How to Make A Vinyl Plank Stair Nosing
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- This video goes into a great way to make your very own stair tread cover using the actual flooring. No more buying special nosing for stairs, landings or anywhere you have to make a capping. This technique will save you money and give you a great custom floor look with LVP (luxury vinyl plank).
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Awesome, just the solution I was looking for.
Easily the best video Ive found on the subject, everything explained so simple, love the jig 👌
Thank you Chris! Look forward to trying this on my own stairs.
Dude! You just saved me so much money! I was going to have to buy 23 of these things for my split staircase and they're stupidly expensive!
Rock on!
I really like the table saw method for cutting the dados vs the router, so much easier, great video, im doing this. Thanks!
Great idea. I wish I had known this six years ago when I did my family stairs.
Great video!!! Best one I've seen so far on DIY nosing!!
Thanks!!
Excellent - best video I've ever seen - You know I'm doing this to my stairs! Thanks man
Happy to help! Hope it goes well!
Perfect, this is exactly what I was looking for on my flooring project.
Great news!
absolutely amazing! I never thought of this
Happy to inspire!
Dude this is awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Most welcome! Share on!!
Great idea with dado! Thank you for sharing.
I've watched a bunch of clips and yours is on the money. I was going to route but the dado looks so much easier, your jig is the best and from your thumbnail, I'm thinking I like the white riser better than continuing the vinyl. Thanks a lot, pal!
Thank you and honestly vinyl riser can work well too. Done it both ways and it's all in personal preference
Exactly what I would like to do.
Great job my man.👍🏽🤗
Thanks!!
Thank you so much! I just made a vinyl cover for my kitchen pipes. Looks great❤
Sweet!
Chris, this is brilliant. We haven't decided on our material just yet, but will def use this technique if we go with LVP for our stairs.
Thanks, I'm so happy it was helpful for you!
Thank you so much for your experience sharing with us
Moat welcome!
Good job!
I really don't get why companies are not selling these. Literally everyone needs these bended pieces. Cutting those further would be no issue, but preparing them from scratch is really time consuming and somewhat complex.
Great video, thanks for sharing!
There are companies, expensive ones, that make them. This is just a great way to help those of us who don't want to pay hardwood prices for vinyl. 🙂
I did this after watching a ton of videos. Your video is the best. It takes a lot of screwing around to find the correct spot for the dados and the depth. I found 3/8 dado way too wide and was comprising the strength of the piece. I dumbed it down to about 1/4 and it worked great. Great video! Thanks
Happy to hear it!
OMG! Must share that you are truly a genius! You just saved me so much $$$. Those pieces are soooo expensive at the retail store. I just subscribed to your channel to learn from your other projects. Keep up the amazing work!!
Thanks!!
I loved the video, you earned my sub. So useful.
Much appreciated!
Awesome. Thx for upload
Most welcome!
Awesome video, it worked so much better for me, thanks. When would you cut your planks to width, before or after bending?
Thanks so much! You've just saved my ass.. I was using the router but still having issues with splitting but after watching your video and switching to the table saw problems solved. Thx
Amazing to hear! Glad I could help!
Thanks for the insight
No problem!
Looks great! I have to make these but have a few stairs that are open on one or both ends. I'm not sure how to improvise to avoid the after market bull nose pieces.
You can possibly extend the stringer with a decorative detail or maitre the corner and glue an end cap to the sides.
Good stuff ty
Welcome!
Thankyou for the advice. I had a go at this today and took me ages to do one piece only to find the laminate ripped after I heated and tried to bend. I only have basic equipment so will try and find a bench saw to add grooves so it’s easier to bend
Do you have a router? You can try that or just a single blade on a simple table saw with many passes.
I’m going to borrow a router off my dad. I’m determined so fingers crossed it works
Oh quick question, my stairs have a rounded bullnose edge. What would you advise ? Router the whole area of the bullnose to enable bending or make several passes and using the gaps to have a concertina effect so it still maintains some sturdiness but is less prone to stress breaks? Thanks Michelle
@MichelleJones-ef4zp match the jig to whatever nose style you have I'd say and yes more passes.👍
Thanks Chris
One box i split all ten. Just cant get the datos in the correct spot or something. Tried the bigger even tried removing whole in-between the bends lol 😅 just opened second box hoping to get it right this time.
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Great video! Very helpful!! What type of glue would you use to stick this on plywood sub-treads?
Kerdi Fix was my choice, and silicone works well too.
Great Idea, I wonder why manufacturers don't make them.
This style no, but they make ones with small round noses, not always the best look.
Hey Chris! Thanks for sharing - super cool! Question: this is great in a perfect world when everything is straight on both sides of kickboards, however, what happens when you have to deal with angles on the kickboards. Meaning, how do you trim the custom stairnose to fit perfectly on both sides? hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the comment! In regards to the angles, using off cuts and squares allow me to take a perfect measure on angles and scribes. Hope this makes sense, I will have a great video on stair caps coming soon!
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmer Thanks! I assume it would be best to take the measurement with the lvp on the stair first and then make a stairnose out of it? What I am getting at is you can not make a custom lvp stairnose first without measuring both sides of the kickboards. If you just make a custom stairnose you would then have to cut it to fit on both sides and thats where I was curious as to how to flush both sides up after the stairnose is made?
@Scottbarnesmarketing I make my custom nosing for the whole stair, making sure they are longer than the tread and then I cut and measure each to every stair for the perfect fit.
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmerlooking forward to that video.
Chris, did you consider turning the heat gun 90 degrees flat and only heat the groove areas and not the middle? I noticed the front rounded some instead of staying flat.
I did it many ways before filming. Heat gun position doesn't create that much of a variable, it's the material you form it on.
For a bullnose on 1" thick tread, with cork backing(nucore) , would you route/dado out a full 1-1/4" for the radius? I guess the PU glue will fill the slight gap at top edge where cork starts?wouldn't want a void to crack when stepped on.
Honestly, I'd prefer even making the lvp square nosed and fill at least the top quarter radius with glue on the existing pine bullnose.
I would make sure your using the round nose as your jig. And yes, dado the whole area or make many small passes like a kerf cut.
Did you make a video applying to the actual stairs and with adhesive, did you have to put any weight to keep them down as they were drying?
I have a new video on stair caps, and it's essentially the same process, expect you need to add a piece of flooring to cover the remaining depth as your flooring is typically 7 to 9" wide
Just got home with 1200sq ft of flooring and was so discouraged with the nosing option they sold us, this is amazing and so much better. Great video, thanks!!!
This ok to do with SPC?
Thanks! Happy I could help!!
Does it work with SPC?
@@benbouch it should.
Great video sir,
The top nosing that meets the main floor only works if the floor planks go the same direction as the nosing...correct?
Did you really need to ask that?
Haven't done stairs like this before and I didn't know if there was a work around for thiis situation . You're stupid if you don't ask questions and only a pretentious prick would comment like that.
fyi, there's a product called Durastair that's now on the market (Lowes carries it) where the nose (square) is already made. Only challenge may come when you install it over the existing stair nose if it extends out to far, in which case you would have to trim/cut back the existing stair nose. I'm about to install it myself. 😃
Yes you can buy the same from certain flooring companies like Pur Parket. Then the nose has to be cut back, otherwise you project too far.
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmer Guess the question is...what's considered too far?
@@macker0077 when the tread depth goes beyond code or the overhang is too far unsupported 👍
Excellent video. How would this work with bull nosed steps?
It would work, just need the jig to match the bull nose shape and depth.
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmer Thanks Chris
until you try on a coretec... apparently they don't use the same plastic composite everyone else uses....
Hey Chris. What is the thickness of the vinyl plank you’re using?
Great vid.
It's a 3/8" plank, thanks for the like!
My stair case is open to one side. Do you think this method would work if I mitered a 45 and had the tread wrap around over the skirt board? Not sure if this vinyl will seat properly at a 45
Open sided staircases are typically hardwood. I don't think I would do a vinyl cap, but all you can do is try. I might suggest doing the ends as separate pieces.
Thank you! Wish they had better options for stairs
Is this glue down flooring? I’m noticing that on the flooring I am trying to use it almost had like a very thin top layer that gives the plank its wood look. Your boards look as if the wood texture is part of the vinyl? What type of flooring are you using?
This was done with a big box store vinyl plank. You can achieve it with any vinyl. We glue stairs for securing
hey chris, i had carpeting on my steps & researching to install lifeproof home dept. the other videos show cutting off the 1.50 inch overhang, than install mdf for the riser. I would rather not cut off the 1.50 inch overhang & use your method with 1/4 inch birch riser painted + installed. ( I already have the birch) what are your thoughts ??
You can totally save your time cutting them off with my method. Just have to account for the riser thickness.
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmer do u think I can use the 1/4 inch thick riser - or install thicker risers? i already have 1/4 inch birch here? what is the purpose of having a thicker riser? I do not mind buying a thicker board, just trying to understand why & what purpose thicker risers serve? the current system has worked fine for years with carpet. >> I bought my heat gun tonite & did a few scrap test piece bends. thanks again for your help !
@tomrasmussen3990 personally I use 1/4" MDF for painted risers. Thicker would only be needed of the original riser is toast. Thin is fine, it's a decorative cover 👍
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmer ok great thx again !!!
Do you think this method would work with a spc product? just had 13 stair noses arrive wrong dye lot for a job in two days and trying to figure something out.
This is the same as what I used, the product was SPC core. Should go well.
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmerI'm glad to hear it should work with SPC, as I haven't seen much LVP on the market here lately. Will give it a try on some samples!
Thanks for a great video.
Will this method work on hybrid planks or only vinyl?
The surface of the flooring has to be ply able, so it has flex and will stretch with heat.
Copying this set up right now! I have 14 steps to do 😢 making 2 jigs to try to go faster. A question I have. The piece of flooring that is sandwiched in between the 2x6 and plywood is 1 inch down from the top of the 2x6. How about the plywood tho? How high is it from the top of the 2x6? Looks like 1/2 an inch??
It is close to half or 3/4 so you can heat the edge well. The key is your overhang measurement. Good luck! Hope it works out well!
@@HandcraftedbyChrisPalmer nice It works! First few test pieces cracked, played around with the dado sizes and dado midpoints. Stairnoses are now coming out clean! Another issue I'm running into now is getting a nice tight fit on the walls/skirt, as they are not perfect 90s. I beveled my length cuts, and it helped some, but still needs fine tuning. Do you cut to length before or after the nosing bend?
@@mrcake4525 length and fit is cut after bending. 👌
i never seen 2x stair threads usually ¾ round front oak in my neck
This is a typical basement stair, 99% of all stairs are made with 2x lumber. For a 2nd floor you typically see hardwood stairs the size you noted. But if they are carpet, you will 100% see 2x 👍
I tried this but with no success. Wondering what thickness the flooring was that you used?
Did you relief enough material? I've done multiple brands and it works on each. Make sure it's vinyl and test thickness. I used 3/8".
How much material did you leave when you made the dadoes?
It's dependent on the overall plank thickness. Around 25%
My vinyl plank flooring just keeps splitting. Does this mean that I am not heating it up enough before bending it?
Yes, the heat is key and possibly removing more material on the depth.
Did you fix it buddy?
Magnífica idea, unos de los mejores videos que he visto. Elevaran la calidad y profesionalismo de mi trabajo. Muchas gracias!!
De Nada!
What size bit did you use for the dado?
In the video I believe I give that detail, it's likely 3/8 or 1/2"
I was planning on using real wood steps but now I won't have too great idea....:_
What adhesive did you use?
Kerdi Fix, it's amazing! You can also use silicone.
Awesome video, I am doing a whole house that has the split landing, I think I am going to have to lay out the whole floor based of the first nosing otherwise it won't click together. Any ideas? Thanks
I can't believe how many people actually have enough time in the day to go through all the comments and read them and comment on the comments LOL.
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Seams like a lot of time and work. Why don't you just buy the stair noses.
If you look at some nosing, if not almost all of them they are not as good. Plus these will save you the time of having to cut off all the nosings. When you get everything setup you'll be a couple hours to do a whole flight.
And they’re 60 bucks per nosing.
@@John-hb7mb true I pay $100 from one supplier before this
This is ingenious!!!!!
When walking down the stairs in socks you’re not going to have that uncomfortable depth difference!!!
@@stephenhouck7232 I don't have this problem at all and have dogs running up and down the stairs as well so I guess that makes me a genius then right. Lol
Will this work for a SPC flooring? 🫣
This was an spc style. Should be no problem!