What always baffles me about them is that they film in a warehouse full of merchandise and then you go to their website and everything is “OH NO LAST ONE IN STOCK”
if theyre doing shady/dishonest stuff in one place (like saying theyre doing things theyre not), is it really a surprise? dont deal with businesses the moment they do something dishonest, its the tip of the iceberg
it's a tactic to boost sales seeing last in stock makes the buyer want to purchase it faster than waiting around to buy something, same thing on ebay sellers just want to boost sales normally or they'll price high and sell lower then usual cause if it was refurbed there probably off a pallet that costed them nothing like 100x consoles for $1000 dollars and being sold for $60 each making $6000 without the tax etc very good earnings if done right
I worked at an Electronic Recycling facility sort of recently. It was like the worst job I've ever had. It was basically a warehouse filled to the absolute brim with trash, like it's shocking the first time you walk in, it's an actual mountain. One of the jobs was sorting for things like consoles, putting them all in giant container and then people would bid on the container. So companies would buy a container of misc electronics for like $500 for a variety of different reasons. The amount of dirt inside those consoles and the way they look makes me think that's what's happening here.
This is legit business, that container will earn them around 20k if they get good stuff, at worst it will be 2-3k in raw materials. There are many blind auctions of literally anything, in Germany even military auctions mystery containers with military equipment (not weapons tho). Sometimes you get used helmets worth nothing, sometimes you get unused generators, kitchens, medical equipment worth 200k+ for like 4-5k per container.
8:57 The irony of Charlie saying "I don't think anyone's expecting to MAGICALLY ERASE cat scratch marks on it" when those cat scratches were probably caused by DKOldies' Magic Eraser step of their refurbishing process
Magic erasers are abrasive but idk if they can be causing THOSE scratches. They must be using some freaking steel wool sponge LOOOOL! Edit: apparently melamine sponges are very abrasive; I never knew that. I've used them on figurines and the like....There is scratch removal/fill gel that will repair scratches on plastic, CDs/DVDs, headlights, car paint, windows, electronics, etc....There are also machines that clean and fill in the scratches of discs, idk if they are standard or if I was just lucky to see them at all the game/second hand stores in my area
@@sexygirlmax2019 …. You’re joking right? That’s how magic erasers work - they’re actually abrasive. It’s not to the same degree as sand paper or steel wool, but they are definitely abrasive
@@sexygirlmax2019 Magic Erasers are an abrasive material because of its design. That's how it's soft and cleans so well. Shouldn't use it on many things like Plastic, Teflon, Stainless Steel, etc. Basically anything that will scratch.
Charlie hitting us with a dose of existential dread within the first minute of the video is amazing. As a wise man said, "Nostalgia is basically addictive pain".
It's why it's so easy to scam on ebay. "No I didn't receive it. No idea what you're talking about. Give me my money back now. No I won't be sending the item back"
The issue isn’t even that their prices are jacked up, it’s that they’re claiming to refurbish consoles, but they don’t. They just buy the console from eBay or a pawn shop or something, maybe wipe the top off, and then slap their warranty sticker on it and claim it’s refurbished. It’s more than just false advertising, it’s a scam.
Thank you for addressing the issues with DKOldies Charlie. Way too many small CZcamsrs tried to warn consumers of their fraudulent practices, but nobody would listen.
One of my big problems is that they pride themselves in being able to perfectly tell fake products from real ones, and then filmed and uploaded a video of them destroying an extremely rare piece of retro ware because they thought it was fake.
It’s not hard to tell between knockoffs and the real deal when it comes to classic games… that extremely rare piece of retro ware was basically worthless since it’s a knockoff. I can guarantee you considering that they over charge for many items, they wouldn’t destroy something that could actually get them money
What's insidious is there are whole generations who have not played these retro games, that may competely miss out because of practices like this, which is why emulation is insanely important. Its not so much that they should play them, but they should have the OPTION to.
I got into Fire Emblem in November, and I’ve just had to emulate the older games because some of them run for hundreds of dollars. They’re great games, but this investor(I’m not even going to call them collectors) market has raised the price even more than they’d be normally.
@@pkcell yeah same situation for me. I just finished playing path of radiance and radiant dawn which are definitely two of the best games in the series. Assuming one already has the consoles they run on (wii and GameCube) it would cost them around 500 dollars to buy both of those games. That’s not even money that would go to Nintendo or the developers. You’re literally just paying some speculator. Anyone who says emulation is bad is a fool.
For a while there, I was looking into copies of Conker's Bad Fur Day, and they were going for 300-900 dollars online, then I walked into this random ass mom and pop game shop, and well and behold, Conkers, and only for 20 bucks? Hmmmmm, almost makes you think that the retro games market is a scam.
Nostalgia hurts sometimes. Like when I play a game I played as a kid and realize I'll never experience it like I did when I was a kid and that it'll never be the same.
Although there are some games that you can play 20 years later and it brings you right back to when you were a kid, a tragically small ammount of games are like that.
@@RedForeman Wouldn’t be surprised if they are cutting corners, although I don’t know if just me, but I like the taste of the smaller bag of Cheetos than the big bag one, idk it just taste better.
It’s very easy to be sad missing your childhood... but you can try to think of it this way, and it might help. Don’t be sad that it’s gone and done, be happy that it happened. Be happy that you got to have those experiences.
I’m 18 rn and ever since I was like 15 I’ve been scared to grow up cause my childhood is leaving me, and I’m still scared. I don’t know how I’ll make it in life man and like I don’t want to get old either I don’t want to be trapped in my body
Charlie, there are legitimately consoles they sold that didn’t even work because they weren’t refurbished and after people cleaned it themselves, it finally worked. Its like paying for a hotel room and after getting inside you see the room and everything is dirty so you had to clean it before you can use the most basic functionalities.
@@Space_Ache literally any video of somebody receiving a console from DKOldies on CZcams, no joke, three off the top of my head are reviewtechUSA's original xbox, Retrogameguy's n64 and Kreesky's n64, search those. The consoles didnt even work, not refurbished, sold at twice the price people usually sell them for, and people keep buying from these guys for no good reason.
Not only are you paying for a hotel room but you’re paying EXORBITANT prices for this hotel room just for it to be dirty or not even have functioning things. And when you do clean it, the management is like “well that voids out your warranty so you can’t get a refund for what you bought”
Thank you so much Charlie for shining light on this. I’m afraid prices are going to go up for retro games because of them and I hope you are able to help bring a light to this situation.
Iconic games already made their money back in the day, so any physical copies just benefit re sellers. Just go ahead and find the ROM for whatever you want to re live
EMULATORS. Play literally anything for free. don't get attached to the nostalgia of the original setup, because almost all emulators are far more manageable and reliable, assuming you have the ability to learn how it works and that you have the hardware to run the games smoothly
From my experience most people lie when they say something is refurbished. Cleaning and resetting an electronic item isn't refurbished. Refurbished would be cleaning, replacing any consumables like batteries/drives, replacing broken parts, replacing thermal paste, and updating software/firmware.
I don't think there's some big conspiracy at DKOldies to not clean consoles as a way to save money or something. Probably just some rogue employee, likes to be lazy and skip a console here and there. "No one will ever know" he probably thought.
@@bestieswithtesties you could argue that, if literally every CZcamsr who orders from them ALWAYS gets a unrefurbished console, 8 for 8 isn't ideal at all.
@@bestieswithtesties If that’s all it is they would just fire the guy and say that. They’re not so it’s clearly company policy but they can’t admit that
@@powerrangerblue8566 I’ve seen plenty of CZcamsrs get a great console from them. They seriously aren’t scammers, their family owned business, and most likely it is an employee.
I used to work in Target electronics with one of the guys in the DK oldies videos. He was a really nice guy and we talked a lot about old school gaming at work. He was genuinely passionate about the stuff. Now he’s not the owner he’s just one of the employees in their videos but it does make me think that they at least employ decent people
People can also change, sadly. What was once a passionate person may in the future use their knowledge gained in that period of passion to scam unknowing victims.
While eBay is definitely a coin toss at times, I prefer having the option to see photos of the exact item I’m going to buy. I can’t trust someone to sell me a used product and not be able to see the condition it’s in and instead have to take their word for it.
Seeing a picture of every angle and a picture of the system turned on is a hundred times more assurance than anything i would get on dkoldies I dont mind the scratches and possible dirt inside and if you do mind it you can look for a system without scratches or with scratches in places you dont mind which is another one up over dkoldies especially buying things from japan thats like a guarantee itll be looked and cared for like a baby im typing this on a pocket laptop i got imported from japan and the inside was literally sparkling and they even replaced the battery with a new one which was the only thing i was scared about because the original batteries were glued on the system with the force of the sun but with that new battery i wont have to worry about replacing it or taking a few hours to remove the glue to not bend the system because they hotglued it :D
I'm Charlie's age and I've started having the same moments lol. Especially since I've been regularly interacting with 14-16 year Olds they just make me feel old even though I'm not really yet lol.
The other major factor not touched on in this video is that they have a "warranty" on every console, but they enforce its conditions through a sealed sticker that warns that opening it at all voids said warranty (word is getting around now that such a policy is not legal in the USA), but uninformed people are scared that DKO will not service or replace the console if it breaks after they've opened it to clean it at home. Worse, some people who do know better are arguing with DKO about it and not getting anywhere because they often refuse to listen to that. So it sounds like a lawsuit might be brewing. They're refusing to help people they took money from, and that' s nasty.
Just watched the video on someordinarygamers about this. I’m glad you posted a video about it too. Love your videos Charlie keep up the great work man.
Can we talk about the brush that was used on the Wii while it was getting cleaned?? What an amazing tool! Not only does it barely suck up the dust, clearly, it also creates new scratches to make sure you get your cosmetically flawed system!
Glad Charlie addressed this My mom got scammed by DKOldies and I felt so bad bc she just wanted to buy a gift Edit: y’all need to calm down. She was way overcharged for some NES games/accessories, half of which didn’t work when they arrived.
Seeing the Wii being now a retro console hurts a little. I still have mine and of course it works wonderfully(minus the fact I can’t connect to the wifi) and when I use it I go ballistic.
I bought shit from them about 10 years ago and my experiences with them at that time were pretty good. I think what happened is what happens with a lot of smaller businesses when they get bigger and that’s the fact that their quality control has declined in order to keep up with demand. It’s shitty, but a lot of places sell their souls to be profitable.
I started collecting retro games in high school and stumbled across dk oldies because they had some obscure stuff I was looking for and then I saw the prices and never went back
I bought a Wii, 2 Wiimotes and a zapper attatchment for the Wiimotes for around 25$ at Goodwill a few months back. Wii and the Wiimotes are in great condition too but it was missing a power cable/video cable. Funny seeing that Wii for 60$, 119$ for the one that isn't cosmetically flawed.
They explain the pricing in one of their shorts from (I think) around October. They claimed it was due to them blowing up in populatarity, and everything was going to be more high in demand. And had to buy a bunch of stock, and make a profit off of that stock, But others did some digging on the prices and found that the prices were the same before they started to go viral.
For what exactly? Not cleaning their consoles perfectly? They're allowed to make the prices whatever they want, and even at the high price, there seems to be good demand for their products. And I'm sure if someone were to get a defective product, they would work with them to correct the situation.
@@SwagJaws so i can post my dusty, dirty, grimey, thermal melted throttling gpu on the market and say its refurbished? You do realize if that was a business practice, that would be false advertising and illegal to boot right?
I remember getting absolutely robbed by gamestop whenever I'd trade in my old console or games, knowing they go for this much now just adds to the pain.
Gamestop should always be the last resort for selling games tbh. Although it's also good if you want to get at least a penny out of some dogshit games that no one else will buy. (i.e Madden, 2k, or any of the Kingdom Hearts games)
As an Ebay seller, I say it's a lot harder for scammers to become sellers nowadays. Ebay has made some pretty strict rules for sellers. That being said there are still some scammers on there, but the majority are just normal people running a small business, like me.
@@erikvaldes4293 in that case I would look at the rating of the seller and for a product with an actual photo of the controller, not a stock image. Also read the description if it specifically says "original" or if it just says "compatible with" or similar
Lmao are you sure you have used eBay before? A quick search will turn up a massive number of obvious scams and fake products. This is exactly why I rarely use eBay. Shit I mean look at all the CZcams content based around buying eBay stuff that is an obvious scam
Ebay does have buyer protection if your item isn’t ad described. I have generally good experiences with it. Also you can get dirt cheap consoles in the UK as the market for consoles and games is way less inflated compared to the US. I can’t believe some of these prices I am seeing on DK oldies.
This is essentially a car salesman selling you a car but not including the steering wheel, tires, and wheels because it never included it explicitly in the listing.
so good to see you pick this story up. i've been ripping on these guys for being bad actors in the retro games collecting scene for a while; even taken Joey himself to task a time or two. hopefully this lends some legitimacy to the real problems they cause through essentially scalping desirable pieces and not living up to their claimed service. a couple things i don't know if you touched on: nearly every single product on the site has a falsified sale price. they are listing the prices they always intended to charge as though it's a discount, trying to blatantly manipulate customers. also, while their prices are always high, they become absurd when you look at the most valuable pieces. EarthBound, legendary SNES game, is worth around $200 to $250 in good condition. they've listed it as high as $800, and never less than $600.
I think LegalEagle touched on this in his video on Established Titles, but permanent sales are technically not illegal, for a reason I can’t remember. So there’s a law we need to change.
@@minatoarisato4742 What? You don't buy games to play them. If I see anyone open a sealed Earthbound game, I'd have a heart attack. You buy them to sell them later.
@@Lybrel Absolutely not. You're absolute scum and a terrible person if you're buying something like Earthbound as some kind of idiotic investment. That mentality is exactly what has destroyed nearly all collector markets in the past years. It's just as bad as being a scalper.
@@tyjuarezIt's weird, because the Wii was already out in an era where HD was just slowly beginning to take over television as a whole. This "retro" thing is confusing.
Nostalgia comes from Greek "return home pain" and I think that's two feelings back to back. A positive return home feeling, then immediately lamenting that things aren't that way anymore. You don't HAVE to have that last part if you don't choose to though, it's okay that some things can't really be returned to. Wouldn't be life if you weren't always moving forward.
It gets even worse, In the full DkOldies "refurbishing" video they show how they use a magic eraser to remove stickers/adhesive from the consoles, this 100% explains why all of the glossy consoles are in such bad shape, since magic erasers are made for removing paint of stone walls...
I absolutely love that charlie upon reading the chat message categorizing this situation in some way admits to not knowing and does not make a hasty conclusion unlike other streamers who would've commented instantly without proper research
It’s a pretty low bar when the best reaction channels are simply people who can admit they’re ignorant to a subject before learning more and making a more informed assessment.
The nostalgia tangent made my heart kinda sad. Miss you too Charlie. We are all getting older. You helped me through school and now that I'm about to be 19 it's crazy... scammers are gross
If you're ever in the Des Moines area, I highly recommend Jay's CD and Hobbies. You can buy an N64 (which is refurbished) with cables and 2 controllers for $200. They also clean any game disc you get right before you leave with it.
This situation is really sad to me. I really enjoyed their tiktok videos and they seemed like a genuinely good company. I'm glad I never bought from them, cuz those prices are insane especially for how little work they seem to actually do
They also destroyed a rare ‘Chinese Knockoff’ iQue Gameboy Advance SP because they thought it was fake, and it was the OWNER that destroyed it 💀 I’m not trusting an owner that can’t find the difference between real and fake.
Yeah dude. I always thought my parents complained too much about moving around. Now im in my 20s and its already hitting me like a freight train. Sit too long on a hard surface and the next day is gonna be painful as hell.
It is definitely high. It is a little less in Canada at our shops, but its not like these are readily available around the corner at stores anymore. But I agree that for the price, on cleanliness, it should be spotless (Or the best you can do for dust etc)
As someone who is invested into this, I can say with most doubts removed, DKOldies deserves all the drama they receive. Still have some reservations but there is some stinky smelly garbo going on.
Charlie briefly stared into the cruel abyss of time and, all at once, the crushing sensation of unfathomable cosmic horror hit the plucky CZcamsr like he's the protagonist of a low budget isekai show who got hit by a truck.
That part at the beginning hit me in the gut because I feel it too. Even when it’s all said and done, people will remember you as one of the most genuine guys on the internet. That fear is normal. Talk to people. Let it out. It’s all we can do as human beings to lessen the struggle we all feel inside. I wish you luck in finding happiness.
Can't believe it's only 2 years from 2025. That intro really hit home. Im about the same age but suffer from an auto immune disorder that causes all my joints to pop in and out and has become increasingly painful to where im near immobile now. Incredibly depressing. Especially when you are fighting to survive bc dealing with insurance and doctors and disability and food stamps is incredibly difficult especially when you're disabled and without someone to help i feel im just withering away.
I was a district manager for a retro game store, and this is an unfortunate thing that happens at so many of these retro game realtors. The people who owns the company do not give a crap about the quality that just care about the quantity.
Kinda makes me glad i went the diy route with the retro stuff, was going to resell at one point too bought a ton of original gameboy, cleaned then inside and out and when i was done decided to keep 7 out of 9 of them lol
Favorite thing was watching their video of them grabbing a PSP from a box filled with other PSPs where they’re all layered facing each other back and forth, meaning the screens are going to scratch against each other
We got similar problems in the synth scene of people buying up used ones to price fix the market. I get the impression camera and video gear has a similar issue, basically anything retro is having the secondhand market online completely destroyed by people looking for the next tb-303
Nostalgia hurts the most because I was happier then, times were simpler then. Also my mom and dad were healthier and younger then now they're old and sick. My grandma has passed recently and now I have joint pain when approaching into my 30s. When we were young we wanted to be older but now I see I truly took it for granted and wished I savored my childhood a bit more. We have our whole life to be adults but have very little time to be a child.
This is something I'm trying to explain to my 5 1/2 year old. All she wants to do is sit and watch TV and gets cross with me when I tell her to go out. Last night we had a talk about growing up and I was saying to her that she will seriously miss being a kid and she should make the most of it now because being a adult SUCKS I'm 33
Look, I may be a zoomer, but remember that nostalgia is one hell of a drug! You can use it recreationally, but don't get habitual about it. The past felt good, but that's because you don't remember the bad stuff. I'm bearly an adult, but I need to think about my choices in the past. Doing stupid shit in school could have gotten me labeled as a loser with no hope in life! How could a kid end up with that responsibility? Well we all have it. No matter the age. Hardships are replaced with others, but the only way to go is forward. Keep fighting the good fight!
@@paulcarmi8130 so i shouldnt teach my children that they should make the most of being a child? And it's true being an adult does suck, its kinda frowned upon to play in the mud, climb trees, play knock a door run, tig, hide and seek, floor is lava etc etc. if you do that as an adult you'd be sectioned for being mentally unstable..... being an adult is full of boring responsibilities and a whole lot less joy than it did when we were kids. Television will still be there when you are an adult, being carefree and being able to play etc is for a very short amount of time
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Charlie’s “you are either a scammer or a victim” is starting to become even truer every day
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts
Says a Discord scammer
@@afar5y GameStop hates me bro
Cheese
Why can’t you be both? 😢
What always baffles me about them is that they film in a warehouse full of merchandise and then you go to their website and everything is “OH NO LAST ONE IN STOCK”
classic FOMO
It’s the classic marketing sham
if theyre doing shady/dishonest stuff in one place (like saying theyre doing things theyre not), is it really a surprise? dont deal with businesses the moment they do something dishonest, its the tip of the iceberg
It's literally what every CZcamsr does too. "Limited time/edition merch, Only available for this week, etc."
it's a tactic to boost sales seeing last in stock makes the buyer want to purchase it faster than waiting around to buy something, same thing on ebay sellers just want to boost sales normally or they'll price high and sell lower then usual cause if it was refurbed there probably off a pallet that costed them nothing like 100x consoles for $1000 dollars and being sold for $60 each making $6000 without the tax etc very good earnings if done right
I worked at an Electronic Recycling facility sort of recently. It was like the worst job I've ever had. It was basically a warehouse filled to the absolute brim with trash, like it's shocking the first time you walk in, it's an actual mountain. One of the jobs was sorting for things like consoles, putting them all in giant container and then people would bid on the container. So companies would buy a container of misc electronics for like $500 for a variety of different reasons. The amount of dirt inside those consoles and the way they look makes me think that's what's happening here.
Any pictures of said mountain? Not doubting your story, just curious
@@OverChainz "Worked"
This is legit business, that container will earn them around 20k if they get good stuff, at worst it will be 2-3k in raw materials. There are many blind auctions of literally anything, in Germany even military auctions mystery containers with military equipment (not weapons tho). Sometimes you get used helmets worth nothing, sometimes you get unused generators, kitchens, medical equipment worth 200k+ for like 4-5k per container.
Only Charlie can go from putting you in an existential crisis to finishing off the same sentence with "but anyway... they sell Retro Games".
8:57 The irony of Charlie saying "I don't think anyone's expecting to MAGICALLY ERASE cat scratch marks on it" when those cat scratches were probably caused by DKOldies' Magic Eraser step of their refurbishing process
Magic erasers are abrasive but idk if they can be causing THOSE scratches. They must be using some freaking steel wool sponge LOOOOL!
Edit: apparently melamine sponges are very abrasive; I never knew that. I've used them on figurines and the like....There is scratch removal/fill gel that will repair scratches on plastic, CDs/DVDs, headlights, car paint, windows, electronics, etc....There are also machines that clean and fill in the scratches of discs, idk if they are standard or if I was just lucky to see them at all the game/second hand stores in my area
@@sexygirlmax2019 …. You’re joking right? That’s how magic erasers work - they’re actually abrasive. It’s not to the same degree as sand paper or steel wool, but they are definitely abrasive
those sink foil scrubs
@@sexygirlmax2019 Magic Erasers are an abrasive material because of its design. That's how it's soft and cleans so well. Shouldn't use it on many things like Plastic, Teflon, Stainless Steel, etc. Basically anything that will scratch.
I used car polish/wax (I can’t remember which) on a very scratched wii one time and it deleted those scratches
Charlie hitting us with a dose of existential dread within the first minute of the video is amazing. As a wise man said, "Nostalgia is basically addictive pain".
He got so sad too. I was really feeling it lol
It wouldn't be so bad if time didn't move faster with what feels like every passing second.
@@PinkManGuy you can slow those seconds back down by breathing manually :)
@@PinkManGuy trueee
yeah it was unusually somber from a moistcritical video lmao. I definitely felt that
There is a pretty low risk of getting scammed on eBay since they almost always side with the buyer rather than the seller if there is an issue.
It's why it's so easy to scam on ebay. "No I didn't receive it. No idea what you're talking about. Give me my money back now. No I won't be sending the item back"
The issue isn’t even that their prices are jacked up, it’s that they’re claiming to refurbish consoles, but they don’t. They just buy the console from eBay or a pawn shop or something, maybe wipe the top off, and then slap their warranty sticker on it and claim it’s refurbished. It’s more than just false advertising, it’s a scam.
Since Charlie has now addressed the DKOldies drama, I'm throwing in a free keychain!
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts
@Darktion291 give up please.
Underrated comment
This comment is very solid.
@Darktion291 does anybody even click on the bots? i dont think anyone does anything but reply to them telling them to piss off and then report
Thank you for addressing the issues with DKOldies Charlie. Way too many small CZcamsrs tried to warn consumers of their fraudulent practices, but nobody would listen.
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Thats console only.
No cords.
nothing.
I thought it was super weird selling the console alone, and for that price.
Can we all appreciate how much effort DKOldies puts into their market manipulation?
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts.
We also gotta appreciate how much effort these botters dont put into advertising themselves
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE ok
Yeah, any company that throws out a "price cut" to trick people into thinking they are getting a deal is a scam to me.
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One of my big problems is that they pride themselves in being able to perfectly tell fake products from real ones, and then filmed and uploaded a video of them destroying an extremely rare piece of retro ware because they thought it was fake.
that sounds painful to watch
Oh my god, what was the retro ware?
@@g.wilson536 a Chinese gameboy
LMAO
It’s not hard to tell between knockoffs and the real deal when it comes to classic games… that extremely rare piece of retro ware was basically worthless since it’s a knockoff. I can guarantee you considering that they over charge for many items, they wouldn’t destroy something that could actually get them money
What's insidious is there are whole generations who have not played these retro games, that may competely miss out because of practices like this, which is why emulation is insanely important. Its not so much that they should play them, but they should have the OPTION to.
I got into Fire Emblem in November, and I’ve just had to emulate the older games because some of them run for hundreds of dollars. They’re great games, but this investor(I’m not even going to call them collectors) market has raised the price even more than they’d be normally.
@@pkcell yeah same situation for me. I just finished playing path of radiance and radiant dawn which are definitely two of the best games in the series. Assuming one already has the consoles they run on (wii and GameCube) it would cost them around 500 dollars to buy both of those games. That’s not even money that would go to Nintendo or the developers. You’re literally just paying some speculator. Anyone who says emulation is bad is a fool.
For a while there, I was looking into copies of Conker's Bad Fur Day, and they were going for 300-900 dollars online, then I walked into this random ass mom and pop game shop, and well and behold, Conkers, and only for 20 bucks? Hmmmmm, almost makes you think that the retro games market is a scam.
@@El-Gato69100% fake my man
Charlie almost went into a spiel about how time is gonna turn us all to dust. I want to hear more of that Charlie!
You know he's been holding that in 😂😂
Fireside existential talk
Nostalgia hurts sometimes. Like when I play a game I played as a kid and realize I'll never experience it like I did when I was a kid and that it'll never be the same.
I miss the way hot Cheetos use to taste when I was a kid 😂 now I’m 27 and they taste chemically made.
Although there are some games that you can play 20 years later and it brings you right back to when you were a kid, a tragically small ammount of games are like that.
@@HANGING_SILVER not really, it's about the mindset you had as a child, the innocence.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings yeah i understand what you mean.
@@RedForeman Wouldn’t be surprised if they are cutting corners, although I don’t know if just me, but I like the taste of the smaller bag of Cheetos than the big bag one, idk it just taste better.
Now that Charlie actually involved in this Saga, DKoldies finally has to own up to their actions. thanks Charlie
They probably won't.
They’ll just add a keychain. They’ve been heavy on posting “QC” videos. It’s hilarious.
I literally paid 10$ for a cleaner xbox360 with a game left inside, at a thrift store. Shop locally
Feels good to be early to controversy. Cant wait to see how this turns out.
lmao so Charlie covering this magically fixes everything, sure
I used to repair/refurb consoles as a side hustle. I never pulled any of this shit. This is pure laziness
I really appreciate your honest existential crisis at the beginning of this, it's very relatable.
Charlie talking about how nostalgia makes him sad made me depressed cause that's exactly the way I feel when I think about my childhood.
my farts are better than Charlie’s farts
Quit thinkin about stuff man. Ignorance is bliss.
It’s very easy to be sad missing your childhood... but you can try to think of it this way, and it might help. Don’t be sad that it’s gone and done, be happy that it happened. Be happy that you got to have those experiences.
Especially when your childhood is kinda shitty. It definitely makes you feel like shit
I’m 18 rn and ever since I was like 15 I’ve been scared to grow up cause my childhood is leaving me, and I’m still scared. I don’t know how I’ll make it in life man and like I don’t want to get old either I don’t want to be trapped in my body
Thank you for speaking about this situation Charlie. I’m glad someone as big as you in the CZcams scene is touching on their bs
Mutahar adressed it recently as well.
@@hazardousmatter2 funnily Muta also got on this before Charlie did, I've noticed recently Muta is like a day off from Charlie
@@hazardousmatter2 true true but as much as we love muta he still doesn’t quite have the reach Charlie does yet
Glad I'm only hearing about them now 😊
@@greenherooftheinterwebz7078in his defense he's canadian
Charlie, there are legitimately consoles they sold that didn’t even work because they weren’t refurbished and after people cleaned it themselves, it finally worked. Its like paying for a hotel room and after getting inside you see the room and everything is dirty so you had to clean it before you can use the most basic functionalities.
Do you have examples of this?
@@Space_Ache literally any video of somebody receiving a console from DKOldies on CZcams, no joke, three off the top of my head are reviewtechUSA's original xbox, Retrogameguy's n64 and Kreesky's n64, search those. The consoles didnt even work, not refurbished, sold at twice the price people usually sell them for, and people keep buying from these guys for no good reason.
@@ChristopherMcLarenExperience damn.
Not only are you paying for a hotel room but you’re paying EXORBITANT prices for this hotel room just for it to be dirty or not even have functioning things. And when you do clean it, the management is like “well that voids out your warranty so you can’t get a refund for what you bought”
@@Space_Ache Check out Jacob R's channel and especially Review Tech USA- all the proof you need right there
They dont even have a photo of what your buying its always stock photos.
I started following this after Rich’s first video on them. Can’t believe how long it’s been and now Charlie is covering it. Crazy.
Thank you so much Charlie for shining light on this. I’m afraid prices are going to go up for retro games because of them and I hope you are able to help bring a light to this situation.
CZcams gotta fix this bot shit
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts.
Iconic games already made their money back in the day, so any physical copies just benefit re sellers. Just go ahead and find the ROM for whatever you want to re live
Squarespace is a website that makes websites, people make other people, not my morbidly obese auntie tho….
EMULATORS. Play literally anything for free. don't get attached to the nostalgia of the original setup, because almost all emulators are far more manageable and reliable, assuming you have the ability to learn how it works and that you have the hardware to run the games smoothly
0:32 I beg you, calm down, I'm 29, man, I can't take these kinds of constant brutal reminders
From my experience most people lie when they say something is refurbished. Cleaning and resetting an electronic item isn't refurbished. Refurbished would be cleaning, replacing any consumables like batteries/drives, replacing broken parts, replacing thermal paste, and updating software/firmware.
Now that Charlie has addressed the situation, DKOldies can’t make any more excuses
I don't think there's some big conspiracy at DKOldies to not clean consoles as a way to save money or something. Probably just some rogue employee, likes to be lazy and skip a console here and there. "No one will ever know" he probably thought.
@420_69_no one asked
@@bestieswithtesties you could argue that, if literally every CZcamsr who orders from them ALWAYS gets a unrefurbished console, 8 for 8 isn't ideal at all.
@@bestieswithtesties If that’s all it is they would just fire the guy and say that. They’re not so it’s clearly company policy but they can’t admit that
@@powerrangerblue8566 I’ve seen plenty of CZcamsrs get a great console from them. They seriously aren’t scammers, their family owned business, and most likely it is an employee.
I used to work in Target electronics with one of the guys in the DK oldies videos. He was a really nice guy and we talked a lot about old school gaming at work. He was genuinely passionate about the stuff. Now he’s not the owner he’s just one of the employees in their videos but it does make me think that they at least employ decent people
It's definitely the owner he's such a guy 😅
Usually if it’s this bad it’s more of the people on top that cause the issue.
Well adleast their employees are nice people
why would a "nice" person even work at dkoldies a place known to sell overpriced shit
People can also change, sadly. What was once a passionate person may in the future use their knowledge gained in that period of passion to scam unknowing victims.
This is why I try to buy my stuff at stores around me if I can
While eBay is definitely a coin toss at times, I prefer having the option to see photos of the exact item I’m going to buy. I can’t trust someone to sell me a used product and not be able to see the condition it’s in and instead have to take their word for it.
Seeing a picture of every angle and a picture of the system turned on is a hundred times more assurance than anything i would get on dkoldies I dont mind the scratches and possible dirt inside and if you do mind it you can look for a system without scratches or with scratches in places you dont mind which is another one up over dkoldies especially buying things from japan thats like a guarantee itll be looked and cared for like a baby im typing this on a pocket laptop i got imported from japan and the inside was literally sparkling and they even replaced the battery with a new one which was the only thing i was scared about because the original batteries were glued on the system with the force of the sun but with that new battery i wont have to worry about replacing it or taking a few hours to remove the glue to not bend the system because they hotglued it :D
They even sent me the cutest japanese paper crane!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍 it looks so beautiful with little peach flower petals 😍😍😍
Man, Charlie is having an existential crisis in the beginning of the video
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We've all been there.
I'm Charlie's age and I've started having the same moments lol. Especially since I've been regularly interacting with 14-16 year Olds they just make me feel old even though I'm not really yet lol.
my existential crises are better than charlies existential crises
@@loopygordo Bro you might wanna explain yourself before the FBI come a knockin'
Charlie discussing about getting older and time passing on is something only people near or over 30 can truly resonate with. It’s actually horrifying
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33 here. I've been in a state of near constant existential dread since 29.
19 and i can relate 👴
Only people 40+ would really understand and truly grasp it
@@highfivegh0sth5g2525 and this shit hit me hard already
The other major factor not touched on in this video is that they have a "warranty" on every console, but they enforce its conditions through a sealed sticker that warns that opening it at all voids said warranty (word is getting around now that such a policy is not legal in the USA), but uninformed people are scared that DKO will not service or replace the console if it breaks after they've opened it to clean it at home. Worse, some people who do know better are arguing with DKO about it and not getting anywhere because they often refuse to listen to that. So it sounds like a lawsuit might be brewing.
They're refusing to help people they took money from, and that' s nasty.
Just watched the video on someordinarygamers about this. I’m glad you posted a video about it too. Love your videos Charlie keep up the great work man.
Can we talk about the brush that was used on the Wii while it was getting cleaned??
What an amazing tool! Not only does it barely suck up the dust, clearly, it also creates new scratches to make sure you get your cosmetically flawed system!
Seems the "cosmetically flawed" is the only thing they do themselves
I think they have enough stock of 'used, like new', but are short of 'cosmetically flawed' so they have to make a few.
The same as them using magic eraser on plastic
Glad Charlie addressed this
My mom got scammed by DKOldies and I felt so bad bc she just wanted to buy a gift
Edit: y’all need to calm down. She was way overcharged for some NES games/accessories, half of which didn’t work when they arrived.
Elaborate
Yeah, what happened ?
What happened
Bruh that's crazy I was gonna buy from them cuz I see them on YT all the time like WTF 😒
@SwordieSlice You don't get to tell them they can't ask for an elaboration.
Seeing the Wii being now a retro console hurts a little. I still have mine and of course it works wonderfully(minus the fact I can’t connect to the wifi) and when I use it I go ballistic.
The Wii is almost 18 years old…
@@IdiotPlaysgames69420 Truly, the end of an era
@@dreamiinotdream730 I will die on my hill that the best Era for gaming was when the PS3, Xbox 360, and WII were all the rage
@@SinAster_19 youre not special. Make some room on that hill. Alot of people share that opinion
I bought shit from them about 10 years ago and my experiences with them at that time were pretty good. I think what happened is what happens with a lot of smaller businesses when they get bigger and that’s the fact that their quality control has declined in order to keep up with demand. It’s shitty, but a lot of places sell their souls to be profitable.
I started collecting retro games in high school and stumbled across dk oldies because they had some obscure stuff I was looking for and then I saw the prices and never went back
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@@p-__lemme 👃
I bought a Wii, 2 Wiimotes and a zapper attatchment for the Wiimotes for around 25$ at Goodwill a few months back. Wii and the Wiimotes are in great condition too but it was missing a power cable/video cable. Funny seeing that Wii for 60$, 119$ for the one that isn't cosmetically flawed.
They explain the pricing in one of their shorts from (I think) around October. They claimed it was due to them blowing up in populatarity, and everything was going to be more high in demand. And had to buy a bunch of stock, and make a profit off of that stock, But others did some digging on the prices and found that the prices were the same before they started to go viral.
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@@p-__ lemme get a huff
i remember them saying they also price stuff in accordance to demand
I just got a ps5 for $450, and bros selling a ps3 for $400 💀
I hope DKOldies gets a class action lawsuit, they deserve it
For what exactly? Not cleaning their consoles perfectly? They're allowed to make the prices whatever they want, and even at the high price, there seems to be good demand for their products. And I'm sure if someone were to get a defective product, they would work with them to correct the situation.
@Austin if you advertise that you REFURBISH all your consoles and you don't, that's false advertising. High school is in session go back to class
@@SwagJaws so i can post my dusty, dirty, grimey, thermal melted throttling gpu on the market and say its refurbished? You do realize if that was a business practice, that would be false advertising and illegal to boot right?
@@SwagJaws bootlicker
THEY DID!!! LETS GOOOO!!!
Damn Charlie hitting hard out of the gate with the Existential dread in full force. Wasn't prepared for that nearly as much as I should have been.
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You should never be prepared for that. Rage against the dying of the light.
That was naught but a mere fart in the wind of the cyclone that is Existential Dread
I remember getting absolutely robbed by gamestop whenever I'd trade in my old console or games, knowing they go for this much now just adds to the pain.
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Gamestop should always be the last resort for selling games tbh. Although it's also good if you want to get at least a penny out of some dogshit games that no one else will buy. (i.e Madden, 2k, or any of the Kingdom Hearts games)
I love how the product they always show being picked off the shelf was placed there previously and doesnt belong there at all
There are kits you can get for a few dollars to fix scratches on plastic. Takes minutes I used it on my motorbike.
0:54 aw poor guy :(
As an Ebay seller, I say it's a lot harder for scammers to become sellers nowadays. Ebay has made some pretty strict rules for sellers. That being said there are still some scammers on there, but the majority are just normal people running a small business, like me.
same, you definitely have to differ between private sellers and actual shops. charlie is clearly in the wrong here.
@@caprimann87 So when using Ebay I should look for stores instead of private sellers? Im looking for ps3 controller and those are notoriously faked
@@erikvaldes4293 in that case I would look at the rating of the seller and for a product with an actual photo of the controller, not a stock image. Also read the description if it specifically says "original" or if it just says "compatible with" or similar
@JW I have a shop in Germany and often bought from UK shops on ebay (before the great brexit idea tho) and never had any problems
Lmao are you sure you have used eBay before? A quick search will turn up a massive number of obvious scams and fake products. This is exactly why I rarely use eBay. Shit I mean look at all the CZcams content based around buying eBay stuff that is an obvious scam
Ebay does have buyer protection if your item isn’t ad described. I have generally good experiences with it. Also you can get dirt cheap consoles in the UK as the market for consoles and games is way less inflated compared to the US. I can’t believe some of these prices I am seeing on DK oldies.
This is essentially a car salesman selling you a car but not including the steering wheel, tires, and wheels because it never included it explicitly in the listing.
so good to see you pick this story up. i've been ripping on these guys for being bad actors in the retro games collecting scene for a while; even taken Joey himself to task a time or two. hopefully this lends some legitimacy to the real problems they cause through essentially scalping desirable pieces and not living up to their claimed service.
a couple things i don't know if you touched on: nearly every single product on the site has a falsified sale price. they are listing the prices they always intended to charge as though it's a discount, trying to blatantly manipulate customers. also, while their prices are always high, they become absurd when you look at the most valuable pieces. EarthBound, legendary SNES game, is worth around $200 to $250 in good condition. they've listed it as high as $800, and never less than $600.
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts.
I think LegalEagle touched on this in his video on Established Titles, but permanent sales are technically not illegal, for a reason I can’t remember. So there’s a law we need to change.
That's crazy, You're better off buying Earthbound on the 3DS for $10 - $11 on the eshop or emulating the game.
@@minatoarisato4742 What? You don't buy games to play them. If I see anyone open a sealed Earthbound game, I'd have a heart attack. You buy them to sell them later.
@@Lybrel Absolutely not. You're absolute scum and a terrible person if you're buying something like Earthbound as some kind of idiotic investment. That mentality is exactly what has destroyed nearly all collector markets in the past years. It's just as bad as being a scalper.
The Nintendo Wii being referred to as a retro system made all the joints in my body ache
Bruh, my nephew told me my old 3ds is before I was even born last christmas vacation.
And now I started seeing gray hair on my head.
It doesn't have an HDMI port. If it's built for use with a CRT screen I'd say it's retro.
@@tyjuarezIt's weird, because the Wii was already out in an era where HD was just slowly beginning to take over television as a whole.
This "retro" thing is confusing.
It can't be that old..right?
@@tyjuarez but it was launched at the same time as consoles that DID have an hdmi port. So that criteria is moot...
When you said “actually its not really beautiful because when i get nostalgic i just get sad” i felt that 😖
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@@p-__ ok I get it. Your farts are better than Charlie’s. Stop commenting that now
I remember playing $20 for a "fat" PS3 from a friend a few years back, with 2 first party controllers and in great condition.
What a bro
You know it's real when Charlie covers the DKOldies drama
Nostalgia comes from Greek "return home pain" and I think that's two feelings back to back. A positive return home feeling, then immediately lamenting that things aren't that way anymore. You don't HAVE to have that last part if you don't choose to though, it's okay that some things can't really be returned to. Wouldn't be life if you weren't always moving forward.
It gets even worse, In the full DkOldies "refurbishing" video they show how they use a magic eraser to remove stickers/adhesive from the consoles, this 100% explains why all of the glossy consoles are in such bad shape, since magic erasers are made for removing paint of stone walls...
seriously!? i haven't even seen that one. have the fuckers never heard of Goo Gone? i swear i didn't think their image could get worse lol
@@matthewbertrand4139 yep lol, it's in the same video that Charlie watched in this video, he probably just missed it :)
i honestly think their philosophy on criticism is "if I don't see them they don't see me."
Nostalgia is one of the most intense bittersweet feelings of dread and pure childlike happiness ive ever experienced and im ADDICTED to that feeling
I absolutely love that charlie upon reading the chat message categorizing this situation in some way admits to not knowing and does not make a hasty conclusion unlike other streamers who would've commented instantly without proper research
I have much respect for anyone who can check the facts before reacting with pure emotion, it surely isn't easy.
It’s a pretty low bar when the best reaction channels are simply people who can admit they’re ignorant to a subject before learning more and making a more informed assessment.
10:02 the fact that the dog looks so happy being pet brings a smile to my face.
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What a happy boi ; u ;
0:55 Off-topic, but it sounds like Charlie could’ve gone on for another few minutes with that one.
I've been watching this Saga for the last month, if not more. I'm so happy to see that you're covering this
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Yay I was hoping u would go over this!!!
Nostalgia is fun for the first few minutes or hours, then it just hits deep.
The nostalgia tangent made my heart kinda sad. Miss you too Charlie. We are all getting older. You helped me through school and now that I'm about to be 19 it's crazy... scammers are gross
My friend, you'll eventually have nostalgia for right now
19 is really young, learn a skill, persue your passion and dont let life get away from you
Once you hit 30 it all starts to go downhill, enjoy your youth while you can.
25 now, and everyday I wake up in pain…
@@zambonibob2026 I can relate. 27 and my knees are fecked! 😅
Charlie having an existential crisis 1 minute into the video has become just par for the course
If you're ever in the Des Moines area, I highly recommend Jay's CD and Hobbies. You can buy an N64 (which is refurbished) with cables and 2 controllers for $200. They also clean any game disc you get right before you leave with it.
That price is actually really bad.
8:05 That’s literally how much it costed brand new, bc I had one of those. That’s insane.
LITERALLY
This situation is really sad to me. I really enjoyed their tiktok videos and they seemed like a genuinely good company. I'm glad I never bought from them, cuz those prices are insane especially for how little work they seem to actually do
I like how he was about to get deep into how he thinks of life now that he’s older lmao
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I agree with the summarization of nostalgia in the beginning here.
I like the existential panic that lasts for a few seconds before he corrects course
I can't wait to see Charlie in 20 years keeping us up to date on all the latest scams
The Atari 2600 was my favorite game system as a kid in 2008, retro games just hit different
I got one from DK, it was dirty, and not refurbished at all. I still enjoy playing it though, glad to see another Atari fan.
@Dont Read Profile Picture ok I wont
They also destroyed a rare ‘Chinese Knockoff’ iQue Gameboy Advance SP because they thought it was fake, and it was the OWNER that destroyed it 💀
I’m not trusting an owner that can’t find the difference between real and fake.
Yeah dude. I always thought my parents complained too much about moving around. Now im in my 20s and its already hitting me like a freight train. Sit too long on a hard surface and the next day is gonna be painful as hell.
You know it’s bad when even Charlie has to give DKOldies a God Slap.
Guys. Can we just appreciate not his work but the fact that dkoldies really prices these things higher than snoop dog?
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no
@Dont Read Profile Picture Let me tell you something. I can and I will. You can not stop me from reading. I can't even stop myself.
@Darktion look everyone the bot said the one type of person whose life unequivocally, unarguably does not matter
Can we just appreciate that OP is also a bot because the comment fucking starts with "can we just appreciate"?
Been waiting for this video
It is definitely high. It is a little less in Canada at our shops, but its not like these are readily available around the corner at stores anymore. But I agree that for the price, on cleanliness, it should be spotless (Or the best you can do for dust etc)
As someone who is invested into this, I can say with most doubts removed, DKOldies deserves all the drama they receive. Still have some reservations but there is some stinky smelly garbo going on.
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@@p-__The fuck do bots even gain by saying shit like this?
Charlie briefly stared into the cruel abyss of time and, all at once, the crushing sensation of unfathomable cosmic horror hit the plucky CZcamsr like he's the protagonist of a low budget isekai show who got hit by a truck.
I hope nobody calls the comma police
No point in getting depressed about getting old. Time and Tide stops for no one.
about time you covered this charlie
That part at the beginning hit me in the gut because I feel it too. Even when it’s all said and done, people will remember you as one of the most genuine guys on the internet. That fear is normal. Talk to people. Let it out. It’s all we can do as human beings to lessen the struggle we all feel inside.
I wish you luck in finding happiness.
Can't believe it's only 2 years from 2025. That intro really hit home. Im about the same age but suffer from an auto immune disorder that causes all my joints to pop in and out and has become increasingly painful to where im near immobile now. Incredibly depressing. Especially when you are fighting to survive bc dealing with insurance and doctors and disability and food stamps is incredibly difficult especially when you're disabled and without someone to help i feel im just withering away.
Oof bro. I wish you well. Take care
Hard to read what you're going through man. Hope you will do OK.
i wish you the best man
Stay strong king (or queen)
Best of luck brother, I wish to have switched places just to bare your burden so you could experience some bliss.
You know you’re in trouble when Charlie discusses a topic
I was a district manager for a retro game store, and this is an unfortunate thing that happens at so many of these retro game realtors. The people who owns the company do not give a crap about the quality that just care about the quantity.
Since Charlie discussed the DKOldies situation, I'm throwing in a free DESTROYED DS!
All I needed was Charles covering this
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Kinda makes me glad i went the diy route with the retro stuff, was going to resell at one point too bought a ton of original gameboy, cleaned then inside and out and when i was done decided to keep 7 out of 9 of them lol
Favorite thing was watching their video of them grabbing a PSP from a box filled with other PSPs where they’re all layered facing each other back and forth, meaning the screens are going to scratch against each other
12:58 "h-here you go boss i cleaned it because are definitely not a scam"
0:37 Charlie black-pilling I felt that man
We got similar problems in the synth scene of people buying up used ones to price fix the market. I get the impression camera and video gear has a similar issue, basically anything retro is having the secondhand market online completely destroyed by people looking for the next tb-303
The reason they charge so much is they claim they have the “real games” and not the fake ones
Charlie: Sits and talking on mic for 10-15 minutes
Early comments: “Can we appreciate how much effort he puts into his videos?”
They’re called bots
@Calvin Lee Vail literally no one
@Calvin Lee Vail I don’t
@Calvin Lee Vail happy birthday to you and your family and friends and family and friends and family and the family yyyyyyy and the
the bots are so bad dude 💀
Nostalgia hurts the most because I was happier then, times were simpler then. Also my mom and dad were healthier and younger then now they're old and sick. My grandma has passed recently and now I have joint pain when approaching into my 30s. When we were young we wanted to be older but now I see I truly took it for granted and wished I savored my childhood a bit more. We have our whole life to be adults but have very little time to be a child.
amen brother , from a fellow 90s kid
This is something I'm trying to explain to my 5 1/2 year old. All she wants to do is sit and watch TV and gets cross with me when I tell her to go out. Last night we had a talk about growing up and I was saying to her that she will seriously miss being a kid and she should make the most of it now because being a adult SUCKS
I'm 33
Look, I may be a zoomer, but remember that nostalgia is one hell of a drug! You can use it recreationally, but don't get habitual about it. The past felt good, but that's because you don't remember the bad stuff.
I'm bearly an adult, but I need to think about my choices in the past. Doing stupid shit in school could have gotten me labeled as a loser with no hope in life! How could a kid end up with that responsibility? Well we all have it. No matter the age.
Hardships are replaced with others, but the only way to go is forward. Keep fighting the good fight!
@@collymonster that's maybe not the lesson that you wanna teach your kid
@@paulcarmi8130 so i shouldnt teach my children that they should make the most of being a child?
And it's true being an adult does suck, its kinda frowned upon to play in the mud, climb trees, play knock a door run, tig, hide and seek, floor is lava etc etc. if you do that as an adult you'd be sectioned for being mentally unstable..... being an adult is full of boring responsibilities and a whole lot less joy than it did when we were kids.
Television will still be there when you are an adult, being carefree and being able to play etc is for a very short amount of time