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Review: Canon TS-E 90mm f/2.8L Macro Tilt-Shift
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
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In this video, RMSP Instructor Jeff McLain reviews the new Canon 90mm f/2.8L TS-E Tilt Shift Macro lens in a handful of practical studio and portrait photography situations. Long story short, this lens is a beast for certain types of photography!
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![Fuji GFX100S adapted lens testing - tilt/shift [Canon TS-E90] and lenses from the 70's.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZzkKFDYnPhc/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for taking the time to test this superb lens and share your experience. I was really keen to see the results of the product and food shots as this is precisely what I am needing this lens for, but info and reviews are so scarce. There are no rentals where I live, and ordering this with global shipping, I would want to be sure. Your explanations were great especially for someone who doesnt know about lens movements, but as a review of this lens it seemed like a preview or an intro to the actual review. It felt like a video about what you did more than what the lens really did. Sadly you discribed what you did, but hardly showed the end results of your tests. I feel this could have been more useful for myself and others if you have added just a bit more. Show with and without movements on the products. For example, you shift down so the bottle etc was straight vertically and label would be flat then you used swing to adjust the plane to label and cream, but a quick build up from without movements would have been great, then adding shift and swing progressively. What you showed was way too quick. This is only constructive criticism, keep up the good work for videos and shoots, as we can tell you work in this field. Your answers to others comments were also useful info. I am suspecting you still used stacking for the box pack shot, but as you mentioned in a comment, you would need less images than without tilt and shift. Did you decide to buy the lens finally for your work? It must be much better than a simple macro for medium sized products right?
For the box pack shot, there was zero focus-stacking. The shift and swing combined with the right amount of depth-of-field are enough to get all sides of the product sharp and standing upright. For smaller items, like watches or jewelry, there is more macro-focus involved, which means less native depth-of-field, thus more of a need for stacking images if full d.o.f is required. It all comes with "It Depends" - depends on the item, depends on the client's needs/expectations, depends on your lighting, depends on distance-to-subject, depends on what needs to be adhered to and what you can let go. You may see if there is a mail-order rental option where you live and hire the lens and have it shipped to you for a week to experiment! The theory behind the lens comes directly from older technical cameras like 8x10 and 4x5 formats, wherein we are using Scheimpflug Principles to achieve these different focal and perspective-plane corrections. This lens will solve a lot of problems that otherwise you may have to 'correct' for with software - and it is much more than just a macro lens. Just depends on how scrutinizing you or your clients are about the perspective and depth in the image. Your comments are duly noted! Thanks!
@@forestchaput Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated. Wow, no stacking for the box, great. In the past with a 180mm macro lens, I had to focus stack to capture jewellery and gem stones. As you say it depends on many factors, including distance, lighting, technical accuracy vs expectations and what is or isn't important. I use my TSE 17mm for architecture and real estate so I rarely need the tilt, but when I used it close up (with tele convertor to make it a 25mm) for architectural models, the tilt was amazingly helpful, more so than just depth of field control, but rather control of multiple things within a diagonal plane, while still deciding what was important or not as DOF is super still shallow even at F11-F16. I believe that the TSE 90 will work wonders for product and food work by having that same control. For the old TSE 90, I am glad that the tilt vs shift axis can be adjusted by the user, with great care of course. I still wish the new TSE 90L was cheaper. Again, I really thank you for put that lens through some real world tests and sharing your experience.
great review. just bought one hopefully less focus stacking
Could you compare the sharpness of the old Canon TS-E 90mm f/2.8 vs the new Canon TS-E 90mm f/2.8L?
Lensrentals has compared them and the new version is incredible. www.lensrentals.com/blog/2019/04/just-mtf-charts-perspective-control-lenses/
holy crap, I found the perfect video about this lens! I need to get a longer USB cable to tether my 5DIV to my MacBook pro too. Thanks for the reminder! I don't normally tether even when in the studio, It's something I just recently started realizing I was missing out on like " oh yea that would be pretty cool to tether"
Yay! We’re glad you liked it. Tethering is awesome. Check out Tether Tools, they make fantastic tethering products.
Excellent video. I am starting to learn macro and product photography. I was able to land a Canon 100m macro lens for a great price. And, I purchased a focusing rail for stacking. Before I buy this lens I need to learn is when to use stacking or when the tilt/shift would be better. You touched on it a little. Does it depend on how close the object is? How much I want in focus. Thank you.
wow...thanks for such precise review and packing in good insights in those 9 min ! ( Just that background audio track was distracting a bit )
Im deciding between this lens with extension tubes or the 180MM 3.5 with the Novoflex Balpro T/S bellows now
Very nice presentation. I'm a Nikon shooter and I know that Nikon makes an 85mm T/S lens with a.5 magnification factor. I was wondering what your opinion would be if I were shooting rings and watches if the DOF would work as well as focus stacking with such small products? Thanks.
Even with a T/S lens, very small items such as rings and watches will involve focus stacking to get the most d.o.f. T/S alone - pretty good, Focus Stacking alone - pretty good. Both together - phenomenal, especially if you research the sharpest aperture of that lens and stick to that. With a non-T/S lens, you'd likely have more captures to stack as you focus through the object - with a T/S lens, there would likely be less to stack because you can tilt into your d.o.f. range more, eliminating possible missed areas when you go to stack. If you discover f/8 is the sharpest aperture for the lens, it would take running tests to determine on a given object, if f/16 vs f/11 vs f/8 using T/S and stacking, which will achieve the best balance between d.o.f, amount of frames to stack, and sharpness. A test worth exploring is you shoot rings and watches a lot.
Thank you.
I have a large tilt swing knob!
Awesome video! I've been doing mainly food and product shoots lately and would love to play with tilt-shift. So will this get more focused depth; for example, a sandwich on a plate. I'm trying to get focus from the front to the back. I've been shooting with a 100mm with strobes, even at f/11-14, the front and back of the subject gets a bit too soft for the clean, sharp beauty shots i'm going for. Will the TS lens help that? Thx!
In general, utilizing the scheimpflug principle for the focal plane will get you more sharpness from front-to-back, however, the longer the lens the less depth of field you will have. If you need the front-to-back of a sandwich plate to be tack sharp you'd have more luck with the 50TS than the 90TS. Just depends on how critically sharp you need the back area as compared to other areas. Ultimately, with true technical photography like this, there is no substitute for a technical camera such as a 4x5 or even the medium format version like a Linhof 679. Those types of cameras give you greater control over being able to swing, tilt, shift, rise and fall all at the same time - on perspective AND focal planes. TS lenses only give you rise/fall and tilt or rise/fall and swing, but not all the options at once. Rent the 50 and test it with your particular situation!
@@forestchaput Very nice intro to this T/S lens! As a Fujifilm X-System photographer, unfortunately, Fujifilm doesn't make a T/S lens. However, I found a great workaround, in a technique called "Focus Stacking". I basically use the superbly sharp Fujinon XF80 f/2.8 Macro lens with my X-T3 on a solid tripod, good lighting, and simply manually focus on each and every point of the subject that I want sharp. Depending on the subject, this could result in 30 or more images. I then use Affinity Photo and Photoshop to stitch the images together, creating a file with superb pin-sharpness across the frame, or wherever I need it! (Of course, this technique is only applicable to still life (or perhaps landscapes with no movement). Thanks again!
With this new 90mm, you can now rotate tilt & shift seperately, and also rotate the axis partially so you can tilt and swing while using shift/rise/fall right?
I am looking into the old TSE90mm for the price and quality, but this free axis rotation would be missing. Which lens do you have?
Which program do you have on your computer?
It’s called Capture One Pro!
@@forestchaput thank you 👍👍👍
Capture One Pro is also great for tethering. Worked with it for years, love the image quality and the tool set.
@@simonfuller76 👍
Nice video.
Thanks!
This lens costs almost $3000
It is expensive but you can get the older 90mm TS for much cheaper and it's almost just as good 👍
@@forestchaput This looks like a really cool lens, but I am just starting out with experimenting with Photography, I am particularly having fun with Macro photograph. But I don't think I am quite ready to spend this sort of money yet!