Panasonic x1500 x2000 cx10 Long Term Review
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Chapters:
00:01 Intro
00:36 Overview
01:45 My General Setup
02:43 Live Streaming
04:12 Monitoring Video
05:05 My Microphones
05:51 The Audio Handle
06:20 The Video LIght
06:48 Low Light Performance
08:46 The Lens Hood
09:24 The Buttons Suck
12:31 The Two Rings
13:25 Gain/Auto Gain
14:09 The Main Button Operations
14:51 Full Auto Setting
16:17 Compared to the..
18:08 I like it
19:09 Autofocus
20:08 Use it with iPad
21:06 Both Screens Work
21:40 No Handle Operation
22:31 App and LIve Stream
23:13 Putting Handle On
23:38 Different Models
25:29 Let Me Ask You..
Thanks for the long term review!
It’s particularly interesting you kept the camera, after all despite its usability flaws. After your first review I was hesitant to invest in one, but since then no other contender packs as much features in such a small body.
Now that events are back, unless there is a surprise camera that pops somewhere, maybe it’s time I give it a try.
Thank you again for sharing your valuable feedback!
Glad the video helped. The handling issues aside, the camera was a good choice and is why I kept it. Image quality is excellent. The camera puts a lot of features in a small package. I still haven't gotten over the buttons. For what it costs Panasonic should have done better. Their other cameras and camcorders have better buttons and ergonomics. Why not this one, ya know. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm I have to choose between the Panasonic 1500 and the Sony AX700. I was oriented towards the 1500 which, despite having a smaller sensor, has 10-bit 422 sampling compared to the Sony 8-bit 420. Which of the two would you recommend? I currently use a Sony AX53.
Rob thanks for the review. You helped make the decision on what Cam to buy for my weddings & events that I do. It’s apparent that I’ll need a mirrorless camera to record along with my camcorder to get those great low light coverages.
I'm glad you found the video helpful. Any larger sensor, even M43, will help in low light. But the camera apdies well with night scenes outside when exposed properly and there is spill light from street lamps or stores. Indoor low light at receptions is difficult, but an onboard light helps that a lot. Good luck. Let me know what you pick up. I love the long zoom for day weddings on the beach.
Robert I have to give you a BIG Thank You for this video. Well done, well done sir!! I just bought this camera about 2 weeks ago and I'm using in a totally different way. I'm plane spotter and aviation enthusiast. I need a camera with the small factor and the zoom, the stabilization, and 4k/60!! I'm new to the camcorder side of things but I'm loving this camera very much so far. I've learned alot from this video (the best I've seen as of yet) so detailed and helpful. I love the battery life too and so far shooting in the Arizona heat I've had NO overheating issues which is important for me. I wish you lived near me I'd probably hire you for hours to just some me more hands on things I need and making those adjustments on the fly. Next up I need to find a good fluid tripod that won't break the bank and that is somewhat portable. Again thank you ~jamie
Hello. Thanks for the kind words. I'm happy to have been a help for you. I like my camera a lot, too (even though the buttons really bug me most of the time). I use mine for everything. It has become my all around camera. Weddings, music videos, live streams.. you name it. It is one great camera. I like it because of the samll form factor, long zoom, and battery life. The image quality is outstanding and it probably has a long use lifespan considering the specs, codec, and durability. This is definitely a keeper. Good luck on your filming. Post a link when you feel like it.
I currently have the Panasonic HC-X1 for Aircraft, it does a bad job of tracking the planes, and always goes out of focus, i was looking at getting the 1500 for Aircraft spotting, and it uses the same Battery as the HC-X1 .
Hello again Robert.....just to make a follow-up on my first comments few days ago. I got my X1500 5 days ago and have tried it a little. YES ! Ergonomic to access the lower buttons isvery poor and it's not easy. Design for that should be review. But to tell you the truth, after few days I got a better way to access them and it's not so bad. Without this matter, I' m very happy with my acquisition, even with this small sensor, I am positivly surprise with the image quality. Alot of features are very good and works well. I am use to work with Full frame and APS-C format camera as Nikon D500 and D800 but this Panasonic has alot of quality and features that I love. So, thanks for your answer and making me confortable with my choice. Finaly....I am an happy videographer ! I will follow you cause I love the way your are working ! Sorry for my english
I'm very happy to hear that you like your X1500. I kept my unit , too. I knew the buttons would be an issue for me right away. I thought about sending it back, but I didn't. The image quality coming out of the camera is superb. I'm very happy with that. I just wish the buttons were better. They bother me every time I use the camera. I try not to touch the settings when I'm using the unit. I really don't like them a lot. But I work around that because the camera is really good otherwise. I'm glad the buttons don't bother you very much. That makes me happy for you. If you ever want to share something, post it here or email me. I'd like to see what you want to share. Your English is great. I really respect people that speak other languages. Cheers and thank you for your comment.
I've just ordered the HX-X2000 and will pair it with my GH5 mark 2 and eventually with the GH6. My reasons are really quite simple I wanted to be able to catch good quality video in auto mode for those occasions where there is no time to to fully set up my GH5 with the correct lens etc. such as when I get a visit from a friendly woodpecker that visits for a few seconds and unless I'm ready flies off before I've got the shot. The ability then to have a camcorder with the audio and codecs of the HC-X2000 means I can also use it as a B roll camera when I've got bags of time to set up all the gear. Your video was extremely useful in forewarning me of some of the issues I will likely face so thanks a bunch for that and well done.
I'm happy to help. It's a great camera. There's nothing quite like it on the market. If it weren't for the buttons I would like it a lot more. I don't mind full auto. It does a good job. I just don't like that some of the helpful features, like Face Detect AF, are only available in auto mode. The camera has its quirks, but it's a good camera. Please send a link to that woodpecker next time you film it. Cheers.
You have done an excellent job here . Very helpfull and accurate info. Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the review. As far as the buttons go, I love them. I use mine to film paintball. Very intense filming environment. With other cameras, I'd accidentally push buttons by mistake. So your biggest annoyance is a blessing for me.
That must be a lot of fun. I can see where the buttons would make a big difference here. Leave a link to your videos. I'd like to see some. Cheers.
Thanks for great review.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
I found both of your videos about this camera very enlightening as well as disheartening. I am looking to upgrade from my Canon xf200 and so I was particularly interested in the things you said. There are indeed some worrying things about the HC X1500 (+ handle). Better to know these things beforehand, so thank you very much for going into so much detail. I am as confused as ever as to what to get. (I shoot chamber music concerts and the like. Low light!) Need the XLR inputs. Like the 20x zoom. Like the 3 rings...
The x1500 series of cameras would not be my first choice for chamber music, especially if you think you might need to use the zoom while in a low light situation. I still don't like the buttons, but the camera is good to great in all other situations. For example, when I do use it in low light situations, I never zoom. The aperture will close down as you zoom, thereby making your image darker. That is a bad combination. I might suggest you consider as large of a sensor as you can get. This may include the need for a camera as opposed to a camcorder. The HCX1/UX180 have a larger sensor, and will do better than the x1500 in low light, but they will also get darker as you zoom. Good luck.
Great video Robert. I bought the x1500. It’s great , low light could be better but love the footage!
Enjoy it. I agree about the low light. PRO tip- get a black mist filter for about $25 bucks. It will really improve the footage, especially in low light. It wont make it brighter, but it will give pinpoint light sources and other highligh areas a subtle "bloom" which will give the video a more stylized look. Also, it will help mask a little of the noise reduction by reducing smear. A mist filter is a kind of contrast and difusion fine detail blur device. Although this may sound like sommething you don't want, it's actually very helpful.
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You can ger the filters in different strengths. I find that i like 1/4 the best at night, but 1/8 during the day. during the day the effect can be to soften skin for beauty style shots. It works great to give highlights a subtle glow and remove blemishes from a persoons skin without loosing detail. Beware of a sun backli8t subject, then the filter will bloom over eberything. its a look some like and others don't. I don't most of the time, so I avoid strong backlit shots with a mist filter in the daytime.
My favorite strength overall is the 1/8 power. I just leave it on almost all of the time, especially at night. I just love how it removes the "digital" look of the video. Remember, however, that it's baked into the video. The times I don't use it is when i know I won't want the "look" in the final video. BRIDES love my videos and one of the reasons is the black mist filter- it's my secret. I call it a beauty filter and show it to them as i use it. They really seem to enjoy it.
Pro tip: brides and subjects always want you to "fix it in photoshop" or press the skinny button. They always want to know the photographer is "doing something". SO, i just pull out the filter and tell them, I got you babe! I am using a special beauty filter just for you. Check this out.. They love it. A little showmanship goes a long way to building rapport and making great client interactions. Did i mention that I love the look? So, check one out and see what you think. I DON't buy the expensive ones.
@@RobertHamm thanks Robert, will definitely give the filter a try!
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Welcome!
Thanks for the video. One thing I experience that I don't think you mentioned is that the settings might look ok on the camera monitor and on an external monitor (Atmos Ninja V for example), but when exporting the files to the Mac/PC, the recordings are confusingly dark on auto. I really have to do a test shoot and export a file to see how it works. And then switch to manual for needed settings.
I have never experienced what you describe. Auto and manual, the recordings look as they are presented on screen and on an external monitor. I have not shot something and though it looked good on the screen to then think it didn't look good when viewed on a computer.
I have some thoughts that could cause the issue. The monitor/viewfinder could require calibration. There are two settings I can think of, contrast and brightness, but there are other settings as well. That could cause you to see a brighter image when filming and then not when looking on the computer.
You may also have auto exposure engaged. It could look ok on the screen but then look dark on a computer if you have the setting set to a negative value.
So if you had the brightness on the screen turned up with the auto exposure turned to a negative, it might cause the problem you are experiencing.
Of course you could have a bad unit.
The way to tell would be to turn on waveforms on your external monitor and your LCD screen and compare them. If they are the same, then it's a processing issue.
thanks Robert, really enjoyed your tutorial, i have a buzzing sound when live streaming, do you have any thoughts around why this is happening, appreciate some ideas on settings if you can thanks.
That doesn't sound like an internal issue. I couldn't tell you where to start. Not enough information. Live streaming how: through the camera or via an external encoder? What microphones are you using? What are your audio settings? Is wind noise reduction on? Stuffike that.
Generally a hum is the result of a bad ground in a connection or a wire, but not always. This is especially true with XLR microphones. The cheaper ones even more so. Many times that issue can be fixed by looking at the connection and re soldiering the connectors.
I'd switch microphones and try again and see if it's the equipment, microphone, cable, camera, or the live stream itself. For example, record internally and see if you have the same issue on the recording.
What budget shotgun mic would you recommend? I bought the x1500 a few months ago... I wanted to test it out at my kid's baseball game before I bought the handle. The quality on auto is very nice for the fast action. I shoot with a monopod from the outfield fence and I'm usually on full zoom to get the batting. I immediately tried to order the handle so I could get a more focused shotgun mic, plus a handle would be nice, the light might actually come in handy on occasion as well. The handle is on backorder EVERYWHERE. I wish I had dropped the extra money up front and just ordered the x2000 to begin with now. I also shoot a lot of hot rods and muscle cars. Drag racing/Car Shows. The zoom is great for showing the finish line. Are there any $100-200 mics you might recommend?
Hi Robert, thanks for the review! Can I ask what mount you use to connect the monitor to the top handle?
I don't remember, but I know it was around 10 bucks. Maybe 15. Just check Amazon. You'll see something similar. Good luck.
Thank you, you saved us from making a mistake!!!!
Happy to help.
Thanks first time user very hard to follow Panasonic instructions yes the button and wheel are very hard to use for eighty year old user especially when video footy games getting used to it though 😊
I bought mine and returned it within 30 days. I agree, it is meant to be used totally in Auto which is really felt when trying to use AF. No face tracking in any mode but Full Auto. That says alot about how panasonic intends this camera to be used. I too thought it might be good for weddings, but only being able to use outdoors or light up the interior like the sun is not the way I like shooting. I always use lights, but I don't like blinding people. I really don't understand why panasonic decided against a 1 inch sensor for this line. Honestly they put a micro 4/3 sensor in the dvx200 many years ago. They even have it in a point and shoot camera. If they did that for this camera, they would've changed the game. For now I have no choice but to stick with mirrorless cameras for weddings. You get great low light performance for a good price. There's certainly compromises, but definitely the lesser of two evils in my opinion. Good review!
Thanks for your thoughts. This camera both excites and angers me at the same time. I don't mind the small sensor, that's how it has such a long zoom. But it's also why indoor events with just slightly low light start to fall apart. You are right, the camera does not do well at wedding receptions unless you put a light on it or use the included light. I don't like doing that either. But... For outdoor weddings on the beach. That lens works a treat. Even outdoor night shots are great with a lot of spill light. I have a video about it's low light performance on a pier at sunset. The images are stunning and have very low noise. It's worth a look if you ever consider the camera again. I don't think I will, especially for the buttons and AF. Panasonic could have at least given us Face AF in manual. Terrible decision. But those buttons... They drove me crazy... All the time. I really like the camera. It's a good camera. I will use it because I decided to keep mine. I won't let it go to waste. I put it on a Crane 3S and a 7 foot monopod and get some amaxing shots with it. But had I returned it like you did, I probably would not buy it again. The camera is a great camera, but the handling and removal of Face AF is a huge letdown. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm I saw your other video prior to my purchase of the camera. It does look good in sunset situations, but you know the rest already. I think if Panasonic raises the buttons, adds a bigger sensor, make the light in the handle bi-color, and add face tracking in manual mode, then they have a winner. I unfortunately never had the opportunity to test the live streaming function. That was another reason, I bought the camera but with the indoor performance being poor, it didn't matter to me. I'll be curious to see if the other manufactures will keep making these camcorders. They put all the new innovations into the mirrorless and cinema lines, but these integrated lens cameras seem to get less attention from them. I rather not shoot with mirrorless cameras, but I have no other choice.
Just a question about Full Auto. I also red that camera is really bad with manual setting but goeas well in full auto... I use a Sony AX53+ Sony AX700 and I usually go in auto with just controlling manual the exposition. May I use also X2000 in full auto but just the control exposition under manual control?
Im using a røde ntg2 shotgun mic. But im not sure if i did the swttings right. It sometimes sounds like im tapping the mic. Is the internal mic on as well when your using the handleand xlr?? Video of a normal setup would have been great.
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It soundsike you may have had one of the internal mics on. That's normal to do, if you want to, but if you didn't, then just set both audio tracks to the NTG input. If you're worried about peaking, you can set one input to a lower input volume. There are many ways to do it.
I have watching your videos for the past 3 days. Thank you…. What camcorder would you recommend for recording children sporting events? My kids play soccer, lacrosse and basketball. The low light in gyms does concern me, but their home gym in dudgeon and the light is horrible. But I will be suing it mostly outside.
The x1500 should do well in the gym and great outdoors. You'll be able to zoom in real close with the 24x zoom. If you are worried about low light, you could consider any 10bit 1" sensor camcorder with at least 15x zoom. That will be the Panasonic CX350 for around $3500, the JVC GY500 model around $3250, or the Canon Xf605 around $4500.
You want 10 bit video if at all possible. This is because the sensors are new, have better more efficient technology, micro lenses on sensor, better chip design and much. In addition to a higher bitrate recording, you will have better low light by comparison to older 8 bit chips. The 10bit will give you the best color and editing ability.
If you won't do much color grading then you won't be saving much over the Panasonic x1500 by buying an 8 bit 1/2.3" model and you will be loosing all the benefit of the newef 10bit chip design. So, unless budget is your only concern, look to 1" 8bit camcorders.
Consider the Panasonic HCx1 or UX180 (whichever is cheaper at the time) they are basically the same camera. I've made videos on the difference. Great cameras. Hard LCD screen to read outdoors. Both will give you a 1" sensor. Even here, I would choose the x1500 over these.
If you have the extra budget, bet the top handle for the x1500. You can sometimes find it for around $200 less than the x2000. There are some pricing differences. But the main point is that you may benefit from the top handl and enjoy the XLR audio and light it provides.
Cheers.
do you shoot in mov or mp4 format? Also - what do you edit in, I ran into needing to convert mov to mp4 for iMovie importing, luckily not a problem for handbrake
Hi. Great question and observation. I shoot in MOV. The H.265 codec needs conversion on some editing software. It definitely needs a player for Windows 10. To view h.265 natively on windows I use Pot Player. This is just a player. I could also use Adobe Bridge, but pot player is better when just looking through clips. None of this matters to me when I open up in Premiere Pro, my editing platform. It will play the Long GOP or HEVC video without issues. Generally, I prefer the HEVC video, but use 4K h.265 Lon GOP to get the 10-bit 4:2:2 color sampling when I don't need 60fps. Otherwise I use the HEVC 10-Bit 4:2:0 when I need 60fps. Cheers.
Thanks for video, I have been trying to decide if my x2000 is faulty due to low light. My old canon xf100 is better in low light. Just been testing them side by side 0db on canon and about 8db on Panasonic both wide open and same Aperture plus no zoom and canon probably still brighter.
I can understand that. You're talking about a 1080p sensor vs a 4k sensor. The photosites are way smaller on the Panasonic even considering the size difference between the sensors. Plus, 1080 will hide noise better in many situations because of the bigger pixels and less information to process. It's interesting, though. Thanks for sharing.
great video thank you. maybe I am wrong but mine came factory setting @50 hertz. My Dell 4K monitor is 60 HZ. To smooth out panning I upped the camcorder to 59.94HZ which helped a lot. I havn't seen this mentioned before. OK I know about ratio shutter v frame rate etc and although having had a panasonic HC-X900m for about 10 year until wear and tear etc cost too much to repair. Went on to a Sony AX53 but that didn't allow much in manual setting adjustment. So now getting to grips with this 1500 and quite a learning curve but getting there at last i hope. So your thoughts on the Hertz settings please.
Hello. The operating standard should have been set based on the region the camera was designed to be shipped to. It doesn't really matter because it is a world camera. It's not locked down to PAL or NTSC regions. If you are making content for CZcams then it won't really matter what region setting you are using, but you will definitely see it on your monitor. I would guess that you are in an NTSC region considering you have what sounds like an NTSC monitor. Anyway, that's only part of the issue. The shutter while panning is an issue that photographers experienced way back when shooting on film and it persists today. Look up film panning speed on Google. You will find tables from film schools that talk about getting a smooth pan. This has a lot to do with frame rate, degrees of movement, and focal length. Those three things will tell you the pan speed to complete the segment without any jitter. Good luck and keep on learning. The X1500 is a fantastic camera.
@@RobertHamm Thank you for the reply even though your on about something entirely different. Nothing to do with PAL or NTSC (lines on a screeen) ,we have PAL in the UK. this is about frequency Hertz ( how many times per second the display is able to draw a new image)
If a monitor is out of sync "Hertz" with the recording device then when panning a slight judder effect will occur. Hope this gives you a bit more information
example with Hertz correction ( did not do a complete smooth pan that was down to me) even when close up
czcams.com/video/cxFQwMT5X-c/video.html
in that link the fence panels don't appear to " judder" but actually come into view across the screen smoothly
example of bad "juddering" from previous camcorder to show what I mean
czcams.com/video/rj8IAw9AYlk/video.html
Hey Robert, thank for the comparison review! I am considering this for a small church that I will also be doing a lighting upgrade for so I think the light quality will be good and these are going to be on tripods with the Libec LANC zoom controller to be used primarily by volunteers (mostly youth) as operators. Would you see any issues in this scenario? It seems like once the camera is set and you are not using it for run-n-gun, the buttons should not be much of an issue. The feeds are going back HDMI to a Roland 8 channel mixer and then sent to a livestream and also recorded on a Ninja. I have the same Feelworld monitors and they are amazing! Thanks again for the info! Is there another camera you would recommend as an option in the same price range?
Very cool. Yes, you would be good to go in this situation. As long as you feel the stage lighting would work out for the smaller sensor. And the reality is, yeah it'll be fine. But that's always something of a consideration with the smaller center camera. The buttons won't be an issue because of the reasons you stated. Also, although I hate the buttons, they do work. They just don't feel good to me. And I kept my unit, so take that for what it's worth. It's a great little camera.
The only consideration would be if your money being spent on the best option. I think you are when compared to other new products in the camcorder product line. If you were to switch to used products from KEH or b&h, for the same money as the x1500 you could find something like the HCX1, or UX180. You could even find, possibly, a DVX 200. These older cameras won't have 10-bit, but that won't matter much. They will have a bigger sensor and at least as much clarity and detail in the image compared to the sensor in the newer HCX 1500 camera.
I bring this up as a point with anyone that's looking to buy a new piece of gear, you make it peace of mind and a warranty, but there are always good options on the used markets. So, I hope this helps as a consideration.
Yes, I have purchased quite a few things on the used market like my Nikon, Z6 mirrorless and some lenses but since I am purchasing this for somebody else, I thought maybe having the new warranty would be preferable for them. I did see the HX 2000 available for just a little more than, the 1500 but I don’t really need SDI in this situation.
The 1500 and 2000 are the exact same camera except for the SDI and the top handle. The HDMI output is 4k 10bit up to 60fps. The SDI is 1080. There's no need to pay more for the 2000 unless you absolutely need SDI. Also, if you want the top handle, you can buy it separately and still save money over the 2000.
Buying the camera new is great for all of the reasons you can imagine, a warranty being one of them. So, as long as you're making an informed decision, then you are good to go. Good luck.
Have you used the direct streaming via RTSP on this camera, any example video of that?
Yes, but only in testing. I much prefer YoloBox because of the titles. If I'm going to live stream, I always need titles.
Nice detailed explanation and I have a question for you. I photograph airshows and airplanes and I am partly switching back to videography. Which camera do you recommend? This X1500/2000 seems good with 60fps and 4K and a large zoom range. I don't want a camera that is too big and it looks like there won't be any new camcorders in the run-up to CES2024. A 1-inch sensor is my preference, because I am very satisfied with full frame photography. Unfortunately, these 1-inch camcorders have the limitation that they have a lower optical zoom. Stabilization is a must for aircraft spotting, preferably 5-axis image stabilization. I have concluded that the Canon XA75 is out of the question because of its maximum 8 bit rate. This Panasonic X1500/2000 is good, but I doubt the AF and stabilization for airshows. A heavy camcorder is actually not an option, especially because everything has to be done by hand. My personal experience is that a monopod or tripod does not work for me during fast work. I used to be very satisfied with the Sony AX53, but yes the bit rate and 30fps in 4K. I saw your video of an airshow, but that is not the quality I am looking for and I therefore very much doubt this Panasonic camera. Maybe the Sony PXW-Z90 is a better option? Which camera do you recommend for airplanes/airshows?
Thanks for your question. I don't film air shows. Some people watch that video and think that's what I do and then slam me for thinking the camera is a good camera. It's silly. I simply put up video of an air show that I filmed as a family outing. I wasn't even trying, and I included all the video- no editing or anything, and all shot in auto on a monopod.
So, imagine what you could get if you were actually trying. I have used this camera extensively in my profession as a wedding photographer and videographer. It works great there, from stabilization, to focus, to white balance.. all of it.
In the right hands for the job, the camcorder will be fine. You have already identified the decision you have to make - trade a smaller sensor for longer zoom or not. That's the question. Cheers.
Hi! I read all the reviews and comments and answers on it and I am impressed by your knowledge, patient and willing to put time in it ! Thanks for that!
I want to buy the 1500 but are reluctend to do because I have the Canaon XF100 (for 11 years now) and somtimes I get the idea that the XF100 is better in importent issues. (esp. light, handling, custom-buttons etc) however the Man. buttons are also very nasting on the XF 100) I am just an enthousiast hobby filmer. [and no weddings :--)] Is the 1500 realy worth to spend that money? Thanks!
Yes, it's worth it especially compared to a much older camcorder. It's smaller, has a longer zoom, more codecs, upgraded tracking and auto modes.. the list goes on. If you have a budget for the x1500, get it if you want a new camcorder. It's well worth it.
@@RobertHamm thanks!
Thanks for your great video and knowledge, I certainly won't purchase one as quickly as what I was going to, I will look at other brands.
I'm glad it helped. I really like the image quality but the buttons are really bad.. Really really bad. If you use it in full auto, or other auto modes, then it won't bother you that much. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm My only quibble in full auto is how to control the AWB, because it's not pleasant to see colours 'change' when say the sun goes in and out behind clouds. I just wish one could set WB manually in Auto Mode, and as you say Robert, I wish Panasonic would allow us to set Face Detect in full Manual mode too (one can on FZ 2000!). The AREA AF mode works but it's too jittery. The problem is there isn't much choice in the market place for this size camcorder which can do ALL that this unit offers i.e....zoom range, streaming, 4:2:2, 50p etc. The nearest would be from Canon but they lack some of the aforementioned features but AF if superior, and the AF on Sony's small palmcorders is also great but the zoom range is not too far compared, and both are more expensive! So once again, no such thing as a perfect camera, although this one could have been...sadly. I paid a third less by buying 'new' used on both of mine and I am happy I did because due to the 'issues' Robert has kindly highlighted, and I have added here, then I don't think the RRP on these units is justified, certainly not in UK and EU, maybe in USA. My overall conclusion would be that if you are willing to learn how to set them up properly then they can be great for the kind of jobs I do which often involve a lot of walking/hiking. Two units on light tripod(s) make my life much easier. What I would say is that for much less money the one inch sensor based FZ2000/2500 is much more useable and it delivers quality stills too. Something to consider, with but only one card slot. Let's see what the GH6 brings on 22/2/22, I hope it has built in ND's, but it probably won't. I do wish manufacturers would deliver all these simple but obvious requirements!
Really great conversation points you added. Also interesting comparisons with the FZ and others. AWB... You know, auto mode on that camera is either like it or leave it. I can think of some situations where it would be nice to set it and let it go. But then I think about the light changing from clouds or something and I have to worry about things like AWB messing the colors up.
I think the AWB on Panasonic is pretty good. But it does get it wrong sometimes. I generally use it if I'm outside. Inside I like to set my white balance.
Panasonic should let us use face detect in manual mode and custom white balance in auto mode. I don't know why they locked those features down. I really dislike the business, but like you pointed out. There isn't anything like it in the price/specifications range. It's a fine camera with some questionable design and software limitations.
Cheers.
@@RobertHamm I'm sure both these issues could be solved in firmware. C'mon Panny...listen up and make a decent camcorder into a fine one! PLEASE!
Where I live, the CX-1 is the same price as the CX2000. Which offers the best image quality?
There is no difference between any of the modes with regard to image quality. They use the exact same software. The difference is in hardware. If you can get the CX10 at the same price as the x2000 then get the CXT because it has additional hardware features that will fetch you a higher price if you ever need to trade it in or sell it.
@@RobertHamm Oops, I meant the PANASONIC HC-X1
That's tough. If you shoot a lot of low light, then the HCX1 is probably the better choice. Handling, noise performance, all of it is solid. If you do a lot of color grading, then the x2000 would be my selection even considering the horrible buttons. It really comes down to Color Grading and Low light. The HCX1 Footage is easier for most computers to work with. Mac's have native HEVC support. Many windows machines, especially entry level laptops may struggle with the HEVC codec of the x2000. Of course you can shoot in other formats, but that High Bitrate 10-bit HEVC codec is the headlining feature of the X2000. You want to use that codec. It's great. Final thing to consider is that you can get some background separation with the HCX1. It is much harder to get bokeh on the x2000. I would probably lean toward the 2000 just a little more because of the codec. Let me know what you decide. Cheers.
i just bought the X1500 mostly to work outside, mostly by day light and for nature and wildlife photography. Incorporate ND filter, zoom range and portability was my criteria. So what could you tell me about my choice ? I did not receive my order yet but I think that I didn't make a mistake ? What do you think honestly ?
It's a great camera with lots of features that will make wildlife videography easy. I don't like the buttons at all, but the overall capability are good. I use it for many events and as part of my paid work. You won't find anything else in with the same features of zoom, design, features, and codex's in the same price range. If you can deal with the buttons, it's a great camera.
Hello Robert, we run a small event production company, what Panasonic camcorder can you recommend for concert event video recording?, also that can be used in a live-streaming session?
Hello, thanks for your question. Panasonic's new HC line of cameras are all integrated Wi-Fi cameras. This means that you can connect through Wi-Fi directly to a live stream destination using RTMPS. The AG series requires an adapter to be purchased separately to stream live wirelessly using the cameras on board encoder.
However, there's an easier way to stream live, and that's with YoloBox Pro. Check out any of my videos about YoloBox for more information. Live on location streaming is easier with YoloBox. I stream weddings, bands, corporate functions, and more with on camera live event switching between multiple cameras with pro audio connections, titles overlays graphics, green screen, remote guests, comments from the social media platforms that you're streaming to showing up on the device, and so much more.
I mean, your wedding company right? You got more than one camera to stream right? I've been there. And I dropped the days of OBS on a laptop in a small station at the back of the wedding venue during the ceremony a long time ago. All thanks to YoloBox.
With regard to camcorder, you will need at least a 1-in sensor. If you already have a 1-in sensor camcorder, then you could consider something smaller, like the x 1500 or 2000. But if this is your first camcorder for your business, don't go any smaller than 1 in. It does matter on how new the technology is. So, currently Panasonic is on a new generation of camcorders in the HC series. However, the new HC series shares the same sensor as the AGCX series from 2020. This is normal for camcorder stuff. We never get the newest gear. Anyway, the reason this is important is because there is an older HC series. HC X1, and UX 180. The UX series being done away with recently. If you had to choose between a cheaper older camera, like the HCX1, or a more expensive newer camera like the HCX20, go for the newer camera all the way. The low light performance between those two generation of chips is almost double. You will see an appreciable difference for your money.
I've been using the HCX-1 and UX180 cameras for several years. I sold them to purchase the AGCX 350, the granddaddy of the brand new camera series (HCX2 HCX20), and it was well worth it.
The smaller sensored x 15000 AGCX 10 all share the same technology as the AG CX-350 (The granddaddy I was talking about) except that the smaller sensor makes it less usable in low light.
Now, I have no problem with that camera and low light. Lots of people comment on my videos telling me that they have problems about that camera in low light. I tell them they just don't have enough use with the camera. And camcorders aren't for everybody. And if you don't know what you're doing, then the smaller sensor size will make a big difference. But if you do know what you're doing, then it's a great little camera. It's tiny! And I enjoy using it.
I'll use it as an a cam anytime up to Twilight, or maybe just before. Once we hit Twilight or darkness and later, then it would be considered a BCAM in my workflow except if I was specifically shooting something that that camera needed to get. In which case I would take additional time and preparation to make sure I could capture everything the way I wanted to. This is all because of the smaller sensor. But the smaller sensor does not keep me from getting excellent shots even after sunset.
As with most things, wisdom is experienced gain through pain. Good luck on your journey.
For outdoor soccer cx10 vs dvx200 or what other do you recommend..? Nothing professional but also don't want anything cheap and I don't know much about cameras... but willing to learn
The DVX200 has a much larger sensor, but it's a lot older.. the CX10 is the broadcast version of the X1500/2000. So, of you don't need NDI and SDI, save yourself some money and get the X1500 and buy the top handle separately. You will end up paying around $1900 instead of $2500 (USD).
The x1500/2000 has a longer zoom, much smaller sensor, better video codec and bitrate, and better screen. It wond be as good in low light. The DVX200 is a lot bigger, has better low light, and a shorter zoom. Between the two, I think the X1500/2000 is better for most people.
you said it can be used as a webcam? what are you connecting with? USB or HDIM with a capture card? I have the x1500
A capture card is how I use it.
I bought the camera because you mentioned that the camera is recognized as a webcam by the PC, is that just by connecting it to USB?
I use an interface.
This camera is for people like myself that are not trying to make their videos look cinematic. It is a camcorder in the traditional sense and very high quality(With light) This is not a low light camera but in a studio or well-lit setting, it performs great. I would not recommend this if you will be in low light like a wedding. The ag cx350 would be a better choice for those situations. But if you control the lighting indoors or shoot in daylight outdoors then this camera is great, especially with the lens wide open. I would avoid zooming indoors. Instead, move to the subject. I never was a fan of zooming except for times when I cannot move closer. when you do have to zoom it is great. I got a great shot of my kid playing lacross from way up in the stands and it looked like I was on the sidelines.
I use mine for everything you can think of. It's a piece of my kit that I pull out when I need it. It's pretty much an all-around kind of tool for me. I use it for low light sunsets and on location when there is a lot of spill light, more for mood work. Check out my video I did with this camera at the pier. It did very well. A wedding reception at night, not so much, however at the wide angle with the on camera light, it does well enough in a pinch. I can get blurry backgrounds when I zoom in on something and am at the minimum focus distance, but it's more work that I would have to put into it on another camera. I like it a lot. I just hate the buttons. I don't know if you made it past that part, but I do praise the camera. I have several Panasonic Camcorders, the UX180, and it's buttons are perfect. Panasonic could have made these better. My !ain use for this camera is documentary, commercials that require the background to be in focus, and live streaming events. For those tasks, this camera does very well. Most notable is the stunning Image quality and zoom. Great camcorder for that. Thank you for your comments. I completely agree with them and feel you low light observations !mostly match my experiences. Cheers!
Any idea when there will be a "X2500/3000" or whatever the next gen is called? Also, do you know if Sony is planning any new camcorders in 2023 or 2024?
Panasonic seems to have a 4 to 5 year update cycle. Generally that was across 3 difference series of camcorders, HC, UX, and AG. It seemsike this 4 year timeline was for the Pro Series and the 5 year being for the consumer line. All of this changed in 2020 and more recently. PANASONIC seems to have combined the HC (consumer) and UX (Prosumer) together. The AG (Broadcast) series seems untouched. This means that the timeline and schedule for updates may change. I expect 3-4 years for the new HCX series and 4-5 years for the AG series. This means that the HCX1500/2000 are in the 3rd year approaching their 4th year. You've probably got at least another year before that line is updated. The AG Series and The Newer HCX20 and HCX2 are brand new, so at least 3 more years before those models are updated, and maybe 4. The AG CX20 and AGCX350 are 3 and 4 years old respectively, and will probably last another year each. That is my speculation.
Sony has to jump up on camcorders, but their production will be focused on super high end broadcast stuff. They have created a new FX line of cinema cameras that they want you to buy. So expect more pairings of camcorder style lenses for their FX line. We may see a camcorder refresh, but I don't expect to see anything with Prosumer features. Sony doesn't seem interested in pursuing the camcorder line.
How does one change the ISO settings on these cams? (I've just purchased a 1500), and how does one find "Variable Frame Rate". I need to shoot some slo mo, not "Super Slow, and at 4K resolution.
You done it in the system settings. However, I would just record in 4K 60 and use it on a 24p timeline and get 2.5x slow motion. If you use some of the higher frame rates built in for slowno, it will downscale the 4k to 1080 at higher than 60fps. It's good, but there are more than one ways to do it.
@@RobertHamm Thank you for this Robert. So no way to record 4K Slo-Mo in camera e.g. by varying the Frame Rate? I can record 1080p Slo Mo via "Super Slo-Mo". Anything else must be "In Post"?
I'm just getting my head round the use of User Buttons which pretty fundamental but poorly explained as a concept.in the Panasonic Instructions/User Gude.
Yes, youu can do that, but the quality drop isn't anything im interested in when compared to shooting in 4k 60p and slowing on a 24p timeline. HOwever, you are correct, you can do it. Most framerates will be 1080p, which looks nice, but just someting I don't use a lot because of what I have mentioned. But I'm open to anything you have to add to the conversation. If you shoot VFR internal and want to share it, I'd like to see it. Cheers.
Where can I learn. How to set up to live stream? Like classes or CZcams?.. I'm in california I'd like a set up with a tall tripod for good soccer view
It's easy to set up using the wifi configuration. Check the manual. It's very straightforward. You can also download the ROC app by Panasonic. That will make entering text easier. Just pair it with the camera.
I am not god to right and so, but i understand what you say. Thank you for this video - it helped me a lot. mvh Kent
You're welcome.
Do you know if the batteries of the old dvx200 work on this one ?
Yes. They will fit.
@@RobertHamm That´s great, thank you.
Wonderful Video Mr Hamm!
New sub here with a possibly dumb newbie question. I bought this Camera when my daughter was born to save some family memories, paired with a small rode shotgun mic that connects via the aux mic port. Video playback on the camera itself has no audio issues, but whenever I transfer these files to my computer via a memory card reader my audio is replaced with a very harsh hiss. Over an entire collection of great first birthday videos, trampoline park memories, and Christmas morning videos :( I'm sure I'm mucking something up, and I cant find any information or anybody else having this problem online. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks for the sub. Glad you like the video. The audio issue you are experiencing on your computer very likely has to do with the codecs installed on your computer and the player you are using to play back the video. This generally is a problem with windows PC's more often than Mac's because of the codecs each come with. Mac uses QuickTime as it's default video player and it is much more robust than what you get with Window's.
Here is how I would go about fixing the issue- download Pot Player. You could use VLC, but I prefer Pot Player by far. It's free and updates often. It can play the .HEVC (h.265) video files without any issue. You can also search the Windows Store App for .HEVC codecs. They cost a couple of bucks from windows directly.
You could also use any professional NLE, like Adobe Premiere pro or Divinci Resolve to view the viles, but that's a pretty robust way to "watch" videos as those programs are video editing platforms.
Just get Pot player and be done with it. Search Google for Pot Player. Cheers.
@@RobertHamm You are an absolute legend! Thank you so much for taking the time to respond and help me out
What could you tell me about the x1500 in wedding and social events at all, using with led lights
I make it work for me. I like the camera and functions. I hate the buttons. It isn't great in low light. If you are filming at sunset outdoors, or on a city street at night, then you will probably be ok because of all the environmental light. You may need to do a little noise busing in post, but lowligh has more to with technique than technology in most cases. Indoor low light like you would find at an evening wedding reception is very dark. The camera will struggle in this situation. Adding light or using the built in light on the handle will help. It's up to you on how to do it. I don't mind a little extra light in those situations. But the light on the handle is one color. It's a daylight balanced light, so around 5600k. That's too blue for indoor low light receptions. So for best results use a separate multicolor led light and set the led to the color temp of the room. That will help a lot. You will still need some noise busing for anything about 14-16Db gain. But it's workable. You can also save some gain by using synchro scan at the same speed as the frame rate. So 24p instead of 50. That will help at the cost of motion blur.
@@RobertHamm thank you very much for your response I would keep in mind using a led multicolor to balanced the environment, now this Panasonic and the canon x40 wiich is better?
I cannot get the simplest answer of them all: if I have to choose between the Panasonic HC-x1500 and the Panasonic HC-x2000, but I cannot find any valuable comparison between the two! Is it worth it, spending 340 dollars more in the x2000 instead of getting the 1500 plus handle?
I'll help you, but you have the answer if you watched the video. I explained the difference between them all. They are all the same camera. The difference is a handle, and broadcast specs. Did you watch that part? Watch it. Now. Go do it. Assuming you did it, I suggest the x1500 and top handle if you want the light and XLR audio inputs. The top handle is a luxury that you don't have to have. I find it useful because I do production work. I use the handle for mounting stuff and the light is helpful. Also, the audio panel is nice because you can set all the audio without having to menu dive.
If you don't think you will need the handle, and want to use the very good internal mics, then skip it. The camera still has a cold show to attach things like lights, audio adapters, and whatever else you can think of.
As for the broadcast specifications, the 2000 has the handle and SDi outputs, the CX10 adds P2 video profiles and NDI through a USB Ethernet adapter. All of those features cost more and are only useful if you do live broadcasts or operate cameras remotely over a network.
That is to say ALL THE MODELS share the exact same sensor, lens, stabalization, and body, and excellent picture quality as well as (relatively) poor low light performance. Please keep in mind that I'm a wedding photographer. When I think about low-light performance I think about it in terms of a dark reception at night. Full frame is the true winner in this instance. Or, a light on the handle!
I hope this information helps you, if you have any other questions please leave them here I don't see them all the time right away but if you do need some direct help just check out my email address it's listed on the video and send me an email. Cheers!
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Im CZcamsr can you tell me about that's cemra, which is best (x2000, 1500,G10,7,8) For best Live Streaming results on Social media any platform or Recording both are special profamance...Thxx & Waiting for your reply....
i hope that panasonic makes a new version of this thing with phase detect af.
Yeah that would be nice and they probably will, but I've got no problems with the AF of any of the camcorders. The AF is great as far as I'm concerned.
@@RobertHamm Useful to know. I would love to get the S5ii but the X2000 makes a lot more sense and I don't have to spend money on lenses or lens adaptors.
Don't forget to consider 1"sensors. If you can get a camcorder in your price range with a 1" sensor, that will help a lot in low light. Check out my most recent video about my 2 year review of the x2000. You'll see some great video from an air show and see a low light test compared against a 1" sensor Panasonic HCX1.
@@RobertHamm I feel like the sort of work I want to do will be indoors with controlled lighting. I would love the HCX1 but I gotta start at the bottom - which at the moment is with the two cameras I already own - two G9s and an ATEM mini and a gimbal. I want a camcorder for the gimbal and a hollyland wireless HDMI. Hoping I can cheat and use HD over wifi with the x2000 but I'm not getting my hopes up that the lag won't be a deal-breaker. I suppose I could stream from the mac mini and use the atem as a webcam and then put a time delay on the atem. Anyway, starting small.
What you said about f stop equivalence is incorrect. The crop factor is only relevant in terms of what depth of field a camera with a crop would achieve. The f stop value is a physical measurement of the iris opening. and it’s not convertible. The light gathering of a lens is not affected by sensor crop factor. This camera is not great in low light due to small light gathering surface area of the sensor.
I completely disagree. Put a m43 f2 on a full frame sensor and see what happens. Then put a full frame f2 lens on a m43 mount and see what happens. If you did that simple thing, keeping lighting, environment, shutter speed, aperture, and ISO the same you would see the difference you say does not exist. You're simply mistaken.
From days of old, bigger sensor+ bigger aperture= more light. Converting down always uses the crop factor for both field of view AND equivalence in gathered light.
Also, I have to just say that this is so stupid to even be talking about. It's a settled debate.
Consider the crop factor of 2x from m43 to FF in this example:
Take your m43 50mm f2. How big is the aperture wide open? Do you know? It's simple- it's 25/2=12.5. ( If you didn't know this before reading the answer, then that's the beginning of your misunderstanding - the simple math.)
Now take the equivalent lens on full frame, a 50mm f2. What's it's iris at the widest aperture? That's simple, too.. it's 50/2=25.
So, which let's in more light? Eh? What I said is correct. The full frame will always let in more light because it's got a wider aperture. Remember, aperture is the term most people swap out for f/stop. Also, without googling.. do you know what an f/stop is? Do you know the math behind it? If you don't know what an f/stop is, check it out later. If you think you know, just check and see if what you think you know is what you know.
This is also why you're wrong.. because the lenses have physically different sizes (different maximum apertures). The smaller lens will always let in less light because it's physically smaller. You can actually see this just by looking at the lenses.
So, in the example above, both lenses we discussed have an f/stop of f/2, but I just showed you that that measurement (the f/2) is simply a ratio of focal length to aperture. That ratio is not the whole truth. We saw that the full frame lens has the larger max aperture, which is why it lets in more light.
I don't believe you know a lot about lenses, specifically lens construction, because if you did, you wouldn't have made the statement you did.
This is such a dumb discussion.. if what you're claiming is true.. then why isn't your cell phone better than your "pro camera"? For instance, next time you go photograph a wedding, or landscapes, just use you iPhone. * very sarcastic: Remember, smaller sensors don't let in less light.. they let in the same light because the aperture and the focal length are the same. *
That was your point, right.. I completely disagree and you are absolutely wrong. If your right, sell all your "real" camera gear and just use your cell phone.
@@RobertHamm it’s funny that when someone corrects you instead of double checking you just jump into a CZcams battle mode and follow up with a lot more miss conceptions. If you can’t even work out how wrong you are just by thinking about it logically you can surely find the right info in 1 minute flat by googling it 😂
The crop equivalence in depth of field is born from one simple fact. To achieve the same framing on a crop camera you need to move away from you subject. This has no effect on the light whatsoever. If anything lenses are brighter in the middle part hence the vignetting in the corners.
I am using full frame lenses on m43, super16, super35 crop cameras actually just as well as crop lenses for super35 and apsc on full frame cameras. It’s not practical or possible to mount a m43 lens on full frame as the flange distance of m43 is shorter then flange distance of any full frame system that I know of. You wouldn’t be able to focus to infinity so it would be pointless exercises.
The difference between different crop lenses is the image circle, not the amount of light. Most crop lenses will not be able to cover a larger sensor fully or will have more vignetting and distortion in the corners. You still get as much light as it per aperture and focal lenght.
Aperture value is calculated by dividing aperture diameter by focal length.
You seem to miss the mark on the focal length as well.
To get a 50mm equivalent field of view on a m43 camera you need 25mm lens (most m43 cameras have 2 times crop factor, not all)
If you put a 25mm full frame lens with aperture of f1.7 on a m43 it will behave just the same as a m43 25mm f1.7. The field of view or amount of light will not change at all.
But the simplest thing to consider is that a sensor size of 1/2.5” like the one in x1500e has a crop factor 6. If you believe that aperture should be multiplied by the crop factor at f1.8 you would get an equivalent of f11 so setting iso to the same value as on a full frame camera you’re saying x1500e will be 5 stops underexposed. Meaning that putting a nd32 on the full frame lens will now give you equal exposure. Seriously ?
I think you problem stems from the fact that you consider x1500e to offer focal lengths of 25-600 when in fact the focal length of the lens is 4.12-98.9mm…
You didn't correct me on anything. Your information is still wrong, and you attempted to slide your argument. I'm leaving your post up for people to read and see that this is a settled debate, you are absolutely incorrect. I stated why in my first reply, and that reply holds true.
If you believe you argument to hold true, then sell your full frame camera and lenses and simply use your cell phone. Remember it's your obviously stupid statement that crop factor can't be applied to the f/stop and gathered light/brightness increase religion to sensor size. Since you believe that ridiculous premise, you won't notice any light difference when shooting with your cellphone camera (with apertures in general around f1.8 or lower on flagship main cameras).
So, do it. Your cell phone is just as good as a full frame 50mm f1.8 in light gathering, right? That's your argument, and you are simply wrong.
Even for someone not fully grasping the issue all you need to do is type a question in google “does crop factor affect exposure” and every single answer you will see is in line with what I said. For example “Does crop factor affect exposure?
Nowhere in old photography books do I see that kind of stuff.” As a photographer progresses in their craft, they can absolutely apply the crop factor to their camera settings in order to achieve a similar look. The take away is that the exposure is the same regardless of sensor size.”
Ah, stupidity. This is what you speak. Where's your video? Prove what you say by posting a comparison using your cellphone verses a full frame camera. Show what you say is true. Post the video, genius. What do you have to worry about? Then, when you prove yourself right, never use a full frame camera again. There would be no need. So, get to it. I'll watch.
my Panasonic HC-X2000 shuts down automatically after 30 min in HDMI out mode. Is there a setting to stop it?
Sounds like you have auto off turned on. Then auto off to off.
I use my X2000 for church events but I have a nagging unclean livestream. For some reason, some information shows up in the top left part of the video and I haven't found the way to eliminate it. I like clean HDMI output and am not getting it.
I know what you are talking about. Go to the n but, video, characters. Set to off. That should do it.
@@RobertHamm Sorry, but I don't get your message. I went thru the menu system and still didn't find the right trigger to get rid of the pesky letters and numbers.
Oh, yeah I see. Go to the menu, Video/LCD/EVF, HDMI Out, HDMI Characters out set to OFF. Thats it. If you still have trouble, then the problem is something else. Also, download the manual and READ it. It's like 200 pages, but I have read through mine a lot. The camera has a lot of features, and all of the informaiton is in the manual. Cheers.
Greetings, I have a query.
when connecting an external screen via HDMI, it gives me the clean signal or with the info as it appears in its video. I appreciate the answer since I want to acquire one of those cameras.
You can select HDMI characters out to on or off on the menu. Then you will or won't see the info on the external display.
@@RobertHamm thank you.
Is it hard to connect to the internet
No, but you have to follow the procedure exactly. There is an app and you can configure the SD card on your computer and then import those settings into the camcorder. I just follow the steps and do it all in the device directly.
@@RobertHamm That about using a hotspot from my Iphone
So, it's the GH5 of camcorders?
No. I wouldn't say that. The CX350 would be more the GH5s of Camcorders.
@@RobertHamm Ah, oki. Yea, that makes sense.
You do need a filter on as it protects the lens, i'm surprised you said that you don't
need a filter?
I have a filter on all my cameras/camcorders.
I only use a filter if I need it to filter light. I never use one for lens protection. I might consider a lens filter for protection if I expect to be in an area where the lens could get hurt from debris, like at the sideline of a monster truck event. But then I would be more worried about myself if it was that close.
I'm the case of the X series cameras discussed in this video. Panasonic provided one of the most rebust lens hoods I have ever seen. That thing is built like a tank and it's jon is to protect the lens as well. It provides a great deal of protection.
Thanks for your comment. Cheers.
Well,I guess we have to thank you for wasting $1600, so we dont have to, because of the horrible button control. Mine is on the way though, and auto is my friend.
Well, if youre going to thank me, make sure you do it for the full ammount. My bundle cost me 2100., so you left out $500 worth of thanks. Enjoy auto. Life is better on auto.
@@RobertHamm then i would have bought the 2000
Yean, but your comment was about buttons.. you know the bodies are exactly the same except for broadcast connections, right? If you didn't I have a whole series on this camera. You have seen the last video. Check out the other videos in the series for more inforamtion.
very good revie but you losse a bit of credit with lights shining in your glasses :)
Such a stupid comment.
Get a life, you idiot, Robert puts a lot of time into these Videos.
Oh grow up and get some whine for that cheese. I started with a Dvx100b and produced a doc film that aired on national PBS. Then I owned a HVX 200a which was light years ahead of the dvx. I have a X1500 now which makes video in another league compared to the hvx. Compared to cameras today, the dvx had significant flaws but competent camera operators found ways around those obstacles. The same holds true with the new 1500/2000. Sure the buttons are small but I had gripes about similar things on both the dvx and hvx.
One of the major factors going for these cameras is their size. For those of us who can’t walk around with big conspicuous camcorders, nothing beats the form factor of the x1500. But that results in compromises. If you hate these two cameras so much, then just delete this video.
Oh grow up yourself.. I'm not talking about what you did. I'm talking about what I've done. You're so good, andt to flex a little. No problemm: post your name, bio, and a link to that dosumentary. Free publicity. So, Hit it up. Your CZcams channel ain't enough hoss.