Paul Roma - The Jim Powers & Pat Patterson Rumors, Why the Young Stallions Lost Their WWF Push
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Former WWF/WCW star Paul Roma talks openly about what allegedly caused the Young Stallions tag team to lose their push. Roma says that Patterson originally put he and Jim Powers together as a tag team.
As Paul tells it, Jim was allegedly asked to do some kind of sexual favor by World Wrestling Federation agent/booker Pat Patterson. Roma says that Powers went to the office to complain and their push as The Young Stallions would be no more.
Roma details what the atmosphere was like back then and how Pat Patterson was an open secret. Paul also confirms that some wrestlers performed "favors" in exchange for a better spot on the card.
Originally produced by RF Video Inc in October 2013. Licensed for distribution on Title Match Network.
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Paul Roma was really gracious to my friend and me at Maple Leaf Gardens in 1985 or 86. We were about 12 years old and we'd slipped past the usher to the corridor outside the locker rooms during intermission. Mr. Roma chatted with us at the door, was patient with our dopey questions, and offered us an autograph. Neither of us had a pen, but we were just grateful for his time. Kids remember things like that (QED), so thank you, Mr. Roma.
*I texted Paul after reading this. He said...........he has 0 clue, who t f you are*
Gosh, that's strange. You'd think he'd remember a couple random kids from almost 40 years ago. You told him Maple Leaf Gardens, right?
These wrestlers are some of nicest guys you ever could meet. I've been a fan since 5 years old in the mid 60's and met Arnold Skoaland and Blackjack Mulligan at a show in Rawway NJ- Mulligan was enormous. Later Piper, Valentine and Tito Santana in the 80's at Woodbridge Center mall. Got there autographs and they couldn't be nicer. I also met Pedro Morales in the 70's on the street in Iselin NJ. He was soft spoken and a gentleman. He was looking for a Realtor looking to buy a home. These things happen. When it does, it's amazing and these memories will last forever.
@@cobrakainevereverdies6940well I just texted uncle Paul and he says your lying and full of crap.
@@russellcampbell3500 - Tell him KoKo is GOD status :)
I liked Roma with Hercules. Power and Glory.
Paul might be the #1 all time most underused in-ring talent ever
I don't know, Barry Horowitz and George South are right up there as well.
Agreed. If anybody wants proof, in WCW, Paul Roma was teammates with Paul Orndorff. If Roma was not capable, would Orndorff have teamed with him ?
@foreverunsaved6661 Could you even i.agine having a wrestling promotion and having Roma/Orndorf to work with? Amazing they were not on top for a decade
Alex Wright agrees.
Power and Glory should've been a huge team!
Jim Powers slapped my hand running to the ring at a house show in Jacksonville, FL in the late 80s. Now I'm wondering where those hands had been lol.
Must turn you on you still talking about it 👉🤡
Makes you rethink that whole, "I'll never wash this hand again!" thing, eh?
L😂L
@@BudSchnelker back in the day there was a candy labeled ZagNut. 🤣
@@BudSchnelker😂 😅
I've always wondered why Power And Glory never got a run with thectag titles. All these years later I still wonder...
@@Grapevined_BostonCrab AND they had Slick as a manager. One of my all-time favorite tag teams.
It was Herc and Roma. I would putt the straps on the Killer B's before either one of those Jabronis
Both had amazing looks very good wrestler neither was great or even good on the mic. If one of them was great on the mic to go along with there look they could have been big in my opinion
Injuries which is why their match with LoD was a squash. Roma had a major arm injury and Hercules ripped his groin. Sometimes luck just screws you.
one of the best shoots ever.............Paul looks better after all these years than ANY of his fellow workers from that era.......
Yeah, he looks like he could go to war or MMA there. Or back into wrestling, albeit slower id assume. But still
This shoot was 11 years ago.
@@ValiantWrestling I know, I bought it on VHS when RF first put it out.......
@@samiam7342 Which means he's 11 years older and no longer looks like this....
he was on newsnation recently. lost a lot of weight (muscle) and is greying but does look really good for his age
Couldn't stand the young stallions. But Power and Glory and Pretty Wonderful? Two of my favorite tag teams. Patterson and all those other weirdos up there are all fucking disgusting.
You sure he had best drop kick Mr perfect had a stand drop kick jumpin Jim Brunel could touch top of guys head not to mention koko b ware the height he could get all had a great drop kick take your poison
@@jarmaincharleston7405
Terrific run on sentence, child.
@@jarmaincharleston7405the best dropkick is "Jumping" Jim Brunzel. But Roma's dropkick was good.
@@gregorylevi1826 Hardcore Holly had a great dropkick too
Paul Roma is a stand up dude… best dropkick I’ve ever seen
He was fired from WCW for being unprofessional in a match with Alex Right. He apparently took liberties in the ring.
Jim Brunzell had a better dropkick
Bulldogs
@@Mines7171 One of the best Tag Teams ever.
They was Decent, suppose to been Longer
I think Power & Glory should have been tag champs at least once
I think it was in the works had the Rockers kept the tag titles they would have dropped them to power and glory who would drop them to LOD.
No doubt, they had one of the best tag team finishers of all-time.
Yes even if for a short run. He & Hercules had the look both were in shape and could work and neither were great talkers but that's why there's MNGR's
I think the Nasty Boys got the spot that Power & Glory were supposed to get. Just to get them to jump from WCW.
They were pushing for The Young Stallions but Demolition was just too hot at the time.
Paul roma and ken shamrock look alike to me
I always thought Shamrock looked a bit like Roma as well.
Title Match, thank you for uploading clips of Paul Roma's RF Video interview.
He was SUPER honest (maybe too honest on some talent). 😊
You got it Ken. Paul definitely knows how to speak his mind. Much more to come
@@TitleMatchWrestlingupload the full interview
@@TitleMatchWrestling did you guys still do shoot interviews today?
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Bless you Paul you are my #1 of wrestlers that never got the giant push. You are a better man for not sucking Vince or Pat off
I find it interesting that Paul Roma got the push that Jim powers never had 🤔 I'm sure there is alot more to this story we haven't heard yet
I may have more respect for Paul Roma now.
I remember when Powers was delegated to low level jobber and Roma got the push with Hercules. I'm not surprised it has to do with Patterson and that Roma is trying to alternate universe the past.
Nah. Roma's a stand-up guy and won't really comment on what he doesn't have 1st hand knowledge of, but it's not like it wasn't well known, even back then, that Pat Patterson and a few others had a "play to pay" policy with young wrestlers and Roma's not NEAR the first to say to say it.
Roma got the sudden push because he had sex with Patterson. Powers declined and got buried. It couldn't be more obvious.
Paul Roma could have been a movie star
And he will be the first one to tell you that
🤛🏽Paul Roma & Paul Orndorff
That's a pretty wonderful comment 😁😁😁
Paula and Paulina @@rob1979
One of the best tag teams around that time period. Got broken up early.
I always wondered why Jim Powers wasn't pushed more. He had the look, so it didn't make much sense.
A VASTLY underrated talent.
I've heard at least two other interviews where someone said Jim Powers was propositioned by Pat and he declined it and ended up as a jobber. I think maybe Bret Hart said that in one interview.
Nah Bret wouldn’t say that about Patterson
Was Marty Janette
@@necron99.aka-sammyboy92 I think you're right it was Marty. I heard someone else say that too. I can't remember who it was but I remember seeing it on youtube.
Shane Douglas maybe or sid I know I've seen it too
Jim Powers was yummy
6:29 😂
I remember getting a copy of that Paul Roma shoot from Ebay for a fiver about 10 years ago. Funny as hell.
This is the best Paul Roma shoot yet 😂
Paul recalling enjoying all of ur vids.. u were still. My fav horseman didn’t get that angle but still my fav… hope u r doing well
Power and Glory were so money. If anyone today had what they had wrestling might be worth watching.
The Young Stallions team were similar to the Can Am Connection and Tom Zenk left suddently as well.
Zenk left because he found out Vince was paying Martel more than him when they were A tag-team.
@@gregorylevi1826 Martel in an interview about the Can Am connexion and the split said that Zenk couldn't handle the pressure. (i saw the interview a few years ago). He wasn't specific about what the pressure was. At the time I assumed it was the constant travelling.
@HepCatJack it's possible what Martel meant, he just didn't want out right say it, or couldn't say it. When I saw Zenk's interview he said he told Vince he should be making the same amount as Martel. When Vince refused Zenk talked to his lawyer and the attorney told him if he's gonna quit he needs to do it before the toy line comes out. So that's what Zenk did, he left suddenly and was gone.
@@gregorylevi1826 Martel was a former AWA champ and he and Dino Bravo (Canadian Champ) trained Zenk and other new wrestlers in International wrestling in the Quebec territory before Vince bought that territory. Zenk demanding the same as Martel is reminiscent of Warrior demanding the same as Hogan.
@@gregorylevi1826 there is also the fact that Zenk's promos weren't that good. André, Martel, Bravo and the Rougeau Brothers could make better promos in both French and English. Zenk didn't bring as much to the table as Martel.
Paul Roma, very honest about Patterson. Nice to see a former wrestler with the guts to tell the truth.
I loved both the Young Stallions & Power & Glory. Everytime I see a team do that move I would call it just that - The power!! AND THE GLORY!! When FTR started doing it & Nigel called it like that I popped so hard because I'd been doing that for 30 years & it was cool to hear what (at least myself & probably a few other people) were doing for so long actually make it OFFICIAL on TV. Now it's basically canon. You see that move & you know it's the Power & the Glory. They deserve it & old school wrestling deserves to have more moves treated with respect that way. Especially the DDT & the Superkick & the Piledriver. Those are the big 3 that are being absolutely butchered to death. Moonsaults & Frog Splashes are also spammed too much from the flyboys.
I believe everything he said!
I think he had a few pro boxing bouts as well.
Paul Roma worst enemy was himself , think he got how many chances and something always happened. He was even a HORSEMEN and that failed and its always the others fault never his , sometimes a person must go maybe its me
Nope. Wwe Pat Patterson wanted to fk him and WCW Flair was jealous of him because he was in his 30s and flair was pushing 50
je le trouvais cool quand j'étais jeune.
Roma used to do that standing leap to the top turn buckle and do a flying back elbow. Looked great. Power and Glory should've got the tag titles, loved then as a kid
Makes me see alot more clear as to why Jim Powers was mostly a prelim guy..Its a shame because he had the build.looks and possible talent and it all went to waste
Sometimes people don't gel. Paul obviously worked well with Hercules and Orndorff. Jim Powers if paired with a ring veteran probably could've been just as good. They tried him with Brunzell but they were just used as enhancement talent.
😅 this dude he's unfiltered 😂
A lot of those WWF guys back in the day I'm sure did favors for Patterson and others to get the pushes that they did. That's just the way it was and still is in other less high profile workplaces across the country. Some bosses are just like that and abuse their position of authority. As I posted earlier in another thread though, Jim Powers was a guy back in the day who was small by WWF standards so I don't think he was ever going to get more of a bit of a tag team push, regardless. It was obvious that Powers lifted weights but he was only about 5'10" in terms of his height so he wouldn't have looked believable going over guys like Hogan and especially Andre The Giant.
I'll give Paul this, he still looks great.
I actually liked Paul Roma a lot.
I really liked Power and Glory as a team when I was young . I wish they could have been around longer .
Roma looks great. I see so many 80/90’s wrestlers who just appear run down or their age really comes through. Good for him man.
this video was from 2013
@@giuseppecarpanzano6689You see Jake Roberts in 2013?
Roma seemed to be always about his business. Jim seemed to be more laid back. Definitely a clash.
I remember when they started getting a push . Loved the team
Always loved Paul Roma and thought he was so underrated as a wrestler. Had the look, insane skills, 1 of if not the best dropkick in the biz. When Power & Glory came about they were amazing and who better than Slick to nanage those 2. Should have been Champs and had a much longer run than they did.
Power and Glory should have been huge instead they completely jobbed them out I remember their match at WM vs LOD it was a squash match a burial I believe Roma.
The match vs LOD was a squash match because Roma and Hercules both had injuries. Paul talks about this in another video.
I know one thing for sure is that Jim Powers mic skills were much better than Paul Roma, Paul Roma mic skills were weak.
Paul Roma looks like this Saxophone Player I've played with named John Scapula, who played in the Billy Joel Broadway Musical Movin' Out, & currently plays for the Billy Joel endorsed TRIBUTE BAND BIG SHOT, which is basically 90% of the CURRENT BILLY JOEL BAND! They still perform as a TRIBUTE, even though they've had a residency @ MADISON SQUARE GARDEN for the last 10 YEARS, & play once a month! Which anyone cares, their LAST PERFORMANCE (IN THE RECEDINCY) is July 28th! 150th SHOW! ONLY BAND IN HISTORY TO HAVE DONE THAT! And C.B.S. will be broadcasting their April 19th performance LIVE as LIKE A DOCUMENTARY STYLE! I'm Friend's with quite a few of the Members of the Band, especially Rhythm Guitarist/Backing Vocalist Michael Delguidice! He's ALSO the Piano Player, LEAD VOCALIST, & the Man who started LONG ISLAND'S OWN WORLD CLASS TRIBUTE TO THE PIANO MAN BILLY JOEL BIG SHOT! HIS STORY IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, He went from a TRIBUTE BAND, to being hired by Billy Joel Himself in 15 Years time!
CHEERS!🇦🇲
LOL!
@4:30 just threw that out there...
Paul was a good wrestler i remember him when he was in the WWF i know they changed the name but that's what they called themselves at the time
Loved Power and Glory and it stinks that injuries to both Paul and Hercules sank their push at the wrong time.
Arn and Tully top 4 tags ever. Where is Roma in that?
Paul roma
I liked their entrance music. The young stallions
Bad ass dude! He’s a G!
Power and glory
How old is this interview ?
11 years give or take.
Roma gets so much hate but always seems genuine and honest in his version of things. Powe and Glory were awesome too the fact fans cheered them destroying the rockers said it all.
I always liked the big chief Paul Roma.
3/11/1987 ( WWF ) Columbus, Ohio: Ohio Center: The Hart Foundation ( Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart ) defeated Paul Roma & Jim Powers .
I believe the story % 100. Powers was a pretty boy. I can see pat patterson doing all this👋
Roma def a stand up dude
I liked Young Stallions, really liked Power and Glory. Paul was the worst Horesman of all time because he wasnt a student of wrestling. He may even agree.
Just saw powers' interview & I'm with Roma. Yes, Candy-ass!
Yes, ask him 100 questions about Jim Powers.
"jimmy was his candy ass."
More I listen to Roma more I respect him. He gets so much hate justified or not but he seems genuinely a good guy. Way he speaks of Big Herc always in great way too shows he cares for his pal. Power and Glory were so under valued. They destroyed fan faves the rockers and fans cheered!!!! Missed Opportunity should have had a run with the gold even if brief
I'm glad Jim complained about it. In the entertainment business unfortunately, if you don't don't do "certain things " for certain people you don't go as far. Fortunately not everyone has had to do this but a lot do. Just too much to talk about in one comment.
He reminds of Anthony lapaglia
I once saw Paul Roma jump from the concrete floor to the ring apron from a standing position! I don't know how high that is but it didn't seem like a human should be able to do it
I met* Gorilla Monsoon as a kid at an MSG House show he was an A hole but Hillbilly Jim was cool
Yeah, he comes across as a kind of a jerk.
Sounds like from all these shoot interviews Pat Patterson and his cream team were the biggest predators behind the scenes in WWF era.
Koko was not a real. Fighter only an actor Roma would have hurt Koko badly
watched Paul vs Mr. Perfect back in the day at a live event...
That must have been awesome bro . Closest I ever got to Mr perfect was having his ringtone on my phone 🤣🤣
2013 sorry just saw date
Think about Pats initials lol I wonder if that’s a coincidence?
Can you imaging Pat Patterson inviting Haku, The Barbarian, Rick Rude, The Warlord , Earthquake or Legion of Doom to get into his bedroom?😂😂😂
That's a really yellow shirt.
Thank you all for watching
Jim Powers addresses the Pat Patterson proposition here
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Sd jones died of a brain bleeding and was his tag partner for a short time
I've heard similar stuff about Jim Powers from a lot of wrestlers. Looked like a million bucks but not a good or safe worker.
Hello
They started as jobbers but later had success as a tag team.
Gotta ride the hershey highway if you want to be a star
I wouldnt be a Star then.
You know....
They should have put the straps on power and glory 👋🤼♂️
Paul Roma sucks he got a bigger push than he deserved.
Agreed.
Posted an Hour Ago? This is old, What is this re run season?
We release 1000s of brand new events each year & our library of licensed material dates back 30+ years. You'll notice a nice mix every day
Roma just did an interview about this topic on national broadcast media. Nice to compare his current story to what he said in the past here.
Roma was a horseman !
Who cares he was a scuffed horseman
@@KirksCORNER-1983 I agree he was not my favorite horsemen by far ,I agree with your point ☝️👉
@@KirksCORNER-1983 as a wrestler in WWE he was alright but he did not fit in with the horseman even though promoters made him one officially
Roma is way too full of himself for a lifelong jobber
He wasn’t really a jobber.
@@emperorburton yeah he was, he's a jobber and rode the coattails of not only Hercules but the four horsemen AND orndorff as well
@Grapevined_BostonCrab he was all business and I don't blame him. Powers was definitely the problem.
Kinda was a Jobber
KEWLLLLLLLLL
PAUL WAS A COOL GUY BUT HE JUST THREW JIM POWERS UNDER THE BUS BIG TIME. YOU DONT KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE ANYMORE.
Paul Roma being an unapologetic asshole as shown here is why the guy never met any potential people saw in him.
When I met him many Months ago in February he tried to run his mouth at me on dumb stuff now I know why he had issues he has a big mouth and is a hot head
who da heck was doin you know
Roma rules.
Stupidest name for a team
Probably was Pat or Vince's idea.
Paul Roma is nothing more than a steroid up jobber.
Interviewer quits on tough questions like a chkn every time.
Roma sucks
Cant' remember the name of the most popular tag team in the WWF at the time, but remembers every second with Powers. LOL Roma is so full of it. Jobbed his whole career and is speaking as if he was a top talent. Laughable.
He's not speaking as if he's a top guy, nor does he care about the term jobber. Everyone in wrestling does the job at some point. Roma had his head screwed on and wasn't a junkie or an alchy like a lot of the talent from that time. Remember, the difference between a "jobber" and a "star" is a push.
He made the 4 Horsemen what they were. Did'nt need Flair, Tully, Arn or Ole lol
To be fair he had a good run with Hercules and Paul Orndorff. Miscast as a Horsemen for sure but Paul did alright for himself.
He said they were getting a push. What kind of push are you getting when you mid-card WM7 only to lose, as a team, in under a minute. I don't even think they had merch.@@cropsykreuger
lol@@thenatureboy1837 🤣
I can't stand working with people who are unpunctual and unreliable like he described.