Rennala made by Ranni stands and fights properly. I wonder what the implications of this are?
Could be that trying to play god, whether it be through creating artificial life like the Albinaurics, or through rebirth like the sweetlings, is always doomed to fail. That is, of course, unless you make use of the Rune of the Unborn like your character does.
great job. wonderful storytelling and I had something in my eye there at the end
great stuff, really enjoy these while exploring the game
Another great video ! Keep up the wonderful work, your videos are so well thought out and keeps me raptured by the lore. And your soft voice is like a lullaby. Makes me want to curl up under a blanket and listen as i let my imagination go wild. 😊
Love these videos! Glad to see an upload from you, it’s an automatic click, the lore is so sweet!
Great to see you again Ms. Chalice. I hope you had a nice holiday!
Happy New Year Miss Chalice!
Appreciate every one of your videos. Congrats on 100 K subscribers!
Love your videos and storytelling! One thing I noticed you neglected to mention regarding the red albinaurics: not only are they stained red, but they also have what appear to be omen horns growing from their heads
You and Latenna both have the nicest vocies! She's one of the best and most helpful NPCs for sure. Great video as always MissC
So awesome to see just how much lore is in this game.
Also just awesome to see how much time and effort you put into your videos!
I would really love to see more details on Melina as she is just the biggest "?" for me.
Thank you for the video ❤ Latenna was my ashes for most of my play through and I was always curious about her and her people. You didn’t disappoint.
Man Chalice videos leave me so satisfied when i get to the end, like I've just been on a long adventure and come back the hero 😂
Thanks for being the best! Have a nice weekend.
I only just stumbled across your channel recently. You make very detailed and educational videos! You also have a very soothing voice. I have learned a lot about elden ring today thank you.
Your effort towards cosplay is outstanding! Great job as always.
Ah I've finally found my favorite Elden Ring Lore channel. I see a lot of them and many of them are amazing, but you really know how to tell a story. I love your voice as well, you'd actually suit doing voice work for Fromsoft games. Very relaxing and soothing English accent. A nice juxtaposition that some characters have in comparison to the harsh environment of the games.
Thanks for this. I find it hard to piece tobegher the story of these games even when it's right in your face. This really helps to break it down.
That was the most wonderful Elden Ring lore video I've seen so far. I'm gonna have a good time watching all your videos now.
Her vids are great! I am just getting back into Elden Ring and wow I'm so happy I found this channel.
Always looking forward to your videos and what you have in store for us next. Keep it up!
Love this video!
Would love to hear your take on the Gloam Eyed Queen in the future 💜
Thank you! I listen to your videos to fall asleep, your voice is so lulling. Keep it up Miss Chalice. You are awesome!
Chalice is really stepping it up with each video, these are great
I just recently discovered ur channel and went on a binge watch! Excited to see a new one come online thx thx :D
I really loved this video. Your hard work and efforts truly show, thank you again 🖤 you bring elden ring to life in more ways than one!
I'm looking forward to the video but I have to comment right away because holy shit that cosplay is so cool!!!! The detailing on the armor part is so nice. Really appreciate the effort you go through for these 🙏
Edit: I always thought Castle Sol and the connection between Miquella and Godwyn. I hope they explore it more in the DLC
I am gratefull that I found this channel, I ever rarly comment on anything on social media, but you have a great talent of narrating and your calm voice and dedication for the theme plus the lore explainaing was just perfect.
your channel deserves more recognetion than this. Thanks for real.
I love these lore videos. Very fascinating. I cant wait to see what lore you dive into with the release of the DLC.
Every upload from you it's like a gift! Amazing as always
Another great one Chalice, thank you for your awesome videos! Cosplay was outstanding yet again!
Amazing analysis and storytelling! Also really like the cosplay and the miniature erdtree on your setup 😅
I love falling asleep to these videos thank you for all the great content
Always a good day when the chalice is here
You keep choking me up with these videos! 😭well done as always! 🎉
I have insomnia and your videos are a blessing. Your smooth and relaxing voice is helping me to stop overthinking
My favorite summon so glad to see another onr of your videos. Latenna has always been an interesting character willing to be a summon to serve her journey.
been waiting for this, thanks :)
Watching your video made me think about Miquella's relationship with the albinaurics. We know at castle sol they were experimenting on albinaurics, as well as trying to find a way to revive godwyn. Maybe the two are connected? So the eclipse cult was experimenting on albinaurics to see how to get godwyn a new body? & if that's the case, maybe only Niall and the albinaurics having the two keys to the haligtree implies that albinaurics were being sent to castle sol instead of the haligtree to provide subjects for the experiments. So, another tragedy in the ablinaurics story, where Miquella betrays his promise to protect albinaurics in order to save his brother.
Im glad to see you posted. Your one of my favorite CZcamsrs. Definitely my favorite elden ring CZcamsr overall. :)
Woah! Latenna was already my favorite Spirit Summon, but the fact that she can ride hostile wolves makes her even better!
Ive been binging your elden ring videos so im glad your still going with them! Also the black knife assassins would have to be nutty to go against malenia lol.
This is almost like being taught lore by a 'souls' character, brilliant. I've watched a few of your videos now, they make for good bedtime listening.
I'd love to hear you dig up everything you can on the Elden Beast, as I found that along with the music 🎵 it was the most interesting creature in the game. Though I think the lore around it is very limited, making it of course more interesting.
A very insightful video! Part of me hopes that Phillia will have more significance in the DLC, maybe even Latenna. I think it's also interesting (whether it has any significance I honestly don't know) that you can actually find the body of a first generation albinauric women near the Raya Lucaria Temple Quarter (I can update this comment if I find the exact location). You can loot some crystal rimed buds off of her but she's also surrounded by a bunch of second gen albinaurics. Again, I don't know how significant it is but I think it's interesting that in all of the game it's the only one you find outside the consecrated snowfields. It's as if she was either on her way to or from the village of the albinaurics or something. Great video again! hopefully DLC is here very soon!!
Wow! I had no idea you can do that at the end for Latenna's Ashes! Definitely going to do that the next go around! It always bothered me a bit, that at the end of her Questline, you couldn't fulfill her final wish! Now, thanks to THIS, you can!
Excellent video as usual, Miss Chalice. A thought occurred about the origin of the Albinaurics. We know the Night folk have the silver tears, which can mimic just about anyone. What if the Albinauric is a product of someone stealing or acquiring somehow whatever formula makes up the silver tears, and they used it to try to recreate and mass produce an army of super soldiers, say modelled from Loretta. The female variant were for the most part successful, but with the same affliction as Loretta. I don't quite know what the males would have been modelled after, but Pidia seems to be closest non-Albinauric character, so maybe he was involved in some way as a test subject to see if early experimentation would/could work. Once Pidia clones proved viable, they moved on to making Loretta clones.
your videos are what's keeping me sane while I "patiently" wait for the DLC announcement :,)
Such a great timing. I am currently on a long-ish journey and have this master piece waiting for me to watch it.
I'm liking ur videos, you have a soothing voice that's perfect for narrating these types of videos.
Excellent video Chalice! Another thing of note about the 2nd Gen Albinaurics relates to the subset who patrol the area between eastern Ordina and a dead minor Erdtree. These guys possess gold-hued eyes and are even capable of using the Discus of Light incantation. What are your thoughts on this group?
Love your cosplay and video, thanks for the awesome content!
Yessss, finally! This is one of my favourite topics.
Another wonderful video Chalice!
'The torturer NO LONGER seeks answers' This for the black dumpling indicates that they were seeking answers and found none from that individual.
Yay, new vid! I adore your content! ❤ Thanks you for the hard work
Chalice looks like a different person in this cosplay. She puts a lot of effort into those.