Full Power! Full Speed!! Vintage Engine Drives Giant Wheel...
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Finally it's working! But only because I managed to get a wooden clutch wheel working, to tighten and slacken the flat belt...
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Just put up a sign "This is a pass fail intelligence test. Losing life or limb is a fail."
Funny until some kid wanders in that doesn’t know any better
@@redmorphius still a fail.
87.1 percent of modern people would fail that test
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That's why we need the test.
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This is amazing and super terrifying at the same time, I can't wait to see it hooked up to the slicer. Maybe you can make an enormous salad? :)
Keep it up Tim!
Industrial quantities of minced garlic!😉
Wow......who's up for a salad party!!!
If he were to do that, it would be a good idea to make said salad before beginning to use the slicer for charcoal. So, you don't have a nice dressing of charcoal dust. And he would need to clean & sharpen the slicer beforehand as well.
@@epicstormchaserswf - a dusting of charcoal over the salad is not necessarily a bad thing. Charcoal absorbs toxins and medicinal charcoal can literally be eaten by the handful. One would imagine that it tastes absolutely awful, but it is actually slightly sweetish. Not an unpleasant taste at all.
@@friendlypiranha774 Well then, I guess if he wanted to make the salad then Hes ready to go then :)
Great work and wonderful to see it working at speed. There is a high degree of safety in having a machine that looks you straight in the eye and says: "Every part of me will kill you or mangle you horribly if you don't act with care and respect around me."
You still need a micro adjuster mechanism for the belt on the engine mounts. Make the engine frame mount to the floor capable of rotating the vertical axes by a threaded bolt and lock nut.. Think of a bench mounted belt sander - how does it keep the belt on? By moving side to side the non driven roller.. Just gives a little movement and crucially stops the edges of the belt fraying when it runs off.. Which it will..
This construction looks really similar to the machine that stands around at the tractor meet in our town, built by the Herforder Motorenwerke. The only difference is that the engine is bigger and slower, and that a second belt powers a big generator, but it also has a momentum wheel, all while standing on a trailer. Fantastic build you have there, especially on the engineering side.
Did a good job Tim. I guess I should have said that at low speeds the belts tend to wander a bit more than they do at high speeds. They are designed to be run at the correct speeds, which is why old timers will tell you to never slow down the machine as that is how accidents happen.
Either way super job and it looks like it will work. I am damn sure that you have more than enough power and you should not find any slipping.
Thanks, William. I hadn't heard that about slowing belts down - but it makes sense
Absolutely brilliant, what a lot of fun - and it works. What’s not to like? 😀👍
Really a wild machine. That’s a lot of energy stored in that fly wheel. Thanks for sharing your build. A pleasure to see. It must be truly awesome in the ‘flesh’.
Honestly haven't been so excited about a youtube channel for years. Past few months of seeing this absolute monster of a machine come together has been brilliant, and I'm so happy when I see a new video come out. From the garlic harvests and railway improvements to this, it's been a fun ride, and continues to be so!
It really makes your realize just how dangerous those old belt driven workshops were. Well done!
Making the pulley convex is the right way to go, it is based on the "Hunting" principle where a flat object like a belt will automatically avoid going off the sides of the pulley and will always stay on the clown of the pulley. Train wheels are a very good example.
Tim please treat this machine with the utmost respect. You have a lot of kenetic energy in that wheel. If the belt was to fall off and get caught up in the wheel or engine,IT WILL pick up either the engine or wheel or both and hurl them all the way to Cork.
Please please please do your research into the forces involved.
Well done Tim ! Most impressive, rub a piece of wood on the spare engine flywheel to slow its down if you get bored waiting for it to stop.
It's so satisfying to watch this genius at work. A real inspiration for sure 😃
I don't know about genius but it's good entertainment
I do love your videos Tim, in fact I don't mind putting it out there I've grown very fond of your positive attitude, ingenious solutions and fabulous (really, really fabulous) narration. The trouble is, each time I think we've reach peak risk, it goes another level higher: no laxatives required here I can assure you! There's just something about this wheel, and it is the most amazing build, that terrifies me. I'd hate to see on the news that there has been a bizarre accident involving a flat belt, an impossibly large, heavy wheel, a smokey old engine and bits of man, donkey and dog.
Always such an amazing sound! I do have to say, that after you expressed concern in the belt possibly getting caught someone, you still passed the camera under it. But what a fantastic beast you've made!
How can something so beautiful also be so terrifying?! Fred dibnah would have loved this!
Tim! Would be soooo nice if you could do a video with just the engine being started, then clutch engaged, then leave it running for a minute or two, but without the slicer, and also without the clunking sound! Would be so cool to hear all of that!
Well done. You are getting there, Tim. It gets more interesting and exciting with every video.
What a terrifying monster…..eager to devour whatever it can grip.
More often than not belt tension pulleys are placed on the slack side of the belt system. It is more forgiving of misalignment that way. You can also get more belt contact with the drive pulley if the tension pulley is placed close to the engine.
Absolutely superb. “The clunking adds drama” 😂 I think I’d want to try and stop it nevertheless.
I'm so excited i nearly wet myself giggling with glee as the wheel spun up.
I wonder if, in a pinch, spinning up the big wheel manually with the belt under tension might get the engine spinning quick enough to start.
I've been wondering that too - I'll have to try it won't I?!
Amazing - but Blimin heck you can see how industrial accidents could happen! once it's up and working some nice big bits of ply or corrugated iron covers over most of it, so you can't slip and fall into that wheel!
Don't come running to me if it whips your leg off.😀
Brilliant, I'm with you get it working 1st, there is a lot of R&D going on here and its not like your in the middle of a factory or anywhere crowded. You must be really proud of you achievement so far. 👍
So, so interesting, you are another Tim Hunkin, a now rare, British eccentric inventor 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Awesomeness at its best. I’m keen to see the chipper you’ve got attached. It will be flawless with all those moments of inertia you’ve now got.
We had a Massey-Harris 33 and 333 on the farm and used the belt drives to drive a few implements up through the late 1960s. Mostly to crush grain or shell corn
(not a criticism) WHEEL OF DEATH! WHEEL OF DEATH! ... Something I recall from an acrobat show with this huge rotating contraption. That is beautiful! Can't wait to see it powering the the Chop'n'grind 3000.
Yay, New video!
What a beautiful yet at the same time terrifying machine you have built there Tim. I really enjoy watching you build it and can't wait to see the final assembly with your charcoal grinder working.
There is a whisper of standing in the early 20th century here some where. Keep it up tim.
I am always amazed how creative you and your projects are.
Absolutely stunning
Keep movin', movin', movin'
Though they're disapprovin'
Keep that weel movin'
Way out west!
Don't try to understand 'em
Just rope 'n' throw and roll 'em
Soon we'll be livin' high and wide
My heart's calculatin'
True love will be waitin'
Be waitin' at the end of my ride
😁
To make it impossible for the belt to fall off when disengaged, just build a simple guide for the belt at the points where it runs onto the large wheel and the engine pulley, basically like the one side roller at the engine pulley but on both sides of the belt. As long as it doesn't rub constantly on the belt it doesn't need to be a roller, a simple round bar or a water pipe will do the job.
You are absolutely right about not using the flanged pulley. Every time I used one as a kid playing with stuff, the belt would always, always ride up and over it unless the alignment was just about perfect (but not absolutely).
I learned about crowned pulleys when I worked on conveyor belts, they are the industry standard and definitely the way to go when working with belts.
Hello, to keep the belt in the center of the pulleys, the surface of the large wheel must be rounded like the motor pulley, otherwise nothing can prevent the belt from going to one side or the other. It is a physical phenomenon that was well known to the ancients who built the engine. Good luck to you, inventors! I love your work!
The large wheel is rounded. The motor pulley is flat. As it should be.
I'am glad you see broken bones too Tim.
Please be careful. Cheers 🇨🇦
all the planning and staring at it with a cold beverage has paid off thats working splendid.
The frame of that wheel has an awful lot of flex in it for the forces on it, and not just your tensioner.
I'm really hoping you go on to collect the wood gas from the charcoal process and use it to run the standing engine.
How wonderfully circular that would be.
It looks like an industrial revolution under that roof with the old engine, the belt drive and the railway in the background.
I love this do-it-yourself videos. In germany, people are just used to buy everything new instead of creating and building stuff by themselves and maybe reusing old parts. I really looking forward on how your project will turn out in the end.
Keep up that great work.
I think that’s true for a large proportion of the ‘developed’ world, but there are a few individuals like Tim, even in Germany - check out The Post Apocalyptic Inventor channel on CZcams and I’m sure there others, too.
I, too, am amazed at just how much momentum is stored in the engine's flywheels. Enough to turn the giant wheel up to speed!
I'm presuming also that a safety cage will be constructed around the whole contraption.. Maybe a metal frame with a big sheet of steel mesh to at least 6ft around the wheel.. If the belt comes off or snaps... Where's it going if it gets wrapped up in the wheel bearing area.. Its going to flail around HORRENDOUSLY until it stops.. You have to cage it in big lad, not only for your safety but for the uneducated that dont see the danger
I’m amazed at the thoughtfulness you put into the build and the narrative you add. Well done. From a usa backyard engineer. I appreciate your problem solving process.
David I have seen where flat belts use two flat rollers to make a V it rides up both an puts the belt back. It has to be on the return side to the engine
Amazing ingenuity...I love the tensioner solution. You are correct though, in its present state it is extremely dangerous. I'm sure you will soon have it made safe with guards................although ( I reluctantly point out) your exposed wiring on the lathe motor could invoke that age old axiom "one flash and you are ash) Please keep posting. I love your other channel as well
I agree with you. It is terrifying. I love it! I can’t wait to see what is going to happen next. Cool project.
So glad it's all working out, it is a marvel to behold. Well done.
Superb progress. Has all the right sounds and wobbles beautifully; just as a proper machine should! Waiting in anticipation to see her earn her keep. Thank you as ever for posting and giving an old dinosaur such enjoyment.
A totally addictive watch, i can’t wait for the next episode.
Absolutely brilliant to behold, I was positively on the edge of my seat when you cranked it up!!! Beautifully done. Make sure to keep the wood well treated so it doesn't shrink an crack.
Don’t let health and safety anywhere near it. Make a no-go area of six miles around your home. I think for the sake of your engine, you should start the wheel spinning outwards. That way, if it slips it’s moorings it will speed off out into the field and not ruin your wonderful old engine! Brilliant work. Mill factory owners of the 18th C would be proud of you.
I wish you had way more subscribers. Always a hoot. Thanks. Every time you add a complication to the Contraption I think the exponent of risk factor increases. Although it could be a logarithmic scale. Be safe, Be creative and have fun. We do not know our life spans. Enjoy it whilst you can.
I'd thought normally, you'd run that the other way around. Slack side of the belt on top would allow more surface area on the pulleys with gravity pulling the belt down into more contact. Engine would either need to run backwards or be need to be turned around and placed outboard of the belt. If it really needs a tensioner, it would be on top and your weight would be in the dead space below the belt.
This is so awesome and absolutely terrifying at the same time. I love it!
You finally made a wheel to match with your introduction video tim wood workers use a rasp file if you have one you can make a wide groove in the wood so the belt can fit inside to prevent it from sliding
What a great feeling! It’s like seeing one of your children grow up and graduate. Congratulations, I can’t wait to see it shave wood. You’re building a complex, integrated charcoal making system from scrap! Ha, Ha who said adventure has disappeared from the world.
You're having way too much fun Tim, glad to see it. Wonderful watching this in action, nice job! I'll be waiting to see the charcoal cruncher in action too! Be safe, cheers ☸
How Dickensian. You have you own Industrial revolution here. All you need are some workhouse children to get caught up in the machinery.
Well that's down right impressive!
Cheers
Terry from South Carolina USA
Awe Jesus Christ Tim will you call the local priest to bless the fkn thing 😜😂😂😂 class
Put the cover back on the electrics for the lathe motor before the sparks fly !
Amazing, but I would not dare to come closer than 20 meters when in full motion. Absolutely terrifying beast! Please be careful.
In a world in which nearly tool seems digital, it is refreshingly terrifying to see an ingenious mechanical solution to a real-world needs like heating fuel and fertilizer. Bravo, sir!
Add an emergency cut the, "Pulley tensioning rope" device, which can be activated while standing at engine, or elsewhere.
A mechanical equivalent to a "emergency stop switch" circuit with multiple button locations.
It all looks a bit scary, but I'm sure you all are aware of that :)
I admire all your creative solutions to all the problems the shows up. It's brilliant.
The belt pulley on my tractor has grooves to evacuate the air being sucked in under the belt . Doesn't seem logical to increase grip by reducing surface area but the Dyno says it works.
Amazing! (And I love how that big old engine roars to life! :) )
Side note, it might be possible to build a disk brake similar to the eccentric, but mounted on the opposite side, similar to the brakes on motorcycle front tires? Heck, If you had a old motorcycle, you could probably harvest it's brake system without too much trouble.
I'd offer you the system off one of my old tractors (it has a cut-down truck axle gearbox, and so uses modified car brakes), but I'm afraid the Atlantic Ocean is kinda in the way.
that thing is both amazing and scary. you might want to consider a cable run drum break from a car for the flywheel, a simple foot pedal would be able to engage it and it would help if something goes wrong.
its starting to remind me of those giant old steam engines that used to power entire factories, keep up the good work.
This reminds me of the inventions you would see in Wallace and Gromit claymation cartoons.
This channel has more cliffhangers than a Netflix serial killer documentary. I’m buzzing for the next video already
That looks so neat spinning at speed.
Bonkers with bells on. Well done!
Making ideas real. Not so easy but you are brilliant
Tims whirling wheel o’death. Love it, well done 🙂
Brilliant love the sound of that old Bamford Engine.
Tim is doing his own, second industrial revolution!
Fantastic news Just so happy for your team Tim will be watching later it’s good for our health.You should be so proud love what you do Tim .Good luck 🍀
Good to see that Health and Safety haven't prevented another useful creation. Keep it up. We didn't get to the Moon without losing several exception Astronauts.
Impressive 👍 I may be wrong but I think that the belts and curved surface of the wheels are more stable at speed which is why nothing went wrong
I dont have guards on my machinery. Flat belts are less dangerous than v belts and if it goes wrong say you jam your lathe up they usually just slip.
Tim and the infernal machine ..... Wow
Well done with the tracking and tensioner, really runs well. The one thing you should consider when hooking up the slicer is some kind of disconnect or absorber mechanism for when the blade jams. Hooking up the wheel to the slicer with a solid connection is a recipe for disaster. I was thinking of two hollow tubes that fit inside each other with a heavy spring inside that keeps the slicer moving as long as it is cutting but if it jams the spring will compress to keep from bending parts. You should also have a mechanism to stop the slicer when the wheel is still turning.
Well yep it runs!! As long as OH&S don't see it!! Mind blowing when you get the slicer working as well!!
Needs to run oil onto the wigwog drive for the slicer!!
Fantastic!
When something that large doesn’t come lose and take off across the countryside flattening 3 to 5 of the neighbors sheep and continuing on to cause the postman to abandon his duties and flee for his life…it’s a good day!
In one of your last videos I suggested building some sort of clutch, and you said it would be too complicated and infeasible. And now here you are building a clutch 😄
I love all the mechanical solutions you come up with to make work easier on the farm, keep up the good work! If I had a shop like yours I would practically live in there 😂
Ha! No, I thought you meant a clutch between the wheel and the wood-slicer..
@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Oh ya, you're right!
I remember as a child, granny used to take to a grain mill (sorta small like your design) he had lathe type 3 level attachment like steps. The belt used to go over a rigid rod parallel to axis of motor wheel and over a pulley. Pulley made sure the belt doesn't go off the motor end. The stepped attachment actually acted like 3 gear speeds. The grains specifically wheat needed lvl2 and red chilli powder needed lvl1. Rice needed lvl3 for making super fine powder. Those devices still exist and people use. It's called a Flour Mill sorta I think. The minimum quantity he suggested was atleast 5-20kg depending on type of grain. Turmeric powder was the hardest. He had to mill it at all levels slowly at lower RPM. Those leveled runners are there for both engine/motor and the grinding mill. He never stopped the motor when he wanted an emergency stop. He had a metal pole, pre drilled slots in ground and simply slid it off the end. For changing gears as well he used the pole and pre drilled ground holes. Slid first then stop the motor. Top pulley was free to move horizontally. It always ran diagonally. I never completed understood how it was engineered. He never wore any gloves or safety. No guards.
Awesome. Even by your standards that thing is terrifying.
You can wrap tape around the centre of the roller to create a crown and the belt will track perfectly on it. We used this method for numerous different types of belt
Generally for fixed machines the belt length was sized correctly and jumped on to the pulley once the engine was running.
The other alternative was shifting it to a loose pulley.
A free-wheeling pulley seems the safest way, but I'd need my wheel further away and a longer belt, I think
This is frightening and awesome! Good work!
maybe you could use the momentum wheel to start your engine by hand with the clutch engaged
That thing is an absolute beast, I am scared of it behind the computer screen
Really impressive! Wish I had time to work on something like this. Looking forward to seeing them attached together. A simple e- stop could be a quick release knot on the idle pulley lever that you can pull when you need to loosen the belt. (With a loop of rope to catch the lever so it doesn't drop to the ground). Then maybe a friction brake (lever with weight and rubber maybe) against the wheel to slow it down quicker you can also release with a quick release knot too? Would still be slow, but can be remote to where ever your working, with multiple trigger points. Just an idea!
Hey, you should try putting a counterweight on the side where the concrete bucket is so it keeps tension on the belt and you don't have to adjust it. also, you should have a hook on it so you can hook it to start the engine.
amazing to see how much power that translates too
That is magnificent! I love it!
I do have a question though... With the size and leverage of that big flywheel, do you think you could push-start the engine by spinning the flywheel up by hand?
I've seen it done with bigger hit-and-miss engines, where the operator spins up the flywheel like the prop on an old airplane, then once it's going, turns on the fuel to the engine.
Or is that more dangerous than you're comfortable with?
I've been wondering that too - I'll have to try it won't I?!
Just awsome. I can only imagine how terrefying it is to test and adjust this contraption. But the outcome is marvellous as always. Keep up the good work