Why They Dug a $1BN Hole Under Paris
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- Paris' $1.5BN cleanup plan is in-seine.
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Yes.
Unless they're going to shove Paris into the hole, it's not solving the problem.
04:24 "Measuring 50M wide and 34M deep", the diagram on screen shows the hole to be 34M wide and 50M deep.
Guys, E.Coli is not dangerous. It is an indicator of fecal dangerous bacteria, but by itself it will maybe cause some diarrhea, if in large quantities. So... you have a mistake in the first 30 seconds.
Amserdam is already save to swim in.
Im sitll alive.
4:33 - if only there was a well known landmark in paris to use for scale. 🤔
Haha! That was for the Americans. It fairness it was a gift from the French 😅
my thoughts exactly ! 🗼
@@TheB1M actually there is one in Paris, and it's right in the middle of the Seine. The south western end of the Ile aux Cygnes is where the Statute of Liberty can be found in Paris. It's one quarter the size of the Ellis Island version.
The Statue of Liberty was built in France by a French architect before being transported across the Atlantic and given as a gift to the fledgling United States. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using it here. Interestingly the same man contributed to both iconic structures: the Statue of Liberty and the one to which you're obviously referring.
@@kma3647 Overthinking a joke....
What an in-seine project
STOOOOOOP
Don’t … just … don’t
lol get out
No just no
damn it Fred! (not the seine, just you ^^)
Insane. It's normal to swim in any river in Switzerland now but many were dangerous 50 years ago.
how did your country fix their polution problems? :)
London and paris have always been useless and oudated with habdling their rivers. Eg Stockholm you can see people swimming/fish etc. Even drink the water without getting e.coil like 3rd world london/paris
@@stokedd A lot of gold from unspecified people.
@@stokedd we implemented sewage water treatment plants on one hand (had the biggest effect), and we had a deindustrialization as labor costs were simply too high. Offices and services simply do not have the same amount of waste water.
I have seen pictures and videos of people in Bern, the national capital city, wearing waterproof covers over their work clothes and swimming across the river Aare, which flows through the city, when going home after work in summer to avoid a detour through the bridges.
I don't know if the Seine will be completely clean but already with a 90% reduction in pollutants it seems to be on the right track and then in terms of gigantic engineering France has been one of the leaders for centuries.
(see the construction of the Canal du Midi under Louis XIV).
They also have that big tower with all the lights on it that people seem to like 😅
Thanks! I didn't know about that one. Everyone knows about the Panama and Suez, of course. It's easier to build canals when you have a monarchy that can say: put it here than it is in the current environment.
@@mikemurphy5898don't worry it's only a temporary tower it won't be up long!
@@hairyairey Will people feel the same way about the Montparnasse Tower in 50 years ?
@@noefillon1749 I think that's the one where I have heard it commented that the best view of Paris is from it - as you can't see it! It's possible I suppose.
£99 for a water bottle? Someone is in seine for sure.
That´s the evil capitalism for you.
@@PROVOCATEURSKThose bozo's are also pretending to be giving to charities too.
Russians haters can't stop trolling with their dumb takes
Ahahaha in Seine = insane
@@PROVOCATEURSK
That’s why I refuse to buy it. Lots of much lower cost options and that is capitalism!!!
So many good news coming out of Paris recently in terms of improving their infrastructure for the people. :)
yes and no... With the Olympics most people can't afford their rent so it's only the rich who are going to enjoy that...
Bed Bugs? Really
While they persecute farmers.
@@matthiasdarrington3271 Affordable rents are absolutely a big issue that needs to be addressed. But a clean river, and the much improved cycling infrastructure, etc. are things all people can enjoy.
It's complicated. There will be scandals during this summer's Olympics, keep your eyes and ears open.
Zurich's clean up is so successful thst I wasn't aware there ever was one. Swimming in the Limmat is possible at many different great locations. Furthermore the lake has also many access points and Zurich doesn't disappoint in the giant amount of public swimming pools both openair and covered
I'm a Parisian. I am HIGHLY SKEPTICAL. I also love the idea of 26 swimming pools... as long as the water is NOT directly taken from the Seine, but filtered first. No matter how much they'll say the water is safe. And the swimming pools better have super-strong walls in case a 50m long and many many tons heavy freight barge suddenly... well, barges in.
Ça tiendra jamais 😂 je suis sûr elles vont fermé plus vite que prevu
J'ai du mal à imaginer comment ils peuvent réussir à ôter toutes la merde de la Seine alors qu'ils ne sont même pas fichus de veiller à ce que des passagers ne trouvent pas d'étron sur leur siège de RER.
There's a lot of bullshit info being thrown around trying to scare people off when it comes to the quality of the Seine water.
Let's just say some gain to benefit from the olympics turning into a fiasco.
bah le pire s'est qu'on se tape des sècheresse tous les ans maintenant, est que le niveau de la seine baisse énormément, Ducoup, la piscine marche pas a par si elle pompe le peu d'eau qu'il y a non stop pour garder le niveaux,
presque si il on démarrer les travaux en été durant la sècheresse (je pense pas) sa veux dire quelle sera totalement submerger quant l'eau monte,
et si il la construise en automne/hiver bah Ducoup en été quant les gens voudront y aller il pourront pas vu que le niveaux de l'eau sera si bas que toute les piscine seront sèche ou des pédiluve.
ducoup pour faire croire quil ont nettoyer la seine, il vont utiliser de l"eau d'ailleur a un moment ou tous le monde et rationer,
tous sa pour des piscine quasi gelee, puisque la seine coule en continue, leau ne peu pas se rechauffer et va rester trop froide pour se beigner,.
donc il vont devoir alimenter les 26 piscine et les peu etre chauffer, se qui va couter une blinde pour une piscine ou 90% de la population n'iront pas parsque il non pas confiance en l"eau
"No matter how much they'll say the water is safe." Genuinely curious - What will it take for you to consider it safe?
Both the Marne and Oise rivers flow INTO the Seine - the Marne just before the Seine enters Paris, the Oise (pronounced "wahss") just after it exits the city. So, I don't understand how cleaning up the Seine will make them cleaner as well.
local here, good point you made, but it's pronounced "waz" :> the "s" is single and surrounded by voyels therefore soft.
there's no way that brits actually say "feeshal", that's got to be a joke, right? 😂😂
No we don't....people who read from a script.tend to fuck up
Yeah no idea why he said it like that def not how brits say it tho
Still better than the Yanks blushing at "poop"
Even Americans don’t say it that way
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Ha ha! Merde alors !
@TheB1M 4:26 you got the dimensions mixed up
sacré bleu
@@TheB1M Heretic.
@TheB1M and The Statue of Liberty is 151 feet tall, so it fits. Unless you mean the entire structure at 305 feet, then it's twice as tall. Wiki is my source.
@@greymoonz1tell the inquisition aboit it 😂 may the emperor protect 😊
@@donc-m4900 He included most of the pedestal of the statue in the drawing, so that's over 200 feet tall.
actually Amsterdam has a;ready come a long way in cleaning the canals. Even the queen has already swam there several times during a charity ecent against cancer. They achieved this cleaning operationby flushing the canals in a process where they closed several sluses and pumped in "clean" lake water on one side in order to flush out the polluted water. Meanwhile, they made a great effort to "fish" scrap metal and other waste out of the canals with 3 boats working 40hrs/week
Oh noooo! There goes the magnet fishing for Leigh, of Bondi Treasure Hunter.😉
It can’t be metal clean in Amsterdam since there are dozens of bikes being dumped everyday! My wife is Dutch, last thing she will do is swim in any Amsterdam canals. And I’m French so I’ll tell you to never ever swim in the Seine, this is an absolute madness.
Politicians do have a habit of overpromising as you mentioned, but it looks like they might succeed. Nothing like having the whole world watching and the billions of euros that an event like the Olympics generates to get them to finally move forward. My only question is, can they keep it going or will people again start using it as an open air waste disposal site and it be allowed to slip back into the polluted past?
Of course politicians have this bad habit to not keep their promises. On the other hand people aren't responsible of the pollution in the Seine, they don't use it as an open waste disposal, the vehicles thrown into the Seine are borderline criminal activities.
The fecal matter present in the Seine happens because of the sewer system which is too old, it's one of the world first system built in the 19th century.
The main problem is that it's connected directly with the rainwater system. To solve this there are two parallel efforts, the separation of the 2 systems, and the creation of security tanks to collect rainwater in case it rains too much, so the rainwater wouldn't be evacuated into the sewer system and overflow into the Seine.
The heavy costs are an investment, a useful one on the long term if the Seine river stays clean after the olympic games. Only a big flooding would pollute it again I guess.
Construction projects for Olympic games and other big international sports events have a dubious history when it comes to quality and finishing them on time, but the French seem to be on track with this one. Not having a backup plan is certainly a bold move...
What if it rains prior to the events? Everything on the streets will end up in the river. Not a good plan. If I were a swimmer I would not be happy about this.
@@DanTheisen The video is talking exactly of this scenario, watch it again and pay attention
easy to keep promises when the money you spent isnt yours
if they dont steal to much it, the project should be easy to achieve
"The Seine is heavily polluted with high levels of wastewater, sewage and faecal matter." - Thames Water shrugs
"Swimming in the river puts you at risk of contracting E. coli and incurs €15" - Thames Water, 'Can we charge people to swim in sh*t?'
The thames has been significantly improved. It used to be considered ecologically dead.
Tideway Tunnel operational 2025
@@Hjernespreng it was during the EU era, since brexit the norms have fallen and the quality is rapidly falling again
Meanwhile in Cleveland the Cuyahoga River is still catching on fire.
@rocketdoggo *citation needed*
French here. Very good reporting. Just a few mistakes:
- The pool's name Bassin de la Villette is pronounced /veelett/, not /veeliett/.
- The Oise river is pronounced /was/, not /oyz/.
- About the hole being dug at Austerlitz, your numbers are mixed up on screen, showing 34 m wide and 50 m high (yet you say the opposite, so I think your graph is wrong)
Finally, most Parisians don't like to take a dip in the Seine because the current is extremely strong and because the boat and barge traffic is very heavy. It's just too risky to swim in it outside of these official pools.
"Feeshul matter" lol
I hope you get over it. Seems serious
Facial 😂😂😂
In Copenhagen we have several harbor swimming areas and it’s such a life saver during a hot summer. It’s going to be great for the Parisians! 👍
Nothing’s ever certain. If they pull this off, it’ll be nothing short of a miracle.
There are difficulties like geographical location. But the main problem will always be people.
Or politicians, I mean think of Boris Johnson, dumping poopoo and piss in every British river! I doubt Brits would have rrelected the Toris if they had prior knowledge.@@Belaziraf
These are the kinds of projects we need. Kudos for the efforts!
I love that the French are using the Olympics to actually improve Paris instead of just dumping money on building stuff they don't need later
A lot of cities use it as a reason to build long-overdue mass transit projects as well.
Every host city does that.
It's almost never helpful to host the Olympics, look at all the stats, isn't Greece still paying off their debts and it crippled their non exisentant economy for decades?@@martinc.720
that's just the Mayor's propaganda, nothing will be "improved" for the Parisians. Quite the opposite.
@@jarnix2 the RER E to the west, the CDG Express, as well as the Grand Paris Express' many metro lines and extensions (even if they will not all be ready), were all part of the Olympic project: do you believe these projects will make life worse? Or are you crying because Hidalgo taxes your SUV parking spot? Or because you can't cope with the popular success of the bike infrastructure?
Love your content but my god do you always pick some of the worst sponsors. If it isn't Masterworks it's now a glorified £100 water bottle with dubious 'self cleaning' claims? Stick to the VPN's, e learning etc mate.
Just use sponsorblock
The statement near the end is weird. Zurich didn't clean up its river. The river is fed from the lake Zurich and was never dirty to begin with
Switzerland water was among the worst 60 years ago. Excellent sewage treatment systems did the trick for them. It wasn't easy. Def serves as a modern model.
The other 2 rivers mentioned flow into the Seine. How will they be cleaner?
Yeah, in fact they're cleaning up the Marne to help clean up the Seine, not the other way around. (Around my way there's a big operation to check everybody's wastewater and rain water connections to make sure they're correctly set up -- we have two sewer systems, one for EU ("Eau Usée" -- wastewater, i.e. shit) and one for EP -- ("Eau de Pluie, i.e. rainwater) to make sure that storms don't flood the Marne with sewage).
L'Oise(pronounced "waws" approximately) is downstream so it doesn't matter for what they are trying to do.
@@nedludd7622 More like "lwas".
Yeh that confused me too - as I understood the Loire to flow westwards.
The fuck ? It's pronounced "feekal" matter not "feeshal" lol
Facial matter 🙄
it's pronounced "dookie butter" 💩 🧈 actually
Don't get me started. Did you hear the way innovative was pronounced? How about precedent? Down-right confounding .
@@carmellacandy509 Indubitably!
That was driving me crazy too. They also mixed up the width and depth of the tank.. 4:24
Los Angeles only has rivers when it rains. They can keep those clean with a street sweeper. 😁😁
Exactly. It seems some LA bureaucrats wanted a free Euro vacation.
Not to mention none of the la Olympic events take place in a river
LA river has water year round, but it is literally bedded in a concrete 'sewer pipe'. There are clean up plans to restore a natural flow of the river. the concrete bankings will be taken away and a more natural embankment restored ...
Along the river should recreational green zone created, with walk and bike paths ..
Paris is really going for it. Lots of big projects aimed at improving the city 💪🇫🇷🍾🥂
4:25 measuring 50 meter wide 34 meters deep
is it not the other way around xD
Thanks Captain Obvious!
Not sure if it's being mentioned yet, but at the 4min30sec mark, the basin is noted as being as 50m wide and 34m deep, but the picture looks like the reverse (ie. 50m deep and 34m wide). Apologies if I'm hearing/watching this wrong, but am I?
I wonder how many bodies they found/will find before the clean up is done.
If the dutch could do it (even queen maxima swam in it after the cleanup) then the french should be able to as well...
Amazing content as always!
Would love to see some content on the Italian Tortona-Genoa high-speed railway, also known as Third Pass!
It's a €7 billion project connecting the two northern cities of Genoa and Turin with a line 53 km long (of which 36km of tunnels)
But for the 11 million people, I'd say the Emscher in Germany proves you can fix a river in a megacity... That one took 1992 - 2022 to run a secondary river for waste water below the river, though.
...and while Berlin *would* be arrogant enough to need to look at Paris instead of the Ruhr area, I think 30 years of actual progress motivate them more than Paris building an overflow valve.
It’s fecal, fecal, not feshal 😂
I hope you get over it. Seems serious.
It's a load of shit. 💩🇬🇧🙃
I’m french and currently live in Paris. I will NOT swim in the Seine, at least not now. And I’m not the only one thinking that.
I can understand this easily: I'm British (N'est par choix! 🇪🇺❤🔥) and live near to London. I would *not* want to swim in the Thames when knowing that it's condition got so bad at one point even a _Conservative_ government awarded funds for the construction of a municipal sewerage system... 💩🇬🇧😳
Yes, not now, it’s too cold in march 😛
Thanks for the video, interesting.
Greetings from France
I had heard about the effort on the News, but not how France planned to make it happen. Now I know! Thanks, B1M.
Fee-cal not fee-shal
I hope you get over it. Your condition seems serious.
Hilarious! The computerized narrator speaks "faecal matter" as "facial water."
Always nice to see picture’s from Copenhagen as a good example
Great Video! but one problem in 4.35 you say 34m deep and 50m wide but the diagram shows it the opposite way
Your late B1m. Paris as all ready anounced, about a month ago, that they have given up to do any swiming event in the Scene for the Olympicsgames. .
In "fecal" the "c" is hard and not an sss sound. Not an episode of the B1M goes by without vocabulary being misused or abused
I hope you get over. Seems serious.
90% reduction in polution in what relationi? Since last year?
Very enjoyable as always 👍
11million people ? I think youre confusing the Paris region (which extends faaar beyond the actual
City) with the actual city
I frequentely hear about "France is not just Paris" but have never seen France being "Just Clermont-Ferrand" at 1:25 lol
When in Paris, always remember that *Île de France* is _metaphorical,_ not physical! 😉
at 4:25 - this might be minor, but the visual states 34m wide and 50m deep but the voiceover mentions 50m wide and 34m deep. not sure which height scale works with the statue
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Facebook won’t let me share. I think it’s due to the hole reference. 🤷🏽♂️ Also, it’s FEE- kuhl, not FEE-shuhl.
About the latter:
Your conditions seems serious, I hope you get over it.
As a Parisian, I've been taking the metro on the bridge over the hole twice a day for 3 years now. I'm only now learning what this weird construction site is all about thanks to this video... so thanks a lot haha
Video on the pasig river project please
Was gonna buy Lara bottle but apparently they break easily, especially the cap. I’ve had the same water bottle for three years, I wouldn’t want something I need to replace frequently, especially at that price.
@TheB1M - 2 vid ideas: Wellington NZ's traffic situation and the Wirral Waters scheme (likely to be the future Salford Quays of Liverpool).
Which do we think it is? Is it a wide 50m x 34m pool and the graphic is wrong or is it a deep 50m x 34m pool and the voiceover is wrong?
I'm unsure, feels like pumping a deeper pool is more difficult but a wider pool takes more space. Hm?
As a British person, I feel that it is my civic duty to throw even more chaos into the mix... 🙃🇬🇧😉
I think you'll find that the „correct“ dimensions for that tank are: 164ft deep by 111ft 6in across. 😋
(Notes: Not to: Scale. Normal system of measurement: Metric. If in doubt: Panic... 💩)
I was riding my velib and asked myself what is actually this huge construction site near Gare d'Austerlitz. Now I know. Thanks.
We have two of these in Toronto. Helps to reduce fecal matter getting into Toronto beaches.
*feeshal matter 😂
Please look at river Pinheiros in São Paulo. They’ve been trying to clean the river for years. Also, there’s a cople case studies in Seoul. Maybe videos on these other examples might be good to compare.
In Singapore, the Singapore River was cleaned up when Singapore became independent. The river now feeds into a reservoir, converted by enclosing the water basin with reclaimed land and a barrage separating the water body from the open sea.
Vienna had this problems a long time ago. But since then it is normal for as to swimm in "der alten Donau" old danube. Except after heavy rain.
I pass nearly every day for 3 years at Gare d'Austerlitz and i didn't know what they were doing with this construction.
Thanks Man.😂
Fecal has a hard C in American 😂
It also does in proper English.
I thought the word „shit“ was pronounced the same way on *both* sides of the Atlantic? 🙃
@@dieseldragon6756 it's pronounced with two Es in America, depending on how bad it is.
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Auckland has been doing something really similar, checkout the Central Interceptor being made by WaterCare.
What a fantastic project. I hope more large cities follow suit.
the dyslexia at 4:30 is spot on :D
4:30 50m wide and 34m deep, not quite like in the graphic.
He managed to accommodate the sponsor and main topic together to make them relevant very clever
The Whaam Baam Teslacam music threw me there 😂
It's probably just a coincidence.
similar solution to Japan's flooding problem but what took them take so long to implement the reservoir solution. Politics probably. I mean it's just a super large tank to catch the run off and then release it slowly so it doesn't flood the river. I'm sure French Engineers had suggested this a long time ago. It's now that there's Olympicsthat the poop matters. IN my country the most recent and modern rail system was built in 2010 to help foreigners move between Football stadiums for world cup. There was no development of public transport before and after the world cup. we still don't have trains
Yeah unfortunately this happens all the time. Tons of prep for the games and then nothing after. The game are supposed to have a huge economic impact on the host city but it just goes to the rich.
Will You, The B1M, have a look, and make a video on the Copenhagen Metro, and the Private/Public-Partnership with the somewhat privatized company “Havn og By”(Harbour and City)?
I live in Copenhagen, close to the Metro, so it would be interesting to watch Your take on the issues🇩🇰😀
The talk over says 50m wide by 34 m tall yet the diagram shows the opposite. Assuming it is 50m wide by 34 m tall it would hold the equivalent of a 0.64mm rainfall over the the 105 km2 area of Paris. Not sure that is going to help.
4:26 you said that backwards... oh noes
It sounds like Paris has a combined sewer.
It would be interesting to know what would be involved to separate it into 2 systems (sanitary and run-off).
I wonder how difficult is to reorient runoff from the rain to the tank ?
Then, all the network might be considered as a tank to help the downstream treatment, right ?
It’s a shame there was no mention of Tideway London, a 25km Super Sewer under the Thames to intercept sewage. It was approved in 2022 and should be completed in 2025.
Lake Ontario is a great example of how dedicated work over decades can restore a body of water. It used to be massively polluted thanks to all of the industry, and now is way cleaner and very safe to swim in,
During the 1900 olimpics, the river Seine was filthy. The city dumped over 2,715,000 people waste water into the river. There weren't any sewage treatment plants, neither water quality analysis. So, let's hope that they improve the quality of the water behond the threshold of 1900.
4:30 the voiceover contradicts the on screen measurements.
If I were an Olympic swimmer, I'd be a bit concerned that the officials are more worried about forcing the events to be in the river instead of mentioning anything about "as long as it's safe for the swimmers' health." Maybe the newspaper took the quotes out of context.
I’d like to see this as a more detailed on-site evaluation prior to the Olympics. Would be quite a statement to see Fred jump in.
I really hope they succeed. They can become a template for other countries.
another very interesting video!!!!
Living in France, the plans to have the Olympics in the Seine have been cancelled months ago because cleaning it was impossible for that time, an olympic pools was built but too small so they are building another one in a stadium ...
Fun fact : the river flowing through Paris should be called the "Yonne" !
Because where the "Seine" and the "Yonne" cross in the city of Montereau-Fault-Yonne. The "Yonne" river has a greater water flow. Bit historically they couldn't get a precise measurement and it just so, stayed like that.
(For those who wonder the Seine has a 80 cubic meter/ second and the Yonne has a 93m³/s flowing rate.)
This will be a nice Seine-terpiece for Paris 😂
I am French and I learned about this work via a video created abroad.
Je suis français et je prends connaissance de ces travaux via une vidéo créé à l'étranger.
same
Thank you.
As there is only 4 months left to the games, I don't see how they will archive a big improvement.
I wouldn't dip a toe into that thing.
When I was the title, Paris' Dirty Secret, I thought ooh la la.
I was disappointed but I did learn someone.
seems that the basis measurements were flipped around lol
50m wide and 34m deep?
4:25 ERROR - Measurements (narration) and sketch are backwards.
34m wide and 50m deep. or 50m wide and 34m deep?? @ 4:25
Honestly sounds impossible but I’m intrigued!
Is not impossible, we heave all we need to make it possible, safe and inspirational for others 🎉😊
What 4:33 dimensions again?
Nice! Even when not taking advantage of it, I believe that living in a city where you could go swimming in a river if you wanted to, will raise the subjective quality of life.
Thanks 😊
They are on the right track ! Finished or not!
Seattle doesn't care about the Puget sound either.😢
How strange that sewage and storm water are not separated. Digging up the streets would be a major problem to separate the two. Diverting storm water will not really help much.
The overflow is not separated... look again. Same problem exists in Great Britain, and other European countries.
This is common in older areas of most North American cities, and it's the long term plan in many places to separate sewers, but it's a massive and expensive effort that will take decades. I'd be surprised if no EU cities had combined sewers in older areas.
They are among the older " modern " sewage system , engineering have evolved a lot, climate change have altered old construction efficiency, overpopulation were not necessary planned, and many other factor wasn't planned at this time etc