Mark Menzies: is UK politics full of scandal?

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  • čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
  • This week on The Political Fourcast, another scandal hits the Tories - Mark Menzies MP loses the whip as the Conservative Party investigates claims that he misused campaign funds. He allegedly made a late night call to ask for money to pay off "bad people". He disputes the allegations and senior Tory MPs are telling voters not to rush to judgement. With upcoming local elections and a looming general election, the allegations risk damaging the party in government.
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    But is today’s story just another example in a long line of MPs from all parties flouting the rules?
    Since 2019, there have been at least 10 cases of Conservative MPs that have either been suspended or quit over allegations of misconduct. Similarly, across the same time period, there have been at least four Labour MPs accused of misconduct, along with one from the SNP and one from Plaid Cymru.
    This week, we speak to the SNP’s deputy leader in the Commons Mhairi Black, who’s announced she will stand down at the next election. And former Education Secretary Justine Greening, who had the Tory whip withdrawn after opposing Boris Johnson over Brexit in 2019. They talk to us about mistrust in politics, and why this “jaw dropping” scandal could be a “plague” on politics at large, and confirm what voters think of Westminster’s politicians.
    Produced by Silvia Maresca, Shaheen Sattar, Rob Thomson, Calum Fraser, Nick Jackson.
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Komentáře • 941

  • @ryanwilliams989
    @ryanwilliams989 Před měsícem +345

    I'm not kidding when I say that the market crash and high inflation have me really stressed out and worried about retirement. I've been in the red for a while now and although people say these crisis has it perks, I'm losing my mind but I get it Investing is a long-term game, so focus on the long run.

    • @TheresaAnderson-kf5xw
      @TheresaAnderson-kf5xw Před měsícem +3

      I can’t focus on the long run when I should be retiring in 3years, you see I’ve got good companies in my portfolio and a good amount invested, but my profit has been stalling, does it mean this recession/unstable market doesn’t provide any calculated risk opportunities to make profit?

    • @maryHenokNft
      @maryHenokNft Před měsícem +3

      There are a lot of strategies to make tongue wetting profit especially in a down market, but such sophisticated trades can only be carried out by proper market experts,

    • @hunter-bourke21
      @hunter-bourke21 Před měsícem

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      @maggysterling33254 Před měsícem +2

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    • @maryHenokNft
      @maryHenokNft Před měsícem +2

      Definitely! All of this happened in less than a year after *Gertrude Margaret Quinto* told me what to do. I started with less than $100,000, and now I'm about 17,000 short of having a quarter million dollars.

  • @antistraveling3522
    @antistraveling3522 Před měsícem +60

    Now it makes sense why they were going after Angela Rayner days before

    • @user-vq1fc1zn9m
      @user-vq1fc1zn9m Před měsícem

      No Rayners a scum bag and deserves all she gets complete hipercrite laber sum

  • @fricozoid1
    @fricozoid1 Před měsícem +125

    Is there a stronger sign of guilt than the phrase "Tory MP strongly denies these allegations"?

    • @MrMusicbyMartin
      @MrMusicbyMartin Před měsícem +8

      “Tory MP found breathing” is normally evidence enough of guilt.

    • @IainFrame
      @IainFrame Před měsícem +3

      Just reminds me of that Little Britain character.

    • @justin6378
      @justin6378 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@IainFrameor the politician Sir Geoffrey Norman MP from the fast show! 😂

    • @IainFrame
      @IainFrame Před měsícem

      @@justin6378 Ha - both! 🔥

    • @alanhat5252
      @alanhat5252 Před měsícem +2

      ...and when they finally get around to doing their jobs Dickens & Orwell step in 😢

  • @61barrackroad
    @61barrackroad Před měsícem +106

    Sounds like someone didn't want to pay his dealer. About time MPs were drugs tested I think.

    • @sararichardson737
      @sararichardson737 Před měsícem +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @intervention.07
      @intervention.07 Před měsícem +6

      Waste of a drug test. Just get them paying from their own pocket. The problem at the root of it all is this: those that contribute the least to the upkeep and future needs of our nation have the major influence over the important decisions. Until this fundamental injustice is rectified the pain and poverty will continue

    • @i-am-vonnegut
      @i-am-vonnegut Před měsícem +3

      First up... Gove.

    • @brianbell3836
      @brianbell3836 Před měsícem

      And who would enforce that law? The Lapdog Police?

    • @61barrackroad
      @61barrackroad Před měsícem

      @@brianbell3836 should be mandatory

  • @andrewclimo5709
    @andrewclimo5709 Před měsícem +48

    Why have the Tory party kept this from the police? I thought failing to report a crime is a criminal offence.

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před měsícem +4

      The plod pick and choose which crimes they want to investigate thats why!!!

    • @custossecretus5737
      @custossecretus5737 Před měsícem +6

      Political police commissioners ensure the police are looking the other way.

    • @matthewn1805
      @matthewn1805 Před měsícem +2

      Why was the police investigation into party-gate so gentle to Tories?

    • @stephenreeds3632
      @stephenreeds3632 Před měsícem

      And then that piece of work Holden demands that the police investigate... again...£1500 allegedly not paid by a Labour MP. Backed up by the Mail.

    • @chickenmadness1732
      @chickenmadness1732 Před měsícem +2

      Rules for thee, not for me.

  • @wendyknight9574
    @wendyknight9574 Před měsícem +131

    Known for… 3 months. They’d be monumentally stupid to be having a pop at Angela Rayner. Except they are utterly desperate.

    • @fricozoid1
      @fricozoid1 Před měsícem +24

      I used to think Tories were competent but evil, but its worse, they're incompetent and evil.

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 Před měsícem +15

      Raynor may have been naive - we've yet to see but it is a ridiculous accusation compared with Hunt and his Luxury flats....

    • @ballyhigh11
      @ballyhigh11 Před měsícem

      Twice, very publicly on Sky News and the BBC, Mark Menzies has been asked what his allegations against Angela Ranger are. On both occasions he blustered and obfuscated and ultimately refused to say what they were, falsely claiming he couldn't due to a 'live police investigation'. The real reason is because he knows his allegations are false and he'd be laying himself wide open to a prosecution for slander by Rayner if he was to state them publicly. Something he cannot afford, particularly as he's going to lose his seat in the upcoming general election.

    • @stevehall6299
      @stevehall6299 Před měsícem +7

      ​@@Titus9508 ...and all the other massive tax dodgers.

    • @RyanBrown-nx8dw
      @RyanBrown-nx8dw Před měsícem

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jonathanfell688
    @jonathanfell688 Před měsícem +139

    Private Schoolboys, emotionally stunted, running riot in the dorm. Lord of the Flies stuff they learned very young.

    • @SassySlater
      @SassySlater Před měsícem +25

      Emotionally stunted or lacking in empathy, intelligence and respect for the general public

    • @Coelacanth1
      @Coelacanth1 Před měsícem +14

      Boarding school syndrome

    • @howardrisby9621
      @howardrisby9621 Před měsícem

      ​@@SassySlater..... who elect them (let's not forget).

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 Před měsícem

      Its called rape.​@Coelacanth1

    • @standalby6949
      @standalby6949 Před měsícem

      @@howardrisby9621 all GE’s are rigged

  • @hecter3008
    @hecter3008 Před měsícem +55

    What planet are these people on? Take a look at what MPs have done to this country and dont forget their fantastic pensions.

    • @peterbalchin9077
      @peterbalchin9077 Před měsícem

      I think they are tremendous, our MP's.
      What might be questionable - there is no suggestion this is happening - is taking a 40/60ths pension immediately accessible from day one - then increasing it with as much AVC's as you want to make or 3 parties consulting with you might pay you to make.

    • @hecter3008
      @hecter3008 Před měsícem

      @@peterbalchin9077 really? This country has been destroyed over the last 14 years. Greening supported every cut to public services the bedroom tax trashing the police and the military. Do you really think these creatures are great? Are you in the UK? I assume the answer is no.

    • @theRab1609
      @theRab1609 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@peterbalchin9077love the sarcasm

    • @spex357
      @spex357 Před měsícem

      They are implementing Agenda 2030 on behalf of some Billionaires, and our whole system is onboard including Starmer.

  • @marcblair8713
    @marcblair8713 Před měsícem +189

    Do the majority of Conservatives need to go on the register????

  • @Phaedra808
    @Phaedra808 Před měsícem +146

    The usual reason the “Bad Men” come at 3 in the morning is that Piggy Malone hasn’t paid for his Charley Farley.

    • @turk3287
      @turk3287 Před měsícem +13

      "Bad Men"= rent boys

    • @jsd8981
      @jsd8981 Před měsícem +3

      Exactly !!!

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 Před měsícem +3

      Spot on. (cool tag, by the way)

    • @ballyhigh11
      @ballyhigh11 Před měsícem +8

      @@turk3287 Nah, = unpaid drug dealer. TBF, they could be one and the same.

    • @MrMusicbyMartin
      @MrMusicbyMartin Před měsícem +4

      Showing your age with the Two Ronnies reference!

  • @davesy6969
    @davesy6969 Před měsícem +31

    Integrity, accountability and professionalism.
    The tories knew about this months ago, yet he didn't lose the whip until it became public knowledge.

    • @lyndacrosfill6340
      @lyndacrosfill6340 Před měsícem

      To become a dictator you need corrupt people around you and sunak keeps them close

  • @dub604
    @dub604 Před měsícem +200

    There's only one reason someone would call at that time of night asking for money and it's almost certainly south American in origin. Another Tory MP with a taste for the devil's dandruff, nothing if not predictable.

    • @nickd.6365
      @nickd.6365 Před měsícem +1

      Obviously a crackhead.

    • @obijon7441
      @obijon7441 Před měsícem

      I heard the male prostitute was Brazilian, allegedly. Not sure about the marching powder.

    • @dwdei8815
      @dwdei8815 Před měsícem +29

      Why else be an "unpaid trade advisor" (yes that's what he was) to Colombia (& Peru, Chile, Argentina)?

    • @hughzapretti-boyden9187
      @hughzapretti-boyden9187 Před měsícem +17

      @@dwdei8815 we're talking Bolivia! Probably got a connection from Gideon!😳😂

    • @antsly
      @antsly Před měsícem +10

      No. This is even harder stuff. This is meth psychosis. Meth is almost unheard of in the UK outside of the gay community, but it is destroying gay communities in major cities like London and Manchester.

  • @user-qd2pc5gz4n
    @user-qd2pc5gz4n Před měsícem +72

    He said he fell in with a a bad crowd,THE TORY PARTY 😂😂😂

    • @jsd8981
      @jsd8981 Před měsícem +4

      LoL good shout..

    • @gerrylast
      @gerrylast Před měsícem +3

      Could have been labour party though. They seem not to be squeaky clean either😄. I like to think Blair would have cleaned up a lot while he was in office, he had plenty of time to clean things up but all we seem to seem is a strange suntan that even Trump may be proud of, and many unanswered questions about illegal wars that left many people dead.

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před měsícem

      "Take Me to My Cocaine Dealer" Mark Menzies cos Taxpayers will cough up involuntarily.

    • @stephenreeds3632
      @stephenreeds3632 Před měsícem +1

      Only £5,000? That's not very much for a ransom, surely?

    • @stephenreeds3632
      @stephenreeds3632 Před měsícem +1

      ​@gerrylast But it wasn't so don't fall for the "they're all the same" shtick which the Tories want us to believe.

  • @jamesclark6104
    @jamesclark6104 Před měsícem +14

    I don't think this story is jaw dropping or bizarre, it's what I've come to expect from Tory MPs.

  • @georgep4465
    @georgep4465 Před měsícem +22

    Have you asked the obvious question: who got the £5k?
    Why not?
    Who paid whom?
    And what about a police investigation? None as usual?

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před měsícem +3

      They’re too busy investigating Angela Raynor for err ummm hmmm ahhhh something? Ask Daly he wants her prosecuted! Oh I forgot, he doesn’t know either😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @robertwilson4809
    @robertwilson4809 Před měsícem +52

    Will there be a forensic tent in his garden like Nicola sturgeon? I very much doubt it.

    •  Před měsícem +1

      When nippy is in jail will she be sharing a cell with her pal in the wig a leggings she tried to get put in a female prison?

    • @erictaylor2831
      @erictaylor2831 Před měsícem

      And when was she charged with anything 😮

    • @PLeon-kd1yd
      @PLeon-kd1yd Před měsícem

      @@erictaylor2831tick tock

  • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
    @user-ol6rd7pl5t Před měsícem +37

    Is there anyone left in the UK who hasn't yet woken up to who & what the Tory Party are & what they represent.

    • @markhilbert6573
      @markhilbert6573 Před měsícem +5

      Its not just the torys they are all the same.

    • @user-ol6rd7pl5t
      @user-ol6rd7pl5t Před měsícem +9

      @@markhilbert6573 All those on the right & far right yes definitely.

    • @stevehall6299
      @stevehall6299 Před měsícem +10

      ​@@markhilbert6573 No, *all* politicians are *not* the same.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před měsícem

      They are a public school debating club formed to take our money off us.

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem +6

      I wonder if there is anyone who remembers when the Labour Party didn't despise the working class? Trust me, none of them represent you.

  • @SuzanneO707
    @SuzanneO707 Před měsícem +24

    Parliament is a difficult place for a compassionate, articulate person from a working class background in particular. Interesting discussion. 👍

  • @lobintool
    @lobintool Před měsícem +24

    If this sort of malarkey was going on elsewhere in another country it would be called out as being a "Banana Republic"!

    • @Coelacanth1
      @Coelacanth1 Před měsícem +1

      If we didn't uphold a monarchy we could very well be called a Banana republic

    • @cedriclynch
      @cedriclynch Před měsícem

      ​@@Coelacanth1It is beginning to become possible to grow bananas outdoors in the UK.

  • @craigm6878
    @craigm6878 Před měsícem +46

    Typical of Westminster. Typical of the Tories.

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před měsícem

      all politicians are unsafe to trust they should be whiter than white alas they're NOT.

  • @stevenhodgson4227
    @stevenhodgson4227 Před měsícem +28

    The tory party is one sick puppy . Always has been.

    • @kyecypress
      @kyecypress Před měsícem +3

      Both the major parties are.

    • @custossecretus5737
      @custossecretus5737 Před měsícem

      Politicians do know what goes on in Westminster, just like BBC staff knew about Saville.
      Which means the only way to make it in politics, is to turn a blind eye, because if you speak up you become a target.
      Sick, the swamp needs draining.

    • @richardh8082
      @richardh8082 Před měsícem

      @@dlmdee No

    • @richardh8082
      @richardh8082 Před měsícem

      @@kyecypress labour not as much. Best we can get atm

    • @richardh8082
      @richardh8082 Před měsícem

      Sick puppy? More like Old Yeller!

  • @FlannelPrime
    @FlannelPrime Před měsícem +21

    Brilliant conversation. Channel 4 has been leading the way with investigative journalism and now with longer format reasoned discussion.

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 Před měsícem +133

    The common denominator of all these scandals seems to be private schooling. 😮

    • @stephfoxwell4620
      @stephfoxwell4620 Před měsícem +22

      And Coke

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Před měsícem

      ​@@stephfoxwell4620Anyone can become a "coke addict" (😂) but education in entitlement is only available at a price ordinary people can't pay. 😊

    • @graemeross1998
      @graemeross1998 Před měsícem +19

      They believe they are untouchable that's what privelage does to you

    • @johnnyhock
      @johnnyhock Před měsícem +8

      GREED

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Před měsícem +5

      @@stephfoxwell4620 Rishi has admitted on camera to being a "coke addict" (the drink I think) but "education on entitlement" is only on the curriculum at a price that ordinary people cannot pay (let's see if THIS one passes moderation) 🤔.

  • @davidedwards1227
    @davidedwards1227 Před měsícem +40

    And Tories are on about Angela Rayner, typical Tory Gaslighting,

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem

      Lol you are funny, would you trust her over any of them? I will give you a clue, the political class despise you and discount your vote.

    •  Před měsícem +1

      And you support what’s happening in Gaza. Captain gammon.

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem

      Am I misunderstanding, or do you feel calling someone Gammon is not racist, and said to dismiss them as less?

  • @Lindsey922
    @Lindsey922 Před měsícem +28

    how fast did Sunak move on the Chris Pinscher case ?? he now seems to turn a blind eye to all sorts of hideous goings on! A man of such principle!! Unelected cabinet and overseeing dismal behaviour as they are on the way out of power.

    • @williamevans9426
      @williamevans9426 Před měsícem +2

      Yes, an opinion poll rating of just 19% focuses the mind wonderfully.

    • @TheresaCoughy
      @TheresaCoughy Před měsícem

      That was on johnsons watch. He was RELUCTANTLY sacked.
      Interestingly sunnaks.respnse to this is attack people who's Dr's gave signed them off work.
      Disgusting

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem

      @@williamevans9426 If there is one thing the English could be said to stand for, it is fair play. Sunak doomed the Tories the moment he had his globalist mates do a Hatchet job on Truss (who wasn't smart enough to do the job anyway) you don't get to behave like that and stand a chance of reelection. So we are paying the most tax in 70 years and as usual the public services deteriorate and the next election will see a Labour government and the inevitable tax rises while services deteriorate with a side serving of authoritarian attacks on thought, speech and assembly.

  • @pauljones1376
    @pauljones1376 Před měsícem +65

    Its laughable how they use Rayner as a distraction

    • @archiebald4717
      @archiebald4717 Před měsícem +4

      She has done that herself.

    • @stevehall6299
      @stevehall6299 Před měsícem

      Distractions are all they have left...and *more* scandals to come.

    • @stevehall6299
      @stevehall6299 Před měsícem +3

      Distractions is all they have left...and *more* scandals.

    • @pauljones1376
      @pauljones1376 Před měsícem

      She's done nothing lol... Bozo gave tax payers money to his squeeze £100 k it's a joke how the working class hate Labour and Rayner... Irony a working class girl dies good and the gammon hate her

    • @archiebald4717
      @archiebald4717 Před měsícem +1

      @@stevehall6299 Of course Labour has some form. Keith Vaz, Dawn Butler, Fiona Onasanya, Claudia Webbe, to mention just a few.

  • @sharonramsey715
    @sharonramsey715 Před měsícem +47

    Love Love Mhaire Black, now that will be a loss. She just tells it like it is, no gobbledegook just plain talking.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před měsícem +6

      I agree, she is a fresh voice of honesty and logic in a sea of sewage, but she keeps her integrity and dignity.

    •  Před měsícem

      You love a dangerous misogynist thats politics comes from woke teen Americans?

    • @PLeon-kd1yd
      @PLeon-kd1yd Před měsícem

      @@billpugh58 integrity and snp are u for real

    • @robertfmorton
      @robertfmorton Před měsícem

      Totally agree. Mhaire Black is one of the very few mps with commitment, honesty and integrity.

    • @sharonrobertson4802
      @sharonrobertson4802 Před měsícem +2

      Hope she becomes an msp.

  • @georgegraham472
    @georgegraham472 Před měsícem +90

    oh come on, it's not "public service" that attracts people to politics.

    • @pauljones1376
      @pauljones1376 Před měsícem +13

      The Bullington club ....if you've voted for them you get what you deserve

    • @rook_wood
      @rook_wood Před měsícem

      The Selfservatives know what they're in it for

    • @Spriggan83
      @Spriggan83 Před měsícem +1

      It's the blow!

    • @CaptainFearless1
      @CaptainFearless1 Před měsícem +3

      they rarely ever speak about what's best for the country or indeed the electorate...they are just interested in developing policies that benefit them and their rich mates

    • @darriendastar3941
      @darriendastar3941 Před měsícem +4

      In the Menzies case, it appears that he was more interested in members of the public - especially the Brazilian public - servicing him!

  • @jeffmcadam9071
    @jeffmcadam9071 Před měsícem +12

    I'm starting to think the Tory selection process is based on a casting couch in a young boys school.

  • @lucitonstjames3925
    @lucitonstjames3925 Před měsícem +33

    Trade envoy to Colombia, you couldnt make this stuff up. With Benton in Blackpool & Menzies in neighbouring Fylde its fair to say the top drawer talent the tory party attracts is second to none.

    • @steveholmes11
      @steveholmes11 Před měsícem +2

      That red wall's going well eh?

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem

      @@steveholmes11 Just imagine if labour did anything for Scotland except count on their vote. Perhaps the SNP would have remained a fringe party. Just imagine if labour did anything for the red wall except ignore child rape gangs and count on their vote....

  • @andrewrobinson2565
    @andrewrobinson2565 Před měsícem +139

    Mhairi Black's departure is a MASSIVE LOSS to British democracy 😢.

    • @quwipyui6519
      @quwipyui6519 Před měsícem

      sorry UK are no longer democratic country but dangerous regime exactly the same like Russia China Iran and North Korea and this is facts forever

    • @marymakem8260
      @marymakem8260 Před měsícem +12

      Agree love marie black

    • @CatholicSatan
      @CatholicSatan Před měsícem +16

      Indeed, I remember her stunning maiden speech. Can't remember any other MP's equivalent.

    • @martinn6564
      @martinn6564 Před měsícem +16

      It is an indictment of the whole system. She will be missed.

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly Před měsícem +8

      She Should have joined us Corbyn supporters ✌🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 Před měsícem +8

    Naked in a basement, I thought Tory MPs paid good money for that...but six and half grand, FFFS(to quote a senior Tory)!

  • @bcitral
    @bcitral Před měsícem +95

    Miss Black, a sad loss to politics. All the best in your future life.

  • @beaulieuc8910
    @beaulieuc8910 Před měsícem +9

    if someone did that to me at 3am i would call police and do a welfare check on him.

    • @teresaward8174
      @teresaward8174 Před měsícem

      Can't tell me any party is any better.Tories Labour SNP all the same pockets filled with tax payers cash

  • @jeanwood6392
    @jeanwood6392 Před měsícem +27

    Not a “ Honourable “ one amongst them , all out to get what they can !!

    • @minui8758
      @minui8758 Před měsícem

      There’s more than a thousand of them including the lords. The only way all of them are only out for themselves is if we assume the human race itself is intrinsically selfish

    • @jeanwood6392
      @jeanwood6392 Před měsícem

      Mini , Let us assume then !

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem

      Remind me about Anthony Blair and how he amassed a £350M fortune since leaving politics? Never told a lie, or did a deal. Then there was Kinnock and his entire family jumping on the EEC/EU gravy train to uphold his good socialist values. There was a time the left lied and the right stole (except of course when they did both) now it's a case of trying to work out who will sell you out the slowest....

  • @binkyboobosh1
    @binkyboobosh1 Před měsícem +44

    This rather puts the Rayner non story in perspective. Menzies could do time for this. He exploited vulnerable lady as well as robbing cash....but more serious than that is that the tory party knew about this is January but have only come clean after a newspaper got hold of it...

  • @coppershark1973
    @coppershark1973 Před měsícem +55

    GENERAL ELECTION NOW!!

    • @fionagregory9147
      @fionagregory9147 Před měsícem +2

      What difference would that make?

    • @wiznaemethistime7095
      @wiznaemethistime7095 Před měsícem

      why ? what difference will it make.. the entirety of british politics and westminster is a sewer.. you actually want to vote for these rats ?

    • @Thelma7361
      @Thelma7361 Před měsícem +2

      @@fionagregory9147none

    • @janewright2800
      @janewright2800 Před měsícem +1

      Yes please!!!

    • @standalby6949
      @standalby6949 Před měsícem

      There all rigged

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 Před měsícem +6

    Fairly obviously both The Lords and Commons need root and branch reform.

  • @robhenley8408
    @robhenley8408 Před měsícem +11

    No one seems to question the deterioration of community in Britain. Closure of youth centres , post offices , banks , public toilets , libraries, and many other entities , all contribute to societal breakdown. Many European countries do everything they can to devolve power to small towns and villages , whose interest is in supporting and improving their local facilities.
    Not to mention that in most countries it is family first , and job second. The UK is now like the US .....job first and much of this is derived from pure necessity.

    • @MeiinUK
      @MeiinUK Před měsícem

      It's meant to be singapore now but.... The peope doesn't want it.

  • @markhilbert6573
    @markhilbert6573 Před měsícem +7

    They seem to be genuinely supprised that politics is full of people whos only real interest is to gratify their own greed and perversions. 😂😂😂

  • @tt-ew7rx
    @tt-ew7rx Před měsícem +55

    Suspected misappropriation of party funds in the SNP? Police pounces. Supposed irregularities with Rayner (and previously Starmer)? Police pounces. This time accused misappropriation of party funds? The police looks up the party's name and could not be bothered.

    • @kaizer1903
      @kaizer1903 Před měsícem +7

      Exactly!

    • @kennymorrison7227
      @kennymorrison7227 Před měsícem

      The SNP should all be arrested for corruption and theft absolutely disgusting party that has ruined Scotland.

    • @nesanesa9547
      @nesanesa9547 Před měsícem

      Mandy rice davies.....Christine Keebler. Honey traps for perverted mp.s..who are they going to blame???

    • @simanothername3035
      @simanothername3035 Před měsícem

      So explain the Met..... Could it be political policing? I think the nothing to see here response to Rayner defeats the argument. The police were literally shamed into doing their job. That isn't really the point, though she has form for calling for resignations without any proof of wrongdoing. Should she be held to different standards?

    • @tt-ew7rx
      @tt-ew7rx Před měsícem

      @@simanothername3035 Investigating something that has its statuary limitation already past, i.e. zero possibility of prosecution, is a waste of public funds.

  • @marpop99
    @marpop99 Před měsícem +37

    Totally changed my mind about Mhairi Black. She talks so much sense.

    • @sarkybugger5009
      @sarkybugger5009 Před měsícem +23

      She always has. Maybe you weren't listening.

    • @Ronald-gu3ft
      @Ronald-gu3ft Před měsícem

      She promotes drag queen story hour so shes not even bright.

    • @nevertoolate5325
      @nevertoolate5325 Před měsícem +18

      She always did, every word. Has given some of the best speeches in the commons too.

    • @davebox588
      @davebox588 Před měsícem +16

      Where were you FHS? Probably one of the most honest and straight talking MPs Westminster has seen for a good while. Her speeches have repeatedly nailed Tory hypocrisy over and over.

    • @marpop99
      @marpop99 Před měsícem +1

      @@davebox588 Calm down.

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 Před měsícem +43

    I can work out what the Tories have done but the SNP seem to be endlessly investigated but no one gets charged with a crime !

    • @stevenhunter5799
      @stevenhunter5799 Před měsícem

      Maybe it's like the Angela Rayner thing. The media making a bigger deal of the smaller stuff to divert attention from what the Tories get up to

    • @jonnylumberjack6223
      @jonnylumberjack6223 Před měsícem

      Salmond was charged and found not guilty. Other investigations are ongoing, if there is evidence of criminal behaviour, they will be charged too. If they're not charged, there isn't compelling evidence to take it to court. That's how the legal system works. In fact, Murrell has just been re-arrested. Politicians are all the same, all out for themselves.

    • @geraldineanneboyd9165
      @geraldineanneboyd9165 Před měsícem

      Mr Murrel has just been arrested again. Perhaps Police Scotland are approaching a charge sheet

    • @robertawallace9817
      @robertawallace9817 Před měsícem +2

      Not yet but it's coming.

    • @medorajoe7542
      @medorajoe7542 Před měsícem

      @@robertawallace9817 what you mean is after more than three years of a ridiculous amount of investigations they will produce some absolutely innocuous at the time of the general election in an attempt to discredit the SNP. As it is, the fair minded Scottish electorate is wise to this nonsense by the British establishment. Only this time they’ve overplayed their hand with the ridiculous blue tents.

  • @james6901
    @james6901 Před měsícem +7

    Any one from Eton,,,,in fact any public school barred from standing for MP,,,,,,

  • @soviet700
    @soviet700 Před měsícem +44

    Power does NOT corrupt. The corrupt seek power

    • @johnnyb1829
      @johnnyb1829 Před měsícem +3

      Valid point

    • @niamcd6604
      @niamcd6604 Před měsícem +2

      That's a whole lot of BS.

    • @remotefaith
      @remotefaith Před měsícem +2

      Why not both?

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před měsícem

      I hate it when everybody makes sweeping generalizations 😂

    • @soviet700
      @soviet700 Před měsícem +1

      @@niamcd6604well it’s not exactly a lot. Don’t get so triggered. I don’t even remember who said that. Some philosopher. But seriously. Chill. It’s just a quote. No need to get all bent out of shape about it

  • @kevinkevin-ug9po
    @kevinkevin-ug9po Před měsícem +45

    The UK system is fkd. It needs a complete rethink. Westminster has too much autonomy and needs taken down. Local devolved communities can handle better what Westminster has failed to do. We need a total change. Conventions are needed urgently.

    • @greenandpleasant5523
      @greenandpleasant5523 Před měsícem +2

      Yes, vote Reform Party!

    • @jamesmarsh4957
      @jamesmarsh4957 Před měsícem +6

      to right we do and not Reform , same people under a different name

    • @allmodcons2274
      @allmodcons2274 Před měsícem +4

      Devolution in this country seems to have meant more opportunities for dodgy deals/ backhanders, with little to no oversight.

    • @allmodcons2274
      @allmodcons2274 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@greenandpleasant5523 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheOriginalFishPond
      @TheOriginalFishPond Před měsícem +8

      @@greenandpleasant5523 They're just the conservatives but worse.

  • @indefatigable8193
    @indefatigable8193 Před měsícem +12

    Not the politics, darling. Just the Tories.

    • @SpenceJS87
      @SpenceJS87 Před měsícem

      This is the goal of the Rayner smear attempt, to create voter apathy about 'all sides are the same', when one side is objectively much worse.

    • @annenunney9907
      @annenunney9907 Před měsícem

      The Politics and the Tories

    • @annenunney9907
      @annenunney9907 Před měsícem

      The politics and the Tories

  • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
    @user-sd3ik9rt6d Před měsícem +12

    He was explaining conservative policy to a young Brazilian man when he slipped on a cherry and happened to end up inside him, the £5k was a way of saying thank you, no, sorry, I mean it was a way of saying sorry.

  • @jamiepercival1481
    @jamiepercival1481 Před měsícem +4

    The Tories are in melt down. Watched Question Time last night and cabinet minister David TC Davies, the Welsh secretary, came across as condescending, odious, ignorant and rude. He was unhinged, attacking Bridget Phillipson, Fiona Bruce and putting the audience down. If this is the Tory version of "standards in public life", no wonder they have so much sleaze and scandal to deal with.

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 Před měsícem +15

    He had the Columbian trade job
    _________
    _________
    _________

  • @adambrickley1119
    @adambrickley1119 Před měsícem +7

    Can't believe a tory mp didnt have 5k. Bizzare.

    • @williamevans9426
      @williamevans9426 Před měsícem +1

      We don't know where he was, though. 'Probably didn't carry quite that amount on his person (unless he has VERY expensive tastes). On the other hand...!

  • @Spriggan83
    @Spriggan83 Před měsícem +11

    Cocaine... Cocaine

    • @steveholmes11
      @steveholmes11 Před měsícem

      Seems a common factor in a lot of our delinquent representatives.

  • @andrewmaccallum2367
    @andrewmaccallum2367 Před měsícem +6

    Excellent as always Mhairi 👏👏👏

  • @user-yg3xf8ze4p
    @user-yg3xf8ze4p Před měsícem +58

    Time to get rid of this laughing stock of tory hypocrites no wonder they get ignored around the World.

    • @giddy9052
      @giddy9052 Před měsícem +3

      The red team are just as swampy as the blue.

    • @hastekulvaati9681
      @hastekulvaati9681 Před měsícem +8

      @@giddy9052Objectively false.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 Před měsícem

      @@giddy9052 Can you name a Labour government that turned out scandals every week? I do get that bad apples are in every party, but the Tory barrel is overflowing. Let's be honest.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před měsícem +1

      @@giddy9052Keep supporting the the utterly corrupt Tories, we don’t care😂

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn Před měsícem

      @@giddy9052please give evidence for that monumentally stupid remark!

  • @mintywebb
    @mintywebb Před měsícem +7

    No, the Tories are. They knew about this months ago.

  • @007JHS
    @007JHS Před měsícem +8

    'Quite the marmalade dropper,' Great line to open up discussion on this debacle.

  • @leegosling
    @leegosling Před měsícem +6

    But Angela… now we know why they tried to get that in the media before this came out.

  • @johnwelch5132
    @johnwelch5132 Před měsícem +6

    I have sympathy, but for goodness sake he’s been here before and must have a JCB rather than a shovel to dig such a hole for himself.

  • @sanchezz4387
    @sanchezz4387 Před měsícem +5

    Sleaze and scandal are synonyms for the tories

    • @God_help_us
      @God_help_us Před měsícem

      Keith Vaz…Cyril Smith..the list goes on from all the parties

  • @gloin10
    @gloin10 Před měsícem +8

    A person, or persons, kidnapped a Tory MP, and released him upon payment of Stg6,500?
    Does ANYONE believe that people are willing to risk VERY LONG jail sentences for that trivial sum?
    This is nonsense, on stilts!
    Utterly incredible, aka unbelievable.
    WTAF is going on in the UK?

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn Před měsícem

      The Tory party is going on that’s what. There has not been so much sleaze and corruption in the country for centuries but the past 14 years has done it on stilts.

  • @TheOMT
    @TheOMT Před měsícem +4

    Those across the aisle are your opposition. Your enemies are in the seats behind you.

  • @stanleydobson382
    @stanleydobson382 Před měsícem +6

    Refreshing to see politicians talking without personal political agendas.
    This debate outshines the BBC,s somewhat ' Chimpanzee's tea party Question Time .

    • @stevehall6299
      @stevehall6299 Před měsícem +2

      QT certainly is these days.

    • @cedriclynch
      @cedriclynch Před měsícem

      ​@@stevehall6299I think zoos have been banned from holding chimpanzees' tea parties for about the last 50 years, on the grounds that they undermine the dignity of the chimpanzees.

  • @aliceosborne3866
    @aliceosborne3866 Před měsícem +3

    They keep saying‘Westminster’ when they really mean ‘Conservative Party’ … these are mainly Tory problems NOT all Westminster problems.

  • @WeeShooey
    @WeeShooey Před měsícem +4

    Great chat without BBC or MSM bias. Love it!

  • @gwh3013
    @gwh3013 Před měsícem +4

    All tories should get back in the bin they got out of

  • @johnholkham2420
    @johnholkham2420 Před měsícem +3

    This lady hit the nail on the head , half the MPs went to a few top universities often the same Private Schools.

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday Před měsícem +3

    I’m sorry but they are excusing a little too much the behaviour of this MP. How about you don’t get yourself into a situation where you could be blackmailed in the first place? How about you have some decency and a working moral compass.

  • @JoshAston23
    @JoshAston23 Před měsícem +9

    It's taken until 2024.to ask this question?

  • @terryloftus3207
    @terryloftus3207 Před měsícem +5

    Justine Greening actually helped me,yes a tory helping.I am a pensioner with rheumitoid arthritis,since I was 38yrs old.I had to be assessed every 3 yrs,she changed mine to about 10yrs before I need to be reassessed,because she knew,you dont get better over time,you get worse,so ONE tory caring.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 Před měsícem

      If she was caring she wouldn't have joined the tory party. Likely she wanted to keep her seat by doing things in her constituency

    • @AdamLloyd128
      @AdamLloyd128 Před měsícem

      She left the education secretary post because she refused to enact May's policy of pushing through more grammar schools. The only Tory education secretary I had any respect for

  • @user-hz6lz1dd4j
    @user-hz6lz1dd4j Před měsícem +1

    Everyone should go out and vote for your local 'Workers party' candidate and help George Galloway ruffle some feathers in the house. 🙏🕊️

  • @blackwavenoise
    @blackwavenoise Před měsícem +3

    MPs/parliament has to have a broader acceptance. It's still a rich boys' club full of privilege tossers (or maybe that's mainly the conservatives). It's time for reform, where everyone feels comfortable participating in positive change.

  • @lafamillecarrington
    @lafamillecarrington Před měsícem +2

    It isn't a good look for the Tories if they have to counter all their sleaze with the possibility that Rayner may not have paid the right amount of tax before she was an MP.

  • @hastekulvaati9681
    @hastekulvaati9681 Před měsícem +3

    This scandal pales in comparison to someone potentially not filling out a form correctly in 2015 and maybe avoiding £1500 in CGT.

  • @gerrylast
    @gerrylast Před měsícem +2

    These "bad people" ? I guess his first port of call would have been the "old bill" unless he had no confidence in them right?

  • @southerncomfortuk
    @southerncomfortuk Před měsícem +1

    British politics isn’t full of scandal, it just appears to be populated by scandalous people and it’s easy to conflate the two.

  • @davidroberts6549
    @davidroberts6549 Před měsícem +3

    And the Tufton St fascist enablers will already have booked airtime with Kuennsberg and her fellow bingo callers for this weekend

  • @anthonystanbury5537
    @anthonystanbury5537 Před měsícem +3

    I think he had already snorted the "devil's dandruff " and was off his ties when he called

  • @robertpodbery242
    @robertpodbery242 Před měsícem +1

    We need to get Angela Merkle out of retirement to run the country, These utterly corrupt things vote themselves bigger pay and pensions for failing spectacularly, then still want more,

  • @crazyman8472
    @crazyman8472 Před měsícem +4

    Haven’t they been paying attention? 🤦‍♀️

  • @MRJERRYCURTIN
    @MRJERRYCURTIN Před měsícem +13

    Poor Mark In real danger kidnapped gets nan to cough up 6500 from the biscuit tin and gets him released nothing to see here Guv albeit he has some prevoius

  • @wendyknight9574
    @wendyknight9574 Před měsícem +5

    The ‘Spreadsheet’ = the blackmail sheet.

  • @theantoneric
    @theantoneric Před měsícem +2

    Such a travesty that she’s leaving parliament, someone that ACTUALLY represents the people

  • @myriaddsystems
    @myriaddsystems Před měsícem +2

    Corporate HR departments do not exist for the benefit of employees....

  • @peterdollins3610
    @peterdollins3610 Před měsícem +4

    Rotten to the core.

  • @Ste2023
    @Ste2023 Před měsícem +5

    RENT boyz wanting £££££

  • @XxTheAwokenOnexX
    @XxTheAwokenOnexX Před měsícem +12

    UK politicians, along with the Royals, and along with media will continue to coverup the deaths of orphans in care #RIP ❤️

  • @CKM1109
    @CKM1109 Před měsícem +11

    MPs should get drug tested

  • @mickeythompson9537
    @mickeythompson9537 Před měsícem +6

    Nope. Just the Tory side.

    • @marksavage1108
      @marksavage1108 Před měsícem +1

      cyril smith lord janner

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn Před měsícem

      @@marksavage1108and the reason you can name them proves the point that there have been monumentally fewer wrong doers in all the other political parties combined. Nice try though.

    • @marksavage1108
      @marksavage1108 Před měsícem

      @@Lynnefromlyn we will never know how many perverts there are/ were in westminster after theresa may deleted the file. fewer wrong doers???? labour actively ignored the many many reports about their child rape squad grooming gang perverts. those hundreds of gang rapists bumps labour right up the SLEAZE indicator, and should we stay quiet about labour having the most MPs sent to prison? the tories are scum, labour are worse.

  • @stevedrane2364
    @stevedrane2364 Před měsícem +1

    Well done Channel 4 keep up your great journalism. . The only mainstream channel on British TV investigating the truth . . 👍

  • @robertloader9826
    @robertloader9826 Před měsícem +2

    This, unbelievably, isn’t the worst bit…
    A Tory MP was quizzed by police over allegations he got a dog drunk and had a brawl with a friend.
    Mark Menzies, who represents the Lancashire constituency of Fylde, was accused of locking himself in his friend’s house, drunkenly feeding the dog alcohol and then starting a booze-fuelled brawl when the friend confronted him about it.
    Mr Menzies was interviewed by police but not charged, and strongly denies any wrongdoing.
    The incident took place in August 2015, with the homeowner reportedly calling police from a neighbour’s house after the fight spilled out on to the street.
    The two men, who according to the Daily Mirror been drinking all day, each told police that the other had attacked them.
    Documents seen by the paper show an emergency vet’s bill of nearly £500 for treating the dog for “intoxication” and “poisoning”.
    Mr Menzies claims the police dropped their investigation after he showed them pictures of his friend plying the dog with alcoholic drinks.

  • @CashelOConnolly
    @CashelOConnolly Před měsícem +4

    Ridiculous lies (allegedly)

  • @bobmason1361
    @bobmason1361 Před měsícem +4

    It's a tory thing

  • @sarastarkey2365
    @sarastarkey2365 Před měsícem +6

    Mhairi Black's maiden speech was the best ever....an AMAZING WOMAN

  • @pauls3075
    @pauls3075 Před měsícem +2

    "In 2012 reports confirmed 243 (43%) of Parliamentary MPs out of 650, had criminal records over a wide range of offences and included "prison terms" in some cases." FOI request.
    More recent freedom of information requests have been deliberately delayed and not answered.

  • @darriendastar3941
    @darriendastar3941 Před měsícem +2

    This is the first one of these I've watched. It's really good.

  • @Titus9508
    @Titus9508 Před měsícem +7

    Jesus wept what a mess, problem is (me speaking as a lifelong Socialist) is terrified of the prospect Starmer represents, a typica; One Nation Conservative by ANY definition offering zero political change and the fact he has been radicalised by Zionism being anywhere Britain's policies for the Middle East. Apart from his still appalling record on Gaza, he is the only Labour leader to suspend Jews who disagree with Netenyahu.

    • @bereal6590
      @bereal6590 Před měsícem

      That's bull💩 and clearly you're either a tory or reform votevoter and not a socialist

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 Před měsícem

      Really? When every action has been covered including his justifications for breaking Party rules. in various media He describes himself as 'A Zionist without Qualification', he refused to release his backers during the election and only revealed afterwards he is supported by backers linked directly to Israeli promotional enterprises, not to mention millionaires who made their wealth under Apartheid South Africa. There are dozens of Court cases still in the offing from suspended left leaning Jews. Scuppering the SNP day motion was one of the lowest acts in recent political history - it would be easy to go on.
      Here's a bit of education for your childish accusations. Socialism is a movement, not a product of the Labour Party, sometimes the two align and we have get the post war Labour Government - many times it does not and very feeble brains find that difficult to understand.

    • @scooble
      @scooble Před měsícem

      It must be tosh.
      I mean, Starmers leadership campaign wasn't secretly funded by Zionist millionaire and supporter of west bank settlement development Trevor Chinn was he?
      I mean, Keir Starmer didn't employ an 'ex' mossad propagandist into his communications team did he?
      It's not as if Keir Starmer claimed that Israel is not an apartheid state did he?
      It's not as if Keir Starmer abandoned the decades long Labour pledge to recognise Palestinian statehood did he?
      It's not as if Martin Forde KC claimed that there is a hierarchy of racism in the party or that antisemitism is used as a factional tool by weaponising disciplinary mechanisms did he?

    • @scooble
      @scooble Před měsícem

      It must be tosh.
      I mean, Starmers leadership campaign wasn't secretly funded by Zionist millionaire and supporter of west bank settlement development Trevor Chinn was he?
      I mean, Keir Starmer didn't employ an 'ex' mossad propagandist into his communications team did he?
      It's not as if Keir Starmer claimed that Israel is not an apartheid state did he?
      It's not as if Keir Starmer abandoned the decades long Labour pledge to recognise Palestinian statehood did he?

    • @scooble
      @scooble Před měsícem

      It must be tosh.
      I mean, Stsrmers leadership campaign wasn't secretly funded by Zionist millionaire and supporter of west bank settlement development Trevor Chinn was he?
      I mean, Keir Starmer didn't employ an 'ex' mossad propagandist into his communications team did he?
      It's not as if Keir Starmer claimed that Israel is not an apartheid state did he?
      It's not as if Keir Starmer abandoned the decades long Labour pledge to recognise Palestinian statehood did he?

  • @sonofednawelthorpe8609
    @sonofednawelthorpe8609 Před měsícem +4

    Mari Black - a left wing Lesbian and Justine Greening - a right wing Lesbian. Fight!

  • @williamevans9426
    @williamevans9426 Před měsícem +2

    Dear me, Justine Greening talking sense? Have I shifted into a parallel universe?!

  • @davidarchibald50
    @davidarchibald50 Před měsícem

    Locked in a flat with bad people at 3.00 am. Something you do not want your wife and kids to hear.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

  • @JoannaHammond
    @JoannaHammond Před měsícem +11

    And now the SNP is in deep trouble, emezzlement.

    • @31Blaize
      @31Blaize Před měsícem

      Makes you wonder why the police are not involved with Mark Menzies since that is also alleged embezzlement... 🤔

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Před měsícem

      Yeah we all know! What’s your point?

    • @JoannaHammond
      @JoannaHammond Před měsícem

      @@billpugh58 That parties seem to keep fucking up.

    • @Lynnefromlyn
      @Lynnefromlyn Před měsícem

      @@billpugh58oh dear,would you rather no one mentioned that?