Steerage and Third Class on Ocean Liners

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  • čas přidán 20. 11. 2019
  • Pretend for a moment that it is 1880 and you need to cross the Atlantic as an immigrant or to visit your family. Do you know what to expect when you board the ship as a steerage passenger and are you prepared for the hardships you will face? How would things be different if you could postpone your journey 30 years to a time after conditions in steerage and third class have improved?
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Komentáře • 545

  • @haydengnichols1275
    @haydengnichols1275 Před 3 lety +124

    Excellent calibre of information. Very engaging choices regarding the imagery and photographs concerned with each subject. You simply don't have a bad video. Educative AND Entertaining - Well done my guy

    • @jimmyboy2242
      @jimmyboy2242 Před 3 lety +1

      Yes

    • @SofaKingShit
      @SofaKingShit Před 3 lety +1

      He's one of the few historians l know of who are able to get their concepts across entertainingly clearly and simply, and one of the even fewer l know who are able to put themselves in the shoes of folks who died hundreds of years ago in different social classes and even cultures. The study of history needs more empaths like this.

    • @allentoyokawa9068
      @allentoyokawa9068 Před 2 lety +1

      caliber ***

    • @shaynewheeler9249
      @shaynewheeler9249 Před rokem

      Titanic engine cylinder engineering room

  • @Hannodb1961
    @Hannodb1961 Před 4 lety +842

    Today, Steerage has made a comeback on airliners.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +196

      I was going to make a joke about that at the end of the video, but decided against. You're not wrong, though. That's the price of cheap air travel, I suppose.

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 Před 4 lety +122

      @@TheGreatBigMove that's *exactly* the price of cheap air travel. People who whine about the good old days of air travel don't realize how *expensive* it was, and wouldn't dream of wearing a suit or dress.

    • @RonJohn63
      @RonJohn63 Před 4 lety +32

      @Luis Bolanos go back further, before the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act.

    • @magnemoe1
      @magnemoe1 Před 4 lety +27

      @@RonJohn63 This, you can always fly business class. Interesting in that business class has become much better the last generation with seats you can lay entirely flat being standard something who was once first class and first class.

    • @sebby324
      @sebby324 Před 4 lety +4

      Economy is the new name

  • @douglasmacgregor3878
    @douglasmacgregor3878 Před 3 lety +63

    I came to America on a ship with my parents in 1955. I was 6 and my memory of the voyage is positive.

    • @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
      @Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent Před 3 lety +5

      Think one of my ancestors had snuck aboard one of the larger liners in the early 1900s on my moms side. But we don't know which ship only that it was a 4 stacked ship. I originally though maybe the Olympic when I was younger but now I'm thinking it could have been any number of ships including the german and french lines.

    • @maritime_history1912
      @maritime_history1912 Před 3 lety +2

      Wow long time ago!

    • @MrGw1982
      @MrGw1982 Před 3 lety

      What age ar you now
      And what class

    • @monsieurcommissaire1628
      @monsieurcommissaire1628 Před 2 lety +1

      That's a rare and very cool thing to have experienced these days. By that time, the godawful steerage of the 19th and early 20th centuries was a distant memory.

    • @maxstr
      @maxstr Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrGw1982 by the 1950's, classes were pretty much done away with. Most likely it was just first class, and then everyone else, like with airplanes

  • @rodrigonogueiramota4433
    @rodrigonogueiramota4433 Před 4 lety +336

    3rd class during the 19th century: putting a lot of people inside a very small space
    Ryanair: putting a lot of people inside a very small space and make them pay to bring their bags

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +52

      I was tempted to, at the end of the video, put a picture of economy on a modern airliner and caption it something like "3rd class in the 21st century." I decided against it..

    • @fordlandau
      @fordlandau Před 3 lety +4

      The toilet will be charged

    • @michals4249
      @michals4249 Před 3 lety +4

      I stop flying with Ryanair , there is plenty of choice.

    • @michals4249
      @michals4249 Před 3 lety

      Interesting video

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 Před 3 lety +13

      I'll take a the longest flight on Ryanair over 19th century steerage 100% of the time, and people from back then would fucking jump for joy for Ryanair compared to what they had.

  • @floydlooney6837
    @floydlooney6837 Před 4 lety +108

    0:52 - 3 pounds sterling in 1880 would be about 360 pounds today, it was a LOT of money

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +31

      Floyd Looney Good point, I should have included a point of reference.

    • @Prototheria
      @Prototheria Před 4 lety +9

      And how many Freedom Units is that?

    • @owenmitchell1469
      @owenmitchell1469 Před 4 lety +2

      Prototheria pounds are the currency in Britain, they’re not talking about freedom units

    • @keeganharris186
      @keeganharris186 Před 4 lety +7

      Owen Mitchell Owen Mitchell freedom units of money. Also it’s equal to 455.69 USD

    • @owenmitchell1469
      @owenmitchell1469 Před 4 lety +3

      Keegan Harris what the fuck are freedom units of money? Is it another word for American dollars or something?

  • @GodsyGirl
    @GodsyGirl Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thanks for this video. It allowed me to understand how my ancestor traveled from
    Jamaica. In 1885.

  • @danabe3220
    @danabe3220 Před 4 lety +63

    i always book a 3rd class cabin on the Queen Mary 2 when I do the transatlantic crossing. It's more comfortable than 1st class on a plane.

    • @carolewilson1311
      @carolewilson1311 Před 4 lety +1

      dan abe I want go from uk to New York in similar way can you pm me about it little info

    • @chronicawareness9986
      @chronicawareness9986 Před 4 lety

      @@carolewilson1311 czcams.com/video/eKEKn-ilMB4/video.html watch this video youll like it

    • @TIMBOWERMAN
      @TIMBOWERMAN Před rokem +2

      QM2 does NOT have 3rd class

    • @Kromsmitesyou
      @Kromsmitesyou Před rokem

      Bullshit

  • @taiyoctopus2958
    @taiyoctopus2958 Před 3 lety +8

    imagine being stuck on a boat with that many other people... no cell phones... no devices... no movies...
    Nothing to do but talk with other strangers on the boat and hear their stories, jokes and tales... eat, poop and sleep XD

  • @itsMe_TheHerpes
    @itsMe_TheHerpes Před 4 lety +14

    6:28 they even have a net at each bed, for you to put your phone in. amazing.

    • @vapecat3911
      @vapecat3911 Před 3 lety

      Of course, what else would it be?
      Waiting for a woosh btw

    • @itsMe_TheHerpes
      @itsMe_TheHerpes Před 3 lety

      @@vapecat3911 oh, you're a vaping cat, aren't you ?

  • @robertcollins7025
    @robertcollins7025 Před 2 lety +4

    My Great grandmother arrived in NY in 1886 on the Britannic. Steerage along with her parents and siblings. She said it was awful. In 1925 she sailed on the Olympic 2nd class from NYC to Southampton and 1st class from Southampton to NYC. Much different.

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah Před 3 lety +11

    Travelling Steerage looks rather rough, but travelling third class honestly looks better than any way I've traveled in the 21st century.

    • @strawberyyicecreamdream216
      @strawberyyicecreamdream216 Před 2 lety

      Are you trafficked regularly or something? I don't think I'd agree.

    • @CocoHutzpah
      @CocoHutzpah Před 2 lety +2

      @@strawberyyicecreamdream216 How often do you ride Greyhound?

    • @helenhoward5346
      @helenhoward5346 Před rokem +1

      @@CocoHutzpah lol. Yeah I think this person greatly exaggerates unless he lives in the developing world.

    • @therandomytchannel4318
      @therandomytchannel4318 Před 2 dny

      Third class exists today on some Indian and Russian railway networks, like it explains , it's cheap, make your own bed and buy your own food, many travel CZcamsrs have make videos travelling in third class and in general had a very positive and humorous experience, rather than in second or first class

  • @rileygardner2103
    @rileygardner2103 Před 4 lety +28

    This is great! If you plan to do any more on the Golden Age of Ocean Liners, one about the all the classes might be interesting (where it came from, how it persisted, the societal implications of them, why the offered what they did, etc.). Comparing ships of the age also might be really cool.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +5

      Riley Gardner thank you! I do plan on doing another video about classes, but I’m not sure yet what I will focus on or what the structure will be. I’ll take your suggestions into consideration.

    • @shaynewheeler9249
      @shaynewheeler9249 Před rokem

      Titanic engine cylinder coal fired steamship

  • @oldman975
    @oldman975 Před 4 lety +107

    After hearing my late father relate his experience on troop ships during World War Two,I don’t think late19th steerage was all that bad.

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 Před 3 lety +14

      RMS Queen Mary carried 15,740 US troops on one crossing of the Atlantic in WW2... Gawd.. they must have not only been eating in shifts.... but sleeping in shifts as well!

    • @Exodon2020
      @Exodon2020 Před 3 lety +6

      Trooper DGB and now imagine someone pulling a Lusitania on her... absolutely horrible thought.

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Exodon2020 The beauty of those big transatlantic liners was that they were SO fast that a U Boat had no chance at all of making a succesful attack from anywhere aft of centre...and little enough chance from anywhere else...but yes... - don't think Lusitania...think an even worse Wilhelm Gustloff!

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 Před 3 lety +5

      @@trooperdgb9722 5 days compared to 3-7 weeks for the troops crossing for the war of independence. Luxury!

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 Před 3 lety

      @@Ushio01 Good point! Imagine the state they would have been in on arrival!

  • @johanvangelderen289
    @johanvangelderen289 Před 4 lety +2

    My family immigrated to the USA from the Netherlands around 1960. Many people wanted to leave the country and it's colony Indonesia. The Dutch government purchased three former Victory merchant marine ships from the USA and converted them to passenger ships.
    The accommodations were basic yet perfectly adequate. The food was good. The voyage took ten days to cross the Atlantic.
    The conditions on that ship resembled third class on the newer, smaller ships in this video.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety

      Standards increased drastically over time. In the mid- to late-1800s, the conditions in steerage were inhumane by the standards of future generations.

    • @johanvangelderen289
      @johanvangelderen289 Před 4 lety

      @@TheGreatBigMove
      Of course.
      We do need to compare passenger comfort with that of the ships crew at the time.
      Their comfort wasn't very good at the time either.
      Ships existed to make a profit for their owners. The crew helped to make a profit.
      Passengers took up more space than bulk cargo and had need for some measure of comfort.
      I imagine that passenger ships of the 1700s and 1600s were considably more primitive.

  • @TheGreatBigMove
    @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +26

    Thank you for watching! I have thoroughly enjoyed making these videos for the past several months and can say with confidence that the content is improving. So is my audience! You all have been engaged and thoughtful from the beginning. If you like the show, please help out and SHARE your favorite Great Big Move video on social media. Also, follow @TheGreatBigMove on INSTAGRAM for unique photos and interesting captions.

    • @EatTheCreeperNow0
      @EatTheCreeperNow0 Před 4 lety

      Why is there no replys

    • @jonathanstrong7682
      @jonathanstrong7682 Před 4 lety

      It's still early. Good job addressing subjects often overlooked. Thanks for your effort.

    • @Guhonter
      @Guhonter Před 4 lety

      I found your channel today and subbed, for the content is different and interesting. But if I may? You sound so bored when narrating, it's like you're reading it off in a classroom to people neither interested nor listening. Maybe try image telling this to an attentive audience who are fascinated by your insight? I sure am :)

  • @Ethan7s
    @Ethan7s Před 4 lety +28

    I enjoyed the video, keep on making them.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +6

      Thank you, I certainly will continue making these videos.

  • @tomthx5804
    @tomthx5804 Před 4 lety +154

    What the hell is a one percent pound?

    • @Dynahi_Khavu
      @Dynahi_Khavu Před 4 lety +24

      Let's see...1lb is 16oz. 1% of 16oz would be 0.16oz, which is equivalent to 72.57 grams. I think that's right... (edit: Mr. March was correct with 4.54 grams. I used the wrong conversion. 0.16oz is 4.54 grams...which is a relatively small amount.)

    • @MrRickstopher
      @MrRickstopher Před 4 lety +3

      Thank you for asking the question like I did verbatim.

    • @marshja56
      @marshja56 Před 4 lety +51

      A pound is about 454 grams. One percent of that is 4.54 grams. I have never heard anyone use “percent pound” units before, very odd and confusing.

    • @elhombredeoro955
      @elhombredeoro955 Před 4 lety +2

      I am confused too. Maybe he means 1 per cent pound. Perhaps that's why he said "3 per cent pound bread, 1 per cent pound fresh bread". But then again that's what I think.

    • @Dynahi_Khavu
      @Dynahi_Khavu Před 4 lety +7

      My guess is that it's an archaic or outdated form if measurement that fell out at a certain point in the past and is no longer in use from that point forward as are many things...like haypenny.

  • @theempowerer5718
    @theempowerer5718 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This video would go crazy back in the day

  • @guillaumeromain6694
    @guillaumeromain6694 Před 4 lety +5

    I'm glad I found your channel. Great work ! I love your videos. You are very knowledgeable and animation is great. Thumbs up!

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +4

      Guillaume Romain Thanks for watching! I’m glad the videos are interesting to you. More to come!

  • @jarrodm1344
    @jarrodm1344 Před 4 lety

    Really enjoy your stuff mate. Hope to see more. Thanks for uploading.

  • @jacobwilson3115
    @jacobwilson3115 Před 4 lety +5

    Love the videos of the old ships!

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +1

      What old ship or class of ships would you like to see a video on? I'll try to add it to my list of upcoming videos.

  • @bassmith448bassist5
    @bassmith448bassist5 Před 2 lety +1

    I never knew that I was interested in this aspect of history until I found your chanel!!! Well Done!!! Liked and subbed immediately!!!!!

  • @TheGreatBigMove
    @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +11

    Thank you for watching! If you liked this and other videos on my channel, please consider supporting my work by joining me on Patreon (see link in description). You will receive exclusive benefits and help improve the content I am able to put out. When we reach our (very attainable) goal, I will launch a new and exclusive video series called The Quick Short Move which will consist of shorter videos on interesting topics which might not require a full-length video. The Quick Short Move will be available to all Patrons.

  • @merediths2cents
    @merediths2cents Před 11 měsíci

    I enjoyed that, I rarely watch a video to the end. You win!

  • @elliottmanning
    @elliottmanning Před 4 lety +2

    Made a couple of voyages between Hawaii and Los Angeles in 1957 & 1961 in Dormitory cabins and Bathrooms down the hall. Almost like Steerage Passengers!!!

  • @deanb4799
    @deanb4799 Před 3 lety +1

    Cool channel. Looking forward to future content!

  • @samthekingyo
    @samthekingyo Před 4 lety +1

    Just wanted to say keep it up, your videos are great and I expect you'll really pick up in subs soon. Thanks for doing this!

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you, Samuel. I appreciate your taking the time to say that. I am quite happy with the growth I've seen in this channel over the past several weeks!

  • @torgeirbrandsnes1916
    @torgeirbrandsnes1916 Před 3 lety +2

    Great vlog. The reason for the rise in standard in 3rd class was due to an outbreake of difteria onboard a Hapag Lloyd ship in the 1890s. Many people died and the ship was forced to return to Hamburg. After that the 3rd class got a huge makeover in cabin and meal service.

  • @fordlandau
    @fordlandau Před 3 lety +3

    You gave a great voice for this series.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 3 lety +2

      I actually think the narration on my older videos is quite poor, but I have been actively working on improving it. So, hopefully my newer videos sound better!

  • @kylewyler2290
    @kylewyler2290 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome video! Thank you

  • @Ryan-ps5xc
    @Ryan-ps5xc Před 3 lety +1

    Wow thanks for the great video. It was very interesting.

  • @cadaverdog1424
    @cadaverdog1424 Před 4 lety

    Great video!! Excellently written and read!!

  • @danmcdonald9117
    @danmcdonald9117 Před 3 lety +1

    Top video! Thank you! 👍👍👍

  • @bobling98
    @bobling98 Před 3 lety +1

    Incredible video!

  • @nathanstansfield9645
    @nathanstansfield9645 Před 4 lety +3

    Love the content, as a history grad, I search for entertaining content like this on CZcams, and yours is some of the best. Would love if you could leave links to websites, othsr videos, or even book suggestions at the end of videos so we can find out more! Thanks for making your vids

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +2

      Nathan Stansfield Thanks for the kind words and I’m glad you’re enjoying the videos. My more recent videos include sources in the descriptions as will all future videos.

    • @nathanstansfield9645
      @nathanstansfield9645 Před 4 lety

      @@TheGreatBigMove Awesome man, cheers!

  • @gavinli2443
    @gavinli2443 Před 4 lety +2

    Cool video and love the footage

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety

      Even though it makes the production time much longer, I try to include as much footage as possible to keep people engaged.

  • @ardiffley-zipkin9539
    @ardiffley-zipkin9539 Před 2 lety

    Well done presentation, content & delivery.

  • @lashawndabug5245
    @lashawndabug5245 Před 2 lety +3

    Steerage food actually looks pretty good ngl

  • @pietersteenekamp2281
    @pietersteenekamp2281 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you - nicely and clear explanation .

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 4 lety

    Very interesting.
    Thank you.

  • @user-gu8qi4me8x
    @user-gu8qi4me8x Před 3 měsíci

    This video is actually genuinely underated and damm

  • @edwinwise6751
    @edwinwise6751 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice work thanks

  • @commodoresixfour7478
    @commodoresixfour7478 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank god my family came with their own boat.

  • @CFinch360
    @CFinch360 Před 4 lety

    Super interesting and informative.

  • @damnjustassignmeone
    @damnjustassignmeone Před 4 lety

    Great video!

  • @ktsp2538
    @ktsp2538 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice, I found you out from your ocean liner vs crisis ship video and I plan on checking out your next video

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +1

      I'm glad to hear it! I will have more videos like that one coming. If you have any suggestions for video topics, I am always open to them.

    • @ktsp2538
      @ktsp2538 Před 4 lety +1

      The Great Big Move Maybe you could talk about the ocean liner companies back when the Titanic was still afloat

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety

      KTSP I will probably do that at some point in the future. It’s already been done well for the White Star Line by Titanic Honor and Glory. You might want to check that out in the meantime

  • @robbiekipping1124
    @robbiekipping1124 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent

  • @giovannirastrelli9821
    @giovannirastrelli9821 Před 4 lety +27

    You date Oceanic (II) as 1889, but she was built in 1899.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +15

      Thanks for pointing that out--must have been a typo. Sorry about that!

  • @YaMumsSpecialFriend
    @YaMumsSpecialFriend Před 4 lety

    Nice one mate👌🏻

  • @MmntechCa
    @MmntechCa Před 4 lety +1

    It's worth comparing the food of the 1880s vs what was available on Titanic in 1912. Such as on April 14th, they started the day with ham and eggs, oatmeal, smoked herring, fresh bread with butter and marmalade, with a choice of tea and coffee. For dinner, it was a classic roast beef with gravy served with sweet corn and boiled potatoes, with rice soup and fresh bread to start. For dessert, they had fresh fruit and plum pudding. For tea, they had a selection of cold meats, cheeses, fresh bread, presumably a rice pudding made with stewed figs, and of course tea. For a late night supper, you could have your choice of gruel (which was more like modern cream of wheat), cheese, and "cabin biscuits", which are basically crackers. Simple, but tasty. Not much different than a modern Sunday dinner for most people. Third class were also provided with water fountains in public areas, and even a bar for men to order drinks in the 3rd Class Smoke Room.

  • @MsAggie78
    @MsAggie78 Před 3 lety +1

    Those food rations were actually bomb.😍😍 Super healthy, too.

  • @ClearsightAltAccount
    @ClearsightAltAccount Před 4 lety +6

    8:48 Actually, ocean liners havent disappeared entirely. The Queen Mary 2 is a ocean liner and is still in service.

  • @Mosin-lf7wl
    @Mosin-lf7wl Před 3 lety +1

    I like this channel-new scriber!

  • @Thatguy-kg3tz
    @Thatguy-kg3tz Před 3 lety

    This channel is underrated

  • @Prototheria
    @Prototheria Před 4 lety +2

    I guess the saying, "they don't make them like they used to" meant something more positive back then.

  • @WormholeGarden
    @WormholeGarden Před 3 lety +3

    Transatlantic Passage Times:
    AD1760: >1000 hours
    AD1840: ~330 hours
    AD1920: ~110 hours
    AD2000:

    • @philismenko
      @philismenko Před 2 lety

      If factoring in air travel, ad 200 has a transatlantic crossing of

    • @WormholeGarden
      @WormholeGarden Před 2 lety

      ​@@philismenko I don't count a couple of decades of unprofitable flights that were scrapped and never considered again.
      There were only 20 Concordes and they only made 50,000 flights over 27 years: that means each Concorde flew an average of about once a week.
      I know of nothing other than aircraft that can make the transatlantic crossing in less than seven hours.
      Any jet typically does NYC-LON in less than seven hours.
      The record by boat stands at 59 hours.

  • @leonidshapiro3066
    @leonidshapiro3066 Před 4 lety +9

    Every present dweller of US must thank the ancestors for their braveness to make such terrible voyage .

    • @floydlooney6837
      @floydlooney6837 Před 4 lety

      Many of our ancestors came in the early 1900's too

    • @Kammithekiller
      @Kammithekiller Před 4 lety +2

      Mine had it a lot worse than steerage... (slave ships) BUT i agree with your sentiment. Imagine coming here with nothing and still pushing forward.

    • @floydlooney6837
      @floydlooney6837 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Kammithekiller Even the ones who made the choice, often it was the entire family or clan that decided, it wasn't easy. The Irish were treated terribly too but as many said "Still beats starving to death".

    • @herpnderpn2484
      @herpnderpn2484 Před 4 lety +2

      I wonder, but cannot fathom what is would be like.
      My family came over mostly in the early 1800s, and depending of what side you look at, land bridges in prehistoric times.

  • @ThisIsNotAhnJieRen
    @ThisIsNotAhnJieRen Před 3 lety +3

    So based on this video, the Third Class on the Olympic Class Ships were definitely luxurious.

  • @loveycat5474
    @loveycat5474 Před 3 lety

    My dad and I booked a third class room on a curse ship in the early 2000s. We first booked a room without windows. Because there were rooms with windows available when we arrived, we were given one with no extra cost. Our room had two single beds and a private bathroom with a shower. We had maid service each day. We were able to eat all we wanted in any restaurant on the ship including the fancy dinning room with no extra cost. We had access to pools, library, movie theater, shows, gym, activities, and guided tours at no extra cost. The only things that were extra cost was shopping on and off the ship, casino, laundry facilities and our own private tours. A lot different then it was in the early 1900s. My dad was old enough to have steerage at the same cost if he had been on a cruise when he was a child. Times have really changed.⛴️⛴️⚓⚓

  • @brookingsbeachcomber
    @brookingsbeachcomber Před 3 lety +1

    the good old days... when we rode in the bilge

  • @kristinarain9098
    @kristinarain9098 Před 3 lety +2

    I used to set up the inflight entertainment on Business Class (first class) seats of aircraft for international air carriers
    Like aerlingus, Lufthansa, TurkishAir, Аэрофлот etc
    We never use 3rd Class to describe it or even Coach, its Tourist Class and 1st class is Business class.
    The Seats for Lufthansa business class were i think of a proprietary design and consisted of parts of different matset ials from fabrics and textiles to aluminum, steel, and polymers. There were over 1500 individual plastic parts alone per the the business classs seats for Lufthansa.
    These seats are big and require some tricky engineering to allow different parts to tuck/stow and extend from aN upright seat to a small flattened surface or bed.
    The motors and series of different gears and rods and other surfaces required to do all the articulating was fascinating and very complicated. The IFE or in-flight entertainment was starting to use more fiber optic lines instead of copper for transporting data to and from the screen/monitor to the cpu located in a small flat box deep beneath the seat closest to the floor and that monitor is situated in the bacl of the seat in front of you.
    I havent worked there for a few years but its interesting how you haffta ground your connections on something that's 5 miles up going 200mph. I think there's some onboard 3 phase system for allowing that

    • @Retrakk
      @Retrakk Před 3 lety

      What on earth are you drivelling on about? How does any of this relate to this video?

    • @kristinarain9098
      @kristinarain9098 Před 3 lety

      @@Retrakk there was a thing about the proper nomenclature for what was deemed: 1st class, 2nd ass, coach, tourist, business etc.
      It, for say international air carriers is called Business Class and Tourist class.
      We never ever used Coach, 3rd, Pleb, Serf, Peon, or even Peasant Class.
      The point was speaking of the evolution of said nomenclature and the bulk was my credentials signifying that I was verily a part of the need ti know what to call the different seatings by class or low key caste.
      Does that helpnyou? Am I not allowed to share my experiences? Does it bug you that much? If your point was _'was all this necessary?'_ then yes, but what say you? Was your response necessary? Was it genuine? Or were you merely attempting to make me look or seem a particular way to an otherwise misinformed or not fully informed passerby?

  • @captainevenslower4400
    @captainevenslower4400 Před 8 měsíci

    To be fair this is still better than what you get on modern ships for 3rd class or simply "deck passage" like on ferrys. Where you don't even get a bed or allocated meals/water but solely the right to be on board.

  • @kerrytaylor1795
    @kerrytaylor1795 Před 3 lety +2

    I'd love to learn more about what it was like onboard paddle-steamers and riverboats. Would you consider making a video about that please?

    • @heronimousbrapson863
      @heronimousbrapson863 Před 2 lety +1

      If you visit Kaslo, British Columbia in Canada, you can tour the SS Moyie, a preserved stern wheeler that plied the inland waters of Kootenay lake from 1897 - 1957.

    • @kerrytaylor1795
      @kerrytaylor1795 Před 2 lety

      @@heronimousbrapson863 I appreciate the thought but I live in Australia

    • @heronimousbrapson863
      @heronimousbrapson863 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kerrytaylor1795 yes, I understand your dilemma....

  • @Thewestcoastshooter
    @Thewestcoastshooter Před 2 lety +1

    Would be very interested to a more in depth look at the other classes of travel

  • @Daniel_Huffman
    @Daniel_Huffman Před 4 lety +20

    Ironically that picture shown at 0:23 was actually taken sometime between 1928 and 1937, not the 1880s. Also, the ship in the photograph, the SS _Gülcemal,_ began her life as the White Star Liner _Germanic._
    Also, if anyone wants to know what it was like to travel on the _Oceanic_ class, the first modern ocean liners, here you go: czcams.com/video/YKdYY8qD2YE/video.html

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +8

      Great catch. I did not know that that was the former Germanic in the picture. Thank you for sharing!

    • @sarge6870
      @sarge6870 Před 4 lety +2

      Clicked on the link and got an error that states "Video Unavailable This video is private". ???

    • @Daniel_Huffman
      @Daniel_Huffman Před 4 lety +4

      Fixed it.

    • @sarge6870
      @sarge6870 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Daniel_Huffman Yes you did...Thank you ! :)

  • @madbug1965
    @madbug1965 Před 3 měsíci

    My family came from Asian to Hawaii in 1906. They rode in steerage with 150 other people . The Pacific Ocean travelers did not have the option of larger ships...

  • @RonJohn63
    @RonJohn63 Před 4 lety +6

    1:54 3% pounds of bread... 1% pounds of bread... 1% pounds of oatmeal... 1% pounds of peas... You're mistranslating something.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Před 4 lety +1

      I was also a little confused, but I think they are talking of is another name for a Metric ounce (25g), it might have been a measurement that was used as a compromise in the day, many would still use the avoirdupois pound in the US, whilst the London pound was in vogue in Britain. the modern standard pound would not have been common back then...

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 Před 2 lety +3

    Just like being in a Weatherpoons on a Friday night

  • @apexxxx10
    @apexxxx10 Před 4 lety

    *Många svenskar for över atlanten som "däckspassagerare". Tack för en mycket intressant video. Bangkok-Jomppa*

  • @IntrepidMilo
    @IntrepidMilo Před 4 lety +1

    The third class is still around on pretty much every cruise ship. It is no longer referred to as third-class but it is there. Take a modern cruise ship for example. There are inside cabins following that there are outside cabins which are the cheapest and going up from there you have veranda cabins and finally suites. Depending on the price you wish to pay. Cunard is still a class structured ship. There are three dining rooms and based on what cabin you book determines what dining room you are assigned too. The Britannia is equal to the third class, the princess grill is second and the queen grill is first.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety

      I wouldn’t compare inside cabins on cruise ships to third class because they have access to all the public amenities. Maybe QM2 is an exception in a sense but passengers still generally have the same access to public spaces.

  • @dog8958
    @dog8958 Před 3 lety +5

    Can you do a video about 2nd class? It’s really hard to find a video about it.

  • @asylumlover
    @asylumlover Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bring back my ocean liners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jamesmckay9966
    @jamesmckay9966 Před 2 lety

    My Norwegian Grand father and mother plus some of my uncles and aunts paid their way across by pealing potatoes etc.

  • @tomellis4750
    @tomellis4750 Před 4 lety +104

    Interesting content, but the narration is like a robot in a race.

    • @andylindsaytunes
      @andylindsaytunes Před 4 lety +10

      I enjoyed the video, and gave it a thumbs up, but he sounds more like a bored robot to me.

    • @chronicawareness9986
      @chronicawareness9986 Před 4 lety +4

      i personally
      like his narration style but i guess we are all different. Check out Bob Gimlin's channel on youtube he has a robotic style but his videos are freaking awesome..

    • @SynchronizorVideos
      @SynchronizorVideos Před 4 lety +8

      I'd rather have a somewhat flat delivery with good, well-organized info than someone trying to be hip and meme-y while pushing poorly-researched or incomplete facts mixed in with useless filler. Besides, this is only the fourth video on this channel; lots of folks take some time to work out their delivery and style.

    • @KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices
      @KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices Před 4 lety +4

      @@SynchronizorVideos *Cough cough* Bright Side *cough cough*

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 3 lety +2

      I slowed it down to 0.75 so it'll be more watchable.
      The narrator sounds as if he had to keep the video length below 10 minutes otherwise he'd be charged extra.

  • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial

    have you ever herd of ss Keewatin she wasn't an ocean liner but she's the last great passenger ships from the Edwardian era . the reason why i mentioned her was because she is probably the closest you can get to know that an ocean liner may have looked like with the only difference being that you are on the ship that's not the Queen Mary from 112 years ago she is currently docked in port Nichole, Canada. would you be able to do a video about ss Keewatin

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety

      freedom loving loyalist I will add Keewatin to my list. I may not get to it for a while, but I will likely get to make a video on Great Lakes maritime much sooner. I’m looking forward to that one!

    • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial
      @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheGreatBigMove thank you and do talk about her rivals the ss South America and North America not many people talk about those ships in detail on CZcams if you ignore the tribute videos

  • @timsummers870
    @timsummers870 Před 3 lety +3

    My family came from lovely Germany in steerage, in 1900. It must have been rough and it took them exactly 30 days to cross the Atlantic.

    • @jackalenterprisesofohio
      @jackalenterprisesofohio Před 3 lety

      What just a month
      It took longer than that for dad to get lights for the garage.

    • @SQUAREHEADSAM1912
      @SQUAREHEADSAM1912 Před 2 lety

      By 1900 it took only a little under 6 days

    • @timsummers870
      @timsummers870 Před 2 lety

      @@SQUAREHEADSAM1912 I have the dates of departure and arrival. It took 30 days.

    • @SQUAREHEADSAM1912
      @SQUAREHEADSAM1912 Před 2 lety

      @@timsummers870 maybe in the 1830s but by the 1870s ships to about 12days, by 1900 6 days, and by mid 20th century 4 days or less.

    • @carolgonka6596
      @carolgonka6596 Před rokem

      @@SQUAREHEADSAM1912 my grandparents came from Italy in 1909 and it took 30days I have documents to prove this

  • @ev1558
    @ev1558 Před 3 lety +2

    I'd like to see cruse ships do some ocean-lining again

    • @lukedoherty8062
      @lukedoherty8062 Před 3 lety +1

      Cunard lines?

    • @thetheatreorgan168
      @thetheatreorgan168 Před 2 lety

      What i find interesting is that the older disney cruise ships have a long bow, short superstructure

  • @xmanhoe
    @xmanhoe Před 4 lety

    If that's what they got to eat per day per person then they where better fed than some folks today! PS great video .

  • @unitedkingdomofgreatbritai9

    I'll take a 3rd class ticket on RMS Olympic thank you very much.

  • @JuanGarcia-vb3du
    @JuanGarcia-vb3du Před 4 lety

    Reminds me of a TV commercial from the 1970's. "Nobody is second class on Southern (Airlines)." Love your videos. Great Work!

  • @simmy1251
    @simmy1251 Před 3 lety +6

    Can you do one on second class? I feel they’re over looked.

  • @BeachsideHank
    @BeachsideHank Před 4 lety

    Your diction is impressive and is easily digestible while keeping pace, well done.☺

  • @lagdroid0017
    @lagdroid0017 Před 3 lety

    I love Economy even more now

  • @CombraStudios
    @CombraStudios Před 4 lety

    Did you buy the Titanic deck plans from encyclopedia titanica or do you know a way to get them for free in full res? THX

  • @randomobserver8168
    @randomobserver8168 Před 4 lety

    You can really see in the 1880s that things have moved on just a little bit from the conditions of sailing vessels in the preceding centuries- very little. A faster, more robust ship, but that modest reduction in travel time and increase in safety was about it. Otherwise, might as well be a slightly bigger Mayflower.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 Před 4 lety

      pretty much. the commercial revolution of the late 1800s cannot be under estimated. I think between 1860-1910 quality of life increased to an amazing extent.

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714

    It was normal back then to have food for a year on you. Farmers would always have enogh food till next harvest so they knew how much a their family would eat so the rest could be sold of an not have to rot. It was also normal to have everything else you needed onu.

  • @mxes5938
    @mxes5938 Před 3 lety +2

    imagine having to bring your own mattress

  • @Oddman1980
    @Oddman1980 Před 3 lety +3

    So, stupid question looking at these pictures of steam ships - what are the masts for?

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 3 lety +6

      Not a stupid question. For a while, steamships used sailed for additional speed and as a backup in case of a failure (there originally was little faith in steam engines). After sails were completely gone from steamships, masts were there for tradition, aesthetics, and secondary functions such as wiring and the crows nest.

    • @Retrakk
      @Retrakk Před 3 lety +2

      The first steam ships designed for ocean voyage had both sails and steam engines, they were used together or separately depending on the weather conditions. Masts are also used for functions beyond sailing; visibility via the 'crow's nest' when entering port or navigating around foreign bodies, communication via flag signals, and monitoring windspeed and wind direction fluctuations.

  • @OnkelJajusBahn
    @OnkelJajusBahn Před 4 lety +1

    Really interresting to see how transport was before. If they would still excist, I would maybee do a transatlantic trip with one of the more modern ones. Thanks for your great videos. I'm glad I found your channel.

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 4 lety +1

      I want to cross an ocean on the Queen Mary 2 myself. Thanks for watching!

  • @tonydeleo3642
    @tonydeleo3642 Před 4 lety +24

    What is meant by 1% pound of beef, etc?

    • @PiperStart
      @PiperStart Před 3 lety

      1/100

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 Před 3 lety

      .01 pound sterling

    • @Nooziterp1
      @Nooziterp1 Před 3 lety +2

      @@jamesricker3997 Pound in this case means pound weight. Pound sterling is currency.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 Před 3 lety +5

      Someone else suggested that the narrator was misreading "1lb p.c." which meant one pound (weight) per capita, in other words one pound per head.

    • @Luke-tg9jy
      @Luke-tg9jy Před 3 lety +1

      ive listened twice and cant really make sense of the numbers. it kind of makes sense if by 1% of a 1 pound = 454g youd get 4.54g of that pound. but then he goes on about 1 lb of beef the fish a couple pounds of potatoes. I donno if im stupid high or this really makes no sense. wtf is a gale...

  • @jo3jo3.d
    @jo3jo3.d Před 4 lety +1

    Interesting...

  • @VB83280
    @VB83280 Před 2 lety +1

    I mean you’ve got to put yourself in the time period. The late 19th century was a time of progression and transition from the old ways of life into a more industrial society.
    I say the same thing about people who complain and critique the conditions of people living in places like England during the Industrial period and them saying how bad they were. Would you rather the way Russian people lived ? With no electricity, no wages, no opportunity to generate wealth through business and entrepreneurship and a depressing subsistence livelihood. Sure these conditions are awful and unimaginable for us, but discomfort is infinitely better than serfdom.

  • @drummerboy1390
    @drummerboy1390 Před 2 lety

    It’s like Butlins without the sea sickness.

  • @uniquely.mediocre1865
    @uniquely.mediocre1865 Před 4 lety

    So, can you do a similar video but for all classes on ocean liners between 1830 and 1870, especially the black sheep of that time being the Great Eastern

    • @crankychris2
      @crankychris2 Před 2 lety +1

      Hay, that she was. Her only 'honorable duty' was laying a replacement telephone line for 2 years.

    • @uniquely.mediocre1865
      @uniquely.mediocre1865 Před 2 lety

      @@crankychris2 true, regardless however, I absolutely love her

  • @lightbox617
    @lightbox617 Před 3 lety

    Regarding the rations. If I'm hearing this correctly, the rations for one adult per day would feed me for 3 days. I don't think I could do the bathroom regime

  • @csillab3804
    @csillab3804 Před rokem

    At 0:53 there is an interesting picture , at least for me. It seems to me I saw it long time back. My dad has a book "The first years of the xx century in pictures" I used to watch many time in my childhood . There was a picture about Hungarian immigrants who stood on long lines to get on steam liners to emigrate in the new world . I'm 90% sure this is the picture and these ppl are Hungarian immigrants! In the first few years of xx century Kingdom of Hungary lost 1 million ppl. Which is a huge number . Wondering if the descendants of these ppl know about this picture and if they would recognize their ancestors among these very poor men and women. From the children of these Hungarians got out even pilots! who bombed Budapest in the second world war. Márai Sándor write about this in "The confession of a bourgeois" .

  • @nopenotme6369
    @nopenotme6369 Před 3 lety

    “Brickyard,” I’m getting Rjet flashbacks.

  • @tvoommen4688
    @tvoommen4688 Před 4 lety

    5:40 Scene from Godfather 2 in charcoal medium !

  • @merafirewing6591
    @merafirewing6591 Před 3 lety +2

    Could you do a video about the SS Great Eastern, the Great Western, and the Great Britain?

    • @TheGreatBigMove
      @TheGreatBigMove  Před 3 lety

      Great eastern coming soon

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheGreatBigMove also I've been making up my own ocean liners even a class based on the preliminary designs of the Olympic class. Looking forward to the Great Eastern video.

  • @lightdark00
    @lightdark00 Před 3 lety

    Where can I find a version of this for the 1600s and around 1780?

    • @ipodhty
      @ipodhty Před 2 lety

      I think at that time they didn't really have enough shipping to have classes. You just araged stuff privately with the ship owner