For anyone thinking about going to customs, I cannot emphasize enough to listen to the universal demo version of the IEM you want first. Many times reading or watching reviews, you think you know what you want to hear, but often that can change. I have made that mistake and purchased two customs without hearing the IEM first and regretted one of them for sure. Expensive mistake. Also customs sound different than universal version so listen to the universal demo of the custom if the company has it, not the universal counter part. For example, the 64 audio A12T sounds different than U12T. Listen to the A12T universal demo, not the U12T if you can
Some advice for people who are worried about custom... I’m going with the Legacy 3s in custom first, only 170 bucks and I can know for sure the stl/molds will work without risking such a huge investment. Especially since if you have to ship the mkII back good luck! 💀 then if they are great fitting I’m getting the mkII MEST.
Have you ever tried making your own ciem's? You use the two-ingredient silicone type, mould your own earplug kits. Put cling film(cellophane) over the nozzle and embed the iem in the earplug mix, in your ear. When it's set remove the iem gently and bore the hole for the nozzle to transmit sound into your ear. Then replace the iem in the mould and when you're happy with it secure it in place inside the mould with a spot of super glue. It's alot cheaper and if you like it then you'll be able to have a clearer idea on whether the ciem might be for you.
Watched this with my custom MKIIs in and I love these suckers. Had ordered the MKI and these were announced before my molds got to musictech. Andrew was kind enough to switch up my order. Also can confirm that UM will send you an STL file of your molds.
Great info. I’ve had plenty of custom IEM’s as a professional musician, the MKII will be my first set of customs tailored for “audiophile” and enjoyment listen. I do plan on using them on stage, though. Cheers.
After listening to the universal fit, I knew I had to get the CIEM version. Been listening to them for a little over a week, and summarily all I can say is that they are IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE in all aspects. This is the first IEM I've ever listened to that puts you dead-center IN the music. Bass and vocals are perfect, timbre is excellent, imaging and sound staging capabilities are sublime! The holographic presentation of this set is truly immersive and has completely transformed the music listening experience for me. Definitely an endgame IEM, and my new daily driver. Now to find an over-ear headphone that performs just as well. Any suggestions?
How big was the difference between the Universal and Custom version? I’ve been thinking about reshelling but am hesitant. Some people praise the custom version but other have mixed reviews. Wha do you think?
Thanks for some solid information! Really appreciate it as I never really thought about the “test drive” concept until this video. I also have been curious about the CIEM process, well, CURIOSITY SOLVED BRUH! Another quality and supremely useful video drop - Thanks man 👍
I had the original Mest, and I loved it. Plays my library like a champ! It is the second iem that makes my heart pump (The first one was the akg n5005), Then I decided to send the STL file to musicteck for the custom version. Then the mark II comes out......... ah Shxt. If mark II is not hugely different than the original, I probably skip mark II. Man, that is a lot of money to burn if you think about it.
Asides from isolation, is there any audio difference between the universal and custom? Ive had the universal for almost 2 years now. I just checked to see if getting them custom re-shelled in possible, and it is. But, outside of being for my ears only and sound isolation, is there any other benefit? I cant find anywhere on the net who has given a before and after review, or universal vs custom review.
I still haven’t got a custom set yet,,for me I have to go custom why…You essentially listen to everything that I do at around the same volume level,,Plus I don’t even know how to sell my stuff I don’t even know anybody…I do realize there’s the web who would buy for me anyway and how do I do that,,so to make my life easier and spend less money i’ll just go custom…
From a headphone guy...I would like to hear your opinion, with your music and from a pure "only listening at home perspective" with no regards to price or practicality..just pure music pleasure...how is the experience with something like these Custom MKII (or even Universal) compared to something like HiFiMan Arya?
Thanks for that! Though one of my biggest hurdles is buyers remorse. How long will it be when the Mest MkIII comes out? I'm looking for just 1 end game set- so I want to get it right and stick with it for at least 10 odd years. Every year though a new driver type pops up, we have planar, dynamic, balanced armature, electrostatic and now bone conduction. What's your advice on this? The IER Z1R is missing those 'modern' drivers, the MkII was soon after the MkI and it is between this, the ier, the Odin and JH Jolene
I'd focus on sound quality and not driver count. I would take Z1R over ODIN Easily. I asked EE about customs for a Legend X. I was and am not interested in an odin. My music shows it to be shouty. Overpriced and overrated . I think the MKI customs are fine as are the JP version. The 1st reason to push the MKII is it actually fit which the MKI uni intl ver did not
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews Fair- thanks for taking the time to give a genuine answer! Wasn't expecting it, but was a pleasant surprise. In that case I'll go for the Mest mkII- as I've had issues with fit in the past. Would you have any recommendations for a media player/dac that goes well with this set?
It's large because the CIEMs will cover your whole ear. Your ears are then sealed & in this case the larger contact surface may does its job better (bone conduct)?
@@tonyleungnl I know UM used an exploded view of a CIEMin original MEST ads. More contact was said to be ideal and my experience with JP version over Intl made me go all the way to custom.
This is amazing ... thank you for the video bro...One doubt: can we ask the audiologist to make a stl file of the mould and send it instead of the physical one do all the companies accept that ..is it a universal format ...or only companies do that
Some companies prefer physical molds though atleast up until last year. Empire Ears wanted a physical mold when i asked if STL files were enough. That may have changed. Getting the Dr to do that should not be a problem if they are equiped
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews If my Susvara is confirmed. I will then had spent over USD 8200 by just watching your video's. You may have a "small" channel, but your influence is huge!!! Of course I did watched many other channels, but you are the one I and many others can TRUST. (Before I had wasted so much money from the hype "ads" from the channel with the Z, He keeps telling you to buy everything he shows). Thanks man. This is real audio. Every penny well spent!
I would highly recommend waiting until you can hear the universal demo of the custom you are getting. Another rec would be Empire Ears, but there are quite a bit of custom IEM brands so it's best to find what sound you like first
For anyone thinking about going to customs, I cannot emphasize enough to listen to the universal demo version of the IEM you want first. Many times reading or watching reviews, you think you know what you want to hear, but often that can change. I have made that mistake and purchased two customs without hearing the IEM first and regretted one of them for sure. Expensive mistake. Also customs sound different than universal version so listen to the universal demo of the custom if the company has it, not the universal counter part. For example, the 64 audio A12T sounds different than U12T. Listen to the A12T universal demo, not the U12T if you can
Some advice for people who are worried about custom... I’m going with the Legacy 3s in custom first, only 170 bucks and I can know for sure the stl/molds will work without risking such a huge investment. Especially since if you have to ship the mkII back good luck! 💀 then if they are great fitting I’m getting the mkII MEST.
Have you ever tried making your own ciem's?
You use the two-ingredient silicone type, mould your own earplug kits. Put cling film(cellophane) over the nozzle and embed the iem in the earplug mix, in your ear. When it's set remove the iem gently and bore the hole for the nozzle to transmit sound into your ear. Then replace the iem in the mould and when you're happy with it secure it in place inside the mould with a spot of super glue.
It's alot cheaper and if you like it then you'll be able to have a clearer idea on whether the ciem might be for you.
Watched this with my custom MKIIs in and I love these suckers. Had ordered the MKI and these were announced before my molds got to musictech. Andrew was kind enough to switch up my order. Also can confirm that UM will send you an STL file of your molds.
Glad Andrew hooked you up. Musicteck is pretty solid. Watching this vid with MKII CIEM.....epic
Wearing the custom mk2 watching this. Favorite all rounder
BOOM
Great info. I’ve had plenty of custom IEM’s as a professional musician, the MKII will be my first set of customs tailored for “audiophile” and enjoyment listen. I do plan on using them on stage, though. Cheers.
Did you get em..?! 🤖🤖🤖🤖
@@samlee2562 Yes. In short. The best IEM I've ever owned.
First! Big fan. Very solid advice. Now the savings begin.
Confirmed Thanks for the trust
After listening to the universal fit, I knew I had to get the CIEM version. Been listening to them for a little over a week, and summarily all I can say is that they are IN-FUCKING-CREDIBLE in all aspects. This is the first IEM I've ever listened to that puts you dead-center IN the music. Bass and vocals are perfect, timbre is excellent, imaging and sound staging capabilities are sublime! The holographic presentation of this set is truly immersive and has completely transformed the music listening experience for me. Definitely an endgame IEM, and my new daily driver.
Now to find an over-ear headphone that performs just as well. Any suggestions?
How big was the difference between the Universal and Custom version? I’ve been thinking about reshelling but am hesitant. Some people praise the custom version but other have mixed reviews. Wha do you think?
@@dbean5174 looking for answers to this too
multiverse does same thing, but in 'hifi' way, its better overall, with nice 50% more cash
Thanks for some solid information! Really appreciate it as I never really thought about the “test drive” concept until this video. I also have been curious about the CIEM process, well, CURIOSITY SOLVED BRUH! Another quality and supremely useful video drop - Thanks man 👍
Thank you bro!
The way I’m doing is going with Voyager 3 in custom first, 150 bucks. Then I’m going with the mkII that way I know the molds will work for sure.
I’m not going to sell my MEST MKii and go custom bc I like showing others what the headphone sounds like 👍
Makes owning a set like this fun if you like to share and show off
Oh that's a good point. Sharing is tearing.......another wallet to bits j/k. That's a good point
Really good details about custom iems. Thanks
No prob. Thanks
Awesome video! So much great advice!!! Hope I can sell my universal Mest! Time to go custom!
How much would you sell it for?
Grab those customs
@@ivanflores6521 900?
Mk 1 or mk2?
@@ivanflores6521 mk1
I had the original Mest, and I loved it. Plays my library like a champ! It is the second iem that makes my heart pump (The first one was the akg n5005), Then I decided to send the STL file to musicteck for the custom version. Then the mark II comes out......... ah Shxt. If mark II is not hugely different than the original, I probably skip mark II. Man, that is a lot of money to burn if you think about it.
Enjoy your customs. Some still prefer the originals.
It is bro, the money we spend on these iems is mind blowing. 💀
VERY insightful, valuable info... thanks! 👍
Asides from isolation, is there any audio difference between the universal and custom? Ive had the universal for almost 2 years now. I just checked to see if getting them custom re-shelled in possible, and it is. But, outside of being for my ears only and sound isolation, is there any other benefit? I cant find anywhere on the net who has given a before and after review, or universal vs custom review.
I still haven’t got a custom set yet,,for me I have to go custom why…You essentially listen to everything that I do at around the same volume level,,Plus I don’t even know how to sell my stuff I don’t even know anybody…I do realize there’s the web who would buy for me anyway and how do I do that,,so to make my life easier and spend less money i’ll just go custom…
If you find a set you love...DO IT. I waited till it felt like the right move and am glad I did
Great review! Top notch man. So how is the difference in sound quality compared to the universal?
From a headphone guy...I would like to hear your opinion, with your music and from a pure "only listening at home perspective" with no regards to price or practicality..just pure music pleasure...how is the experience with something like these Custom MKII (or even Universal) compared to something like HiFiMan Arya?
Thanks for that! Though one of my biggest hurdles is buyers remorse. How long will it be when the Mest MkIII comes out? I'm looking for just 1 end game set- so I want to get it right and stick with it for at least 10 odd years. Every year though a new driver type pops up, we have planar, dynamic, balanced armature, electrostatic and now bone conduction. What's your advice on this? The IER Z1R is missing those 'modern' drivers, the MkII was soon after the MkI and it is between this, the ier, the Odin and JH Jolene
I'd focus on sound quality and not driver count. I would take Z1R over ODIN Easily. I asked EE about customs for a Legend X. I was and am not interested in an odin. My music shows it to be shouty. Overpriced and overrated . I think the MKI customs are fine as are the JP version. The 1st reason to push the MKII is it actually fit which the MKI uni intl ver did not
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews Fair- thanks for taking the time to give a genuine answer! Wasn't expecting it, but was a pleasant surprise.
In that case I'll go for the Mest mkII- as I've had issues with fit in the past. Would you have any recommendations for a media player/dac that goes well with this set?
That Custom is HUGE. Same Sound as UNIV.?? Logic says it should be Different. Thanks.
Mids sound more energetic but I have not measured. I need clay
It's large because the CIEMs will cover your whole ear. Your ears are then sealed & in this case the larger contact surface may does its job better (bone conduct)?
@@tonyleungnl I know UM used an exploded view of a CIEMin original MEST ads. More contact was said to be ideal and my experience with JP version over Intl made me go all the way to custom.
Trying to decide between getting a pair of Sony IER Z1R or a custom Mest MK 2. Price is about the same between the two. Any suggestions?
If you feel you have been blessed by the ear gods, then take a chance at the z1r…
I switch my cable to ea leonidas ii....make my ciem mest mk2 shine much much more
This is amazing ... thank you for the video bro...One doubt: can we ask the audiologist to make a stl file of the mould and send it instead of the physical one do all the companies accept that ..is it a universal format ...or only companies do that
Some companies prefer physical molds though atleast up until last year. Empire Ears wanted a physical mold when i asked if STL files were enough. That may have changed. Getting the Dr to do that should not be a problem if they are equiped
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews also is any special packaging necessary?
Unique melody mest vs mest mark 2?
MKII more sub bass..more life like replay for my ears
Fucking great info and candid video. Love it
Thanks.
Too late, I ordered one already :P
In the case of this set...pretty sure you will be a happy man
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews guaranteed. 😂
@@BadGuyGoodAudioReviews If my Susvara is confirmed. I will then had spent over USD 8200 by just watching your video's. You may have a "small" channel, but your influence is huge!!! Of course I did watched many other channels, but you are the one I and many others can TRUST. (Before I had wasted so much money from the hype "ads" from the channel with the Z, He keeps telling you to buy everything he shows). Thanks man. This is real audio. Every penny well spent!
@@johnhayes8476 Yeah, stayin away from the big G word. Saw that today and it made me feel sick
@@tonyleungnl I appreciate the trust. If the MEST and Susvara were because of me....you made damn fine choices
Getting my otoscan tomorrow, deciding between this, 64 audio, UE and JH Audio. Any other recs besides this?
I would highly recommend waiting until you can hear the universal demo of the custom you are getting. Another rec would be Empire Ears, but there are quite a bit of custom IEM brands so it's best to find what sound you like first
Like I mentioned in vid. Best to test drive the set in question in universal style first. MEST MKII is my rec to test drive
I'm looking to buy any mk1 or mk2 universal. I'd love to have your set Hawaiibadboy if you're planning on selling
MK1 went to my Patreons.
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I want to get custom too for the sake of SQ but dont u think the Universal one is safer to buy? u kno coz u can sell it again 😂
Did you watch the vid to the end?
Customs are hard in 10 years because ears change shape in 10 years . The older we get the more loose the ear canal gets. Fact