How Humans Measure Beauty?
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Itâs actually both objective and subjective. Clearly emotional attachment influences our perception of a person. Just ask anyone whoâs ever been in love. You will go to great lengths to ignore any physical flaw and focus on all the attractive characteristics of that person.
If you fall out of love later you might be shocked wondering âI donât know what I saw in him/herâ.
Emotional attachment is separate from beauty. Thats just falling out of the honey moon phase. When you have the most tolerance for any character or physical flaws your partner may have. That tolerance will fade and will acknowledge such flaws.
Very true. Though, beauty is mostly objective with a hint of subjectivity
That is why if you have an ex, you wonder why you were with him he wasnt attractive at all. You dont find him attractive anymore. I agree with ypur comment
@@iaf4454 Yeah. Most girls have a story like that.
But you would know though, right? You just wouldnât be looking at it through the lens of love anymore, and thus your perception of them has changed.
You definitely can go from ugly to beautiful Iâve seen couple of examples. Haircut + Skincare + Getting Lean can literally turn you in a different human
even just growing up helped me a ton
Very true
Donât forget makeup that stuff is a life saver lol. My eyebrows fell out years ago due to a reaction to a product, and I have hereditary dark circles around my eyes. That combo makes me look legit sick. A little concealer and eyebrow pencil? Bam: from like a 3 to an apparent 7/8 lol
â@@happystar7777ill be the judge of that
âŠcan confirm.
I was never actually ugly, just homely-looking as hell. đ
But now that Iâve been mewing, and gyming (5 days a week) I garner *a lot* of positive attention from men. â€ïž
The difference between those top and bottom pictures of the girl are so subtle yet so impactful. That's insane. The obvious difference is that her eyes are larger and positively tilted on the top, making the eye area appropriately portioned for her face. It seems there are other minor differences like the nose being a tad bit skinnier, the lower lip slightly fuller, and the eyebrows slightly thicker on the top. But I feel 90% of the difference can be attributed to the disparity between the eyes. It affects all of the proportions of her facial profile and overall harmony. Literally the difference between a 6 and an 8.5. It's just shocking to me.
The lower girl is a 4 and the upper girl is a 6 in Russia
@@LucielStarz123ok
Her face/midface is also longer in bottom pic
Her forehead is slightly bigger on the bottom
@@LucielStarz123 the upper girl is no way a 6 even in russia.
wow you made a great point with those last two pictures, its all in little details, I can barely tell whats the difference in pictures but she looks obviously better in above picture
Human brain have evolved for hundreds of thousands of years to seek the best genes to reproduce with. It is very hardwired to detect subtle facial nuances of objective booty.
In the above picture, the women had a positive canthal tilt and a more compact nose. Negative canthal tilts are not sexy as she has in the below picture. But her facial harmony is still pretty good, she's still attractive.
Changes: little bit in forehead+ nose + chin + tilit of eyes + small eyes
In the above picture her eyes are bigger and positive tilted thatâs the difference
â@@SmashBrosBrawl We love an objective booty
Weirdly i think she looks better in the below picture, more human and less edited, just like more natural. I definitely think beauty can be pretty subjective to a point
I think beauty is at least somewhat subjective cause my friends and I (straight women) sometimes discuss which actresses we think are beautiful and which not so much and it's crazy how much we disagree.
ikr!! me with actors
The tribes that flattened skulls, cut into their facial skin to make marks, and elongated their necks were also doing so because they were seeking âbeauty.â Beauty is most definitely subjective. Those many âvariations of beautyâ are not accepted as âpleasing to the eyeâ to everyone. Showing modern models, who meet modern standards of attractiveness, does not give you an accurate understanding of the many variations of beauty that have been considered subjectively acceptable by different people at different points in time.
I wonder if the issue is that it is in his best interest to say that beauty is objective and can be easily attained in order to promote his product.
Ppl like u r soooo annoying
Yep. And people here trynna claim this is a science channel.
They didn't all do it for beauty.
I'm african and in Nigeria we have lots of different tribes, hundreds of years ago people marked their faces to tell their tribes apart when going on trades and travelling.
They also did it for spiritual proposes and as part of traditional medicine. A lot of times also to preserve cultural identity.
I've never met anyone who did it cus they thought it beautiful. Although people may have liked it back in the day, as it was more commonly done, leading back to the averageness theory.
Marked faces were more average back then, but now they're rare.
Beauty isnât subjective, attraction is subjective but beauty is objective. Problem being that we confuse beauty with attraction
Exactly! I have always been saying this. People tend to lump them together.
what's the difference?
Thatâs a really good point
Your comment is objectively stupid. How beautiful someone is, is how pleasing someone and their features are, which is based on how they adhere to your personal taste. There cannot be an objective standard for beauty because people are vastly different and have different preferences for what they find aesthetically pleasing.
Idk, I find people beautiful that others wouldn't, but I can recognize what people typically think of as beautiful
I get told I have doll eyes still and I am a 31 year old man but Iâll take it đ rather be Angel faced than look like a burglar
I think my fitness trainer from Colombia has the same kinda eyes.
Objective and subjective. There are some people that others fancy, that I just canât wrap my head around. Sometimes you just donât see what theyâre looking at.
Exactly. I simply can't agree with this guy coz I find some people hot and don't with others that Quoves says is "objectively" hot.
People need to remember the difference from beauty and attractiveness⊠beauty is example as having proportional features versus attractiveness having the right ratios of beauty and a good personality.
when you are very attractive your personality and confidence develops BUT not only that your worst character traits are seen as positive by others!! people used to call me "weird "when i was very young but when i became an attractive teenager and beyond all of a sudden i am @quirky@ or @unique@!! peoples' perceptions about you completely change!! highly unfair BUT biologically speaking out brains perceive beautiful as "good" and bad qualities magically can turn into positive ones!!
What equates as proportional???
@@happilyevernever4289 like having a good face shape with proportional features. Proportions is just another way of saying that your nose, lips, ect., fit your face shape.
Beauty is both subjective and "universal" in the way that morality (or any other value judgment) is
I was thinking the exactly the same thing, both are also influenced by cultural factors too
No? Morality is manmade beliefs, attraction is biological.
You are capping so hard saying it's subjective, just cause school and media though you so
@@patrickbateman260 it's subjective because it's personal genius, like preferring coffee with cream or sugar or without that's partly biological too but still ultimately personal affected by many subjective variables
"capping so hard because school and media taught you so" the fuck is that, it seems you're the one working off some media narrative, and maybe go back to school to learn how to spell
The last picture shows that beauty is made in millimeters. Plastic surgeries exist to alter pretty much all of the bottom pictures face to match the upper picture. These are the types of subtle surgeries actors get. An actress could look like the bottom pictures, get the procedures to look like the upper picture over the course of a few years, and no one would notice.
Thatâs interesting, I feel like thatâs what happened to Ariana grande for example
I mean Bella hadid probably did that, yea itâs super subtle man
I agree. I am 25 and deemed attractive, i can appreciate a good looking man my age but i prefer someone much older. Silver hair, good teeth, eyes, nice hands and the sense of style are the first things i look for
I don't see how the purpose of this channel is anything other than to make people feel bad about their looks.
For anyone reading this, especially if you're feeling bad, beauty does not define your worth as a person. Despite what our beauty-obsessed culture ingrains into us, you are deserving of love and respect regardless of your physical attributes. Being attractive is not your ticket to claim a place in society. The more we buy into this beauty obsession the worse it gets, and even "objectively" beautiful people don't feel beautiful because of the messaging pushed at them. People don't talk nearly enough about the insane amount of work it takes to keep up with beauty standards, especially if you're a woman. What this channel fails to recognize is that beauty standards aren't all that objective, they've shifted dramatically throughout all points of history. There is probably a point in history where any single one of us met the beauty standards of the time.
Rather than ask yourself, "How do I become more beautiful", try asking "Why do I feel so much pressure to be beautiful? Do these sources of pressure really want the best for me?"
I feel good actually
His channel is scientific so its meant to make u feel good
â@@Triplekenjussy lol scientific. So you're saying this is a science channel?
@@happilyevernever4289 yep he uses articles from reputable sites and studies. Im not gonna listen to rando in a yt comments just cuz hes not making feel goid contentd
Knowing the truth about yourself is harsh but it's definitely helpful.
90% objective, 10% subjective
A sunrise is another one's sunset
yes BUT everybody notices a beautiful face when they see it!!
â@@angelategos7217 everyone has a distinct definition and preference for beauty.
The Beauty Dictatorship is the cruelest thing, since our looks are out of our control... Being beautiful just gives you a totally unfair advantage in Love, Life, Work and everything in general. đ
Also health because beauty is just comprised of a conglomeration of positive health markers. No one wants to associate with your inferior genesđ„Č
If you start to think like this you are going to be suffering all your life. Physics are import, but not to feel that you are less than the others.
â@@allenairamveraus6820you are less on the beauty lens
@@allenairamveraus6820 I'm not suffering myself per se, since I'm not usually considered unattractive, working as a model and all... But I cannot deny this very UNFAIR unconscious reality inside all of us that we tend to associate beautiful people with better qualities on our love life and even on our social circle. It disgusts me đđ€ąđ„đ€Šââïž
oh TOTALLY. lives are lived very differently regarding if you are beautiful or not. BUT we must not forget the disadvantages either! beauty is a gift but a curse too and this has been proven time and time again.
Am I the only person who thinks the girl is easier to look at unedited? Not ârooting for the underdogâ because I identify with that.. I mean really, bottom looks better imo. On paper sheâs prettier in the top example.. but idk it doesnât look right. Also, we only notice the âuglyâ features on the bottom picture because there is a contrast right above.. whether or not that contrast is attractive, if it is leaning far one way, it will make the original photo seem like itâs leaning more the other way than it really is. How our brains work. Thatâs why people feel more ugly after strictly using filters all the time, especially when the filter thing first came out with actually nice looking filters.
Actually I agree, just felt more natural
How do you know which one is the real image?
your brain automatically recognizes which face is more attractive. there's no intellectualizing this fact because it's biological .
I think the most important and provable requirement for attraction is *symmetry* and a healthy complexion. Professor Robert Sapolosky lectures (which are on youtube) are really enlightening on this topic. dimorphism is also important but there a too many cases,and cultures where it's not valued highly, think models which are valued for their stature prominent bone structure and musculature. I think people are very adaptable in their behaviours and tastes. But symmetry is the greatest consistency which makes sense as it's an indicator of health
My favorite channel
I was just talking about this with a friend the other day when it occurred to me that all of the women I found attractive looked similar regardless of ethnicity.
Objective beauty is singled out by legit scouts, in large overpopulated metropolitan areas, to work for a large corporation in the entertainment or modeling industries. They GO OUT looking for "talent" that represents their ideal image. Their main goal is to make as money as possible.
Objective beauty is scouted by LEGIT modeling agencies, whether they're professional elite fashion modeling agencies or legit online swimsuit or promotional modeling agencies. Again, they won't take just anyone. The owners have criteria that need to be met.
Itâs both. Most people will agree if someone is very attractive or ugly, but among more average people, there is a lot of subjectivity. Which is why most of us have people who find us attractive and people who donât. Itâs also influenced pretty strongly by trends. I would say that the appearance of health is attractive across all cultures and times, but the Victorians might disagree.
Beauty is subjective even if most people can agree that something or someone is more aesthetically pleasing than something or someone else. Why? The way your brain is wired is what determines how you distinguish beautiful from not. But brain wiring is not universal.
Beauty is subjective cuz when I see girls with big eyebrows I just don't find it attractive something you said is attractive
Depends on how big the eyebrows are proportional to other areas of their face. There's something called facial harmony but of course there's still a space for personal preferences too maybe you have certain type of eyebrows.
your brain, however is wired to perceive thicker eyebrows as belonging to someone youthful and healthy and thus appropriate to have robust offspring with. people lose eyebrow hair as they age and they become grey. that's why dermablading (sp??) and eyebrow hair transplants AND brow pencils are so popular: they signal YOUTH.
beauty is not subjective- sexy is objective though. there are super models who dont give me those feelings but there are , what society would call, a 6 that does
Super models job is to be a blank canvas for the clothes they're showcasing, not to actually be hot. Idk why do people use models as examples of beauty. I think celebrities, actors and music artists are the real reflection of people liking someone for their looks regardless of their talent since most are mediocre at their profession but are attractive.
@@user-bx8sj6qm3w i don't agree. super models are insanely hot and most top actresses are too. they are excellent examples of beauty regardless of their job requirements. but im not talking about liking someone for their looks im talking about the difference between what is beautiful and what is sexy, so im not sure what point youre trying to makein your last sentence
@@user-bx8sj6qm3w Models have more categories than runaway
@@user-bx8sj6qm3w they are human clothes hangers. if they were very hot then people wouldn't notice the clothing--just like the 90's supermodels. people were looking at THEM first and NOT the clothing. i mean the clothes still sold BUT the designers prefer to showcase their wares on blank canvases, as you mentioned. the clothing should be the star. not to underestimate the star power of models, etc. to influence brands, though!!
It is subjective because what is beautiful to you is not beautiful to everyone. That's the definition of subjective.
I wouldnt really say that its "objective" at all, more like intersubjective.
Not subjective? Is that why so many people marry someone who looks like one of their parents?
Quoting roger scruton...nice
At last! Beauty is not subjective! đđđđ
Whoâs that last girl? She so pretty
the eye tilt was the difference
who's the girl in thumbnail ?
Chris hemsworth analysis
If beauty is objective, and that some people are beautiful just by default, then it's so fucking tragic. It just loss all it's beauty if it's just objective, automatic to like it..
The moment beauty become just "objective" it stop being beautiful. Subjectivity is what make our attraction/appreciation toward art/people so beautiful, precious and meaningful. If it's just automatic to like it, then it just become meaningless..
Man called me a dirty sock đąđ
What journal was that article published in?
European beauty standard is the elephant in this room
I completely disagree, but maybe thatâs due to being an artist. I know what traditional beauty looks like: symmetrical features, contrasting features/contours/colors, balance, femininity/masculinity, etc. but I have never met an ugly person. When I say that beauty is subjective or that everyone has beauty, I mean it. Uniqueness is what I find beautiful.
Man just typed ugly people on Google
I think you should dive into this topic further and explore beauty standards betweens different cultures.
Itâs gotta be pretty subjective though considering people have completely different tastes when it comes to things like ideal body types and stuff
"General agreement and aesthetic framework" â objective beauty
Amongst my friendship group, beauty is EXCESSIVELY subjective. The men they find attractive differ wildly from one another and some are repulsive to the others!
Wow only 60.000 views?!?
Can you please make a video about ear aestetics?
We can't apply maths to living things like that. If we only based love on objective standards we'd be so fucked up. It would make a very unfair, discriminating and cold society. When talking about humans what make us attractive is our facial expressions, our reactions, they way we talk, respond to things. Yes, we can be attractive although we are not mathematically attractive. I have been struggling with all this my whole life cause I experienced both : feeling, sexy, loved and attractive and ignored and rejected. I must tell you that being rejected solely based on your looks is very heartbreaking because you don't really see the person behind their facial features. And I also was able to attract people thanks to my personality. People are often unimpressed when they first meet me but fall under my charm once they get to know me. This post is very upsetting and it's just a point of view not a general truth. Otherwise we are so fucked up if we only base beauty on cold maths and forget that we are living things and the imperfections are what make things unique and beautiful.
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When I was in college my beauty standard was matching the standards of modelling industry, now as I grew up my beauty standard changed I no longer consider stick insect like supermodels no longer beautiful .my face aesthetics standard also changed , I feel modeling beauty standards are substandard. now I consider fertile optimum muscular HGH and optimum estrogen faces with more attractive in male and female with some defined faces . I have my own definition for beauty and I consider it far superior than whats shown in this channel.
Nah u are beautiful if u fit your country beauty standards. For an instance dark/ tanned skin girl in Asia will be automatically ugly no matter how good looking she is.
What about a white guy in Asia đ
@@patrickbateman260 Asia is white men playgrounds.
Well good for white men.
Put those lesser east asian men to their place.
â@@patrickbateman260asia prefer lighter skinned asians not white
why do the thumbnail pictures look so different..
Beauty is subjective but ugliness is not.
Beauty is subjective. I hate to say that I dislike this content creator, it just feeds on to bdd
Don't you guys get bored đ đ
Sorry that doesnt make any sence - if beauty would habe been objective then why did it change over years ...
Beauty hasn't changed, just fads around beauty have.
A hottie in the 1970's would be a hottie now just like a hottie from the 1400's would be a hottie now too, just different styles
What do you mean changed? Care to elaborate?
â@@Aaron-kj8dva hottie from 1400-s would be called fat nowadays. Even greek godesses are called ugly because they have fat rolls and soft chin.
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Yeah it really doesnât make a whole lot of sense, thereâs a lot of subjectivity around it. What people usually mean to say is âI find this type of person to be beautiful so regardless of time period I believe this type of person is beautiful.â In other words, the only objective thing is what their taste is
First of all, not objective or subjective, but cultural. Rest comes after.
Funny how the sun rises and sets in the same place.
What did you do to make the person at the end more and then less attractive and can that be achieved through surgery or like filler
I wish i looked more feminine
thats what i always said
Sounds like narrow mindedness.
Everyone is beautiful â€ïž
No, ugly ppl exist and thats okâ€
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
You're wrong. Beauty is based on emotion, not facts. One person's beautiful is another person's ugly. For example, I don't find the girl in this video beautiful in the least.
The differences are so slight, yet noticable you can even argue that it can be changed with face expression. Meaning that having a sad or tired face literally makes you look uglier
I totally understand his point but for me itâs just off. Two people who are considered attractive are extremely unattractive (at least facially) to me. Channing Tatum and Ryan Gosling. I will say w Channing that although heâs extremely unattractive to me I can understand why others find him to be so. However, his eyes being so close together make him very unattractive. Itâs very off to me and something I canât overlook despite the fact that his face as a whole is considered pleasing to the eye.
Ryan Gosling is one I donât even understand how he is considered attractive. His face shape is so off-putting to my eyes. I donât know if itâs the length but it seems wildly outside of the range of average and there are no features that counterbalance that for me. His features may all actually fall in that average range but my brain isnât registering that for some reason. I think about how the channel speaks to average being a sign of good health and his face falls so far outside the range of that for me and Iâm not sure why.
Wait people are actually attracted to them? i thought we were doing it for the meme
I think that these âbeauty analysesâ are not good.
It is similar to saying that art is simply a skill that can be learned. Sure, you can teach anyone the techniques in art, however, this does not negate the fact that some are born with an innate gift of being able to do art. Art lives and breathes through them.
Beauty is similar. You can scientifically analyze beauty and try to describe it all you want. But science doesnât have to teach and explain EVERYTHING. I think beauty is best experienced when you just see something and think, wow, that was lovely. Princess Dianna had a big crooked nose, big hands and feet, what you would call bad posture, yet she was beautiful and charming and alluring.
I think it is very damaging to do thisâŠto try and scientifically explain beauty away, as if it is just symmetrical faces and geometry.
Shame on you.
i have big eyes and they are upturned but im still not pretty
everyone is beautiful
Kendall said it to Kylie and Kim đđđ
*Wake up to reality*
If true, that means there are many tier levels to beauty.
Nah, beauty is for sure subjective. I dont find ostriches beautiful, but other horny ostriches sure do.
Ive been turned down for being "too thin" in a society that values thinness. I've had someone leave me for a girl that was "alt" in spite of my more traditional looks. Don't mind one bit. People like what they like. Thinking there is one rule book when the rules vary from gender to gender, person to person, culture to culture, etc. is very full of eurocentricity and also just patently false.
Does this culture in this time and space prefer certain things? It certainly does. And those things give you a leg up, and it's important to acknowledge that.
But theres loads of folks in this world that couldnt even tell you the difference between those two pictures. And my cat certainly couldn't
Beauty standards change all the time. Objective? Sure. Consistent. Fuck no
Absolutely not subjective
The red haired girl is not beautiful. Too wide eyes
Many people are just offended because this channel is simply trying to explain physical beauty through facts. Weird.
The bottom edit of the girl looks sick or diseased compared to the above. Obviously mating is about finding the healthiest person for healthy offspring to survive.
Explain Lucy Liu and Cai Niang Niang if its objective