Therapist reacts to Change by Deftones
Vložit
- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- Therapist analyzes the lyrics of this song from the point of view of the fly, and encourages individuals who feel like they have been trapped in abusive relationships to remember that it is not their fault that they are trapped here. It's a gradual shift, and if it weren't it likely wouldn't have happened.
#deftones
--
❤️ Volunteer and offer support to other music fans: www.heartsupport.com/volunteer
👉 If you open up about your mental health in the comments using @heartsupport, we’ll write back to you.
HeartSupport Instagram: / heartsupport
You can donate to HeartSupport at www.heartsupport.com/donate
* Disclaimer: For educational and informational purposes. Not intended as medical or therapeutic advice, or to evaluate, assess, ameliorate, modify, adjust, diagnose, treat, prevent, cure, any disease, condition, disability, problem, dysfunction, or disorder. - Hudba
Deftones is one of those bands that has some pretty ambiguous lyrics that you can interpret different ways depending on your perspective. I love it.
I think Chino intentionally likes to write his lyrics like that to mess with people. He likes messing with people’s heads a bit. Which is fine by me. Because I believe, (not that anyone really cares what I think) that music and lyrics should be more about the person listening to them. Whether or not it matches what the writer had in mind is irrelevant. It’s an individual journey that the listener is on, which is pretty awesome.
Everybody understands the lyrical meaning lol it's low-brow poetry in a way. The music raises it up on a platform of your own and is the real meat here.
Absolutely right even Chino in an article I read said he makes the lyrics so vague and mystical or mysterious that it can be interpreted any way you want. Very grundge vibe in that aspect.
To me, this song describes the experience of watching somebody you love more than anything, change into something you cant feel anything for. Like watching an angel turn into a fly, and you cant stop it. It's about losing people.
i think its about a toxic relationship actually, or atleast its more implied than losing people, "It's like you never had wings
Now you feel so alive", why would you be impressed by someones freedom?
this song doesn’t feel like watching this situation from afar to me.
“I pulled off your wings, then I laughed.”
As I remember Chino said that all songs in this album have fantasy lyrics and have nothing to do with reality
Here is a concept that I hope can help you with helping others. You don't have to look at it through either perception, you can view it as a third person. It's like when someone you know is in a bad relationship, whether romantic, professional, family, etc. From the outside we see them changing but they are too close to the problem to see it. Use this song to inspire you and to give you strength to help someone get away from a detrimental relationship.
Flat out wrong. He literally said that he's the one that ruined them and took pleasure in it. If I had to guess it's about drugs... "Now you feel more alive."
Deftones Be Quiet And Drive
best driving song ever imho
Passenger....Deftones and MJK, great song.
beware 👌
digital bath👌
Digital bath is also a great song by deftones
Great song musically, lyrics are iffy lmao
@@earthscorchermeaning would definitely be content worthy on a therapy channel lol
Overrated imo
Chino said that's pretty much their epitome "Deftones sounding song"... Good intro to them as a band song. I'm guessing it's his fav.
@@earthscorcher digital bath was about him having a dream of luring a girl to a basement bathroom and throwing a toaster in when shes bathing
I am a grown ass man, and I am grateful enough to say that Chino's voice is more beautiful than most vocalists out there! This man is a Legend!
hell yeah bro seen him live over 35 times ..
@@chrono050 only seen them once! But at least I will die satisfied knowing one time was one of the best shows I’ve seen with my own two eyes.
Deftones has a track with Maynard James Keenan of Tool called Passenger. It's about doing dirty things in cars. It's very cool and fun and sexy and all that good stuff.
That song is great, and the two singers combine to make the song sound so much more profound then it really should be, given the lyrical content.
except that is not what the song is about.
@@Morph3usX Yeah, you know, I held onto that belief for a long time. But I can’t see any other way to interpret it.
Obviously you do, so stop being cryptic and enlighten us!
@@Morph3usX copy paste the lyrics and let's talk about then
the first time i heard passenger i thought addiction was the passenger.
The Red by Chevelle, might be of interest to us
yes! new to this channel and I searched for it.
Whenever I listen to Cherry Waves or Rosemary I feel exactly like that scene in Breaking Bad where Jessie tries heroin for the first time
Rosemary actually makes me feel like Janes death scene, and Jessie subsequently trying to revive her.
I fucking love Cherry Waves
Bro, you cooked
nahhh you really cooked something here
All those and Beware make me feel like that.
You hit the nail on the head with the interpretation. It's about realizing how the someone can cause irreparable damage to someone else and physically see how they have changed due to the influence.
She was feeling it around 2:54 🤘🏽😎
Deftones and Clutch are two killer bands that folks overlook with their DARK TONES
“So fire it up (fire it up, fire it up) Fire it up let the flesh be damned…”
I love CLUTCH
Burn that beard!
Minerva and Xerces are my go to "in my feels" Deftones songs
Deftones changed the way i look at music when i was a young teenager with this song
Deftones have changed a lot over the years. If you're new to them, go back to their album Adrenaline
The Adrenaline album is so overlooked. It is still my favorite
Deftones - Hole in the Earth is another one to really dig into.
4:57 I was literally typing that I always took this as being about drugs.
Put you onto the glass- mirror.
Pulled off your wings- used so much that the high disappeared.
I watched you change- drugs affected the used.
That’s always been my interpretation as well. Feeling responsible for getting someone else addicted to drugs.
Other lyrics that support this theory -
‘It’s like you never had wings’ - they liked the drugs so much and began using so heavily that either the protagonist or the other person can’t even imagine what they were like before they started using
‘Now you feel so alive’ - describing how drugs feel amazing when you first start using them
‘I look at the cross’ - the protagonist realizing what he’s done and feeling guilt
‘Then I look away’ - he can’t continue to watch them destroy themselves with drugs
‘Give you the gun, blow me away’ - if the protagonist lets the other person kill him, it would end his suffering through the guilt of ruining this person’s life
Also - the pig mask in the video could be a symbol of gluttony in terms of drug consumption.
I was thinking it was about abuse:
"I took you home,
Set you on the glass
I pulled off your wings (as if she was an angel to him)
And I laughed"
"I look at the cross(remorse for the abuse)
Then I look away(it kills him to know he abused)
Give you the gun(putting power back into the abused hands)
Blow me away(give me what I deserve)"
Yeah. I see it as someone's potential and future being changed. It's like you never had wings
yeah i think the video is pretty revealing. he's been living the rock star life and having groupies thrown at him who start out different people before the drugs change them. and the breakdown part is interesting where he says 'give you the gun, blow me away' which doesn't take a genius to interpret.
This song was on the best movie soundtrack QUEEN OF THE DAMNED 2002 Wayne Static song “Not meant for me” is awesome too!!
Static X - Push it 🤘🏽😎
@@PML78 static-x Black and white!
@@DPRyan-vd5pp GET TO THE GONE... or ... THIS IS NOT 🤘🏽
Chino and Maynard my 2 favorite vocalists .. All their side projects are amazing.. This album came out in 01 and it "Changed" the game.. Passenger off this album White Pony actually has Maynard on it from tool
People always suggest I go to therapy. I always respond with, "Listening to Deftones is cheaper and readily available."
You have to do Rosemary!
Yes
This is signature Deftones sound, thank you Chino for vocals with so much emotion but completely outside of the norm for early 2000s. Fun fact, while there were plenty of punk-influenced metal bands in the 70s who used pig paraphernalia, it was the combination of Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails and Tori Amos obsession with pigs that it became a more accepted aesthetic among alternative styles of music and subculture in the 80s and 90s. It is also symbolic of feeling like a slab of meat, or someone who goes with the crowd just to be lead to the slaughter... when not being used to insult police like Otep and GWAR do. For me, this song was what pulled me out of the funk when I was being overly dramatic about my life. It was just cathartic to sing along and emote as much as he does. It had me instantly feeling better. Can i recommend "Gave Up" by Nine Inch Nails.???
Pigs could also be symbolic for mindless selfish consumption as well
@@jacobm2625 Very true, and to that point Tool comes to mind.
@@JMulvy absolutely. One of my favorite bands as well. 🫡
Your so adorable and I love how your not afraid to show your emotions in your videos, I grow as a human watching your videos fr
Wow, your take on this is impressive. Deftones is one of my fav bands, and I have heard this song hundreds of times, but I have never thought of it from the perspective of the fly. 🤔🙌🏼
No one can pull off the Magestic Vocality quite like the one and only....
......Chino Moreno.
God Bless the Deftones.....
........they saved my life....
.....in more ways than a few.
🤘😈😎
Deftones 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Deftones is incredible and they've evolved a ton over the years. They've always kept that sexy ambient vibe in most things, but you can hear the growth. I love their song Rosemary - it's a good show of their range imo.
I’m absolutely loving your vids, Deftones is and forever be the band closest to my heart.
Deftones... One of the greatest bands I've ever had the pleasure of hearing. They've got a song for every mood. I have so many memories attached to their music, and every time I hear one of their songs, those memories flood back to the front of my mind and all I can do is smile, even if the memories aren't always good ones. I can only smile because, of course, I cannot change my past; but also because it never ceases to impress me how well their songs fit with those memories, and how vividly they replay before my mind's eye. I love Deftones.
Amazing work, please keep it up! Thank you for keeping in the part where you were struggling to find something meaningful from the song, I related so much to being at a loss or feeling like you didn't have anything impactful to say. Thank you for being so vulnerable, it really makes a difference!
I've always thought of this the song being spoken from the perspective of my younger self, how in order to survive, my younger self learned to isolate, create a narrative that I was broken in order for things to hurt less, therefore "I pulled off your wings." I also think of it in the more literal sense in my experience with self harm, and pulling off my wings, literally disfiguring myself, ignoring the physical pain to find the release of emotional pain, and "I laughed" representing the smile that would manifest when I practiced self-harm. The lyrics "now you feel so alive" really outlines the sick and twisted payoff you get from self-destruction, whether that's codependency, substance use, self-mutilation, eating disorders, gambling, sex addiction. The Peace of the song "it's like you never had wings" and "now you feel so alive" speaks to the experience of never having anyone of value to trust or be vulnerable with, further justifying my own isolation. It's such a common narrative I see in my work as I watch people destroy their bodies with fentanyl and xylazine everyday and justifying it because their life never was looking upward anyway, they never had wings that would let them fly so they continued to destroy them. In the classic analogy of reaching for the apple, not being able to grab it and saying "I never wanted the Apple anyway" in this case the Apple being well-being, the sense of fleeting pleasure, peace, fulfillment and adventure no matter how self-destructive still can feel as incredibly rewarding when you tell yourself it was never in your cards to have the alternative, or that healing isn't possible for someone like me. These lies we've told ourselves a long time ago can define us for a very long time. This is just my perspective. Thank you for letting me share!
Deftones is not just music but an experience. Feels like a full on journey with every album and an insane emotional rollercoaster to boot
I love your way of describing to make something good out of the lyrics or whatever ... and yet again spot on almost about the feeling someone may have had
Thanks for your vision of the lyrics song. ❤ Greetings from Colombia
lets goo been asking for deftones for a minute!
Deftones.
Nuff said.
Love it, keep up the good work with everything.
Edit:
Ok I have more to say lol.... I think you will find Chino interesting and love Deftones.
Chino loves trolling people about his lyrics.
He has not always been nice bout it... lmao.
Seeing you trying to figure it out is amazing, I can Not wait for you to go deeper with them. :)
Such a euphoric song
Deftones - Rosemary
Deftones Hole in the Earth! Amazing song!
We love you too!! ❤❤😊
Story goes the song is about the lead singer sitting in a group with family confronting a family member over a drinking problem
You’re doing a few of our anthems from way back when! I love it! Unfortunately the way I see it, was in a toxic situation, nothing was ever enough for the dude. Cheating, lying, stealing and of course drugs. He cost me everything I ever earned or owned, and it still wasn’t enough.
30 years later, I watched him change into a fly after he laughed at jerking me around for decades….. I knew something was going on, I just had no idea how to fix it, how to help, when I realized it was over the top hard core drugs… I had to worry about getting MYSELF back to shore safely.
I left, walked with clothes on my back. Started a new life. Narc-free. I feel bad. But *shrug* I didn’t deserve that, and I couldn’t pull him to shore!
Cheno Moreno’s vocals always give me chills. He’s one of the best in the business.
Ah I haven't listened to Deftones in forever, this was an awesome analysis! Now I'm gonna be listening to Deftones for the next month nonstop lol
First one here! Super excited for you to react to Deftones! You should react to their song Beauty School next!
for me this song is like watching your ex js go to the bottom after leaving you and you seeing they ain’t nun with out you
loved it, because the few hours of analysis after... (thanks for it)
Oops.. however, for the "analysis"... Men and women come from Mars and Venus, so.....sorry ;)
Deftones - hole in the earth.
Thank you❤️
One of my favorite bands in the 90s
I've been a deftones fan since I was a15 year old. (1995)
My interpretation of their lyrics had transformed over the years. but I keep listening and my viewpoint has changed multiple times. This video really vibes with the way I currently view this song.
They are the biggest band to come out of my home town of SACRAMENTO.
Knife Prty, Cherry Waves, and Hole in the Earth are must listen
You should take a look at Minerva from them such a great song
This reaction had a lot riding on it. Congrats, you passed. I will be tuning in again.
i will always love Deftones all the albums
It means whatever you want it to mean ❤
One of my favorite bands of all time. Chino and company have always remained consistent in delivering heavy, chuggy guitar riffs mixed with Chino’s insane vocals. Lyrically they can really trip you up as majority of it can be ambiguous but makes it fun. Please continue this rabbit hole!
You had a very good interpretation for a first time listener. I spent some time digging and found an old interview with Chino saying this song was about him basically being toxic to a person he cared for deeply which makes me believe this is about his ex wife. He didn’t want to be with her but didn’t want her to leave. He was in the pits of addiction and was blinded by that.
Lost it at "sounds like this person watched the other person change" LMFAO 😂😭
I've had this convo before. The thing is the level of implication is any amount of deep. Oceans have shallows and depths, too ...with riptides.
This song is about those riptides.
Maggots are already maggots. Then, they become flies, and go for the decay. That decay looms over entire generations. That party of doom ...it's something that many struggle with more than God, more than death, because it's more unavoidable to them.
I also interpret the glass not as a window at all, but a microscope slide.
tl;dr "LA vibes"
Minerva is my favorite Deftones song. Great music video as well.
As a veteran, I'd be honored to see you react to the music video of 'Wrong Side of Heaven' by Five Finger Death Punch. It's one of the most thought provoking videos I've seen in a long time.
ffdp have some great songs that would work well with the channel, and theres a good chance Ivan would love the channel too.
great job
Late to the party but I am loving this channel!
I don't really listen to this song so much for its lyrics, which are haunting and ambigous (which is great) - I listen to it for the emotional states it surfaces in myself.
This song is from one of the best albums ever recorded. Passenger is also an amazing track.
Deftones, my own summer.... 😈
I feel like the lyric ‘I give you the lung… blow me away’ is the most important lyric in the song. As in, after all the negative change, he gives them the power to get rid of them.
For me when Ive listened to the song I've always felt that it's not a song about a relationship between two people, but my relationship with myself. As a past drug abuser, I saw myself many times being someone I couldn't even recognize. I lost loved ones, friends, things in my life, I mine as well have been a fly feeding of the rot that I created. It always felt like the song was expressing that feeling of constantly wanting to run from yourself. "I looked away, you were on fire" I couldnt stand to see how I was burning myself to the ground. The glass verse to me is just bringing home cocaine, once again taking off my own wings (good elements of myself), and only being able to laugh/cry that I'm here once again. "Look at the cross, then I look away" looking for anyway to get out, any sign of light to point the way, and still ultimately choosing to look away from it, and in turn handing myself the gun by continuing a lifestyle that has no happy ending. It screams a fuck you to yourself for allowing yourself to become this piece of shit, or shit-eater in the case of a fly. I think Chino just sings in such a sultry voice that sometimes people dont notice an element of self-loathing in his lyrics. But then again, that's just my thoughts. Loved your reaction and critique.
Epic Deftones ❤❤❤❤
Your facial expressions through this entire song is hilarious 😂. Best representation of what its like listening to this song for the first time
Architects did an amazing cover of this song.
I’ve watched almost all of your videos and I know your looking for more songs so I’d love to see your take on flaw -“the best that I am” it got me through a lot of my childhood with a dad the abuser and me the son who now has daughters and will never be that man.
Deftones is my ish.. been seeing them live since 1998! To me they are the NuMetal Goat
This song is a complex work that explores themes of transformation and loss of innocence. The lyrics use the metamorphosis of a person into a fly as a powerful metaphor for change, possibly towards something darker and less human.
Really love your channel, I've watched most of your vids and your perspectives our amazing. Since you like Maynard he does a Deftones Song Called Passenger. You should do a video for it. More Deftones vids :)
you are awesooome!
The Deftones to me are 1 of the most original bands out there….before them nobody sounded like that & they consistently reinvent their sound with often really cool results 🖤
Just remember when a fly lands on solid food it throws up on it...
This is one of my favorite songs of all time. I'm interested in your perspective because people that talk about this song never have the same one that I do. I always felt like it was about two people that loved each other very much but grew apart. Possibly drugs and the other one changed while the other one watched
The house of flies being a drug den and she turned into a fly so he pulls off her wings then laughs. Also how he uses the cadence at the end give you the gun....blow me away... Accepting defeat and even the cross is symbolic for the fact that he needs help on a spiritual level
Thanks
You need to listen to more Deftones songs. Chino can write a song about sex without mentioning sex. They have so many albums. Combat is a cool song, Royal is a cool, Ceremony is awesome. Listen to more songs not just one. You will get hooked. They came in 1998 and I have all their albums and rock some cool ass Merch that people always comment on. I have had a Deftones sticker on every vehicle I have had. I am 45yro. Best therapy ever! Gotta get a daily dose :)
Have listen to Ceremony from Deftones. I think you'll enjoy it and find the meaning quickly.
We like the way you express with your own unique choreography in listening to the song and articulating each metal song lyric, by the way you look like a film actress from Indonesia Wulan Guritno
I love chino voice
The way that Deftones is positive for your mental health is you just put them on, Be Quiet and Drive. I've been listening to them since the 90s. They're my all time favorite band and any time I'm having a bad day or things have just gone to shit, I just put on my headphones, put all their albums on shuffle and just get lost in the music.
You're exactly correct. This is about a narcissist who is trying to control a leader. And the leader pulls their wings off.
Deftones - Passenger
This track was a feature for the Queen of the Damned soundtrack. Could get vampirey vibes from this if you look at it from that angle.
One thing that is obvious and is awesome to see is that youre a slave to the beat.. and a damn good groove😁
seeing people's first reaction to Chino's voice in this song never gets old lol
Deftones Tool and Radiohead are among my top favorite artists im so glad youre giving your perspective on some of their songs. Can you please do Digital Bath by Deftones
I thought this was about his first wife. She started to pull away from him and he then manipulated her into staying. Neither was happy
I always took Chino saying I watched you change. About himself. Taylor it is okay to be Swift on reactions.
For folks of a certain age this is the music we made babies to.
Song called choke by the band bury tomorrow…… my life and anthem
without more deftones you're missing out on some incredible songs with vibes that don't exist otherwise.
This song gets inside you and opens a nest of vipers, what you do with those vipers and how you view them is the journey and the answer.
My thoughts on the pig mask thing, it gives me an impression of one’s identifying with gluttonous indulgence, handing oneself over to sin. An example could be in the movie Spirited Away when the protagonist’s parents are turned into pigs, or real life people being described as pigs due to certain behaviors. It’s also kinda just spooky, but not a very positive implication any way you slice it in my opinion. I like the song though 😂 I can relate to both perspectives, being changed for the worse in relationships or depleted of self at times and at other times having been the negative influencer witnessing that downward change in others. It is just a chaotic and depraved situation to be in like the place in the music video and I’m very grateful not to be in connection to those people and situations anymore.
Yeah... it's creepy ... period😬
Even Jesus put demons into pigs and drowned them.
But they are delicious 🤤😆😂
Chino said in an interview that Change was about him being an asshole to someone close to him. Along with other lyrics that Chino has written about his first wife, I think its about seeing her change into someone else and growing more distant, and then he manipulates her into staying with him even though he knows she wants to leave him. But generally I think it’s about a person who tries to control their partner and then finds themselves in a relationship with the shell of the person they originally fell in love with.
Deftones 4 ever ❤
Only "the one" trully gets it!
Saw them in 2000 with Metallica Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. My 11 year old daughters first concert.