Ebike Q&A: One Year and 4,000 Miles With an Electric Bike!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- This video is an interview between Court and Greg who has owned an electric bike for over one year and put over 4,000 miles on it by commuting and taking fun rides around Loveland Colorado.
Greg Rye, the owner and lead chiropractor at Rye Chiropractic in Loveland Colorado got his first electric bike in mid 2014. After one year and 4,000 miles (including daily commutes and trail riding) he shares his experiences about what it’s like to own and ebike. We talk about the maintenance required, the comfort of riding and everything in between. His bike is a Haibike FS 27.5” with a Bosch Centerdrive motor.
Upgrades to the stock Haibike FSRX include Ergon ergonomic grips with bar ends, Wellgo Magnesium pedals, Cygolite USB headlight and backlight, Topeak quick release rack and slide-on bag. Greg and I talk about what it's like to own the electric bike, what it's like to commute with an ebike and we do a Q&A about it together.
I've been watching too many e-bike videos on CZcams, including a lot of your reviews, but I particularly enjoyed this video with real life perspectives and the experiences gained commuting with an e-bike for a year. Thanks to Greg and Court for this video. I'm starting to build the lithium battery pack for my 1500W Libertymobile stealth e-bike conversion.
This was a fantastic little chat, very interesting to hear how Greg is commuting and what gear he's using. And Greg seems like a really nice and friendly guy. I also love how's he's more or less a regular guy but he's using an e-bike to commute instead of car because it's fun and healthy and pretty cheap. Great stuff, more videos like this!
I live the review videos you post, but this video is awesome! I think you should do more videos about living with an ebike.
+Camilo Pineda (Fun2Dad) Thanks Camilo! I've got some ideas for more videos like this... Do you have some creative ideas or suggestions to add? What would you like to see?
I would like to see more interviews with people who actually use their ebike. In all the different settings. Commuters, trail riders, fun riders etc. You could have them talk about their bike- how they chose it. I think so many people are on the fence because they don't really know if it would work for them. I had a chance to test drive a haibike for a day and was smitten.
+Camilo Pineda (Fun2Dad) Got it, I'm hoping to do more content like this... the key is finding people who are about to purchase bikes and who are willing to speak on camera. I have a few people in mind, just takes some time to get it going and let them ride for long enough to have a perspective.
+ElectricBikeReview.com not to mention folks with disabilities and older folks . I got a kit for my Moms trike after Dad's pooh-poohing that "folks don't get exercise on those" . I find that lots of people still feel that way until they commute on one
+ElectricBikeReview.com how's it going man I love your videos I was wondering if you had a recommendation for a very inexpensive but fun to ride but that'll get me about 20 miles at 20 miles per hour at a very good price because I'm disabled and on a fixed income. very interested in the super 73 and its Kickstarter prices. I don't know if I could have forward it's full price but have you reviewed it yet or are you going to
7 years later and I'm still commuting on the same bike! 2016 Haibike Xduro. Battery at 92% of it's original capacity. Still get 50 miles in Eco. Fenders, etc :)
Youre uncle is such a nice person, and its a pleasure listening to you guys talk about ebikes. You can sense the connection between the two of you. Another very nice video. Thankyou for this.
I think that was the best "Plug" on a $5000 bike I've ever seen. Great review on not just that particular bike but how accommodating Greg was with his opinions and experiences. I'm sold!
Respect to your uncle for giving up his time!
I have to love the obvious genuine pleasure that an obviously genuine man gets from his ebike.
I can see why you love him!
That is great your Uncle took this bike and went all in. Love to see it.
Thanks Steven! He loves it and that makes me happy :D
Thank you for great e-bike reviews. I'm now a big fan of your channel. Have fun at your next video. Greetings from Berlin.^^
+Elya Cornovier Awesome! I lover Germany, was so inspired when I visited a few years back, so much wind power and recycling everywhere... I think your country has been a great leader in the world by making smart choices and being a good example. I'm doing my best to add more reviews for next year and am redesigning the website right now electricbikereview.com/ it should launch in December :D
+ElectricBikeReview.com You simply do very sympathetic videos and that makes your channel so special. And your site electricbikereview.com is just awesome. Thank you.
This is the best real world review I've seen so far. Good job. This helps a lot.
Thanks mate. i bought the Bosch first gen motor it did over 10,000ks. 70km 4 times a week and never missed a beat. Then one day just about to start my journey to work grinding and locking up it died.. now going thru the warranty process, will post how that turns out.. i really hope these electric bicycle are not a ticking time bomb.
Hope you got it sorted out. I had 2 Focus Impulse II mid-drive motors die on me, in well under 4K total miles. After seeing the many others with the same problem I'm a bit worried about the dependability of mid-drives for those who ride great distances. I've now had my Stromer ST2 for 5 months and just passed 4k miles with no issues (hub drive motor), though much more higher MSRP.
I also commute year round in CO. I rode my Felt NINEe (hard tail, Bosch drive) over 15k miles last year. Great support from Felt! Happy to share my experiences.
Wow! At 262 working days in a year, that must mean you have a ~60 mile daily commute that you never miss? On top of that, being in CO, I'm guessing there's a good amount of hills. Are you on the original motor? Do you have a profile on one of the tracking sites (like Strava) to see the data? Very impressive! I made a split video comparing my ebike to driving in a rush hour commute here in Austin, it'd be really cool to see your commute compared in the same way. I love seeing others with long commutes, since so many look at me like I'm nuts lol.
I loved your rush hour split screen! Really well done, and totally nails the reasons for biking instead of driving. My commute is actually 70mi round trip, with some missed days and occasional multi-mode (light-rail can take me half way, but is a PITA). My route is almost all multi-use paths, with only about 15mi on roads (residential and business park), so quite safe from drivers. Also, since those paths are next to rivers, it is relatively flat. I've recorded the track with google My Tracks, and more recently a Garmin Virb, which is my first foray into video with good data to overlay. The Virb makes overlaying the GPS data on video quite easy, but since I work full-time, spend about 20 hours/week commuting, and have been finishing my basement in my "free time", I haven't had much time left for video work. Suffice it to say, I'm not as savvy at video production as you, and have mostly made short clips of occasional interesting happenings along the way, but I do have a bit of data, so I'll dig up some route specifics to share.
I'm also really intrigued by the Stromer ST2, as it seems to be a highly regarded hub motor commuter bike. I'd love to learn about your experiences with range, maintenance, etc. I typically run the Felt Bosch bike on Eco (lowest assist) in order to achieve the range I need for the commute, which has the benefit of minimizing drive train wear and tear. Still I replace a lot of chains and disc brake pads. I'm also on an upgraded motor, which is the speed pedelec good for assist to 28mph, and on Eco makes averaging 20mph viable with heavy panniers, lights, fenders, etc. I ride year round in all weather, and have some good high mileage experience with the 2nd gen Bosch drives. BTW, it's good to be bit nuts!
Thanks! Good stuff! With the Virb software and a
Good interview with regular ebike rider and it was great you putting up figures on TCO. Seeing your Uncle's fit-out has given me ideas of what to put on my new bike as well. Keep up the great work.
+riceburner68 Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it, thanks :D
Really like what you do with your awesome ebike reviews. Its also lovely to see how happy people are with their ebikes, enabling them to be more active, even if they might not be without these ebikes. Its a real catalyst that enables people and makes them happy, as we can see in this video. Thanks.
Nice post and very informative. One point: What's cool about a bicycle is that you are doing a lot of stops and starts in a town situation. So the mpg on a car is not 30 mpg, but probably more like 20 mpg. You might want to point out that metric. 'Smart guy and important experience. Thanks for sharing.
dude I gotta give it to you, I never comment on CZcams or even bother, but you do some quality reviews, you have good vocabulary and you are truly passionate about ebikes. I so get the feeling as I sold my car and bought an electric bicycle, changed my life, I feel so much more in contact with nature and people instead of being stuck in a metal and glass box everyday. no more petrol, registration, speed and park tickets or mechanic
it's like being on holidays all the time haha what a legend
I love watching this video. You get tons of information and I just enjoy the conversation between them! Keep it up guys!! Lets make 2021 a great year!!
Aaron
I've done about 1500km so far and I'm just like him, enjoying everything about it. I'm getting gradually in better shape and it's still enjoyable and fun. I plan on riding as much I can until it gets too cold and snowy.
+Kobbetop Nice! I was surprised when my Uncle said he likes to ride in the snow. I used to do this as a kid and it can be really fun... have you tried it? In any case, glad you're enjoying the bike :D
ElectricBikeReview.com I'm in Finland and yes I have ridden in the snow but as a kid too! I bought this e-bike just in June, so I will see how it performs. BTW, my e-bike is a rare one for you (not sold in US) it's made in Finland by Helkama, TE28 is the model, Panasonic mid drive. I have a few riding videos on my channel and I will do a full on snow/winter one in the near future! Your channel is awesome, the variety is unbelivable Lol.
Recently invested in an eBike in order to get about, however, in Inverness Scotland there is not the infrastructure in place to encourage safe cycling. Compared to cycling in Holland, Inverness planners are so reluctant addressing the issue of a greener healthier/outlook to the future.
Random thought, it would be very cool if you started up an audio podcast talking about electric transportation general topics and what not, it might be a cool idea and I'd definitely listen.
Keep up the great work!
I would most definitely listen also
This is such a great video, so informative and well communicated! Thank you both, I've decided to get one on the basis of this video. I've ordered a Cube Acid 400, it's more for the daily commute and weekend leisure rides. So I think thats the best price range for me. Cheers guys. 👍🏼😀
Its good to hear about a bicycle with the Bosch mid-drive system going 4,000 miles. Another guy on CZcams said his Bafang 500 watt mid-drive motor went 2,000 miles before it developed a serious problem. In the early 20th century motorcycle manufacturers would compete in endurance runs. This was when motorcycles still had pedals and leather belt drives, and you could clearly see the close relationship motorcycles have with bicycles. Anyway, I wish the ebike community would hold endurance runs so we can clearly see what works and what doesn't. Mid drive systems causing drive chains to fail in less than 1,000 miles is a deal breaker in my opinion, at least for commuting. Maybe a geared rear hub motor is the better solution, but who knows how long the plastic internal gears will last. We need some endurance runs.
Bafang and Bosch are not even comparable lol. Bosch is a top of the line system loaded with high tech sensors, and they've been around a long time. Any dealer will tell you that they almost never see a customer with a Bosch problem, and it's actually true. Bafang is cheap for a reason, and give no warranty for a reason.
Great video. I've been watching your vids for a couple of years now and this is one of the best. I love the interview format. Also, I can relate to the Kymco. I had one for ten years and haven't been on it since my pedalec. The only way to travel. Keep up the great work.
So open and friendly discussion and ‘review’. Pass our greetings to your uncle!
Another great review. Always informative and always entertaining. Very interesting to see how useful and economical these bikes have proven to be, even after the gloss has worn off.
great vid *** u always kno how to focus the cam on the right objects and sights ~ ur one of my favorite educational sources on e-biking ...
I agree! I also have a car but ride my electric bike to work it's just so much fun I got to ride so close to the lake, the park and everything else the car is not allowed to do so.
You can't leave it inside the restaurant somewhere?
this is a great video. one of your best I think. great job court. well done. :)
+MARK WALLACE Thanks Mark, I've been exploring different content ideas but feel that the standard reviews (en mass) help to guide users towards the best possible bike for their needs/budget. It's fun to do variety like this :)
Your uncle seems like one of the loveliest uncles in the world. Top Family 👌🇺🇸👍🏼
Awesome year-end results and review!
+Bruin Doc Glad you enjoyed it! I had fun talking with my Uncle and really wanted the "truth" about owning an ebike and using it so regularly. He still loves the thing and rides daily, makes me happy :)
Ha! I grew up in Loveland too (live in SLC now). I recognize that clinic well. Watch MANY of your videos - great stuff. Just bought a Rad Wagon for my wife and I to haul the kids around. Love it!
Nice video. My E-bike conversion was on a full suspension Mongoose mountain bike. To avoid the problems of the messing up the derailier or chain I went to a 48v 1000w hub mounted system. The trade off is the weigh, hub motors are heavy. My E-bike has panners and was built for street uses so I had to swap out the knobby for large road tires. As I'm involved in testing new technology in the RC industry using Lipos using a mix of 4 to 7 cell packs in series for 12 cells and then wiring then in parallel. I also use these parks for flying model planes and drones. Depending on the distance I carry anywhere from 15AH to 25AH worth of batteries on board. Having some high power charges to takes about an hour to charge 8 6 cell 5000 mah batteries. I have ridden over 10K miles and in that time the steel frame of the bike has held up but the parts like the pedals, shifters, cables, spokes, etc. have given out, granted I bought the bike new about 7 years ago for less than $100. As I had an old mountain that was busted, I had a supply of parts. I carry not only a spare air pump but also an inner tube and tools.
great video,Ive always loved bikes but I cant wait for my ebike to arrive,one day while riding,I met a guy who told me his bike saved his life and that he was considering suicide,I thought his story was just amazing,I found a totally new respect for bikes and good people.
Could you please make the list of add on accessories that are used on the bike on this review so it will give us ideas of what we might need for commuting. Links to Amazon or any online shop would be greatly appreciated to make us easier to get them.
And I really agree with others that this is one of your best reviews so far by showing us what it's like to integrate an e-bike into your daily life.
How about another interview about experiences of cargo e-bike incorporated in daily lives such as hauling kiddos to school or getting your groceries or some other thing. I think it would be a cool review to watch.
Kudos to you for this review, great job!
your uncle seems like a really nice guy 😀
you ask all the right questions.
Thanks Nick! I do my best, this was a fun interview because my Uncle is a nice honest guy and he has been using the bike nonstop! We had a great time and it's nice to share :D
ElectricBikeReview.com
Ive covered 6000 miles on my active line plus, recently had it opened by my mechanic, he was impressed how good it looked inside and all the grease was in place.
that piece was very insightful. your unc did a great job explaining everything
Nice video! 4000 miles is dedication, I live just south of Denver and also enjoy taking my home built ebike out for a nice cruz to work or just enjoying the ride.
I own a maybe two year newer version, it’s a really great mountain bike, living in Colorado also increases the opportunities to ride 🤔🤩
Ft. Collins and Loveland are peeeeefect for e-bikes wish I still lived out there!
Go uncle Gregg!
More long term interviews.
Just found your videos. I like this one. Great conversation on how the bike has worked for your relative. Thanks.
I love this video, I'm new to ebikes but I do ride a motorscooter. I'm looking at my ebike as my weekend bike first, then part time commuter. I enjoy these profiles of people that ebike.
great interview, thanks for sharing. The video is really hi-res too.👍
The essence of e bike ownership and enjoyment
Thank you for sharing this!
Awesome review. Great information from your uncle. Thx.
+Juan Noval Glad you liked it Juan! It was fun to hear from him for me too... I was impressed with how well the bike held up aside from some of the drivetrain stuff and flats. He says the battery offers the same range it did when he got it which is amazing after so much riding :)
what a nice chap... good interview!
they are called Tuffy's. That's the rubber linings you put inside your tires to help prevent flats....I used to have them in my BMX bike, because I did a lot of street riding with it. I tell you what, they sure do work!
Very good video. E-bikes are perfect for commuting purposes.
I have a Merida E-Spresso 410 with Bosch Performance Line and put on almost 16.000 km ( 10.000 miles ) on it within 2 years.
The route to work is 17 miles single, so 34 miles on daily basis. Completely flat route through the countryside here in the Netherlands. Wishing Court lots of safe and pleasant kilometers / miles :)
And to Greg: Your site is really nice, keep up the good work!
You've got me thinking quite often about the Specialized Turbo S... such a nice looking and apparently very well performing bike.
Hi new sub here :-) I LOVE your reviews & interviews. I almost give up on bike riding forever, until I saw your review of Electra e-bike 2016. Well, I got mine (Electra go! e-bike) on May 10 and I am SO IN LOVE with it :-) I still ride to work with my car but I am using my bike in city and do not take my car or pubic bus any more :-) Thanks again for useful channel and reviews :-) keep up the good work.
GO :-)
2 half years i have had my giant twist ebike and not one problem its pretty bullet proof .
your uncle is so adorable I love his accent
He must be gay,so adorable. I mean it in a good way.
If the general(non-cycling) public could experience the ease with which these ebikes are to ride there would be a lot more people on them.
Slime tubes are smart!
I got a SLIME in my wheel as well.
Wee bit more than a basic tube but if you've ever seen them in a demo, you'd pay for the upgrade.
Tires should be center ridge not knobby ones. He's a street rider, no need for aggressive tread.
The "chain checker" (measures the stretch of the chain) is a great idea for a high miler like him. If you stretch a chain and replace it on time, the freewheel is fine.
If you go past a point in the chain stretch (.75 i think it is) then you shark-tooth the freewheel gears and the new chain will skip jump on them. Then it's a freewheel replacement + chain bec you tried to skimp out on chain longevity...DONT DO THAT
At the end of the interview when you do your outro, you could have just also said 'hear all that traffic noise in the background', e-bikes could contribute to halving that, or even possibly irradiating it one day!
Very informative. It's all in the details.
Have a Haibike All Mountain RX 2015, Had it since October 2015. Done 900 miles mostly off road trails. The bike off road is menatl and the gains are huge in the boggy rough stuff. On the road there is very little gains to be had as it's limited to 15MPH the electric just offsets the weight of the bike and lets me keep the off road tyres on. In fact I'm still quicker on the road on my Mondraker Foxy RR on ralphs
Massive fun bike on the trails all day, I can do a full lap of Gisburn forrest, and then 7-8 hope runs back up cardio hill, showboating riding up cardio hill at 15mph, leaving the most hardcore fittest guys in my wake.
One of the supprising gains is down hill, with the extra weight it flys down hill and feels much more stable on the loose stuff, the power assist it lets you run the most grippy tyres at the lowests pressures, giving a super plush feel and grip in the corners, gives massive confidence down hill.
On the road, on a Mary/Damp tyres, will get me around 57 miles. The range can be hugly improved on slicker tyres. Battery is still okay with no signs of range drop.
Ty
Dave
Good interview.... Well done!
Court, this is great - real world testing over time really helps in making a buying decision. I wonder how this Haibike FSRX compares against your older Easy Motion Jumper? Is that white e-motion bike still working?
+ForbinColossus Great question, I'd love to do a comparison but sold that bike long ago. I travel so much for reviews that my time with any particular model us usually under a week or two. My hope is that individual owners will self-report in comments or on the EBR forums: electricbikereview.com/community/
great review.... more recumbent electric bike and trike reviews would be nice
+forest greenwald I'll keep an eye out Forest, thanks for the request!
Any updates in 2021? Is the bike still alive and running? ☺️ Hope to hear long term review with ebikes.
This was a great video!
I am living in germany/munich. Germans are known for being mtb crazy and bike shops offer a lot of e-bikes (especially haibike). I am biking since many years in the mountains and it's recognizable that more and more older people enjoy the mountains by e-mtb. Unfortunately in the city just a few old people use city e-bikes. Law isn't very attractive for riding s-pedelecs in germany. That's why a lot of young people still prefer going by car for short trips through city.
I suspect this interview would be much more silent (background noise) if e-bikes would be more common in Colorado ;-)
+Stephan H. Great point Stephan! Yeah, we just shot this off the cuff and Greg had to stay near his office to help customers (in case someone came by). I'd love to see Germany adopt more supportive laws for ebikes including higher speed. We are guaranteed to suffer from the exhaust of cars but there is only a chance of suffering from the collision of electric bikes and the more infrastructure we put in place to support them, the less dangerous it becomes :)
great interview. Thanks
AH! I'm from Loveland, Ohio which is a tiny town founded by the same family!
Many people don't put miles on their motorcycles that fast. I'm sold. lol
WHat a nice guy!! Great interview.
wow great video, hitting a lot of important topics, thank you so much for posting htis
At 11:20, “less beating up on yourself”. Yeah, that is where I am at!
Very thorough, thank you!
4,000 bike miles is like 30,000 car miles guys!
Hey, will you test COSWHEEL A - ONE Electric Bike anytime soon pls? I'd really appreacite your thoughts on this. Thanks for your awesome job so far!!
I want a Emtb...it is fun to ride bike to work n back... with the electric boost it be awesome.. get to see the odd spots on the way...
Cool dude and cool bike.
Will you be doing a review on the 2015 big cat fat cat x e bike?
+crystal pacheco Hopefully, I basically travel around and try to review everything I come across. I've reviewed a few Big Cat electric bikes in the past: electricbikereview.com/category/big-cat/
That night would be soooo much fun up in Estes!
What a cool dude. Thanks
I prefer electric skateboards and unicycles, as they don't squish me man parts, but more power to you guys man, awesome!
It was very informative !
OK. Simple Question - Can you drive bike when battery is empty or removed?
Maybe in future, when you'll do test drive, you can show how it feels?
Do you need to pedal very fast because of small front chain ring?
+JeMasLT Great questions, yes! You can definitely ride with an empty battery or take it off and use as a mountain bike (it will be ~8 lbs heavier than a normal non-ebike because the motor is permanently attached on this bike). Pedaling is not much different in terms of cadence because the Bosch motor system has internal gearing that makes the smaller sprocket spin about twice as fast... and the sprocket is about twice as small so it feels normal :)
+ElectricBikeReview.com Thank you very much. I'm thinking to buy Cube town electric bicycle with bosh motor. Also is it true, that best time to buy bicycle in winter because of discounts? Thank you again and greetings from Lithuania ;) Cheers
+JeMasLT I've heard that some shops do offer "end of season" type discounts on models that haven't sold. You can save some money this way but often the models and sizes are limited. The Cube ebikes are very cool, hope you find one that works out great :)
wonderful video!!!!
We're can I buy this bike and how much
40$ for a chain? Wtf that must be some top tier chain.
Also a good frame will last you lifetime. I have a full suspension bike for 17 years now and frame is like it was when I got it. As long as you don't do extreme stuff ;)
Depends on what type of material the frame is made of. And the type of riding you do.
iv done over 20,000 miles in 2 years on my custom 1000 watt build, 25-30mph, I do around 30mph a day
+MisterMacrae the first bike was a cheap argos bike, which just rusted away with all the salt we have here in scotland, replaced it with a dual shock jump frame i got for 40 quid, its only a 19 inch frame, but a wee pocket rocket, doing well over 30mph, iv changed from heavy sla batteries, of which iv had 3 sets, to a lithium one, at 20 amp hours, gives me around 10-12 miles at over 25mph, I guess with the 2 bikes, over the last 2 years, iv spent around £1,200, thats including the 1000 watt front hub kit, and parts like new wheels, brake pads, and tubes and tyres, the replacement sla were 80 quid each and the 20 amp hour lithium was 250, sla batteries are a very false economy, even the gel batteries wont last long, at only around 3 to 4 months, it may be a quick fix for some, but the weight and cost just dont add up, keep to lithium, that mistake cost me around £240 for the 3 sets, total cost per mile for an ebike works out at around 12-16p per mile, of course, the longer you own the bike, the cheaper it gets, my recharge costs are silly, bike can do around 25-30 mile per day for around 12 pence with 2 recharges, even if I double up and get two sets the cost per mile just for power and batteries works at at a measly 0.6p per mile, for 25mph and 25 mile range a day, the carbon saving is also impressive, my power is 100% wind, so I have saved around 12 Tons of Co2, as the average car produces around 6 tons a year.
I found this because I bought a Haibike Nduro RX today 👌
Excellent info!
According to Bosch these batteries will do 40,000 kms.That’s a lot of miles.
I would kindly suggest microphones for your guests = ) mostly because of the noticeable change in volume hehe
How does the battery and motor preform in the cold weather?
Do you need to cover/wrap the battery?
+dznrboy Batteries tend to lose capacity in cold weather, I've heard that in some extreme cases the pack will only offer ~60% of the range it would in neutral or warmer temperatures. You do not need to wrap the battery but most ebikes have detachable packs which you can charge and store inside. Not only will this help you achieve higher range when you clip it onto the bike for your ride, it will also help to extend the life of the cells so your pack will hold capacity for more cycles and last for more years at a higher capacity :)
I wish some of the non-bike shops here in Orange County California would work on ebikes but many of them don't. I have taken my Easy Motion City in for a simple flat repair or tire change and they won't touch it. A common excuse is that their insurance plan does not cover them if they are working on an ebike. I don't get it.
Second time I watched. Yer uncle is so cool and credible and communicative ..Bosch is a little noisy.
Im not a smart guy but this is all i know about this new ebikes. Well first of all our environment is not like its used to be, Population is growing bigger so are the cities . And friends live farther and job is getting far and far from our home. So this new ebikes is the best way of transportation and at the same time will keep us healthier. And its up to us if you want some real work out then dont use the battery but with this for my opinion is way fun for we can go see more farther in nature up the mountains when before we end our trail for reserving our energy on getting back home. And lastly its quiet and no pollution, and i love that. We can breathe more fresh air and we can only hear nature or Mother Earth talking to us. So its the future but vintage lifestyle. Peace to All Mankind..
Cool vid!
Heck I did 13,000 miles on my Radmini from Dec 4 2018 to Dec 4 2019. Wiping odometer twice and then some.
Holy crap how
Very helpful, thanks
I want one . how much?