HOW TO BECOME A COP - The Polygraph - Police Hiring Process
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2020
- In this "Becoming a Cop" series, you will learn about the polygraph. We will go over the requirements for becoming an officer, and what it takes to be a police officer.
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BECOMING A COP SERIES:
1. Introduction
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
2. The Initial Application
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
3. The Written Exam
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
4. The Oral Interview
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
5. The Physical Abilities Test
• HOW TO BECOME A COP -T...
6. The Background Investigation
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
7. The Polygraph
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
8. The Psychological Exam
• Video
9. The Medical Exam
• HOW TO BECOME A COP - ...
Just did a polygraph for police process, in the drug and criminal acts portion he kept asking me about my involvement in selling drugs which is 0. He told me I was lying and that I was hiding something from him, he then started to try and get a reaction out of me by telling me that I was a failure and things of that nature and that I was going to be thrown out of the process for lying. Then 20 minutes later says congrats you passed and that I did great lol
I took mike today. They also told me that I was hiding something in that same topic in regards to drugs consumption, distribution, etc. They kept asking the same question over and over just rephrasing it. I’ve never done drugs or even been in contact with them. Not sure why it spiked on the poly.
I sold cocaine 14 years ago .. but felt bad about selling to my friends so I stopped. We all grew up in a different circumstances.. so easy for you . But I never did a drug
So what did u say to him
Same I just did my test it was my first time doing one ain’t gonna lie I was nervous but I was honest about everything. Hope y’all got the job.
@@real-reality3531did you sell to friends cause I sold to friends and it was only weed and it’s legal now in my state I regret doing it now cause it’s dumb but I wanted money when I was younger
Fun fact: The guy who made the Polygraph said its not precise and he regrets making it. Kinda funny that the police use it for the hiring procedure.
Why don’t they polygraph school teachers, priests, and politicians?
The Polygraph and other pseudo science “lie” detectors such as Eye Detect (pupil dilation monitoring) and the CVSA (Computer Voice Stress Analysis) are all scam props. These fraudulent devices are worthless for actually determining truthful or deceptive answers. The scam of these devices are to scare confessions out of naive criminal suspects whom actually believe they work in a legitimate way. There is no Pinocchio 🤥 effect when a person lies. Your nose doesn’t grow when you lie. These industries rely on you to believe in the Pinocchio effect. You can be nervous and truthful at the same time. If you were to even believe in the pseudo science that these industries depend on you to do, one needs to understand there is absolutely no way to have a “non-relevant” or “relevant” question that are equal anyways. Example given, it’s impossible to ask someone “is your name ________” vs. “did you have sex” or “did you kill”. Your physiology isn’t going to be the same regardless and your physiology is meaningless anyways. Nervous people can be truthful. Calm, cool people can be liars. There are videos that demonstrate these scams on this app. Look up the ‘60 Minutes Polygraph episode titled “Truth and Consequences” with Diane Sawyer’ , ‘ABC News Exposes NITV CVSA Scam’ and ‘Dr. Drew C. Richardson’s 1997 Senate Testimony on Polygraph Screening.’
@@STeroidsnicca they should use a polygraph on the obiden administration. Lol
@@williammills8953 why
@Oliver Judson because they’re liers lol
So reliable and precise it’s not allowed in court. This practice is archaic and faulty.
I don’t understand how it’s even allowed for them to use this in the hiring process. If the machine says you lied then you get a nice “thanks but no thanks” letter in the mail. I’ve heard of guys who lied their ass off and passed, and others who were 100% honest and failed.
@@w_4ca it shouldn't be used... alot of it depends on the examiner's ability. Some examiner's are really bad at their jobs and fail innocent but nervous people.
@@w_4ca I heard the lie is based on your truth, so for example, have you killed some one, and you say no, but you did kill some one, but your truth is that you did not kill that person, but in your mind you liberated them. Hell snowden passed it.
@@w_4ca 100%. It’s a complete crock of shi*
The Polygraph and the CVSA are scam props. See the links:
czcams.com/video/ROhp2aS9pQU/video.html
czcams.com/video/dsufvxgLf0g/video.html
czcams.com/video/Z4Ss9rR-dXM/video.html
Eye Detect, pupil dilation is also the latest of these scams. There is no Pinocchio 🤥 effect when a person lies. These industries are making huge profits scamming us all. The USA 🇺🇸 Supreme Court, in an 8 to 1 majority opinion, 1998 US vs. Scheffer, ruled after exhaustive study and debate, that the Polygraph is reliable as the “toss of a coin”. The Pentagon also came to the same conclusion with the CVSA.
I've taken multiple polys. On the last ones, I passed my Poly with one agency and Voice Stress with another. On both fronts I thought I failed. Both had me re-answer questions that kept giving me problems so I thought I was done for. In the end, I got calls from both agencies to continue in the background process.
My advice is get all of your stress out the way by talking honestly and candidly with the polygrapher. Once that is out of your system, you'll feel alot better going into the actual polygraph exam. You don't get DQ'd for minor wrong doings (in some cases major) in the past, but you'll get DQ'd for lying.
About to take my poly in 2 days. How long did it take for both agencies to reach out to you after finishing both polygraph exams? A few days, week?
I ask because I’m waiting to see for a police department agency I applied and also for CBP.
Thank you so much for your tips and advice! You were one of the few CZcamsrs who I watched throughout my police hiring process. Much love!
The polygraph was so dumb I purposely lied in some answers to test it and the chief said i was the first person to pass it this fast with flying colors...
lolll
lmao im tagging your chief
Yeah polygraphs are not reliable enough. I get they get a sense of things, but crazy how they still use it. It's not a surprise why 60% of police departments struggle to hire strictly because of the polygraph.
This is great, Thanks!
Respected Sir!
Thank you so much indeed!
With Respect and Gratitude,
God bless!!!
I worked for 3 different police departments and passed all 3 polygraphs (I have no idea how). Also, a lot of larger departments (big city departments) don't even give these because it's too expensive and time consuming. These are probably 20% accurate at best.
I applied to be a cop and went through the hiring process and got to the polygraph lol. I passed it but the funny thing is I lied about multiple things multiple times because I never wrote it down on my big life packet I had to fill out. It really is crazy that if you just look forward and just breath in normal calm breaths and not move while you are in that chair, then you really can pass a polygraph. I was super surprised when they told me I passed with no triggers or anything that showed me maybe even lying. So yes, I would say you shouldn’t even use a polygraph for the hiring process.
I knew a cop who lied about his cocaine use , passed and was hired
@@christianknapp02 Background packet. 26 pages of life history
I have mine in 2 weeks any tips for the same situation on the life packet?
@@Sk8RsFoRLiF3 here’s the deal. They tell you “tell the truth”
No.
Tell the truth about what they can prove. Ever had a ticket? That’s easily found. Ever been suspended in school? There’s records. Ever stole some shit from someone?
Let’s say you say yes, something small like dumb juvenile shit like a pack of gum at a 711 or something from school. The investigator will ask you this question during the test, say you are lying. Which they have zero idea that you are, maybe your heart rate went up or he’s just fucking with you in hopes you admit something else.
He says “are you sure you didn’t take anything else?” You go “uhh oh yah I might have stolen a cd from my friend 10 years ago”
Boom. Done. You’re fired due to deceptive answers. Good luck getting hired by someone else.
Do not fall for this shit dude. Choose your answers, don’t go overboard into details and stick with it. Don’t offer tons of bullshit personal things they can’t prove. I’ve seen people admit to getting sexts from their gfs when they’re both 16 and labeled sending/receiving child porn.
@@Sk8RsFoRLiF3 howd you do?
Probably the dumbest part of the process. If you did anything you obviously wouldn’t be applying to be an officer. Stress and blood pressure doesn’t have shit to do with your actions etc. there’s people with anxiety issues etc who have irregular symptoms.
Me. I have irregular heart beats and my hands sweat like stupid crazy. That’s natural of me. I’ve been to 1000000’s of cardiologist and they all say I’m fine. My heart is fine, my sweatiness is just weird. But what if it triggers while in being interviewed? It’ll prevent me from becoming a cop. Even though I was honest.
Dumbest? No. Just... no. My agency uses the polygraph. It's a tool that gets people to make admissions they otherwise wouldn't make. We had an applicant who admitted to having sex with animals during his polygraph. Had we not done the polygraph, he'd never have disclosed it and God knows what kind of egg we'd have on our face when he did some degenerate thing.
@@smokey9537 Probably.
It disqualifies a lot of good candidates what a joke!!
@@Usmc-iw2qz Well did it prevent you from being a cop or what?
Yeh, I deal with inmates and will yell and keep my composure other then smirking when the compliment drunk comes in. Now talks with supervisors and exams make me nervous but I passed a vocal analysis so it shouldn’t be to hard.
Thanks for not having a long drawn out video that talks nothing about what the title claims, pretty much every video like this I come across is just some dude saying his opinion and what not to do but nothing about the actual subject
Just exposes ppl with anxiety
and panic disorder
man i’m terrified!! i have anxiety but i’ve learned to control it on the outside it’s gonna be completely laid out for them on paper 😭
@@twocathome399 How do you think you did?
@@alejandrovillegas4195 i passed it! it wasn’t too bad the process was actually kind of fun lol
This cant be constitutional, it makes you guilty of something your not and could leave a emotional scar. Defamation of character
Great video.
I remember reading a news story where a guy had applied with the California Highway Patrol and was asked in the pretest if he had ever viewed child pornography. Whether he had viewed it intentionally or by accident the article did not say, but he was honest and admitted that he had. He was later charged with a crime for admitting to that. Be careful of what you say.
Should he she just dq'd him wtf
I thought you don’t get in trouble with the test for jobs lol
i appreciate this advice
Hello, can you make a playlist of the how to become a cop video series?
My theory is I think it’s more of a stress test. If you are stressed, you fail, nothing to do with truthfulness per se. As he stated, people who are honest even fail.
It’s honestly is. Knowing this now I will be more prepared for my next couple of test
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
I'm so worried about the polygraph... Because I'm going to be nervous anyway it's going to think I'm lying...
Did you pass
Professor Alexander concludes by noting that “[e]xposing police lying is difficult largely because it is rare for the police to admit their own lies or to acknowledge the lies of other officers. This reluctance derives partly from the code of silence that governs police practice and from the ways in which the system of mass incarceration is structured to reward dishonesty. But it’s also because police officers are human.”
So r we the public r human too.
so whats the point of the test if you can fail it by being honest?
thank u
Why would they ask me to do the polygraph before a oral interview and before the written test
So telling the person administering the polygraph test that you don't trust it will fail you..
I personally believe the polygraph test is meant to blackmail those who dare to be in opposition for any reason in the future. Loyalty is very important in that field. They don't care about the crimes you committed in the past. You just need to past the test for employment.
Thanks for the tips! I passed mine today. It was very easy, just be honest and you’ll do fine. it’s very different in person, but good luck to anyone taking it.
What questions were you asked?
I was honest and got railroaded with the NYSP…
The polygraph is nerve-racking. However, I made it to the Oral Board Review. Let's keep it moving.Passed my Oral Review.
How’d it go? You become an officer?
@@Epic-Gamer50 The experience was great. I'm still in process. I will know in November.
Did you get the job ? I applied today 😊
@@Epic-Gamer50 I decided against it. I'm pursuing other goals.
@@FreeStateofFlorida Man, I also have something else. I have a police polygraph exam in 2 days. But I’m also waiting on my CBP Officer polygraph too…
Don’t even know which one. lol
I just took the multiple choice test for LAPD. I’m so nervous about the interviews and this specific test when the time comes I have no idea why. I haven’t done anything seriously wrong, but I feel like I’ll mess everything up being nervous.
Don't know if you took it already.... but a word of advice its all a mind game. They are going to make you as uncomfortable as they can to see how weak you are. If you give in your done.......... don't worry because its a make believe machine.
@@robertnunez9989 I just completed my personal history statement. 🥶 The interview and polygraph is next.
U gonna get shafted, jk. Good luck ull do great
@@Griffindeleon004 😹 I appreciate you bro.
@@lil_siamese714 the polygraph is all a mental game bro. None of that shit is real
Was told after taking a polygraph that I was a thief and I illegally worked under the table….I’m not a thief, and I had never held a job before taking that polygraph😂
The statement this guy said abt how cops want to hear how you overcame your background is such bs. Most agencies won't even consider you if you tell them you don't have a squeaky clean history
You mean the “electronic voodoo Ouija board”? Don’t worry about it. I was a cop for ten years and passed the test. Same thing with the voice stress analyzer. Hint….they will always tell you that you were “deceptive” on something. Don’t fall for it.
Can u apply for other agencies if you were disqualified for admitting to something you did?
Depends what you did. Did you admit to using a drug? Or did you commit sexual assault?
Them “test shows you were being deceptive”
Me “tests wrong” 😐
My partner is going to do this very soon, I heard that they also bring in and polygraph their partners and sometimes even family members. Is that true?
no that's very far from the truth lmfao. This isn't a criminal investigation.
Is it a miss one and fail completely or is it a at least 50% type of deal to pass?
i’m wondering the same thing
Usually it's fail 1 and that's it.
When you are all wired up, it's questions are to sense how much reaction you body responds to the question and how you answer. They should talk with you about each question and can talk about certain things to provide more clarity about what is to be expected and able to ask questions. It's a conscious game really, and can be stressful.
Yes, miss one and it's automatic dq anywhere. They sit down with you beforehand and go over any responses you say yes too and want additional details. Once the test starts they expect complete honesty based on what you discussed after you answered your questions on paper. If deception is detected they will give you a couple chances to answer and usually it will end as soon as they don't get a truthful answer or inconclusive. If it is inconclusive, you will have to come back a different time and will be asked the specific inconclusive questions again until truth is detected. One deception is all it takes, even at the department I'm applying for where they literally do urine tests and allow possession of schedule 1 drugs as long as it wasn't in the last three years. No matter how lenient the department is in their need for officers, they will always end you at the first sign of deception
Police would NOT roll up sleeves on a PSA.
what happens if u do fail dose that make u unable to be hired orr?
For that agency, you applied to yes. But you can still do other agencies or that same one at a later time.
I find it crazy that every cop hasn’t done drugs in the past 8 years prior to employment
If they experimented a little and didn't continue using 2 or 3 years prior to applying then they can pass as long as they can explain that it was in fact only experimental use.
@@choccymilk8845 depends marijuana sure. If you admit to doing any hardcore drugs like heroin, meth, crack. You just fucked yourself completely.
@@Dmvgold1995 From what I've heard you can with some places still get hired but it had to be only once and be at least 10 years from the time you put in your application.
I mean I took Tylenol and Advil.....
@@tuneunleashed Damn that sucks guess you gotta look for a new line of work😔😂
ive tried recreational drugs a few times when I went on vacation to see my friends. its definitely not something i do every day or even monthly. id say once a year for the past 4 ish years. and my goal is to apply next year. do I have a chance at applying? is there a way to get around with an honest answer? i rarely drink and i dont have a criminal history.
just doo it. i am. doing my written and physical on satt
just tell the truth man. Here in Pennsylvania the state police had to remove the associates degree requirement because they were failing to get enough applicants. People today aren't racing to become a police officer. They need honest men/women on the force, not people who hide their shortcomings.
Catching you in a lie may end your chance of becoming an officer, but the second you are sworn in, it is highly encouraged from then on for the rest of your career.
So if you fail a polygraph test despite being 100% honest would that still ruin your chance?
if you fail the polygraph, its like failing the physical test, you get knocked out of the process.. some agencies have a wait time of 2 years if you fail the poly, make sure u ask lol
What I’d you’re completely honest about being insane? But you stay calm and pass the polygraph? Do they hold it against you? 👀
What if your naturally nervous?
Then you shouldn't be a cop. Why would someone who is stressed out or naturally nervous, be a good candidate for becoming a police officer?
@@rasputin7633 This is a pretty stubborn answer. Nervousness is a human trait. If you think cops don’t get nervous you’re mistaken it’s a human emotion it happens it’s just about how you can conduct yourself and control yourself but everyone gets nervous.
Rasputin is kinda right on that. U may have to work on being more confident in communicating with other people, if u come across as shy the job won't be fit for you
@@mikejoseph2177 It's a rather logical answer. Iif you had a cop coming to rescue you from an active shooter you would rather have someone who isn't "naturally nervous". But this is where the "Yeah but" replies will start. /thread
@@rasputin7633 that’s what the academy is for bud. It’s to train you for shit you’ll come across as a cop
I can’t even make it pass the oral board. After failing multiple departments I’m done with this bs
Why is that? Were you nervous or??
And this test is why the police department is short staffed. Yes no ty I’m applying for Fire dept. 😊
The constitution of the United States. Honor, courage, commitment. Don't forget that otherwise don't be a police officer.
It’s just a psychological test intimidation trick
The results are always the same guilty those test are very inaccurate
Polygraph test are useful to weed out bad liars or people that can’t keep their mouth shut. If you are good at lying, your in.
That’s literally the most civilian shit anyone could say and I would not expect any less from of course, a civilian in the public.
@@DWCessna4130 Drawing a line in between the police and their community is the most cop thing anyone could say and I would not expect any less from of course, a bootlicker on CZcams.
That's usually not the case, your baseline will account for you being overly nervous or very anxious. That's why they ask you specifically to lie on questions, and ask for your truth baseline. Im sure it has happened to people, but generally it's because they have an overly guilty conscience
Do they ever ask if you have been raped or have raped? Do they ask if you have ever masturbated or killed anyone. Do they ask evil and concerning questions like that.
yes
Great question(s) ! I'm wondering too
Yes they do
What the hells the point of a polygraph?
It's to see if you will snitch on yourself.
To get you to admit to things you otherwise would not. My agency discovered an applicant who had a history of bestiality because of the polygraph. He obviously didn't disclose any of that during the interview or application process.
@@shindrithargriethrat8408 wow that’s crazy. Like the other guy said it’s to see if you will snitch on yourself. The tests itself aren’t accurate, but they put the application in a position where they may disclose information when asked a question.
@@ballplaya96x67 They are accurate-ish, enough to let the examiner know if he needs to ask more questions.
@@shindrithargriethrat8408 bullshit😂😂😂 that is funny asf tho
I am a cop I passed the polygraph and I lied - that’s how garbage these are
If this is true and you didn’t lie here then that gives other people hope haha
@@AlexisRanae I didn’t lie here I lied in the polygraph - if there was really a way to reveal if someone was lying it would revolutionise human interaction - it would be admissible in court and every country on earth would be using it - why would courts not use this system if they could identify if a person was being truthful on not ? anyone can guess and get it right some times - when you hear the term lie detector you never stopped to wonder why courts don’t use this magnificent technology and why no other courts on earth bothers with this
They asked me during my induction if I ever used drugs before - I said no - I smoked weed in college and used xtc - I have been a cop for 21 years now because I passed
@@robertsolimanm7031 I have mine in 2 weeks any tips for me please
@@Sk8RsFoRLiF3 make a rapport with the palaeographer
Imagine you’re honest your entire life and fail a polygraph test 😂😂😂
It’s possible lol
Seeing as the polygraph doesn’t detect lies, it’s not hard to imagine.
Polygraphs are full of bs
Fun Fact: Every BAD Police officer PASSED the Ploygraph
So basically what i've learned is, don't lie or you're fucked if you're aren't consistent with your answers or your lie is proven.
A bunch of wires determining people's fate. 🙄 Laughable.
Not how it works. It's used to elicit confessions, they don't actually rely on the machine to make a final determination.
Just stick to your answers. Period. That's it.
U have to lie it is what it is. The polygrapher is not ur friend.
polygraphs have no right to exist
It disappoints me that you did not include the truth in what the polygraph is.
Because they will ask you if you ever looked up anything on how to beat a polygraph test and if you admit to it, you will be automatically denied.
How long does it take to get results?
They have the “results” when finish. The results are meaningless unless you subscribe to the Polygraph Industry standards and pseudo science. Please read my comments next to yours for more information. By the way, the basic polygraph machine in use for the past 100 years was created by W. Marston, who also created the Wonder Woman character and her “lasso of truth.” Starting to see a twisted parallel? Believe me, since I have actually experienced being “tested” and by two types of polygraph test, one the traditional sitting with wires and breathing monitors and the other more modern scam version called “Eye Detect” where a camera monitors your pupils for dilation. I was anxious to settle a trust issue and was told by my examiner, that by taking the two, it increases the accuracy to 99% . Well, I can testify today, he said I “failed miserably” and as a result of his comments partially, I am now in a bitter divorce unfortunately. He was a Snake Oil salesman as I am aware of now. Please at least watch the 60 Minutes episode I mentioned called “Truth and Consequences” with Diane Sawyer. I promise that will open your eyes. I only wish I had seen that before subjecting myself to the SCAM artist I hired .
@@marck8899 What does that have to do with his original question lmao
@@replay_rewind I’m merely referring to the Polygraph as far as results go. People fear the device. My intent is to let them in on the secret that they are only a scam prop.
will i fail if i smoked weed back in early hs
Nope. Just be honest.
@@matthewcooper3456 I have my polygraph on Wednesday and I don’t have anything in my background but damn have I hit a romantic partner and a car before 🥺🤣🤣 I hope this doesn’t ruin me!
@@matthewcooper3456 what if it was back at the age of 14? I did lsd
@@CHRIS-gr9tl usually the last 1-3 year based on the states , otherwise you will be fine
@@ericasalas759 How’d it go ?
I can only see how many actually qualified good applicants never made into law enforcement because of this backwards thinking recruitment process not just the polygraph but so many other steps its really ridiculous
does the past drug use disqualify me?
Yeah, so just chill the fuck out
Not necessarily. They are more concerned whether you are lying about your drug history. Thats said, being honest about it doesn't mean you get a pass. They account for the type of drug, how many times you've used it, how you obtained it, how old you were when you first and last used it, and any DUIs. At least this is from my experience in the process
I have seen CP in like discords that have gotten raided where they spam cp and gore but like i’ve never searched it up or intentionally viewed it and I feel like that will get me disqualified lol
You’re fine. The answer to the question about CP is no, and you shouldn’t feel guilty about it if you weren’t intentionally viewing it. Think about all the times officers have to look at pictures of underage girls while doing investigations on the job, it isn’t something they relish doing (at least I don’t think), but they have to do in order to investigate crimes related to it.
So if you aren’t searching it up intentionally just answer no and don’t sweat it
@@Epic-Gamer50 thanks!
how did it go bro?
worthless test.. everyone is stressed no matter the question.
Is this fake?
I stole a candy bar when i was 6 years old. Will that stop me from becoming cop?
Not at all, they just want you to tell the truth.
I can’t be a cop because I have beef with my neighbors
Who doesn't beef with their neighbors from time to time?
@@2KCamaroZ28SS not a lot. I have a neighbor who applied to be a cop and someone from the police department went and asked questions to everyone on the block. I don’t know anybody but I do got beef with some bioch in fact everyone does.
Be ok with looking the other way, never report a bad officer and do whatever you want... you are hired
I back the blue