@@fufuman27 Why lie yo yourself and your ilk? Kind of silly to do, when you talk about people with elite education who were among the best in their classes, nuh? And you talk about a guy who ran a campaign for a senatecandidate or congresscandidate as a 17 year old or what it was, and almost got him elected. He knows politics. Just say you disagree with him. Don't pretend like he is not welinformed and has a sharp mind. He has been very successful at all he has done. And very blunt and efficient, which the left has recognized, so they have targeted his speaking gigs, attacked him, and they have gotten him cenceled as opinionator on MSM. And he was number 1 in political channels on this site, when he hosted the verdict with Ted Cruz. As you should know, that is a show about the inner workings in congress, and about fascism in some hearings regarding the left and their institutions they control, that controls the entire worlds narrative
@@janusgahrstre1998 I like the part where you didn't give any evidence that he isn't a hack and just proceeded to say he's an effective political pundit (because people that do well in politics never lie) and talk shit about the left.
@Mike Goodwalk The famous comedian Dave Smith put it best: He's just an authoritarian Democrat posing as a radical. Can't really knock Hasan's hustle, though. He's making big bank by catering to online tankie circles
@@snow6094 pretty good. You have the freedom to not work for a company you think is shit. If they were truly that bad, so many people wouldn’t be competing to work there. The reality is those companies offer competitive benefits, and a secure fixed wage to their employees that other companies simply cannot provide.
Hasan countered pretty well by identifying basic principles of decency and social responsibility as "radical". Instinctively I would say Michael's strategy was to mainly protect his chin while Hasan tried to pursue by cutting off the ring.
He said that public and private schools should be run the same if the public schools are a failure. Um. He just red pilled himself. You must've missed that part @16:00
@Thomas Larkin He's already been smeared for that one. That was poor wording which he apologized for. It was in the context of history and geopolitics
well both did as nice as they could, regarding the position they are representing. just one of them got the science and facts on his side. but still its a wellcome change from the "presidential" rhethoric.
I can practically guarantee you Hasan IMMEDIATELY went to Twitch to bitch to his sycophantic followers about how dumb he thinks Michael is. Because Hasan is a child.
@@emdubb1381 ??? Yes he’s a “shill” for having the EXACT SAME VIEWS all his life, despite when he made much much more money and could easily become a right wing grifter and make millions upon millions more
@@kingofgrim4761 What are you talking about? He's entitled and has those views because of his family (his uncle being Cenk). He realized young that there is money in being a shill for the left, just as there is money being a shill for the right. Hassan is a champagne socialist who lives very wealthily off capitalism but promotes socialist ideas. These kinds of people don't have any integrity.
Of course it did. The Left only uses their form of "science" to bludgeon people over the head with. The Right uses Science to make decisions for themselves.
@Old Chunk of Coal ???? You’re the ones with the burden of proof. His mask shit has been proven wrong. Hasan still has the empirical evidence showing even more that masks help, as well as most of what knowles said being debunked real time but Hasan of all people
@@tobymcgroby8967 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.
I love how Hasan is holding himself back and largely saying only things that a liberal would say, and the host, probably unaware, is kind of taking his side thinking they are on the same team.
i think he’s in favor of socialism & communism but supports democratic socialism and backed bernie when he was running bc he recognizes that revolution is nowhere near and that it is more realistic to socialize america
@@StAlchemystTrue statement Stan, just thought if in the title this was a debate it would state 'Hasan and moderator to debate Michael Knowles'...there would be a lot more hits on this...especially to see Knowles handle both with ease.
@@legendofshaunesquire3014 You have to start informing yourself before you parrot that falsehood by default about everybody. Since you can only parrot, I will do the legwork for you kiddo. The daily wire is co-owned by Shapiro and the wilks brothers, not David Koch. The wilks are not evil industrialists who wants illegal immigration to keep down wages. They are fracking billionaires who has sold themselves out, and are now philantropes who spreads the word of God, and donate money to churches. Their agenda is God and morality, judeochristian values.
Janus gahr støre if you love god shouldn’t you also love the home he gave us. Why support people who push a love of Christ to cover up for the evil things they do
I only made it a minute in before I almost lost my mind. Yes, I’m sure the big mistake is that we didn’t spend enough money during the pandemic on stupid left wing agenda items.
@Europa What Hassan said worked for basically every other country on earth including here in Canada (even adjusting per capita and looking at similar pop density regions like Toronto, Vancouver, etc). The reason it’ll never work for the Divided states of America is because you have lizard men politicians who politicized a fucking virus, so half your population is in denial complaining on alt news platforms like CZcams and the other half is over bearing and hypocritical smiling and nodding at sensationalist news reporting - eliminating any hope your country has at a reasonable solution achieved through mutual cooperation. Get vaccinated and drop lockdowns. Increase the variety of vaccines to include older more tested styles (like recombinant protein) to decrease hesitancy, and for fuck sakes get that anti-viral pill that Merck invented on the market. That’s what/will work.
@@chucknorris3752 Have you seen Australia? They followed every insane leftist policy perfectly and now it has been under essentially martial law for months. No matter what mandate or right you strip you will never see 0 covid. Take responsibility for you own health and stop asking for others to be an adult for you.
@Nathan Paske Australia has 62 deaths per million, the USA has 2400 deaths per million. Cases look even better, with a maximum of 300 per 100,000 in Victoria with five territories experiencing sub 50 per 100,000 numbers. In contrast with the USA, maximum is in North Dokata at 18,500 cases per 100,000 and 43 total states with numbers ranging between 10,000 and that maximum. I’d say those “insane leftist policies” might be at least partially responsible for this considering this per capita trend holds up even when accounting for population density.
I really liked the conversation. No over acting form either side, no one personally berates the other, nor makes a mock of themselves. This is how i want every political debate to be.
fr man, like i enjoy when both sides can respect each other and im not subconciously listening to one side based on who is being more respectful. now i can actually just listen to what they say and think for myself
conversation was great, but my goodness if michael knowles isn't convincing. facts, figures and reasonable arguments that are on topic. i have begun to notice and even on young turnks that we democrats voice our arguments in an emotional way and tend to get lost when debating ppl like knowles. i dunno... i'm beginning to cross to the right.
@@L4rceny right?! Its almost like that's how our dule-party system should work. Diverse in our opinions but able to reach bipartisanship in our decision making. People treat politics now like its the super bowl...unconditional support for their team and unconditional hatred for their opposition...Sucks big cocka
@@martianproductions997 Actually the masks are used to prevent the spread of blood and saliva based pathogens entirely, a maskj is going to do literally eff all for covid virus except kill your braincells via long term oxygen deprival and carbon monoxide poisooning, Never mind the fact that you are entirely retraining your bodies breathing function to an abnormal situation which has been found to aid the forming ofg sleep apnea as well as snoring.
Hassan is the embodiment of group think. The individual ability to think for him or herself is repressed to accommodate the group. Usually, the group narrative is controlled by those who control our mainstream science, media, education and politics which have alternative motives. That would explain why "democratic socialism" sounds like a wonderful idea to those who think like Hassan, but its a trojan horse which the federal government, central banks and corporations will have ALL the control.
Hasan is the same guy who had a shirt with the American flag and Alexandria cortez on it as if she was America's hero When aoc does nothing but talk shit about it So he's not very smart
@@Taylor_5724 @Taylor let's just start with his 1st line...."the government should be doing more". They're TERRIBLE at everything they do other than fight wars. They have no idea who to listen to or how to spend our money and have gone against REAL science at every step. What HAVE they done? They've ruined small businesses, created the biggest social divide in us history, forced faulty covid treatments (remdesiver/ventilators) while restricting treatments that work (ivermectin/monoclonal antibodies,etc), enforced useless mandates that ONLY created division and little protection, they never once mentioned how to keep healthy(zinc, d, c, etc), they have used and allowed EOs for political signaling on a level that will go down in history as the greatest abuse of power in our generation. They STILL use Fauci (no explanation needed). They have not done ONE thing right and he wants them do do more of what they do SO TERRIBLY. (Sorry....but that's a typical liberal for you....) His angle on every opinion is this way....just blind. All of the suffering he speaks about is BECAUSE of the governments reaction...not the virus. "Poeple are dragging this out by refusing to wear mask and social distance" BULLSHIT....thats why everyone is so pissed off! We've all been doing that stupid shit....we were forced to! Not to mention the hypocrat/democrites are the ones marching for BLM and partying at Obamas bday....the list goes on and on about their hypocrisy. The point is, their ideas are NEVER the right answer and the dems won't stop repeating the same fucking nonsense over and over, never bringing anything new to the table....just, "pick the stupidest, least scientific measures possible, force everyone to comply, ruin the economy in the process and repeat/YELL at everyone to COMPLY HARDER"....rather that THINK/debate/prove.... I'm done...I fucking hate libtards so much at this point (and I voted blue before 2020...didn't vote for Trump in 16). This not even worth it. You either see this stuff and agree or you don't and probably never will. No idea where you stand but praying you have eyes and a brain to push back against these kooks.
Your guy could just not lie every single argument he makes and the moderater would not need to correct him. You guys LITERALLY blame reality for not conforming to your demented world view.
kevin trying to politicize the cdc comments with an old statement which the cdc themselves redacted after more data came out and then he tried to challenge the data. You guys say facts over feelings but when the facts are not in your favor it’s liberal PC propaganda
R R Knowles was making an argument that the “experts” change their minds all the time and they don’t even follow their own advice. Fauci says one thing but does the other when he thinks he’s not on camera. Fauci doesn’t seem to think masks do much of anything and neither does Biden when he wears the mask dangling from his ear, not protecting anyone. As for “facts don’t care about your feelings,” I’m pretty sure that saying came as a response to “you guys” when you feel like the opposite gender that contradicts your chromosomes.
user name except they’re not? Sweden never mandated masks nor shut down. Not even Fauci is buying the scam. He doesn’t use face masks in his personal life outside the cameras.
@@Duval-In-The-Wall *People in the US seem to think it's the only country under lockdown.* No, it's not. It's happened everywhere around the world. Trump is not running in India or UK. If everyone wore a mask US could have controlled the spread loooong ago. But no, some politicians need to somehow keep their voters fired up constantly even if it means they don't wear a mask in a pandemic and jeopardize their health. Trump needs to man up, quit whining, take initiative, wear a mask and set an example. People will still vote for him in droves. No need to be crybaby. Believe in your voters and save their lives.
@@kingofgrim4761 No, but it's the hypocrisy of these people. They don't want a free and just system as they claim. They want a system where they are in power, even if they didn't earn those spots.
From the videos I watched Hasan just talks out his ass. Sounds like a high school kid. Didn’t his uncle get smacked around by Ben which gave him a way off the bench? Haha
@@yooowefsifjosidfjasda7293 well this aged well. Trump won the last debate that was irl so either way, wether it was online or offline he would’ve still won that debate imo. As for the election however, it’s all still a toss up tbh.
@@neuro1073 I disagree on him winning either debate, I think the debates were abhorrent for both of them. It's really up to the American people now on if we want to shoot ourself in the left or the right foot. Either way we're up for a rough four years
@@thebookofeli1105 As Noam Chomsky put it you have a choice between a not so great run of the mill politician or someone who with another 4 years could push the planet over the tipping point to extinction. I know who I'd be voting for if I lived in america
Found it. It's from a paper on influenza, not coronavirus. Notice that Knowles stammers at the end and says, "transmission of...viruses." The actual text reads, "transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza." I'm not a scientist or an epidemiologist, but I have to wonder why Knowles improvised that part of the text. wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
@@NewbiPai a lot of what he said particularly about lockdowns and masks have proven true multiple times over since the debate. Also, he pointed out how radical the democrat party was but were hiding it (supporting child drag shows and tween transition, congresspeople refusing to define a woman, proposed bans on 12 round pistol magazines and suggested 9mm ammunition ban etc.)
@@jeremiah5430 Congrats. You have fallen hook, line and sinker for the most meaningless and utterly irrelevant topics of the day. Not one of the things you’ve listed are worth talking nor listening about. Poverty, homelessness, unemployment, stagnating wages, debt, failing infrastructure, lack of funding in public education, gun violence; you could’ve picked any one of the hundred different important topics, yet you chose the most asinine and meaningless political hill to die on.
@@jeremiah5430 first of all child friendly drag shows are not morally wrong second of all the majority of democrats do not agree with those under the medical age of consent transitioning third of all a woman is a socially constructed set of arbitrarily decided roles expectations behaviors and appearances and lastly I disagree with the ban
@@corvonics6383 this kind of people don't realize that truth mattets otherwise we will destroy everything which has value, anyway there is not much left
The CDC came out and said that the standard masks weren't effective. Whichever side you look at it from, America only took half measures. In reality the country was never able to control Covid and never would be, because too many take their "freedoms" to the extreme, even in the face of a deadly virus. As long as Americans can carry a rifle and cough on people during a pandemic, they will do so to prove they are the "freest" country in the world.
A lot are fans of a guy named Destiny (who isn't that bad, but has a hate boner for Hasan) and his fans are like Trump supporters on steroids. It sucks because again, Destiny really isn't that bad, but his fans make being in his communities insufferable. And they will give no credit to Hasan for anything while also tearing him down at any chance they get or make
*I really don't understand why masks are an issue!* 😄 US could have controlled the spread loooong ago, if everybody just wore a mask in public! It's such a no-brainer! Many people wear masks when they have flu to stop the spread. Just do it for a few more weeks. You'll have a vaccine ready by then and you will save many lives! Where's the argument? 🤔
@@bobinpune If the political elite practiced what they preached, then more people would feel inclined to wear masks. The number of people that had to limit their loved one's funeral to 10 people, only to watch Obama give a "eulogy" to a large crowd, is probably something to do with it.
@@bobinpune the the argument is that masks have been shown over and over to NOT WORK. Several diff brands for ear loop masks say on the boxes in a warning label that these do not prevent the spread of flu or other viruses, even one box I've seen says covid 19. Masks are to be changed and washed frequently. At ths point they are only a vector for cross contamination. They do not work. And can cause health problems and even death. That is the argument
@@santiagogalaviz6850 💀bro I didn't even add a political input, I was just saying that it was taken out of context. It's not like I'm unaware of the constant out of context statements occurring everywhere, I just happened to say that for Hasans statement it was taken out of context. And I'm not a liberal lol I literally used to lean more republican before I realized US politics consist more of bashing each other rather than finding a middle ground which is something I personally prefer more, which is now why I sort of fluctuate between ideas rather than a party.
His bus was extremely clear, which makes sense considering no rational person would rely upon Hasan Piker as a debater. These people are complete jokes.
@@AirmanRugby6 Yea I have fucking no clue what all these comments about how well hasan did here are all about. Knowles fucking owned him at every turn.
It’s interesting to watch these conversations a year later. From my home in Melbourne, Australia, we remain in lockdown after 8 intermittent months of it out of just one year. I promise you, we cannot wear our masks or stay away from our loved ones or attend less social gatherings with a higher level of commitment than we already are. On top of that, we have 70% of people 16 and above “fully vaccinated” and case numbers are at record highs. At some point, we need to acknowledge that our medical overlords are not credible, not trustworthy, not competent, or a combination of the three.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 Well, I don't know anything about that. The cops appear to be stopping people and demanding answers to those questions, but I've never documented my movements in that way.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 For what reason? The government is making some ridiculous demands, there's no question about that, but even in Melbourne, the epicentre of this bullshit, I've never heard of anything like that. Does he have to travel back and forth from regional and metropolitan areas or something?
I just read an article on your town, looks like a third of the cases were caused by parties for the Football Grand Final. I have no idea how popular that is because I’m American but don’t you think that could be the cause for the spike? And then once they have it and return to their lockdown they spread it with who they live with?
They’ll still blame people for not wearing enough masks. And now it’s not enough people have the vaccine. The deaths are up and we have the highest so far amount of vaccinated people. It makes no sense
@@christopherkey2272 yeah it’s the fault of the unvaxxed. Even though you look at Africa and Utar Pradesh, very low vax rates, very high HCQ consumption. Everywhere that has high vax rates has high case rates for the most part, like Israel. Why is that?
@@cappylover192 We know now that the vax lowers the efficacy of the natural immune system for, at least, 2 weeks. That's one reason why so many people still got COVID. The vax efficacy is probably more like 25 to 35%, not 95% like they claimed.
Using a 3 month old CDC study disclaimer as your argument against literally every public health official is some of the most mind boggling mental gymnastics that I've seen in a long time.
"It hasn't been updated since then!" In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities. There is increasing evidence that cloth face coverings help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others. www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html
One thing I don't get, does micheal have no clue about the scientific method? He's talking about credibility as if it's some moral debate things change as we learn new stuff. I mean seriously tell him to look up the definition of the scientific method, something he should have learnt in school.
@@krschu00 clearest example was calling for a drinking game when Michael noted Shay's Rebellion. The less obvious examples were consistently giving Hasan the "last word" on the topics. At one point he tried to call out Michael on a point Michael was making, but never attempted to call out Hasan on blatantly false information.
Haasan puts to much credence on government policy when there are multiple conflicting studies that have been silenced because they don't fit a political agenda.
@@Thaijler - Let me rephrase: TWO DIFF UNIVERSITIES that have CONFLICTING results using the SAME METHODOLOGY about ONE ASPECT of healthcare. Put up or shut up.
@@Bmanritchie Ok let me rephrase what I said. There are studies that go against the left wing media narrative. Did you consider the fact that 2 "approved" drug companies had varying results with vaccine efficacy? Your agrument has an innate bias built in to it. Thats like saying name 2 studies from the 60s conducted by tobacco companies that prove cigarettes are bad.
I enjoy these exchanges you bring together. They are not chauvinistic and can be seen as productive. I especially appreciate you not adding input as to take a particular side on the issues, instead remaining neutral as you should.
Just in case anybody didn’t know this I just wanted to point out that Hasan is not very intelligent. When he is on his own channel every argument he makes sounds like it’s coming from a stereotypical 80s movie bully. It’s never anything of substance all he does is mock the person he disagrees with without adding anything to it. The fact that he is as influential as he is is truly a detriment to society.
@@AustimosPrime it's a meme.. Everybody calls him cenk's nephew instead of his name coz the only reason he got a job on tyt is coz of nepotism which he supposedly is against..
@@dattboii6541 lmao what cringe comment. He debates with Knowles rather the ask questions. What terrible "moderator", definitely steering clear of this cancer.
@@Drunkgamer904 literally the other guy cited an outdated Cdc article and hasan gave him a study that showed mask stop the spread of the virus by 70% thank Knowles ignores that study and said faucci didnt wear a mask at 1 point if you dont think that's idiocracy than your an idiot
I mean, sure. Maybe the moderator should not have asked such pointed questions or argued, but Michael was being ridiculous. This isn't even a partisan issue. I am willing to be charitable and say that Michael got anxious and caved into making really weak points because he panicked from the pressure. I am not, however, going to pretend that his arguments were good.
Lmao Hasan ran circles around him. Michael is not used to debating people from the left that aren't morons it seems. He even seemed to give up towards the end.
@Benito Thambiraj if a centrist were to tell you Michael did well and hasan didn’t it wouldn’t change your mind. Just remember 70 million Trump supporters are pissed off yet not one fucking building has been burned down! Not fucking one!!
@@goatlandia8457 you're comparing apples to oranges here, they burned down buildings in protest of a police officer that killed a man in broad daylight, why would the trump supporters burn down buildings just because they lost an election?
@@goatlandia8457 The pandemic has only gotten worse and I’ll sign show to another massive lock down after Thanksgiving Hindsight shows his stepson was right about masks and people arguing against them clearly are only doing it for the political reasons
@@jewberto1220 the night of the election anti American democrats were burning down buildings and it wasn’t because of racial injustice. These people fucking HATE America! I mean they fucking HATE HATE HATE America!
zingiestmeerkat I mean it’s fine to support knowles, everyone has their own opinions, but he sounded like an idiot in this debate and idk how you can deny that.
Joe S did you watch the same interview I did? Because what I saw was the moderator allowing Hasan to speak for minutes on end about several different points and only allowing Michael to respond to one point very briefly. The moderator was clearly biased. Also how in any way did Knowles come off as an idiot? The guy made very clear arguments.
It was white supremacists killing blacks people at the funeral. But white supremacists are “good people” according to trump and MANY police are white supremacists so they won’t be held accountable
@@indominusdragonlee1805 white supremacists killing black people at a funeral? What? It was 3 africa-americans (one of them identified as Nuemonei Travon Laster) ... wtf stop doing drugs .. if this is trolling then it's not funny
@@indominusdragonlee1805 There is a quick way to fact check this statement you made. Check your fake news media outlets like CNN or MSNBC. If it had been white supremacists, they would have been covering this story 24 x 7. Checking.... no sorry, they covered it once, found out it was gang related, and moved on to cover more important issues like how often Donald Trump wears his mask.
You gotta understand that everyone gets offended, that's human nature. It's what you do in response that matters. Since the mainstream right has taken the clearly stronger position on free speech, they may not like something but they will never ask for It's removal, for eg from college campuses which the left is famous for doing. Furthermore the left has gotten more snowflake like as they have gotten younger through the decades, while the right has gotten less snowflake mainly because of religion not being as dogmatic as intersectionality. Victim worship on left is more sacred than God worship on right.
@@danstan7274 what?? No one stops leftists to come into these so called conservative speakers' halls. Anyone can come. The fact that people riot in Berkeley even if the speaker is a centrists speaks volumes. Jon haidt talked about these people in the coddling of American mind. Also the mainstream left is not as soft, and neither is the right. I'm talking about college culture, and it will spill over into society over the next years.
@@shauryadivya1736 you need million dollar donations and to make a whole orginization (safe space no matter how much you don't like it) to try and push your ideas when its your belief that ideas should succeed in the free marketplace of ideas L
Wouldn’t it be great for our politicians to sit down and have a conversation without thinking of the next “OWNED the other side” moment for social media? Imagine a civil conversation between Gaetz and AOC? I can’t imagine half of congress able to speak without shouting at each other.
@Aru Gula something about the internet and stupid seems to be a theme for some ppl. you can make all the snark remarks you want, you still missed the point
@Aru Gula so now, you're resorting to insults. while you waste your breathe not thinking about why the comment went over your head? Insulting me, doesn't make it any less so that you missed the point.
I have no idea why Hasan was in this debate. He has a high school diploma at best, and his job is to act like an idiot on the internet for people to laugh at. Knowles is college educated and his job is all about politics and social issues. Lopsided af debate
He has such an ego. All he does is talk about socialism to a bunch of impressional 10-20 year olds in his chat all day while at the same time benefiting from his viewers wallets.
Brown Fabio made his bones being attractive on twitter and instragam, then jumped on his uncles bandwagon and started preaching unbridled socialism to his very large young audience, whos already been indoctrinated by academia to be biased toward socialism
I added up all of the time between Knowles and Piker. Enjoy. Mask Mandate Knowles: 4:20 Piker: 6:09 (last word) President Trumps Approach Knowles 1:37 Piker 2:17 (last word) The Feds Move In Knowles: 2.09 Piker: 6:36 (last word) The Election Knowles: 1:24 Piker: 4:11 (last word) TOTAL: Knowles 9:30 Piker 19:13
You do realise that Michael isn't making any points when he is given time. They didn't talk over each other so Michael could have done so. Hasan was making points with evidence but Michael was only using anecdotes.
@@shridharbiju7370 lol the only real anecdote was his use of masks comment everything else he cited actual facts... Right, they didn't talk over each other but Michael wasn't given the time to reply to the comments. As a moderator this is what you need to account for and as for as debates go I think this was still better then a lot of them.
It’s not the government’s job to protect my health. It’s the government’s job to protect my rights. It’s my job to protect my health. When you trade liberty for safety you end up losing both.“
yes but if you don't protect your health good enough (wear a mask and socially distance), then the health of every single person you come in contact with is at risk. The cycle continues
Actually according to the UN's universal declaration of human rights it should be your governments job to give you accessable healthcare. You guys just don't wanna listen to human rights thats all.
Hasan: Explains why it’s a good to wear a mask and doesn’t politicize the issue. Also Knowles: but it all a political issue and moves the issue away from the main topic
@@seanhubbard6033 It depends on how you define left-wing. Center-left, then sure. But if you go too far left, they start sounding like a religion where narratives matter more than facts. We see this with some of the BLM people and Marxist ideology. And financially, the left has always tended to drift into unreality, where the systems they propose don't usually work. The truth is that ideology is the start of losing grip on reality. The further you follow ideology rather than facts/evidence/results, the further you drift into unreality. This can happen on either side, and at times in history, one side tends to be more out of touch than another. We see that in many cases, the left, in general, is now drifting too far into ideology.
Welcome to being a conservative. The entirety of the political institution, including its subsidiaries in the media and academia are arrayed against you
@@RustyFruit I don't agree with Knowles on masks, though I tend to agree with him on most things. But I don't care if he's saying that masks give you the ghey, it's not the moderator's position to take a side. He's there to facilitate the debate. There are rules to this kind of thing. Even in an informal setting.
@@7EiamJ7 Well first of all siting an Influenza report while there is loads of reports specifically about Covid which say masks do work is kinda weird already but let's say we just treat it as another Covid report. Covid and the Flu are not the same. Covid is more contagious and spreads from a different virus which are two variables not used in that report because it is only about Influenza. That could effect things. And if Covid is easier to spread it would not make masks less effective if the basis for Influenza is to not wear them in the first place. It's probably redundant to wear a mask with the flu but because of Covid being different it makes sense.
@@noname-mw7oy unless the droplets for covid and flu are different does it matter what the report is on? Covid has become very politicised so arguably a pre pandemic report on mask effectiveness may carry more weight.
@@7EiamJ7 I'm not sure on the specific differences of the droplets but there is obviously some differences because there is a pretty sound conclusion that masks do help to prevent the transmission of Covid and this one study about the Flu saying otherwise doesn't change that when the mast majority say masks are useful for Covid.
@@noname-mw7oy have you got a link to the study? I remember reading one that was talking about rats in glass containers, so you have four containers, 2 with infected rats, each opposite healthy rats, one had holes in the divider and the other had a clean N95 mask with no gaps, the conclusion being that the masked rat was fine where as the other was not and they concluded masks work. Now I know this is not humans and covid but the problem is that not everyone has a fitted sealed and fresh mask on. To my knowledge that is the issue with telling people masks work, they come to believe it will work regardless of what the mask is made of, how clean it is and how well fitted it is, plus the false sense of security can lead to a more lax attitude for other simple measures like washing hands and staying a distance from others. I can tell you from experience that not wearing mask keeps people away haha.
Thank you, was waiting for someone to say that. I’m pretty sure he’s reading his responses off a screen. Come on, he’s wearing a Hawaiian shirt at a debate
Hasan is the embodiment of group think. The individual ability to think for him or herself is repressed to accommodate the group. Usually, the group narrative is controlled by those who control our mainstream science, media, education and politics which have alternative motives. That's why "democratic socialism" sounds like a wonderful idea to those who think like Hassan, but its a trojan horse which the federal government, central banks and corporations will have ALL the control.
@@denkinoms Saying that the government didn’t do enough. The democrats pushed for shutdowns and tons of spending now inflation is through the roof. We said to let the kids go to school, the democrats refused, and after all this time locked inside our houses mental health crisis is worse than ever, just like the opposite side of hasan said it would be. The government shut down peoples businesses and ruined lives for a virus that spread regardless. He said we should listen to the health officials when we had been lied to over and over again. No humility that I’ve seen tho from the left or Hasan.
I’m surprised Michael Knowles did this, he’s clearly better than this Hasan “I benefit from nepotism” Piker. I remember Hasan debating Charlie Kirk and every single leftist said hasan owned Kirk yet all the centrists who didn’t have a dog in the fight admitted Kirk won. We live in a world where your political party is more important than ideas. “Durr me voting against Trump, don’t kurr who dat democrat is me jus want Trump gone ya hurrrrrd. I’m finna gonna catch someone outside if they be warin maga hats cuz we been told they racist without jack fuck for evidence. Evidence? Who care bout evidence when we got this built up rage we gone beat anyone up, loot and riot, f America!!”
@kylerobertm I think the joke is that he did something no sane person would, taking an extremely informal shirt that's meant to be unbuttoned, and buttoning it and using it for a formal fashion.
You'd probably get destroyed Hasan. I know this because you made a statement that he was wrong without actually coming up with points to refute his arguments. This is how most unintellectual people function.
great example of juxtaposing an authoritarian with a libertarian. Not entirely sure what good can come of a conversation like this. Cenks Nephew is a huge big government advocate that doesn't mind lying or misleading to make his point. But don't take my word for it, check Actual Justice Warrior's critique of him. But again, how can you have a conversation when the 2 sides don't agree in how facts are 'interpreted'
@@hinasakukimi pointing out sweden was more successful by actually following the science is emotional? But saying "we need to open safely" isnt emotional?
@@Digger-Nick wow someone cant deal with others having an opinion lmao. And by job in politics do you mean when he worked for TYT. You know when he had a job in the news industry? I'm unaware of him being any sort of politican, and would love to hear about his time in public service.
@@chris-_-6839 and you understand that having a degree and working in the field are two different things. Hugh jass said he had a job in politics and that simply isn't true. Hes only ever been in the news industry. I don't know what I said that's so triggering that two people had to come here and show their ignorance.
The supreme court is currently making decisions on whether or not to remove the miranda warnings that police officers say before arresting. Seems like hasan saying its a dangerous precedent to not read these rights before arresting people, AKA kidnapping people aged well.
"Trump is desperately trying to capture his withering support". Fastforward to today, Trump lost the election and is becoming increasingly more irrelevant. Then yeah, what Hasan said aged pretty well. It is Knowles takes that never age well. He is just a propaganda mouthpiece with a shit-eating-grin-piece.
These days if anyone has a bad idea but has the guts to stand up for it, they’re given a podium. There is truth and then lies. America is always rooting for the underdog even if their ideas are horrible.
Knowles is just Ben Shapiro at 0.5x speed
Hahahaha
lol, he is slightly less annoying than shapiro but that's not really a compliment.
Patriot Spring knowles is only well informed on micro stats and studies that support his arguments
@@fufuman27 Why lie yo yourself and your ilk? Kind of silly to do, when you talk about people with elite education who were among the best in their classes, nuh? And you talk about a guy who ran a campaign for a senatecandidate or congresscandidate as a 17 year old or what it was, and almost got him elected. He knows politics. Just say you disagree with him. Don't pretend like he is not welinformed and has a sharp mind. He has been very successful at all he has done. And very blunt and efficient, which the left has recognized, so they have targeted his speaking gigs, attacked him, and they have gotten him cenceled as opinionator on MSM. And he was number 1 in political channels on this site, when he hosted the verdict with Ted Cruz. As you should know, that is a show about the inner workings in congress, and about fascism in some hearings regarding the left and their institutions they control, that controls the entire worlds narrative
@@janusgahrstre1998 I like the part where you didn't give any evidence that he isn't a hack and just proceeded to say he's an effective political pundit (because people that do well in politics never lie) and talk shit about the left.
centrist host: hasan do you have anything nice to say about micheal, for bi-partisanship?
hasan: no
R
Once, a Leftist called and said "We don't want to unite with you, we want to destroy every single one of you".
@@anonymouspokemon4623 where I grew up there were no leftists, we were forced to write with our right hand.
@@anonymouspokemon4623 Michael Knowles did a panel with Kyle Kulinski and said basically the same thing that you are making up in this comment.
@@hollywoodjhawk7682 No proof = Never happened. Rule of thumb of internet.
Hasan is the furthest from a libertarian lmao.
@Mike Goodwalk The famous comedian Dave Smith put it best: He's just an authoritarian Democrat posing as a radical. Can't really knock Hasan's hustle, though. He's making big bank by catering to online tankie circles
@Mike Goodwalk **ignores point of how it’s unreasonable to call someone who wants workplace democracy an authoritarian**
@@snow6094 correction: *STATE ENFORCED workplace democracy.* You are free to form unions/coops/ whatever agreement u want when the market is free.
@@tann_man how has that been working for Amazon, Walmart and Tesla workers?
@@snow6094 pretty good. You have the freedom to not work for a company you think is shit. If they were truly that bad, so many people wouldn’t be competing to work there. The reality is those companies offer competitive benefits, and a secure fixed wage to their employees that other companies simply cannot provide.
October 2021 here, Hassan's arguments haven't aged well.
His arguments NEVER age well.
His arguments failed decades ago when the Soviet Union failed.
Yet he goes from 50k+ a year at TYT, now he’s big on twitch and now he’s on H3H3 too. I don’t understand the appeal of him at all.
same
they really didn't
Nope and they will continue to never age well
Quote of the day: “You Hassan are speaking more clearly to young progressives than established democrats” round of applause for you Michael
No, impossible. Must smear him! Quick, what fucked up shit did he say 7 years ago after a few too many?
- Strategists
Hmm, he has a point
Hasan countered pretty well by identifying basic principles of decency and social responsibility as "radical". Instinctively I would say Michael's strategy was to mainly protect his chin while Hasan tried to pursue by cutting off the ring.
He said that public and private schools should be run the same if the public schools are a failure.
Um. He just red pilled himself.
You must've missed that part @16:00
@Thomas Larkin He's already been smeared for that one. That was poor wording which he apologized for. It was in the context of history and geopolitics
Political views aside, these guys didn't yell over each other. It was actual a normal debate, they both did great. Felt like I learned something
fr it was nice and respectful
well both did as nice as they could, regarding the position they are representing. just one of them got the science and facts on his side. but still its a wellcome change from the "presidential" rhethoric.
That’s why we love hasan
@@aaronduerst Who's the one with "science" and "facts" ?
I can practically guarantee you Hasan IMMEDIATELY went to Twitch to bitch to his sycophantic followers about how dumb he thinks Michael is. Because Hasan is a child.
You should put these two guys on again to review their statements from this show.
Yes
why Hasan would have to admit hes a moron but hes done nothing but double, triple, and quadrupled down. hes a shill and will never admit being one
@@emdubb1381 ahhh, and the guy who said “cointelpro was fine” but makes his entire show about cancel culture is “credible” tho, right?
@@emdubb1381 ??? Yes he’s a “shill” for having the EXACT SAME VIEWS all his life, despite when he made much much more money and could easily become a right wing grifter and make millions upon millions more
@@kingofgrim4761 What are you talking about? He's entitled and has those views because of his family (his uncle being Cenk). He realized young that there is money in being a shill for the left, just as there is money being a shill for the right. Hassan is a champagne socialist who lives very wealthily off capitalism but promotes socialist ideas. These kinds of people don't have any integrity.
What Michael said did really age well a year and half later... Jeeze
Of course it did. The Left only uses their form of "science" to bludgeon people over the head with. The Right uses Science to make decisions for themselves.
Loool in what way
@Old Chunk of Coal ???? You’re the ones with the burden of proof. His mask shit has been proven wrong. Hasan still has the empirical evidence showing even more that masks help, as well as most of what knowles said being debunked real time but Hasan of all people
@@kingofgrim4761 Masks do work, but toilet paper works better.
@@kingofgrim4761 surgical masks literally do nothing
Middle Guys First words:“....Gemndtremen, welcome!.....”
Me: “...wWhat?”
So glad someone said it, so satisfying when you discover a comment saying what your about to post👍
Middle guy: gerdermen, welcome
Me: oook that's enough **closes browser**
@@tobymcgroby8967 believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son and whoever believes in him shall not die but have eternal life. If you trust that Jesus' death on the cross has payed the penalty for your sin you will have eternal life. There is nothing anyone can do to earn heaven, only Jesus can save a person from eternity in hell. You may be persecuted for putting your trust in Jesus but take heart, for anything you lose for Christ on earth God will compensate you in heaven. Obey Christ if you choose Jesus because that is expected of every Christian.
@@aomorgancool1775 No
Gender-men
I love how Hasan is holding himself back and largely saying only things that a liberal would say, and the host, probably unaware, is kind of taking his side thinking they are on the same team.
Is he an undercover commie?
@@lakersfansince1991 sort of. He's broadly leftist. He does speak favourably about Socialism and Communism.
@@senthan09 sounds eDgY
i think he’s in favor of socialism & communism but supports democratic socialism and backed bernie when he was running bc he recognizes that revolution is nowhere near and that it is more realistic to socialize america
@@cryptocine1011 exactly. Took the words out of my mouth
I love that Michael actually commended Hasan at the end. That was genuine.
Hassan the type of dude to wear a mask in his car by himself
Science!
Mikey the type of guy to froth at the mouth if he sees a LGBT person
@@martianproductions997Idk where this sentiment that he hates gay people came from.
@@kristianrodriguez4676he wants to eradicate transgerism
@@kristianrodriguez4676 They lack critical thinking skills, so they default to "HATE!"
Is this a moderator or is Knowles debating two people???
Its okay, he handled them both easily.
It's OK at this point he's used to it.
It seems like every time knowles is having to debate the moderator as well
@@StAlchemystTrue statement Stan, just thought if in the title this was a debate it would state 'Hasan and moderator to debate Michael Knowles'...there would be a lot more hits on this...especially to see Knowles handle both with ease.
The dude's face when Michael said he doesn't wear a mask. 🤣. What a puss.
“michael has a great studio” 💀💀
you could see the rage in his eyes xd
owned
Yeah that Koch money really pays off
@@legendofshaunesquire3014 You have to start informing yourself before you parrot that falsehood by default about everybody. Since you can only parrot, I will do the legwork for you kiddo. The daily wire is co-owned by Shapiro and the wilks brothers, not David Koch. The wilks are not evil industrialists who wants illegal immigration to keep down wages. They are fracking billionaires who has sold themselves out, and are now philantropes who spreads the word of God, and donate money to churches. Their agenda is God and morality, judeochristian values.
Janus gahr støre if you love god shouldn’t you also love the home he gave us. Why support people who push a love of Christ to cover up for the evil things they do
This is actually embarrassing for Hasan and anyone who thought he won considering the current situation. How right Micheal was…
I only made it a minute in before I almost lost my mind. Yes, I’m sure the big mistake is that we didn’t spend enough money during the pandemic on stupid left wing agenda items.
@Europa What Hassan said worked for basically every other country on earth including here in Canada (even adjusting per capita and looking at similar pop density regions like Toronto, Vancouver, etc).
The reason it’ll never work for the Divided states of America is because you have lizard men politicians who politicized a fucking virus, so half your population is in denial complaining on alt news platforms like CZcams and the other half is over bearing and hypocritical smiling and nodding at sensationalist news reporting - eliminating any hope your country has at a reasonable solution achieved through mutual cooperation.
Get vaccinated and drop lockdowns. Increase the variety of vaccines to include older more tested styles (like recombinant protein) to decrease hesitancy, and for fuck sakes get that anti-viral pill that Merck invented on the market. That’s what/will work.
Much love from Canada
@@chucknorris3752 Have you seen Australia? They followed every insane leftist policy perfectly and now it has been under essentially martial law for months. No matter what mandate or right you strip you will never see 0 covid. Take responsibility for you own health and stop asking for others to be an adult for you.
@Nathan Paske Australia has 62 deaths per million, the USA has 2400 deaths per million.
Cases look even better, with a maximum of 300 per 100,000 in Victoria with five territories experiencing sub 50 per 100,000 numbers. In contrast with the USA, maximum is in North Dokata at 18,500 cases per 100,000 and 43 total states with numbers ranging between 10,000 and that maximum.
I’d say those “insane leftist policies” might be at least partially responsible for this considering this per capita trend holds up even when accounting for population density.
Oh man not a single top of the hour segue RIP
I really liked the conversation. No over acting form either side, no one personally berates the other, nor makes a mock of themselves. This is how i want every political debate to be.
Doesn’t sell as many tickets unfortunately. Bummer but I’m with ya
fr man, like i enjoy when both sides can respect each other and im not subconciously listening to one side based on who is being more respectful. now i can actually just listen to what they say and think for myself
conversation was great, but my goodness if michael knowles isn't convincing. facts, figures and reasonable arguments that are on topic. i have begun to notice and even on young turnks that we democrats voice our arguments in an emotional way and tend to get lost when debating ppl like knowles. i dunno... i'm beginning to cross to the right.
@@ricklazio7923 It's ok to agree on some things my friend. 👍
@@L4rceny right?! Its almost like that's how our dule-party system should work. Diverse in our opinions but able to reach bipartisanship in our decision making. People treat politics now like its the super bowl...unconditional support for their team and unconditional hatred for their opposition...Sucks big cocka
Is Knowles going to make a pie after all that cherry picking?
Good one
Dude I love cherry pies
Gottem
Gotteeeeeeeem
I couldn't have said it better. Knowles is extremely disingenuous. He will only change his tone if he got a bad case of the virus himself.
The whole masks are effective thing aged well lmfao.
didnt it. lmfao
My doctor used masks before the pndemic and still uses them now. I guess they must do something right? Think they do it to look cool?
@@martianproductions997 Actually the masks are used to prevent the spread of blood and saliva based pathogens entirely, a maskj is going to do literally eff all for covid virus except kill your braincells via long term oxygen deprival and carbon monoxide poisooning, Never mind the fact that you are entirely retraining your bodies breathing function to an abnormal situation which has been found to aid the forming ofg sleep apnea as well as snoring.
This aged so poorly for Hasan. I would love to hear him respond this this nonsense now.
Legitimate question. How so?
Hassan is the embodiment of group think. The individual ability to think for him or herself is repressed to accommodate the group. Usually, the group narrative is controlled by those who control our mainstream science, media, education and politics which have alternative motives. That would explain why "democratic socialism" sounds like a wonderful idea to those who think like Hassan, but its a trojan horse which the federal government, central banks and corporations will have ALL the control.
Hasan is the same guy who had a shirt with the American flag and Alexandria cortez on it as if she was America's hero
When aoc does nothing but talk shit about it
So he's not very smart
I always found Hasan very fake and sometimes, cringe. He goes where the wind blows.
@@Taylor_5724 @Taylor let's just start with his 1st line...."the government should be doing more". They're TERRIBLE at everything they do other than fight wars. They have no idea who to listen to or how to spend our money and have gone against REAL science at every step. What HAVE they done? They've ruined small businesses, created the biggest social divide in us history, forced faulty covid treatments (remdesiver/ventilators) while restricting treatments that work (ivermectin/monoclonal antibodies,etc), enforced useless mandates that ONLY created division and little protection, they never once mentioned how to keep healthy(zinc, d, c, etc), they have used and allowed EOs for political signaling on a level that will go down in history as the greatest abuse of power in our generation. They STILL use Fauci (no explanation needed). They have not done ONE thing right and he wants them do do more of what they do SO TERRIBLY. (Sorry....but that's a typical liberal for you....)
His angle on every opinion is this way....just blind. All of the suffering he speaks about is BECAUSE of the governments reaction...not the virus.
"Poeple are dragging this out by refusing to wear mask and social distance" BULLSHIT....thats why everyone is so pissed off! We've all been doing that stupid shit....we were forced to! Not to mention the hypocrat/democrites are the ones marching for BLM and partying at Obamas bday....the list goes on and on about their hypocrisy. The point is, their ideas are NEVER the right answer and the dems won't stop repeating the same fucking nonsense over and over, never bringing anything new to the table....just, "pick the stupidest, least scientific measures possible, force everyone to comply, ruin the economy in the process and repeat/YELL at everyone to COMPLY HARDER"....rather that THINK/debate/prove....
I'm done...I fucking hate libtards so much at this point (and I voted blue before 2020...didn't vote for Trump in 16). This not even worth it. You either see this stuff and agree or you don't and probably never will. No idea where you stand but praying you have eyes and a brain to push back against these kooks.
Elex, you were very, apparently, biased. Bad form.
Your guy could just not lie every single argument he makes and the moderater would not need to correct him.
You guys LITERALLY blame reality for not conforming to your demented world view.
@@polishpipebomb What lie?
kevin trying to politicize the cdc comments with an old statement which the cdc themselves redacted after more data came out and then he tried to challenge the data.
You guys say facts over feelings but when the facts are not in your favor it’s liberal PC propaganda
R R Knowles was making an argument that the “experts” change their minds all the time and they don’t even follow their own advice. Fauci says one thing but does the other when he thinks he’s not on camera. Fauci doesn’t seem to think masks do much of anything and neither does Biden when he wears the mask dangling from his ear, not protecting anyone. As for “facts don’t care about your feelings,” I’m pretty sure that saying came as a response to “you guys” when you feel like the opposite gender that contradicts your chromosomes.
user name except they’re not? Sweden never mandated masks nor shut down. Not even Fauci is buying the scam. He doesn’t use face masks in his personal life outside the cameras.
Moderator forgot that he was supposed to moderate and not debate
Isn't he supposed to rein someone in when they are lying? Debating doesn't mean you get a free pass to lie or be stupid.
bujambura burundi
Knowles wasn’t even lying what were you on about?
bujambura burundi found the Hassan fan, name a lie
Duval In The Wall he was using three month old data lol I love Knowles and watch him often but that isn’t the source I would bring to a debate
@@Duval-In-The-Wall *People in the US seem to think it's the only country under lockdown.*
No, it's not. It's happened everywhere around the world. Trump is not running in India or UK.
If everyone wore a mask US could have controlled the spread loooong ago.
But no, some politicians need to somehow keep their voters fired up constantly even if it means they don't wear a mask in a pandemic and jeopardize their health.
Trump needs to man up, quit whining, take initiative, wear a mask and set an example. People will still vote for him in droves.
No need to be crybaby. Believe in your voters and save their lives.
Hasan’s apartment SCREAMS overpriced 1 bedroom LA apartment without a washer and dryer for $2899.00 a month
Don't worry, he has a $3 million house now courtesy of his Twitch viewers' mom's credit cards.
@@vectar niiiice 🤭🤙🏽
@@vectar What a true socialist. Don't forget that he also got a job at TYT by his own merit
of being the owner's nephew.
@@traiforse5777 ah yes, socialism is when no money
@@kingofgrim4761 No, but it's the hypocrisy of these people. They don't want a free and just system as they claim. They want a system where they are in power, even if they didn't earn those spots.
Watching that a few years later, seems like Michael Knowles was right.
Did we watch the same video how delusional are you??
I disagree
nope
True MK has truth on his side so kinda wins by default
@@InnocentAlaska Michael Knowles is a conservative so he would be on the opposite side of truth since his ideology is contradictory to reality
Piker is paid via his own work, the other guy is paid to say what he’s told to say.
Yup. Knowles is a hack.
Oh and Knowles knew early car salesman was a waste of his talent.
Knowles is a pathetic Daily Wire third-stringer.
@Andrea Mendenhall "muh constitution" tf does that even mean in this context?
From the videos I watched Hasan just talks out his ass. Sounds like a high school kid. Didn’t his uncle get smacked around by Ben which gave him a way off the bench? Haha
14:30 "they're not gonna wanna do debates to hide bidens fragility" lmao this aged well
@@yooowefsifjosidfjasda7293 well this aged well. Trump won the last debate that was irl so either way, wether it was online or offline he would’ve still won that debate imo. As for the election however, it’s all still a toss up tbh.
@@neuro1073 How's that dose of copium?
@@neuro1073 I disagree on him winning either debate, I think the debates were abhorrent for both of them. It's really up to the American people now on if we want to shoot ourself in the left or the right foot. Either way we're up for a rough four years
@@thebookofeli1105 fair enough. That’s your perspective and it makes sense. Perfectly fine with that.
@@thebookofeli1105 As Noam Chomsky put it you have a choice between a not so great run of the mill politician or someone who with another 4 years could push the planet over the tipping point to extinction. I know who I'd be voting for if I lived in america
Weird how these young men on CZcams conduct themselves more professionally than the "experts" on legacy media.
i hope you don't see Hasan as professional. he's backhanded as hell, exploiting the civility. he's the result of nepotism.
"Crenshaw lost his eye when a 'brave' Mujahideen soldier 'f***ed his eyehole with their d**k" - Hasan Piker
Wow what a professional.
@@Tantrum777 triggered
@@jamierobertson8618 It is an exact quote, that is not me being triggered. When you quote some one that is saying what they say.
@@Tantrum777 Do you think he should be canceled?
Aged like fine wine
*Hasan Piker and Elex Michaelson Debates Michael Knowles...
Host reins in stupid "debater" when he tries to politicize a simple precaution like a mask!
2v1 it’s only fair
I’m conservative and I mean CONSERVATIVE lol but he actually did a pretty good job
Right wingers are such snowflakes! You're just angry because "your guy" lost and is weak and idiotic.
ha..
The moment that Hasan calls out Michaels months old cdc reference, as Michael holds it up like it’s justifying his point bahaha 😂💀
that one took me out 💀💀 he was so proud
deadass lmao
"it's a paper that just came out" LMAOO
Can anyone even find the document Knowles is holding up? Everything on the CDC website advises to wear a mask.
Found it. It's from a paper on influenza, not coronavirus. Notice that Knowles stammers at the end and says, "transmission of...viruses." The actual text reads, "transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."
I'm not a scientist or an epidemiologist, but I have to wonder why Knowles improvised that part of the text.
wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
Michael's points aged really well. Can't say the same about Hasan.
Can you explain please?
@@NewbiPai a lot of what he said particularly about lockdowns and masks have proven true multiple times over since the debate. Also, he pointed out how radical the democrat party was but were hiding it (supporting child drag shows and tween transition, congresspeople refusing to define a woman, proposed bans on 12 round pistol magazines and suggested 9mm ammunition ban etc.)
@@jeremiah5430 go drink your coors light lmao
@@jeremiah5430 Congrats. You have fallen hook, line and sinker for the most meaningless and utterly irrelevant topics of the day. Not one of the things you’ve listed are worth talking nor listening about. Poverty, homelessness, unemployment, stagnating wages, debt, failing infrastructure, lack of funding in public education, gun violence; you could’ve picked any one of the hundred different important topics, yet you chose the most asinine and meaningless political hill to die on.
@@jeremiah5430 first of all child friendly drag shows are not morally wrong second of all the majority of democrats do not agree with those under the medical age of consent transitioning third of all a woman is a socially constructed set of arbitrarily decided roles expectations behaviors and appearances and lastly I disagree with the ban
The hosts face when Knowles says CDC hadn't updated yet lmaoooo
I just realized Hasan has a basketball with googly eyes in the background 😂
Its his gf.
It's his fleshlight
I got this comment to 69 likes, my job here is done...
@@coolglue9663 I’m sorry for your loss
@@babufrik9289 I tried 😂
Y'all righties acting like knowles won, and then complaining that he wasn't aloud to speak like ???? Which one is it fellas
Both, despite the silencing and biased moderator, he won
@Mahdi Jaffer you're right. He did goof.
McLovin, when is your next movie coming out?
The overly policing SJW left and Far right are one in the same.
@@travisanderson9094 Funny I disagree
well... this didn't age well for Piker. looking back.... Knowles was right on every point.
he was at that moment and has been until now. we got screwed up the moment the virus has become a political issue rather than a health one
He is a typical idiot who beleives that has thinking abilities, so normal. I bet he will never admit he was wrong even to himself.
@@hophmanbg He won't. All he does is vent to his echo chamber on Twitch, so he thinks all of his points are right because his fanboys eat it up.
Yeah unfortunately Hasan listens to Twitch chat and no offense I love twitch but the majority of people who watch are either 12 or dumb as hell
@@corvonics6383 this kind of people don't realize that truth mattets otherwise we will destroy everything which has value, anyway there is not much left
Where the fuck did all these conspiracy nuts in the comment sections come from lololol.
You think masks work? You’re the conspiracy nut 😂
The CDC came out and said that the standard masks weren't effective.
Whichever side you look at it from, America only took half measures.
In reality the country was never able to control Covid and never would be, because too many take their "freedoms" to the extreme, even in the face of a deadly virus.
As long as Americans can carry a rifle and cough on people during a pandemic, they will do so to prove they are the "freest" country in the world.
the alex jones zombies have awoken half of their brain and are starting to spread more misinformation as expected
A lot are fans of a guy named Destiny (who isn't that bad, but has a hate boner for Hasan) and his fans are like Trump supporters on steroids. It sucks because again, Destiny really isn't that bad, but his fans make being in his communities insufferable. And they will give no credit to Hasan for anything while also tearing him down at any chance they get or make
Why does the mediator let Hassan have the last word for EVERY TOPIC?
b lmao
ya its annoying when this happens because when they have the last word they feel as if they just won
Because he’s not telling lies like the other one
@@gabrielledesmeules9802 LOL
Lmao cry more, Lib.
I've watched Knowles enough to know when he's holding back smiles and laughter. He's stifling this every time Hasan opens his mouth.
Must mean he’s an idiot then
*I really don't understand why masks are an issue!* 😄 US could have controlled the spread loooong ago, if everybody just wore a mask in public!
It's such a no-brainer!
Many people wear masks when they have flu to stop the spread. Just do it for a few more weeks. You'll have a vaccine ready by then and you will save many lives!
Where's the argument? 🤔
@@bobinpune If the political elite practiced what they preached, then more people would feel inclined to wear masks. The number of people that had to limit their loved one's funeral to 10 people, only to watch Obama give a "eulogy" to a large crowd, is probably something to do with it.
@Broadstreet Flyers95 whoa. Almost as original as the previous comment. Blow a couple fuzes coming up with that one?
@@bobinpune the the argument is that masks have been shown over and over to NOT WORK. Several diff brands for ear loop masks say on the boxes in a warning label that these do not prevent the spread of flu or other viruses, even one box I've seen says covid 19. Masks are to be changed and washed frequently. At ths point they are only a vector for cross contamination. They do not work. And can cause health problems and even death. That is the argument
The crucial point is at 1:45 where both sides are dissatisfied with their gov...yet the gov just keeps the right and left at each other's throat
Oh man micheals laughing a year later
wym?
Breakdown: Hasan talks for 5 minutes and the mediator asks Knowles to respond to 1 of 10 points Hasan made for 2 minutes.
And the comments are fetishizing the guy who dresses better.
And Ben Shapiro would have covered the same ground but in 23 seconds.
Imagine thinking Hasan made any points here
@Jesse Pinkman No there isnt you dummy.
Jesse pinkman would be proud of this soyboy lmao
Ur mad
I can just straight up see the frustration in hassan building as he struggles not to start getting blunt af lmao
@Bout It why are you lying
@Bout It Taken incredibly out of context lmao
@@santiagogalaviz6850 💀bro I didn't even add a political input, I was just saying that it was taken out of context. It's not like I'm unaware of the constant out of context statements occurring everywhere, I just happened to say that for Hasans statement it was taken out of context. And I'm not a liberal lol I literally used to lean more republican before I realized US politics consist more of bashing each other rather than finding a middle ground which is something I personally prefer more, which is now why I sort of fluctuate between ideas rather than a party.
@Bout It Didn't know commenting on a youtube video is imperialism
@Bout It How am i trying to change any existing culture?
Host is extremely left biased and hasn't moderated effectively
naw the other guy just had shit takes
Moderator botched it right out the gate with “gentermen.” 😂
The host looked so insanely proud every time Hassan spoke 😂
Not really
What
He’s liberal
His bus was extremely clear, which makes sense considering no rational person would rely upon Hasan Piker as a debater. These people are complete jokes.
@@AirmanRugby6 Yea I have fucking no clue what all these comments about how well hasan did here are all about. Knowles fucking owned him at every turn.
Elex this is superb content. PLEASE DO THIS MORE!!! The people only benefit from conversations like this!
It’s interesting to watch these conversations a year later.
From my home in Melbourne, Australia, we remain in lockdown after 8 intermittent months of it out of just one year. I promise you, we cannot wear our masks or stay away from our loved ones or attend less social gatherings with a higher level of commitment than we already are.
On top of that, we have 70% of people 16 and above “fully vaccinated” and case numbers are at record highs.
At some point, we need to acknowledge that our medical overlords are not credible, not trustworthy, not competent, or a combination of the three.
You forgot the creepiest part. The requirement to write out where you are going and for how long when going for food etc.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 Well, I don't know anything about that. The cops appear to be stopping people and demanding answers to those questions, but I've never documented my movements in that way.
@@monsieurmitosis My buddy over there has to literally write out his predicted path and reason for leaving his home.
@@vagabondwastrel2361 For what reason? The government is making some ridiculous demands, there's no question about that, but even in Melbourne, the epicentre of this bullshit, I've never heard of anything like that. Does he have to travel back and forth from regional and metropolitan areas or something?
I just read an article on your town, looks like a third of the cases were caused by parties for the Football Grand Final. I have no idea how popular that is because I’m American but don’t you think that could be the cause for the spike? And then once they have it and return to their lockdown they spread it with who they live with?
October 18th, 2021 here.
Uhh, yeah... all of Hasan’s points are crap and Trump was right all along. 🤷🏼♂️
They’ll still blame people for not wearing enough masks. And now it’s not enough people have the vaccine. The deaths are up and we have the highest so far amount of vaccinated people. It makes no sense
@@christopherkey2272 facts
really, i'm still waiting on covid to go away in april with the heat. i guess we should have asked trump for clarification as to the year
@@christopherkey2272 yeah it’s the fault of the unvaxxed. Even though you look at Africa and Utar Pradesh, very low vax rates, very high HCQ consumption. Everywhere that has high vax rates has high case rates for the most part, like Israel. Why is that?
@@cappylover192 We know now that the vax lowers the efficacy of the natural immune system for, at least, 2 weeks. That's one reason why so many people still got COVID. The vax efficacy is probably more like 25 to 35%, not 95% like they claimed.
Using a 3 month old CDC study disclaimer as your argument against literally every public health official is some of the most mind boggling mental gymnastics that I've seen in a long time.
"It hasn't been updated since then!"
In an editorial published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), CDC reviewed the latest science and affirms that cloth face coverings are a critical tool in the fight against COVID-19 that could reduce the spread of the disease, particularly when used universally within communities. There is increasing evidence that cloth face coverings help prevent people who have COVID-19 from spreading the virus to others.
www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html
"Literally every public health official" lol
@@Mr.Pants45 Yep.
One thing I don't get, does micheal have no clue about the scientific method? He's talking about credibility as if it's some moral debate things change as we learn new stuff. I mean seriously tell him to look up the definition of the scientific method, something he should have learnt in school.
@@neileapenninan8706 He doesn't care.
The point of a moderator is to be moderate...
Totally this Moderator is a hack.
and point out blatant lies to keep the discussion honest.
@@phxsisko Why don't people understand this?
@@geraldpuse7823 example?
@@krschu00 clearest example was calling for a drinking game when Michael noted Shay's Rebellion. The less obvious examples were consistently giving Hasan the "last word" on the topics. At one point he tried to call out Michael on a point Michael was making, but never attempted to call out Hasan on blatantly false information.
Haasan puts to much credence on government policy when there are multiple conflicting studies that have been silenced because they don't fit a political agenda.
true
Name two ‘conflicting studies’ from universities during 2020 regarding healthcare.
@@Bmanritchie Mask efficacy, ivermectin, natural immunity.
@@Thaijler - Let me rephrase:
TWO DIFF UNIVERSITIES that have CONFLICTING results using the SAME METHODOLOGY about ONE ASPECT of healthcare.
Put up or shut up.
@@Bmanritchie Ok let me rephrase what I said. There are studies that go against the left wing media narrative.
Did you consider the fact that 2 "approved" drug companies had varying results with vaccine efficacy?
Your agrument has an innate bias built in to it. Thats like saying name 2 studies from the 60s conducted by tobacco companies that prove cigarettes are bad.
Wow, this aged poorly for The Piker.
Imagine that!
The right is winning 🔥
Elex: Gennermen, welcome.
Me: This is gonna be trash...
Well job.
I thought I misheard it, I had the same feeling
Omg thank you, this. You made me laugh so hard. I closed the video as soon as I heard that. But then came back just to read comments lololol
I had to replay it a few times when I heard it to make sure It wasn't just me.
Mom can't even spell Alex.
“He has a nice studio”😂😂😂😂😂
i cringed when he asked hasan to give him a compliment knowing how much hasan hates those bullshit displays of unity lmao
@@michaelbergamo2332 It's so fucking funny it's like he wants to say fuck outta here with that shit
I enjoy these exchanges you bring together. They are not chauvinistic and can be seen as productive. I especially appreciate you not adding input as to take a particular side on the issues, instead remaining neutral as you should.
Just in case anybody didn’t know this I just wanted to point out that Hasan is not very intelligent. When he is on his own channel every argument he makes sounds like it’s coming from a stereotypical 80s movie bully. It’s never anything of substance all he does is mock the person he disagrees with without adding anything to it. The fact that he is as influential as he is is truly a detriment to society.
You mean cenk's nephew..
Stereo typical
@@lavatun he’s also someone’s son.
@@manoblancos my bad. talk to text.
@@AustimosPrime it's a meme.. Everybody calls him cenk's nephew instead of his name coz the only reason he got a job on tyt is coz of nepotism which he supposedly is against..
This moderator is awfully aggressive towards one side to be a moderator.....
No our moderator is trying to steer the conversation out of idiocracy since one side is just a spouting pure bull shit
@@dattboii6541 lmao what cringe comment. He debates with Knowles rather the ask questions. What terrible "moderator", definitely steering clear of this cancer.
@@Drunkgamer904 literally the other guy cited an outdated Cdc article and hasan gave him a study that showed mask stop the spread of the virus by 70% thank Knowles ignores that study and said faucci didnt wear a mask at 1 point if you dont think that's idiocracy than your an idiot
I mean, sure. Maybe the moderator should not have asked such pointed questions or argued, but Michael was being ridiculous. This isn't even a partisan issue. I am willing to be charitable and say that Michael got anxious and caved into making really weak points because he panicked from the pressure. I am not, however, going to pretend that his arguments were good.
@@jordansunix-basedmachine5222 If you actually listen to him break down his arguments on his show you might have a deeper understanding.
Lmao Hasan ran circles around him. Michael is not used to debating people from the left that aren't morons it seems. He even seemed to give up towards the end.
I’m guessing you didn’t watch the video, you know hasan is on your side so you automatically view him as the winner. Typical leftist behavior!
@Benito Thambiraj if a centrist were to tell you Michael did well and hasan didn’t it wouldn’t change your mind.
Just remember 70 million Trump supporters are pissed off yet not one fucking building has been burned down! Not fucking one!!
@@goatlandia8457 you're comparing apples to oranges here, they burned down buildings in protest of a police officer that killed a man in broad daylight, why would the trump supporters burn down buildings just because they lost an election?
@@goatlandia8457 The pandemic has only gotten worse and I’ll sign show to another massive lock down after Thanksgiving Hindsight shows his stepson was right about masks and people arguing against them clearly are only doing it for the political reasons
@@jewberto1220 the night of the election anti American democrats were burning down buildings and it wasn’t because of racial injustice.
These people fucking HATE America! I mean they fucking HATE HATE HATE America!
3 years later Michael Knowles comes out on top
Imagine hassan saying "On top of the hour every hour there is a 60sec adbreak......." 🤣
Imagine having to debate your opponent and the mediator.....
Just to make it an equal match! 😉
zingiestmeerkat I mean it’s fine to support knowles, everyone has their own opinions, but he sounded like an idiot in this debate and idk how you can deny that.
Imagine not saying dumb shit and therefore not needing the moderator to moderate
Joe S in what way?
Joe S did you watch the same interview I did? Because what I saw was the moderator allowing Hasan to speak for minutes on end about several different points and only allowing Michael to respond to one point very briefly. The moderator was clearly biased. Also how in any way did Knowles come off as an idiot? The guy made very clear arguments.
“Gentermen”
I thought I was the only one 😃😂
Men? I prefer gentlethey
Why doesn’t Elix just debate himself. He so obviously takes sides it basically just becomes two v one
I love how the only person getting emotional was the host
People killing people at a funeral is an issue about over policing?
Lol. Id call it pure hatered. How are the police to blame for someone else's poor choices
exactly. the fact that he implied Chicago is over-policed is laughable .
It was white supremacists killing blacks people at the funeral. But white supremacists are “good people” according to trump and MANY police are white supremacists so they won’t be held accountable
@@indominusdragonlee1805 white supremacists killing black people at a funeral? What? It was 3 africa-americans (one of them identified as Nuemonei Travon Laster) ... wtf stop doing drugs .. if this is trolling then it's not funny
@@indominusdragonlee1805 There is a quick way to fact check this statement you made. Check your fake news media outlets like CNN or MSNBC. If it had been white supremacists, they would have been covering this story 24 x 7. Checking.... no sorry, they covered it once, found out it was gang related, and moved on to cover more important issues like how often Donald Trump wears his mask.
And the right says that leftists are snowflakes😂😂
You gotta understand that everyone gets offended, that's human nature. It's what you do in response that matters. Since the mainstream right has taken the clearly stronger position on free speech, they may not like something but they will never ask for It's removal, for eg from college campuses which the left is famous for doing.
Furthermore the left has gotten more snowflake like as they have gotten younger through the decades, while the right has gotten less snowflake mainly because of religion not being as dogmatic as intersectionality. Victim worship on left is more sacred than God worship on right.
Yall cry about safe spaces then need turing point u asa (safe space) to pay college's to let republicans argue with kids insted of real pundits
@@danstan7274 what?? No one stops leftists to come into these so called conservative speakers' halls. Anyone can come. The fact that people riot in Berkeley even if the speaker is a centrists speaks volumes. Jon haidt talked about these people in the coddling of American mind. Also the mainstream left is not as soft, and neither is the right. I'm talking about college culture, and it will spill over into society over the next years.
@@shauryadivya1736 you need million dollar donations and to make a whole orginization (safe space no matter how much you don't like it) to try and push your ideas when its your belief that ideas should succeed in the free marketplace of ideas L
@@shauryadivya1736 no just lefties
What a respectable debate
Wouldn’t it be great for our politicians to sit down and have a conversation without thinking of the next “OWNED the other side” moment for social media? Imagine a civil conversation between Gaetz and AOC? I can’t imagine half of congress able to speak without shouting at each other.
Would've loved to have heard Knowles talk.
Damn, must be deaf then.
@@RobinVanPersie1998 Joke was Piker talked way more than Knowles there sport
He did and sounded like an idiot using outdated data to backup erroneous claims.
PHX-Sisko sheesh. Not even 4 months and the data is outdated. It’s almost like the results of these “studies” change based on political utility.
@@joshcarter5759 Lmao.
These comments are awfully ironic now considering the president and cabinet members/First Lady are infected
i know, i'm reading them right now
@Aru Gula i think you missed the point
@Aru Gula something about the internet and stupid seems to be a theme for some ppl. you can make all the snark remarks you want, you still missed the point
@Aru Gula do you know the expression 'right over the head'
@Aru Gula so now, you're resorting to insults. while you waste your breathe not thinking about why the comment went over your head?
Insulting me, doesn't make it any less so that you missed the point.
I have no idea why Hasan was in this debate. He has a high school diploma at best, and his job is to act like an idiot on the internet for people to laugh at. Knowles is college educated and his job is all about politics and social issues. Lopsided af debate
He has such an ego. All he does is talk about socialism to a bunch of impressional 10-20 year olds in his chat all day while at the same time benefiting from his viewers wallets.
Brown Fabio made his bones being attractive on twitter and instragam, then jumped on his uncles bandwagon and started preaching unbridled socialism to his very large young audience, whos already been indoctrinated by academia to be biased toward socialism
Haha are republicans any different?!?
@@alexanderg1297yeah he’s purely for entertainment lmao, nothing he say has any coherence or logic
This did not age well for Hasan
I added up all of the time between Knowles and Piker. Enjoy.
Mask Mandate
Knowles: 4:20
Piker: 6:09 (last word)
President Trumps Approach
Knowles 1:37
Piker 2:17 (last word)
The Feds Move In
Knowles: 2.09
Piker: 6:36 (last word)
The Election
Knowles: 1:24
Piker: 4:11 (last word)
TOTAL: Knowles 9:30
Piker 19:13
You do realise that Michael isn't making any points when he is given time. They didn't talk over each other so Michael could have done so. Hasan was making points with evidence but Michael was only using anecdotes.
@@shridharbiju7370 lol the only real anecdote was his use of masks comment everything else he cited actual facts... Right, they didn't talk over each other but Michael wasn't given the time to reply to the comments. As a moderator this is what you need to account for and as for as debates go I think this was still better then a lot of them.
You should measure by words 😂
I truly feel sorry for the education you got if you think any of that happened
@@shridharbiju7370 bwhahahahahahahaha yes Micheal brings up CDC, Cenks nephew "well that doesn't count"
Lol
It’s not the government’s job to protect my health. It’s the government’s job to protect my rights. It’s my job to protect my health. When you trade liberty for safety you end up losing both.“
yes but if you don't protect your health good enough (wear a mask and socially distance), then the health of every single person you come in contact with is at risk. The cycle continues
Your paying twice as much for healthcare then you should be
Agreed.
I guess this is what privilege sounds like.
Actually according to the UN's universal declaration of human rights it should be your governments job to give you accessable healthcare. You guys just don't wanna listen to human rights thats all.
Interviewe asked Knowles if he wears a mask.
Knowles explains
Hasan: Let's stop using anecdotal data
Hasan: Explains why it’s a good to wear a mask and doesn’t politicize the issue.
Also Knowles: but it all a political issue and moves the issue away from the main topic
I’m late but it’s because Knowles said he’s been just fine so far
@@ImSerg you: didn’t actually listen
Wow the host *always* let Hasan get the last word, that is hilarious
This Host/Moderator is extremely biased.
*based
Reality has a left wing bias
@@seanhubbard6033 It depends on how you define left-wing. Center-left, then sure. But if you go too far left, they start sounding like a religion where narratives matter more than facts. We see this with some of the BLM people and Marxist ideology. And financially, the left has always tended to drift into unreality, where the systems they propose don't usually work.
The truth is that ideology is the start of losing grip on reality. The further you follow ideology rather than facts/evidence/results, the further you drift into unreality. This can happen on either side, and at times in history, one side tends to be more out of touch than another. We see that in many cases, the left, in general, is now drifting too far into ideology.
Elex is clearly biased 🤷♀️
and emotional. poor little guy
No kidding. That was pretty ridiculous.
Welcome to being a conservative. The entirety of the political institution, including its subsidiaries in the media and academia are arrayed against you
dont worry after civil war begin and libtard get beat up that reporter will kiss ass conservative again
@@RustyFruit I don't agree with Knowles on masks, though I tend to agree with him on most things.
But I don't care if he's saying that masks give you the ghey, it's not the moderator's position to take a side. He's there to facilitate the debate. There are rules to this kind of thing. Even in an informal setting.
this debate was incredible wtf
I am just going to point out that the study that Michael noted was for influenza and had no mention of Covid in the report at all.
Would it make a difference? If covid is easier to spread would that not make masks less effective then they are with the flu.
@@7EiamJ7 Well first of all siting an Influenza report while there is loads of reports specifically about Covid which say masks do work is kinda weird already but let's say we just treat it as another Covid report. Covid and the Flu are not the same. Covid is more contagious and spreads from a different virus which are two variables not used in that report because it is only about Influenza. That could effect things. And if Covid is easier to spread it would not make masks less effective if the basis for Influenza is to not wear them in the first place. It's probably redundant to wear a mask with the flu but because of Covid being different it makes sense.
@@noname-mw7oy unless the droplets for covid and flu are different does it matter what the report is on?
Covid has become very politicised so arguably a pre pandemic report on mask effectiveness may carry more weight.
@@7EiamJ7 I'm not sure on the specific differences of the droplets but there is obviously some differences because there is a pretty sound conclusion that masks do help to prevent the transmission of Covid and this one study about the Flu saying otherwise doesn't change that when the mast majority say masks are useful for Covid.
@@noname-mw7oy have you got a link to the study?
I remember reading one that was talking about rats in glass containers, so you have four containers, 2 with infected rats, each opposite healthy rats, one had holes in the divider and the other had a clean N95 mask with no gaps, the conclusion being that the masked rat was fine where as the other was not and they concluded masks work. Now I know this is not humans and covid but the problem is that not everyone has a fitted sealed and fresh mask on. To my knowledge that is the issue with telling people masks work, they come to believe it will work regardless of what the mask is made of, how clean it is and how well fitted it is, plus the false sense of security can lead to a more lax attitude for other simple measures like washing hands and staying a distance from others. I can tell you from experience that not wearing mask keeps people away haha.
Watching Hassan trying to act like an intellectual is gold
He's a good parrot.
Thank you, was waiting for someone to say that. I’m pretty sure he’s reading his responses off a screen. Come on, he’s wearing a Hawaiian shirt at a debate
It does look like LARPing
Hasan is the embodiment of group think. The individual ability to think for him or herself is repressed to accommodate the group. Usually, the group narrative is controlled by those who control our mainstream science, media, education and politics which have alternative motives. That's why "democratic socialism" sounds like a wonderful idea to those who think like Hassan, but its a trojan horse which the federal government, central banks and corporations will have ALL the control.
He is like shockingly stupid. Even worse, he gets a lot of followers on twitch.
rewatching this 2 years later its crazy to see how wrong hasan and elex were
I just found this for the first time too. I love rewatching COVID debates just to remember how crazy the whole era got
It’s amazing how much confidence and conviction he has in being so wrong. I would be so embarrassed
How us ge wrong?!?!?
@@denkinoms Saying that the government didn’t do enough. The democrats pushed for shutdowns and tons of spending now inflation is through the roof. We said to let the kids go to school, the democrats refused, and after all this time locked inside our houses mental health crisis is worse than ever, just like the opposite side of hasan said it would be. The government shut down peoples businesses and ruined lives for a virus that spread regardless. He said we should listen to the health officials when we had been lied to over and over again. No humility that I’ve seen tho from the left or Hasan.
How was he wrong?
Michael’s comments have aged like fine wine.
The other guys comments have aged like organic lettuce accidentally left in the vegetable crisper while you went on vacation
Damn I’m sad I got this recommended 3 months late. Michael Knowles is such a grifter it’s pathetic
I’m surprised Michael Knowles did this, he’s clearly better than this Hasan “I benefit from nepotism” Piker.
I remember Hasan debating Charlie Kirk and every single leftist said hasan owned Kirk yet all the centrists who didn’t have a dog in the fight admitted Kirk won.
We live in a world where your political party is more important than ideas. “Durr me voting against Trump, don’t kurr who dat democrat is me jus want Trump gone ya hurrrrrd. I’m finna gonna catch someone outside if they be warin maga hats cuz we been told they racist without jack fuck for evidence. Evidence? Who care bout evidence when we got this built up rage we gone beat anyone up, loot and riot, f America!!”
@@goatlandia8457 Michael got worked plain and simple
@@mookiestewart3776 yeah you provided absolutely zero evidence to back up your baseless claim.
@@goatlandia8457 good point
At least he allows his debate opponents to speak without interruption. I can respect the hell out of that.
The fact Hassan buttoned his Hawaiian shirt’s top button makes him lose
lol
@kylerobertm I think the joke is that he did something no sane person would, taking an extremely informal shirt that's meant to be unbuttoned, and buttoning it and using it for a formal fashion.
Making himself not to be taken seriously
@Karen Kasparian Yo where's your profile picture from?
@Karen Kasparian Nah I'm not attractive, that pfp is tho was wondering if she has an instagram
Can someone send this back to Hassan now and see his reaction... I just want him to admit he was wrong loool
He doesn't have enough self awareness to acknowledge that he's wrong, unfortunately.
You'd probably get destroyed Hasan. I know this because you made a statement that he was wrong without actually coming up with points to refute his arguments. This is how most unintellectual people function.
great example of juxtaposing an authoritarian with a libertarian. Not entirely sure what good can come of a conversation like this. Cenks Nephew is a huge big government advocate that doesn't mind lying or misleading to make his point. But don't take my word for it, check Actual Justice Warrior's critique of him. But again, how can you have a conversation when the 2 sides don't agree in how facts are 'interpreted'
This was a decent debate. They disagreed mostly respectfully. Cheers to both!
one with facts and one with emotion
@@greenburg2276 true, michael is pretty emotional
@@hinasakukimi Hasan was even more emotional
@@hinasakukimi pointing out sweden was more successful by actually following the science is emotional? But saying "we need to open safely" isnt emotional?
@@enterpassword3313 you're right, "we need to open dangerously" is far more logical
Summary: Hassan talks for 10 minutes at a time making 50 points. Michaels gets to respond for 30 seconds to one of the points.
He also gets to jab on three or four lies in so Michael only gets to redact 1 lie
Michael is slow and doesn't make any points other than personal anecdotes bro...
@@tjones6277 that's a cool story bruh..
@@MediaBuster you must be reading very short and simple stories. You find it on the kindergarten bookshelf?
@@jackmerry1972 *That's **_exactly_** where Tristan's story likely came from.*
Please revisit this debate
Dude's shirt looks like a map from 1506.
Love that this guy gets clapped by a twitch streamer.
@Emanuel me, that's my opinion. If you have a different one that's fine and I respect that.
@@flintstonebeard2327 Knowles didn't get clapped and Hasan had a job in politics...
What are you ten? Go watch ninja you clown
@@Digger-Nick wow someone cant deal with others having an opinion lmao. And by job in politics do you mean when he worked for TYT. You know when he had a job in the news industry? I'm unaware of him being any sort of politican, and would love to hear about his time in public service.
@@flintstonebeard2327 Google is free. He’s graduated magna cum laude in political science from Rutgers
@@chris-_-6839 and you understand that having a degree and working in the field are two different things. Hugh jass said he had a job in politics and that simply isn't true. Hes only ever been in the news industry. I don't know what I said that's so triggering that two people had to come here and show their ignorance.
Hasan: Political Commentator with the most drip periodt
Political commentator with the most nepotism as well 🔥
pea pod Cenk’s nephew 🔥
Knicksboncho tucker Carlson is their heir of the Swanson family fortune...
@@jennbaker6964 Whataboutism
@@alliums361 Cope with what? I like Hasan, I've listened to a fair view of his interviews and lately his CZcams channel.
Watching this back, I feel like Knowles has a weird soft spot for Hasan.
Has Hasan Piker ever said anything that's aged well
Biden won an trump lost.
No
Yes
The supreme court is currently making decisions on whether or not to remove the miranda warnings that police officers say before arresting. Seems like hasan saying its a dangerous precedent to not read these rights before arresting people, AKA kidnapping people aged well.
"Trump is desperately trying to capture his withering support".
Fastforward to today, Trump lost the election and is becoming increasingly more irrelevant. Then yeah, what Hasan said aged pretty well.
It is Knowles takes that never age well. He is just a propaganda mouthpiece with a shit-eating-grin-piece.
And the host is biased. Sooooo🤷♀️
He kept moving on before Michael could finish his say
biased towards facts?
Cade Tormanen because he was taking too long and taking out of his ass
Bambino get some new material, the whole facts shtick is so old
@@joes7396 You're talking about Hasan, right?
Knowles everytime Hasan speaks: "I agree with you on that point but actually no I don't."
he does that so Piker doesn't start to cry...... he's trying to keep him in the debate, cause he's inclusive(unlike liberals :D)
@@itkojecockot hasan isn't a liberal LMAOOOO
@@itkojecockot Hasan is not a fucking liberal hahahahaaaaa
@@itkojecockot Smooth take from you
Smooth brained, that is
@@itkojecockot b-b-but he doesnt like liberalz!!!!
These days if anyone has a bad idea but has the guts to stand up for it, they’re given a podium. There is truth and then lies. America is always rooting for the underdog even if their ideas are horrible.
Victimhood Culture
This has aged like fine wine
Why is that??
Hassan’s face at the end shows you he really enjoyed that studio comment 😂
Haha yes
Yes, he probably thought it was a very witty piece of banter.
@j - k Lol, no