absolutely agree. as a hanzo main its so annoying hitting a clean full charge headshot and it being useless for being healed off in a second. like im considering switching to widow purely bc of oneshot.
@hodgmandinio1 Imo he honestly didn't and there were much worse issues than hanzo (and still are obviously) but he was a little too strong. The fact he can shred a reaper in his face just as easily as he can 1 tap a mcree across the map was a bit much.
@@protophileXD easy, make him have only 3 storm arrows, if you hit its a skill problem, if he misses, he dies, but no matter what he cant just shred through a tank solo
@@ailospjellok7475 This sounds good but him having storm arrow is the only reason people play him. You get rid of the only thing he has left and youre better off Playing Widow. They could fix and help him by bringing back the ability to charge an arrow and climb walls while still having the arrow charged after. it was a problem because it was an Instant kill, but now he cant do that so there surely shouldnt be a problem
Hanzo was never really problematic. His inconsistency balanced out his strengths very fairly. One could argue he was a little too versatile. They should not have removed his one-shot, but instead nerfed the Storm Arrows.
@@protophileXD I also don't like the idea of reverse fall-off, since that will encourage him to spam from range for a different reason than now. He gets dived a lot and his mobility is not enough for him to avoid the fight, so it would also hurt him. It would be better to just buff his primary and to give it sharp damage fall-off (100 damage minimum to maintain the Hanzo vs Widow matchup) at 25-30+ meters to force him into the close-mid range. He was not even that good at long range anyway. They could also nerf his Storm Arrow count to 3 or 4 and add the same fall-off (resets on bounce).
he was very problematic when he had scatter and he will always be problematic to the community because 1 shot is just annoying to a lot of people and that is something the devs can't really change
It's so rewarding when my Hanzo muscle memory kicks in & i 180 flick a Sombra or Moira in the skull and they don't die. So fun, glad I played this hero for all those years. Honestly though, since he's been so ass I've picked up Widow a lot more... I've experienced more slurs this last year on Widow than I did on Hanzo for ~7 years.
Finally someone who mentions the fact that hanzo cant one shot but widow can. Im okay with hanzo not being able to one shot and he is one of my favorites but if hanzo cant then widow shouldnt either so they should hopefully give him his one shot back or change widow.
@@Moth1189 I'm honestly ok with one shots as long as they're handled well. Overwatch didn't really do it well lol but they didn't even try to fix what they had.
@@wnyduchess people said that with hanzo and that he would be bad without it. They took at and they were right. Widow losing it actually wouldnt be as big a deal because you can just instantly shoot again, with hanzo you either need to storm arrow or charge another arrow and hope they dont hide.
Can we talk about how badge Lunge is? You cant even get out of melee range from a Rhein with it. Combine that with how Wall Climb fails like 1/4 of the time, the second hanzo gets dove by a tank, he just dies.
my 2 main dps picks rn are hanzo and junkrat. i dont mind that he doesn't 1 shot headshot most characters anymore, though i wish they would add a couple characters to the list haha good luck with the channel bro. great video.
The only people who complained about Hanzo being an arrow spammer are people who never played the character and stood still when shooting. Not being able to use skill to headshot someone diving me as a Hanzo and instead being forced to use storm arrow is stupid. Just change him back to how he was. He already had no more pre charging arrows. Now his Ultimate isn't even useful for zoning anymore leading it to only be useful if you shoot it at people through walls that don't expect it and even then most characters can just walk or use mobility to get out of it before they die. Removing the arrow pre charge on wall climb was a nerf enough and most people who play Hanzo only really use storm arrows against tanks or to bounce shot someone behind cover. So I see no issue with having left him as he was at all. Not everyone who plays Hanzo can even hit headshots most of the time so why bother taking that away from the few people who can.
I recently played with his scatter arrow being back for a limited time and the damage was nerfed and it was fine, why didnt they just nerf the scatter arrow damage and call it a day. he was fine
As a non hanzo lover here’s how i see it, Hanzo still has high mobility, High Damage, No hard counters necessarily and he still pretty much one shots as long as the tiniest of bullet hits them before/after
Not just for Arrge but for the game itself, you have cyborgs and ninjas and cyber-ninjas and genetically modified beings but don't allow a guy who chose the bow over whatever bullshit all the other characters have even though he was good at the sword when he was young? c'mon man, that's like nerfing a nerf.
Calling Bastion a glass cannon is a little wild. 250 health 100 armour and 20% damage reduction when transformed. It must be one of the more tanky DPS heroes.
@DDoig1 in the grand scheme of overwatch I'd say that's not alot, when paired with his high damage I'd say he is a glass cannon compared to tanks of any other dps. He's easy to take out but can deal absurd damage
you know, im gonna get my first paycheck in 5 days, and im gonna upgrade my computer parts a little, so i was wondering if i should give ow2 a try since i immedietly uninstalled it after it became ow2 because of how cheated we got, and now my potato pc cant run it. but i mean is it even worth it if the one character i used to play and have fun with cant even do the one thing he was good at? like bro he was just a sniper with worse mobility than widow, yeah he could get around to even better spots, but he had no escape tool, and he still doesnt
I'm not going to rag on your opinion, everyone gets one but, I thought this would be a deep dive or an analysis but it's just a rant, I feel like I didn't gain anything from watching this video and you opened this up like you were going to talk about snipers but you have widow like an honorable mention in your video about how great hanzo is and was and how you'd really like other players to stop bullying him
@kaskjmerecollier3917 not sure what you're point is? What more is there to say about one shot characters? I used widow as a comparison because the reason people had an issue with hanzo was his one shot but widow was a bigger offender.
@protophileXD yeah the match making system has been brutal too. I just wanna play for fun. I'm not interested in grinding! If I wanna play seriously, I'll play comp. Let me be goofy in QP 😭
@kaiserrat70 it's volatile but I don't mind them. If I'm getting rolled by a widow I'll switch to sombra. If I was getting rolled by a hanzo I switch hanzo or play someone with more health.
@@protophileXD counterswapping isn't healthy for a game, you should play whoever you want. I shouldt get forced off a character because of them being too good
absolutely agree. as a hanzo main its so annoying hitting a clean full charge headshot and it being useless for being healed off in a second. like im considering switching to widow purely bc of oneshot.
@@herraankka0 yup, no point of being good when your reward is nothing, awful feeling.
ya say he needed to be nerfed but he had a 47% winrate before the HP changes
@hodgmandinio1 Imo he honestly didn't and there were much worse issues than hanzo (and still are obviously) but he was a little too strong. The fact he can shred a reaper in his face just as easily as he can 1 tap a mcree across the map was a bit much.
@@protophileXD easy, make him have only 3 storm arrows, if you hit its a skill problem, if he misses, he dies, but no matter what he cant just shred through a tank solo
@@ailospjellok7475 This sounds good but him having storm arrow is the only reason people play him. You get rid of the only thing he has left and youre better off Playing Widow.
They could fix and help him by bringing back the ability to charge an arrow and climb walls while still having the arrow charged after. it was a problem because it was an Instant kill, but now he cant do that so there surely shouldnt be a problem
@@vornysamoyed6340they mean revert his bow but nerf storm arrow.
Hanzo was never really problematic. His inconsistency balanced out his strengths very fairly.
One could argue he was a little too versatile. They should not have removed his one-shot, but instead nerfed the Storm Arrows.
@@afterthought9538 absolutely agree
@@protophileXD I also don't like the idea of reverse fall-off, since that will encourage him to spam from range for a different reason than now. He gets dived a lot and his mobility is not enough for him to avoid the fight, so it would also hurt him.
It would be better to just buff his primary and to give it sharp damage fall-off (100 damage minimum to maintain the Hanzo vs Widow matchup) at 25-30+ meters to force him into the close-mid range. He was not even that good at long range anyway. They could also nerf his Storm Arrow count to 3 or 4 and add the same fall-off (resets on bounce).
he was very problematic when he had scatter and he will always be problematic to the community because 1 shot is just annoying to a lot of people and that is something the devs can't really change
@@syfayre3957 Agree with this as well.
It's so rewarding when my Hanzo muscle memory kicks in & i 180 flick a Sombra or Moira in the skull and they don't die. So fun, glad I played this hero for all those years. Honestly though, since he's been so ass I've picked up Widow a lot more... I've experienced more slurs this last year on Widow than I did on Hanzo for ~7 years.
@@King_Gaiseric best comment so far.
Finally someone who mentions the fact that hanzo cant one shot but widow can. Im okay with hanzo not being able to one shot and he is one of my favorites but if hanzo cant then widow shouldnt either so they should hopefully give him his one shot back or change widow.
@@Moth1189 I'm honestly ok with one shots as long as they're handled well. Overwatch didn't really do it well lol but they didn't even try to fix what they had.
Widow would have literally nothing without the one shot. It's her identity, I don't think anyone else should have one tho.
@wnyduchess I think hanzo and ults obviously should keep it imo.
@@wnyduchess people said that with hanzo and that he would be bad without it. They took at and they were right. Widow losing it actually wouldnt be as big a deal because you can just instantly shoot again, with hanzo you either need to storm arrow or charge another arrow and hope they dont hide.
Except thats literally widows only ability
Can we talk about how badge Lunge is? You cant even get out of melee range from a Rhein with it. Combine that with how Wall Climb fails like 1/4 of the time, the second hanzo gets dove by a tank, he just dies.
@@Nydas yeah I appreciate that part of his kit but it definitely isn't insane or anything.
damn i thought this was a bigger channel love the content tho keep going you'll make it someday
@@vamsiravi8563 ty
I didn’t even notice, I thought this was AT LEAST a 10k subscriber channel.
@@wooblydooblygod3857 nah right i was pleasantly surprised
my 2 main dps picks rn are hanzo and junkrat. i dont mind that he doesn't 1 shot headshot most characters anymore, though i wish they would add a couple characters to the list haha
good luck with the channel bro. great video.
The only people who complained about Hanzo being an arrow spammer are people who never played the character and stood still when shooting.
Not being able to use skill to headshot someone diving me as a Hanzo and instead being forced to use storm arrow is stupid.
Just change him back to how he was. He already had no more pre charging arrows. Now his Ultimate isn't even useful for zoning anymore leading it to only be useful if you shoot it at people through walls that don't expect it and even then most characters can just walk or use mobility to get out of it before they die.
Removing the arrow pre charge on wall climb was a nerf enough and most people who play Hanzo only really use storm arrows against tanks or to bounce shot someone behind cover.
So I see no issue with having left him as he was at all. Not everyone who plays Hanzo can even hit headshots most of the time so why bother taking that away from the few people who can.
I recently played with his scatter arrow being back for a limited time and the damage was nerfed and it was fine, why didnt they just nerf the scatter arrow damage and call it a day. he was fine
As a non hanzo lover here’s how i see it, Hanzo still has high mobility, High Damage, No hard counters necessarily and he still pretty much one shots as long as the tiniest of bullet hits them before/after
what's with the midtown music the whole video
@its_lucky252 ever heard of background music lol?
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Not just for Arrge but for the game itself, you have cyborgs and ninjas and cyber-ninjas and genetically modified beings but don't allow a guy who chose the bow over whatever bullshit all the other characters have even though he was good at the sword when he was young? c'mon man, that's like nerfing a nerf.
Calling Bastion a glass cannon is a little wild. 250 health 100 armour and 20% damage reduction when transformed. It must be one of the more tanky DPS heroes.
@DDoig1 in the grand scheme of overwatch I'd say that's not alot, when paired with his high damage I'd say he is a glass cannon compared to tanks of any other dps. He's easy to take out but can deal absurd damage
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you know, im gonna get my first paycheck in 5 days, and im gonna upgrade my computer parts a little, so i was wondering if i should give ow2 a try since i immedietly uninstalled it after it became ow2 because of how cheated we got, and now my potato pc cant run it.
but i mean is it even worth it if the one character i used to play and have fun with cant even do the one thing he was good at? like bro he was just a sniper with worse mobility than widow, yeah he could get around to even better spots, but he had no escape tool, and he still doesnt
@ailospjellok7475 if you didn't like ow2 at the beginning just know it's 100% worse now 💀💀💀💀
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I'm not going to rag on your opinion, everyone gets one but, I thought this would be a deep dive or an analysis but it's just a rant, I feel like I didn't gain anything from watching this video and you opened this up like you were going to talk about snipers but you have widow like an honorable mention in your video about how great hanzo is and was and how you'd really like other players to stop bullying him
@kaskjmerecollier3917 not sure what you're point is? What more is there to say about one shot characters? I used widow as a comparison because the reason people had an issue with hanzo was his one shot but widow was a bigger offender.
All my favourite heroes have either been nerfed to death, or have too many counters.
OW2 is unfun in its current state.
@@MidnightEden couldn't say it better myself, don't forget to mention the matchmaking making every other match a stomp though.
@protophileXD yeah the match making system has been brutal too. I just wanna play for fun. I'm not interested in grinding! If I wanna play seriously, I'll play comp. Let me be goofy in QP 😭
okay but when will we get fortnut 2
@@ruincanwalk whenever we get the return to rts
Yeah no character should have a one shot
@@kaiserrat70 Whats your logic?
@@protophileXD it's just not fun to play against, I think combos are fine like junkrat mine and primary but just an instant one is too much
@kaiserrat70 it's volatile but I don't mind them. If I'm getting rolled by a widow I'll switch to sombra. If I was getting rolled by a hanzo I switch hanzo or play someone with more health.
@@protophileXD counterswapping isn't healthy for a game, you should play whoever you want. I shouldt get forced off a character because of them being too good
@@kaiserrat70 then I'm not sure how you can enjoy overwatch at all because that's kinda the point of the game.