Axis and Allies Anniversary Series: Video 5, Fighter Escorts and Interceptors
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- In this video, I discuss the "Fighter Escorts and Interceptors" optional rule for Anniversary. I review why I feel this optional rule is necessary and demonstrate "Green Skies", a strategy you can employ as the American (or perhaps German) player to lethal effect if this optional rule is NOT used.
*EDIT 7/20/21 - At 4:01, separate dice are rolled for fighters AND bombers when hit by AA in Anniversary Edition. I had to edit out the specifics of the AA combat in this video after posting as I made a small but critical error in how casualty selection worked. I will address this in video 12 of this series.
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Great video... had a massive argument with my playmate on why we should close the Dardanelles... He finally agreed to it but took some convincing. Also we didn't play with the escort interceptors rule to end up just like you said with 8 American bombers raiding the Axis IC on T3 to devastating effect... Will now always play with both optional rules on.
This type of comment is one that I most appreciate. Glad to hear that you were able to demonstrate how devastating it is w/o escorts and interceptors. I think the playing experience will be much better going forward. Happy gaming my friend.
Are jets better at interception combat ?
We're trying these all out in a few weeks!
Sounds good... but I'm also interested to know exactly what "these" are that you're trying out?
@@thegoodcaptain1217 Oh, sorry.
The entire recommended rules set from you for the AE 1942 setup - including fighter escort rules.
We've had issues on agreeing on bids and balance before...
Thanks for some awesome videos!
@@Emanon... Ah, okay - roger that. Indeed, happy gaming my dude!
Great video series on Anniversary. I'd love to see your take on A&A Europe in the future. I've recently bought the game and really enjoy playing in solo because it's relatively quick.
Do you mean the original from 1999 or Europe '40?
@@thegoodcaptain1217 The original. By now I find its best to hard charge into Russia as Germany. Curious on the allies strategy because Germany seems to win almost always.
@@christopherwilson2606 this is the one I’m doing next along with its companion, Pacific. This will take at least two years though. Hard to find players and TripleA is deficient to the point of unplayable for both. But I’ll get the videos out eventually.
@@thegoodcaptain1217 I'll still be playing. Let me know if I can be of any help. I'll definitely buy and play the Pacific in the meantime.
@@christopherwilson2606 ah, cool. Might have to take you up on that. Email me at ryanvoz@yahoo.com if you’d like.
As a kid playing this game, I used to build nothing but bombers as USA just to mess with my friends who were newer to the game (and to give them a chance to actually do something other than get steamrolled by me). Obviously, I was just sending the Bomber stacks on joyrides, attacking land stacks on purpose to trade at negative value to myself (as a means of dragging the game out and give people more familiarity with the basic flow of the game).
Who could have guessed that my joke strategy could actually get flipped around to be meta-relevant?
Hi captain I would like to ask a question: is the escorts and interceptors rule still valid when the territory which is bombed has no antiaircraft? Because with this rule it seems like antiaircraft is kinda useless because defending fighters roll at 2 instead of 1. I'm curious about the response, greetings captain
How did you get the impression the AA gun was useless? I may be misunderstanding your question, but since the AA gun fires first and since ALL attacking air units can be hit BEFORE the air battle, this appears to make the AA guns even more valuable than before. They will be able to cull escorts from the bombers and give your defending interceptors a better chance to survive. Let me know if I misunderstood your question.
@thegoodcaptain1217 I think it's because most bombing are done with just one bomber and l can barely (as the allies) find a way to bring fighters in the fight, so the axis to counter a bombing can just put a fighter that defends at 2 instead of a AA gun at 1
@@pasbaf ah. I got you. Yes - the cool thing about this for the AA gun owner is the ability to move it forward to a combat zone or area of the board where it can help deter air attacks - keep in mind this might then require a fighter over each IC every turn when an enemy bomber is in range. This can become - inconvenient…
So in short, AA guns are less bound to their IC than they were before allowing them more flexibility to move to forward positions
What page is it on? I looked everywhere in the rulebook and couldn't find it
As stated at 1:03, this is from the official errata. www.axisandallies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Axis-Allies-50th-Anniversary-Errata-FAQ.pdf
I recall a limited damages rule, a factory can't be bombed by more than the ipc value it is in, Germany is 10. I might have the wrong game in mind. Do jets intercept better ? German production increased as we bombed them more, when our bombers focused on all German fuel production the effects became immediate, I've run some WW2 machine shop equipment, they didn't know how to make them light, very heavy and nearly impossible to bomb, might melt a few wires but they had them machines up and running again quickly. today's big machines wouldn't survive as well, lots of thin walled castings that wouldn't have nearly the same rigidity as the old school equipment.
Unlimited damage in the capital I think, 6 fighters there should average $20 or more in interception kills, plus anti aircraft hits, this ain't no cheap attack, if Italy can only be bomed for ,$6 max, it's possible the German losses might not exceed the attacker's.
The IC can receive up to twice the value of the territory. Germany can take 20 hits, Italy can take 12. In my experience, that's plenty enough to seize both economies.
@@thegoodcaptain1217I see, I'm remembering classic rules I think. Are the bombers able to get shot down before the bombing happens? Ie...selective AA hits, and do the interceptor fighters ever hit the escorted bombers..ie..every other hit must be a bomber or the attacker gets to choose all interception casualties ?
@@mikedearing6352 there is no limit to IPC loss in Classic from bomb damage. It is paid directly to the bank as soon as the dice are rolled.
In Anniversary, the bombers can be shot down prior to the bomb run. Escorts and bombers will both be shot at but with separate rolls for each - i.e. the owner of the bombers/escorts does not get to decide how those hits are allocated. He could NOT have the interceptors absorb the AA hits.
I don't have the rule book right in front of me, but I'm pretty sure the movement restriction on the Dardanelles Strait is not an optional rule.
The optional rule is cited and sourced throughout this video. Either way, no, its not in the rulebook, its in the official errata (as an optional rule): axisallies.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/axis-allies-rules-anniversary-corrections-faqs.pdf
@@thegoodcaptain1217 I don't quite know what to make of that. The optional rule section makes it sound (to me) like only the part about air units not being able to move through that sea zone is optional, and sea units still can't enter it no matter what. But now I'm not seeing anything at all in the rulebook about how that sea zone is treated, so I don't know.
@@dirkdiggler9482 At this point, I'm confused about what is confusing you, lol.
@@thegoodcaptain1217 I don’t know what more to say. The way it’s worded, it sounds to me like only the part about air units being able to move through that sea zone is optional and sea units still can’t enter it.. Look at it yourself again if you don’t know what I mean.
@@dirkdiggler9482 I think you’re confused in that you believe there is some mention in the rule book that restricts naval movement into sz 16. There is not. This errata is the first mention of any naval restriction.
Where’d you get those stands to hold the planes? I’ve looked everywhere for them and couldn’t find them
historicalboardgaming(dot)com
Thanks! Can’t wait to use them in my next game
I have never seen Warsaw that badly misplaced on the map
Agreed though I feel like that was done for formatting purposes / clarity.