For those who don't get the 500% efficiency number, it is not a true efficiency number, it's effective efficiency. A refrigerator can *move (not generate)* 5000 watts of heat out using 1000 watts of electricity. The heat inside the fridge already exists as a waste product, and as such, is not factored into the efficiency calculation when the hot side of the refrigeration unit is used to heat the inside of the store. This efficiency calculation method makes more sense when calculating cost of operation. If you do factor in the existing heat that's just being moved, it would have 100% efficiency as a heater as all consumed power is eventually turned into heat.
The heat pump or air conditioner in your house/car is 200-400% efficient. 500% efficiency means that for one joule of energy expended, 5 joules of energy are moved from one place to another. Imagine picking up a 1 kg bucket of hot coals and lifting it 1m. That takes U=mgh calories of work no matter how hot the coals are. But there can be millions of calories of heat in that bucket.
Have any of the reporters at the station passed high school physics? Or maybe taken Physics 101 in college? My best guess is that, like most news media people, they spent years in college learning how to be talking empty heads so that they can report on things they know nothing about. It is impossible to achieve more than 100% efficiency. The would be perpetual motion which has never been done. The US patent office will not issue a patent for any kind of perpetual motion or machine which claims to have over unity efficiency. The compressors that he showed in his box were about the size one would typically see in a standard whole house AC unit.
Heating and refrigeration systems are capable of over 100% efficiency, as they are moving heat instead of generating it a electric space heater is 100% efficient already so anything that can move more heat than a space heater can generate per amount of energy used is by definition over 100% efficient. It's a technicality that lets one make a seemingly impossible claim while staying within the laws of physics.
@@fluffball1415 Resistance heating is nearly 100% efficient at converting electricity into heat. And, I do understand how heat pump works. They can deliver more heat for a given amount of electricity than a resistance heating unit, but that is taking heat energy from one place and moving it to another. Even if they output more heat, they are electro-mechanical devices that are far less than 100% efficient. Technology Connection and Connextras did several very in depth explanations of heat pumps and ran the math on them.
Say you buy a 12,000 BTU window air conditioner for your living room. 12k BTU/hr is about 3.5kW. Yet the air conditioner only draws 15A of power, and only when the compressor is running. That means that you're getting 3.5kW of cooling for only 1500W, or a little over 200% efficiency. This is because the heat that the AC is moving isn't coming out of the wall outlet. It isn't being generated or used by the AC, just put into a fluid and then vented outdoors with a fan. A 100% efficient air conditioner is seriously malfunctioning and needs to be serviced.
@@stickyfox it depends on your definition of efficiency. it is over 100% in delivering heat but the mechanism is not 100% efficient mechanically. if it's over 100% then it can power itself which is not possible.
I think the extra efficiency comes from the heat energy transfer from the outside air which isn't factored in. The energy they look at for calculating efficiency is just what the pump uses, not what cools the heated refrigerant. All the pump does is compress which heats the refrigerant and then the outside air cools it resulting in the magical "free energy"
Well .... once he's up an running ... It'll be a thing to believe. I don't see how that small single compressor can effectively refrigerate a diary case / how many freezers / the walk in freezers etc etc etc in just one store?
For those who don't get the 500% efficiency number, it is not a true efficiency number, it's effective efficiency. A refrigerator can *move (not generate)* 5000 watts of heat out using 1000 watts of electricity. The heat inside the fridge already exists as a waste product, and as such, is not factored into the efficiency calculation when the hot side of the refrigeration unit is used to heat the inside of the store. This efficiency calculation method makes more sense when calculating cost of operation. If you do factor in the existing heat that's just being moved, it would have 100% efficiency as a heater as all consumed power is eventually turned into heat.
That's right. But to be fair, "efficiency" is not the correct term. Bangor man is talking about "coefficient of performance", not "efficiency".
Do they have a magic box that defies physics?
Maybe a CO2 heat pump?
500% efficiency eh?
The heat pump or air conditioner in your house/car is 200-400% efficient.
500% efficiency means that for one joule of energy expended, 5 joules of energy are moved from one place to another.
Imagine picking up a 1 kg bucket of hot coals and lifting it 1m. That takes U=mgh calories of work no matter how hot the coals are. But there can be millions of calories of heat in that bucket.
Efficiency in terms of heat transfer via heat movement. No laws are broken.
The audio channels are tripping me out.
It's pretty bad. Mixing it down to mono would be nicer.
Have any of the reporters at the station passed high school physics? Or maybe taken Physics 101 in college? My best guess is that, like most news media people, they spent years in college learning how to be talking empty heads so that they can report on things they know nothing about.
It is impossible to achieve more than 100% efficiency. The would be perpetual motion which has never been done. The US patent office will not issue a patent for any kind of perpetual motion or machine which claims to have over unity efficiency.
The compressors that he showed in his box were about the size one would typically see in a standard whole house AC unit.
Heating and refrigeration systems are capable of over 100% efficiency, as they are moving heat instead of generating it a electric space heater is 100% efficient already so anything that can move more heat than a space heater can generate per amount of energy used is by definition over 100% efficient. It's a technicality that lets one make a seemingly impossible claim while staying within the laws of physics.
@@fluffball1415 Resistance heating is nearly 100% efficient at converting electricity into heat. And, I do understand how heat pump works. They can deliver more heat for a given amount of electricity than a resistance heating unit, but that is taking heat energy from one place and moving it to another. Even if they output more heat, they are electro-mechanical devices that are far less than 100% efficient. Technology Connection and Connextras did several very in depth explanations of heat pumps and ran the math on them.
Say you buy a 12,000 BTU window air conditioner for your living room. 12k BTU/hr is about 3.5kW. Yet the air conditioner only draws 15A of power, and only when the compressor is running. That means that you're getting 3.5kW of cooling for only 1500W, or a little over 200% efficiency.
This is because the heat that the AC is moving isn't coming out of the wall outlet. It isn't being generated or used by the AC, just put into a fluid and then vented outdoors with a fan.
A 100% efficient air conditioner is seriously malfunctioning and needs to be serviced.
@@stickyfox it depends on your definition of efficiency. it is over 100% in delivering heat but the mechanism is not 100% efficient mechanically. if it's over 100% then it can power itself which is not possible.
I think the extra efficiency comes from the heat energy transfer from the outside air which isn't factored in. The energy they look at for calculating efficiency is just what the pump uses, not what cools the heated refrigerant. All the pump does is compress which heats the refrigerant and then the outside air cools it resulting in the magical "free energy"
Well .... once he's up an running ... It'll be a thing to believe. I don't see how that small single compressor can effectively refrigerate a diary case / how many freezers / the walk in freezers etc etc etc in just one store?
We can expect him to disappear or this invention will become another casualty of the government’s ability to take and shelve inventions.
Nearly zero information. What is being achieved? Heating the store with the heat from the refrigeration that would normally be dumped outside?
Reminds me of the car that runs on water or maybe cold fusion reactors. All BS.
I believe in your invention. Wasted heat recovery system