Herbert West VS Light Yagami (Re-Animator VS Death Note) | MULTIVERSE MATCH | S1EP13

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  • MULTIVERSE MATCH SUGGESTION FORM: docs.google.co... [leave them here!]
    GALAXY VIDEO PATREON: / galaxyvideo
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    TN Template made by Cydude [ / channel ]
    CREDITS:
    Written by: Ducko and Max
    Researched by: Max
    Episode was edited and animated by: Max
    Herbert West was voiced by Ducko
    Light Yagami was voiced by Jeffersawrus [www.castingcal...] [ / @jeffersawrus ]
    Ryuk was voiced by ScottJZim [www.castingcal...]
    Re-Animator is owned by Empire International Pictures
    Death Note is owned by Shonen Jump
    Background Effects were made by:
    DejViZ - Polski Motion Design
    VFX-Test Channel
    Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.
    MUSIC USED IN THE EPISODE:
    -02 - Main Titles - Xavier Capellas from Beyond Re-Animator
    -05 - Joseph LoDuca - Fresh Panic - The Other Side of Your Dream (Evil Dead II)
    -13 - Speedball Shoots Up - Xavier Capellas from Beyond Re-Animator
    -Army of Darkness - 13 March Of The Dead - Danny Elfman
    -Army of Darkness - 18 Skeletor - Joseph LoDuca
    -Bendy VS Cuphead Soundtrack (Ink Bendy Segment)
    -Death Note Opening 1 Instrumental (Nightmare - The World)
    -Death Note OST 1 - 02 Jiken
    -Death Note OST 1 - 07 Kodoku
    -Death Note Ost 1 - 21 Domine Kira
    -Death Note Ost 1 - 22 Teloelogy of Death
    -Death Note Ost 1 - 23 Low of Solipsism
    -Death Note Ost 1 - 25 Immanence
    -Death Note Ost 1 - 26 Dirge
    -Death Note OST I - Light's Theme
    -Dr. Reanimator - Move Your Dead Bones
    -L's theme A-Main Titles
    -Re-Animator OST Track 2
    -Reanimator Prologue & Main Title
    -Whole Being Dead Thing Pt 1 - INSTRUMENTAL w Backing Vocals

Komentáře • 141

  • @brandonfarley8279
    @brandonfarley8279 Před 3 lety +122

    Death note fans: come on,all light needs to do is get his name and boom he’s dead
    Re animator fans who read the comics:this finna be a breeze for Herbert

    • @gamemesa
      @gamemesa Před 3 lety +39

      Ngl it is refreshing to see an anime character die to a western character.. there were so many anime fans telling me "Western characters like movies or cartoons can't be as strong as anime"
      That claim is also still being used today.

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 Před rokem

      @@gamemesa
      like do you watch death battle or something?

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 Před rokem +1

      @Dbroha
      i could of said that rude question in response , but i am far to nice of person too do so.
      so I will say this your comment is welcomed and what is your thoughts on the jinx vs harley quinn death battle?

    • @chongwillson972
      @chongwillson972 Před rokem

      @Dbroha
      why?

    • @mrme.484
      @mrme.484 Před rokem

      @@gamemesa But once western comics are used they sit down at light speeds.

  • @Shanethefilmmaker
    @Shanethefilmmaker Před 3 lety +100

    I'm kinda surprised Kira would want him dead. Considering Light fears dying without establishing himself as God of the New World, I would have thought he'd want to keep West alive long enough to learn how to be immortal.

    • @phoenixwright2420
      @phoenixwright2420 Před 2 lety +23

      Herbert would revive the people that light has killed which would ruin his plans

    • @Shanethefilmmaker
      @Shanethefilmmaker Před 2 lety +18

      @@phoenixwright2420 ya but Kira fighting the undead would make him look more heroic.

    • @sussy-gussy
      @sussy-gussy Před rokem +3

      @@Shanethefilmmaker i don't think Herbert cares

  • @MultiHydralisk
    @MultiHydralisk Před 2 lety +67

    Easily my favorite part is when the hospital is in utter chaos, people are dying horribly in many ways, and Herbert West is just BOOKING IT right through everything. He genuinely doesn't care about any of it and is utterly FOCUSED on his goal.
    If that isn't perfectly in character, I don't know what is.
    XD

  • @EthanEspinell
    @EthanEspinell Před 3 lety +96

    Whoever voiced Light did an AWESOME job in this episode! Also next time is HELLA hype

  • @floatingf8783
    @floatingf8783 Před 2 lety +28

    27:35 I fucking LOVE the delivery of this line.

  • @nemesisbloodryche22
    @nemesisbloodryche22 Před 3 lety +49

    I know I hasn't been enough time to watch the video but I should definitely say it was a good episode regardless

    • @gamemesa
      @gamemesa Před 3 lety +4

      @Trent Thompson you're talkin about Ragna right? Thats not Ragna, this is Nemesis. A vs debater and Rwby reviewer.. He uses a recolored Ragna as his Avatar

  • @vwin9112
    @vwin9112 Před 3 lety +68

    Manga fans: OUR CHARACTERS ARE MORE OP THAN YOU!
    Slasher movies: hold my severed arm.

    • @natesgachaandmusicchannel1504
      @natesgachaandmusicchannel1504 Před 3 lety +7

      Non slasher movies: i would if you had cut it off

    • @trawiler1055
      @trawiler1055 Před 3 lety +2

      and slasher movie chars are the runt of fiction, most being wall-building tier

    • @N_o196
      @N_o196 Před 3 lety +5

      @@trawiler1055 most, not all. Freddy Krueger is at least universal thanks to the necronomicon giving him all his dream powers in the real world (his dream powers were strong enough to give him full control of the dream world, a universe) überjason is at least city level thanks to tanking a nuclear blast to the face, and the xenomorphs/predators have various feats across multiple sources of media that put the top tiers above building level. This isn't even considering pennywise, who's outerversal in his true form

    • @trawiler1055
      @trawiler1055 Před 3 lety +3

      @@N_o196 ah, so rare times slasher characters get above street-building, most fits that claim too.

    • @N_o196
      @N_o196 Před 3 lety +8

      @@trawiler1055 yeah, usually slashers are up against normal people so they don't have a lot of chance to flex massive power levels

  • @Rampaganimationspotato
    @Rampaganimationspotato Před 3 lety +36

    I adore that the animation is never simply a fight, it’s a story. Great work guys, keep it up

  • @LoboGuara5bruxaria
    @LoboGuara5bruxaria Před rokem +17

    Theorically, the only way I can see Light Yagami winning this match is if he wrotte something along the lines of " Hebert Cursed Blood reacted poorly with all his reagents and lit itself on fire as a result", something that could potentially bypass Hebert ressurection power since such thing would destroy his ressurective blood, and is technically well within the realm of possibility on this match with the Deathnote, as Hebert has made plenty of experimentations on himself, and the Re-animator series is all about unexpected results of his experiments on the death and chemicals.
    That all said, that would likely require Light to know before hand of Herbet's cursed blood and experimentations in the first place, and prep-time isn't normally allowed on such battles, so...

  • @kylekampford2894
    @kylekampford2894 Před 3 lety +41

    Perfect for October/Halloween. The voice acting was good, the analysis was good, and the battle itself was really entertaining. Going into this I knew Herbert would have this in the bag, but it was awesome to see Light and Herbert's ego's clash. Great work with the written dialogue too btw.

  • @nerdA_nerdbEANS_BOYnerd_offici

    Yes I think Herbert stomps but I imagine the scene where he kills Herbert but Herbert keeps coming back from the dead I imagine light would probably go all quick thinking mode and make the deaths keep Herbert away so he could stall time or get Herbert to die via a car filled with gasoline to blow up and crash macking Herbert fall off a ledge so Herbert when researched would be stuck down there so light could make it harder for Herbert to kill him but Herbert will kill light later advantualy

    • @carbonado2432
      @carbonado2432 Před 7 měsíci +2

      in a deleted scene, herbert west has injected himself with his re-agent, while alive, to stay awake as a performance enhancer, its used as an explanation for how he shows up for the sequel after almost certain death

  • @pieraldodiaz2868
    @pieraldodiaz2868 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Kudos for using Terrordome's sprites. Critically underrated game

  • @krimpkle7614
    @krimpkle7614 Před 3 lety +15

    Think this might be the first time I’ve clicked on a notification so fast

  • @Shimish0m
    @Shimish0m Před 3 lety +13

    This episode was really good

  • @tomiandresdaroldberlincour2988

    Herbert West vs. Light Yagami (Re-Animator vs. Death Note)

  • @ultrawarlord5656
    @ultrawarlord5656 Před 3 lety +13

    9:03 What If Herbert West sold his reenergised re agent to Rash al Ghoul and then he turned it into the Lazarus pit because they kind of work the same way

  • @MrTree-xo4wb
    @MrTree-xo4wb Před 3 lety +12

    This may be my new favorite multiverse match, Video game movie royals might still be ahead though

  • @itsPlasma06
    @itsPlasma06 Před 3 lety +17

    23:57
    How did Light kill that one dude without knowing his face?

  • @Shybandicoot1518
    @Shybandicoot1518 Před 3 lety +8

    Dang that was good
    Hype for the next fight
    Finally the awnser of best duck will be awnser

    • @patrickgowen324
      @patrickgowen324 Před 3 lety +2

      The answer was obvious from the start
      It’s Ducko

  • @levitation5271
    @levitation5271 Před 3 lety +7

    I really really really enjoy how these fights are written like stories.

  • @koolguy5483
    @koolguy5483 Před 3 lety +6

    Ayyyyye, my fan art was in the credits
    Great as usual and excited as hell for next time

  • @theheadlessglen
    @theheadlessglen Před 3 lety +13

    To be honest, I never thought of this match up before being a fan of both series it makes a lot of sense. While I do prefer Death Note as a whole, yeah Herbert had this in the bag with comic scaling. Matching L was rather impressive though, as L is quite capable. All in all I was pleasantly surprised.

  • @mr.e717
    @mr.e717 Před 3 lety +8

    Good video!
    Next time: Battle of the ducks, the ultimate rematch (Max has done it before if Im not mistaken). This is gonna be good (something tells me the result wont change, but Im still excited for the video)

  • @oinkers4314
    @oinkers4314 Před 3 lety +18

    Multiverse Match : Nathan Drake VS Henry Stickmin

    • @abiodunsulaiman2297
      @abiodunsulaiman2297 Před 3 lety +3

      Henry stickmin stomps

    • @2ler463
      @2ler463 Před 3 lety +1

      Why The F*** would you want that? There aren't that much connections.

    • @ultrawarlord5656
      @ultrawarlord5656 Před 3 lety +2

      @@2ler463 their both treasure stealers and masters of stealth and they both use their luck and random objects to get the job done

  • @misterj2245
    @misterj2245 Před 3 lety +6

    A good match on his own for Halloween. Though I can't wiat to see the next matchup.

  • @images9536
    @images9536 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This video is what got me into the Re-Animator fandom

  • @AlonzoTompkins
    @AlonzoTompkins Před rokem +2

    Never thought about this match up before but I’m impressed. These two play off each other really well with their gimmicks being opposites of each other.

  • @AkumaTh
    @AkumaTh Před 3 lety +5

    First, all I wanted in this episode was a reference to Move Your Dead Bones and you delivered. Thank you.
    Second, my reaction to next time...
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    That's like asking me to choose between day and night! Life and death! Pork and beans...

  • @Pbrothers07892
    @Pbrothers07892 Před rokem +2

    I think another weakness for Mr West is that he can't be brought back to life if he dies in a place where even his blood gets destroyed like trapp him in a furnace

  • @nerdA_nerdbEANS_BOYnerd_offici

    25:45
    Herbert:I can give life back
    2 minutes later uses that life stuff for killing.............ok

  • @luizhenriquepeixotovieira1493

    Multiverse Match: Spongebob Squarepants vs Gumball Watterson

  • @redaxer2908
    @redaxer2908 Před rokem +3

    One major thing this Matchup forgotten is that Light could've won by mind controlling Herbert with the 23 day rule to dump himself into the ocean, incinerate himself, or find a method Herbert knows will kill himself for good. I think Light could work but the Matchups need to be prep time based

  • @Saulgoodmas
    @Saulgoodmas Před rokem +1

    I always have to come to this matchup. This is perfect in so many ways, with the story being amazing for the battle.

  • @donttalenostory1905
    @donttalenostory1905 Před 3 lety +6

    MULTIVERSE MATCH ideas
    1.
    Erwin Caruso vs Josuke Higashikata
    (Dino Squad vs JoJo Bizarre Adventure)
    2.
    Nathan Spencer vs Misty Knight
    (Bionic Commando vs Marvel)
    3.
    Lapis Lazuli vs Flame Princess
    (Steven Universe vs Adventure Time)
    4.
    Gird vs Cyrex
    (DC Comic vs Mortal Kombat)
    5.
    Fin Fang Foom vs Destroyah
    (Marvel vs Toho Kingdom)
    6.
    Deku vs Miles Morales
    (My Hero Academia vs Marvel)
    7.
    Piccolo(DBS) vs Martian Manhunter(New 52)
    (Dragon Ball Super vs DC Comic)
    8.
    Donte vs Edward Elric
    (DmC: Devil May Cry vs Fullmetal Alchemist)
    OR
    Donte vs Hellchild
    (DmC:Devil May Cry vs Hellchild: The Unholy)
    9.
    Arbiter vs. Predator (Movie)
    (Halo vs Predator/AVP)
    10.
    Rodger Blair vs Billy Cranston (TV series only)
    (Dino Squad vs MM Power Rangers)
    11.
    Toad vs Froppy
    (Marvel vs My Hero Academia)
    12.
    Dante vs Bayonetta
    (Devil May Cry vs Bayonetta)
    13.
    Freddy Krueger vs Doctor Destiny
    (Nightmares of On Elm Street vs DC Comic)
    14.
    Master Chief vs Doomguy
    (Halo vs Doom)
    you shall not include
    1. Doom (2016) & Doom Eternal
    2. No Soul Cube
    3. No Artifact
    15.
    Kyle Rayner vs Simon the Digger
    (DC Comic vs Gurren Lagann)
    16.
    Metal Sonic (Archie) vs Zero (Games Only)
    (Sega/Archie Comics vs Mega Man X)
    17.
    Nick Ramos vs Claire Redfield
    (Dead Rising vs Resistant Evil)
    18.
    Godzilla Final Wars vs Showa/Heisei Gamera (Toho Kingdoms vs Kadokawa Picture)
    19.
    Sharktopus vs Indominus Rex
    (Sharktopus vs Jurassic world)
    20.
    Superman(Animated) vs Son Goku(DBZ)
    (DC Comic vs Dragon Ball Z)
    for Animated Superman you should include
    - DC Animated Universe
    - DC Animated Movie Universe
    - Superman: Brainiac Attack
    - Superman: Doomsday
    - Superman vs the Fatal Five
    - Superman vs the Elite
    - All-Star Superman (film)
    - Superman: Unbound
    - Superman: Man of Tomorrow
    - Superman/Batman: Public Enemies
    - Superman/Shazam: the Return of Black Adam
    - Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
    - Batman: Hush
    for DBZ Son Goku you should only include
    - Dragon Ball Z Series

  • @angelrosas3724
    @angelrosas3724 Před 11 měsíci +1

    light could write in the notebook for herbert to kill himself permanently, but yeah he loses badly.

  • @nerdA_nerdbEANS_BOYnerd_offici

    Wait why use a character that can't die re-animator was to open Herbert stomped

  • @homerunhammeryt5645
    @homerunhammeryt5645 Před 3 lety +4

    I had an idea for what this fight should have been, The Medic from tf2 vs Herbert West, tell me you would want to see that fight go down

  • @superxd664
    @superxd664 Před 3 lety +5

    Great episode also what was the music in the thumbnail fan art

  • @SuperStar-ss1pn
    @SuperStar-ss1pn Před 3 lety +3

    Also a better oppent would be probably be the night king from got

  • @scottylewis8124
    @scottylewis8124 Před 3 lety +3

    I would have loved to have seen a crossover between Jeffrey Combs and Brad Swaile.

  • @rpmblack7892
    @rpmblack7892 Před 2 lety +2

    Tbh i kinda hope this was a full story it would be cool to see them try to figure out who is who.

  • @anthonymorenosorto2743
    @anthonymorenosorto2743 Před 3 lety +3

    What if light controlled him if he found out his name after he knew he couldn’t kill him he could control him to finding a cure to his immune blood

    • @anthonymorenosorto2743
      @anthonymorenosorto2743 Před 3 lety

      @Joshua Hughes I’ll give you that

    • @phoenixwright2420
      @phoenixwright2420 Před 2 lety +2

      Even herbert himself doesn't know how to undo the demon's curse on his blood so i don't think that would work

  • @aquadaily997
    @aquadaily997 Před 3 lety

    Found my new favorite CZcamsr

  • @Won800_Edits
    @Won800_Edits Před 11 měsíci +1

    herbert with the death note would be something alse

  • @NoelTGKOffical
    @NoelTGKOffical Před 11 měsíci +1

    Alternate Title:Herbert West Vs Light Yagami (Empire International Pictures Vs Shonen Jump) | MUTIVERSE MATCHUP | S1EP13

  • @natesgachaandmusicchannel1504

    How light could win
    Light:Draws in death note
    "Herbert west death by thanos snap"
    Herbert west:i shouldve shot him instead

  • @christopherwiley3531
    @christopherwiley3531 Před rokem

    This episode is a masterpiece

  • @doctorspindash2.086
    @doctorspindash2.086 Před 3 lety +3

    13:52 wtf!

  • @Chromaray
    @Chromaray Před 3 lety

    This was GREAT

  • @korvinandthecartooncharact8311
    @korvinandthecartooncharact8311 Před 8 měsíci +2

    At 31:33 what's the name of the song?

  • @dlm292
    @dlm292 Před 2 lety +1

    I love this episode but my preferred for Light is Walter White because of not only the connections but also Walter White killing an anime character is so funny to me

  • @Amsosorryscotty
    @Amsosorryscotty Před 11 měsíci

    These guys be impressed by someone just destroying a wall.
    So we got
    - wall level
    - building level
    - star level,
    And one that I made up.
    -god level

  • @julixgamer2663
    @julixgamer2663 Před 3 lety

    Esta batalla esta genial buen video XD

  • @user-jx1th8jz6y
    @user-jx1th8jz6y Před 22 dny

    Couldnt you just write down "herbert west dies by standing in place ford eternity"

  • @acordybs
    @acordybs Před 2 lety

    It´s strange BUT I LOVE IT

  • @alejandrohernandeztoribio6022

    Hey can you help me? Where Can I the herbert sprites?

    • @Shanethefilmmaker
      @Shanethefilmmaker Před 3 lety

      The sprites were taken from Terrordome: Rise of the Boogeyman. A fanbased game that pits Herbert West against other horror villains.

  • @stalememes6162
    @stalememes6162 Před 3 lety +10

    Ah, yes, Light’s worst weakness
    Imagay

  • @Dwood777
    @Dwood777 Před 3 lety +3

    Light isnt really fit for standard vs shows. A galaxy grudge match would be better

  • @Chromaray
    @Chromaray Před 3 lety

    Do you do requests? you Might like Tall Man vs Pinhead. I love the horror themed match ups!

  • @masonwalsh3546
    @masonwalsh3546 Před 8 měsíci

    Horror anime vs A horror movie

  • @SuperStar-ss1pn
    @SuperStar-ss1pn Před 3 lety +1

    The only version of light that could win is light tunner who can kill with a sudo name and also light turner has a gun as well

    • @SuperStar-ss1pn
      @SuperStar-ss1pn Před 3 lety

      @Joshua Hughes well the death note in that version would probably end up destroying herbert's head killing him instantly if you don't recall the later scene
      Or hell ryuke can easily tear him apart

    • @SuperStar-ss1pn
      @SuperStar-ss1pn Před 3 lety

      @Joshua Hughes I mean if you want to get technical I'd be a tie

    • @SuperStar-ss1pn
      @SuperStar-ss1pn Před 3 lety

      @Joshua Hughes but in the majority of circumstances this is easily fixed by the fact that light tunners ryuke can simply counteract that by ya know cutting him in half
      I doubt he can just put himself back together

  • @thegrandxbunny2073
    @thegrandxbunny2073 Před rokem

    Light: Knock that off.
    West reviving people: Cry about it lmao.

  • @brandonfarley8279
    @brandonfarley8279 Před 3 lety +2

    23:22 song

  • @tanjilachowdhury8736
    @tanjilachowdhury8736 Před 6 měsíci

    When is SpongeBob vs Ronald

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 Před 3 lety

    Wait there are re:animator comics

  • @sonicboomman9850
    @sonicboomman9850 Před 3 lety

    is the herbert west sprite from terrordome?

  • @Studio-ur2ud
    @Studio-ur2ud Před 3 lety +7

    Guess imagaY tghiL couldn’t ANIMATE a win this time!
    West was sHERBERT on a WRITTEN-in-blood victory!
    *I apologize for this*

    • @doctorspindash2.086
      @doctorspindash2.086 Před 3 lety +1

      you have to apologize for good pun

    • @ultrawarlord5656
      @ultrawarlord5656 Před 3 lety +2

      Studio 8558 if this was Death Battle, Boomstick should be proud of you

    • @ultrawarlord5656
      @ultrawarlord5656 Před 3 lety +1

      Joshua Hughes no I feel like boomstick only dislike wiz’s puns because he’s a nerd and he think nerd puns aren’t funny

  • @Z34LX
    @Z34LX Před 2 lety

    Herbert west was blonde in the book

  • @duncananderson2113
    @duncananderson2113 Před 3 lety +1

    Ok do you not like anime characters or something ?! Because every anime character who has appeared in your VS videos LOOSES

    • @duncananderson2113
      @duncananderson2113 Před 3 lety +1

      @Joshua Hughes sorry it's just most of time anime characters have lost fights on this show.

    • @koolguy5483
      @koolguy5483 Před 3 lety +3

      Plenty of anime characters have won on galaxy video
      Korosensei
      Stain

    • @EmperorRaidou6846
      @EmperorRaidou6846 Před 3 lety

      @Duncan anderson anime characters have won on galaxy video. Korosensei and Stain

  • @nerdA_nerdbEANS_BOYnerd_offici

    Ryuk vs Beetle juice plzzzzzzzzz

  • @nerdA_nerdbEANS_BOYnerd_offici

    Wait you did not talk about ryuk feats enough he grabbed a bullet and can't die

  • @images9536
    @images9536 Před rokem +1

    Gay vs Homophobic

  • @nerdA_nerdbEANS_BOYnerd_offici

    Wait doesn't light scale to ryuk

  • @Vince4764
    @Vince4764 Před 3 lety

    SONIC THE HEDGEHOG VS KIRBY (NINTENDO VS SEGA)

  • @user-fr7hp8rh9n
    @user-fr7hp8rh9n Před 7 měsíci

    Herbet west create zombies

  • @TheOvervoid
    @TheOvervoid Před 3 lety +1

    Herbert is op

    • @Shanethefilmmaker
      @Shanethefilmmaker Před 3 lety +3

      He was OP in his original movies. It doesn't surprise me that Light couldn't kill him so easily.

  • @adrianasabode1583
    @adrianasabode1583 Před 3 lety

    periodt herbert

  • @doctorspindash2.086
    @doctorspindash2.086 Před 3 lety +1

    Next time A Duck wins

  • @monkeydgerluffy3000
    @monkeydgerluffy3000 Před 3 lety

    Scott pilgrim vs jake long
    You video planes ❤🙏🏻

  • @ivanramon7242
    @ivanramon7242 Před 2 lety

    Where is it an evil birthdays House At The Dad which franchise what when where is it an eval or house of the dead all the retina resident evils park on part to part a part for birthdays Health update Dad order franchise

  • @user-fr7hp8rh9n
    @user-fr7hp8rh9n Před 7 měsíci

    Their zombies

  • @cringeymarshmallo7323
    @cringeymarshmallo7323 Před 3 lety

    3th

  • @aprilmorgan3936
    @aprilmorgan3936 Před 3 lety

    You are rong

  • @TheBatIsRad6436
    @TheBatIsRad6436 Před 2 lety +4

    Probably the best Halloween special of any vs show I’ve seen