The STORY of the Analogue Nt Mini Noir | HISTORY and REVIEW
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- This one took a LONG time to finish, but it's time to expolore the WHOLE story of the Analogue Nt Mini Noir, its creators, and the drama that engulfed its launch!
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Very cool starting the video out with a Tim Follin composition from Solstice. What a banger tune! Nice video!
Jon, this was absolutely fantastic. Super in depth, and 100% fair in both your praise and critiques. Awesome work!
Thanks so much Jay! It took a long time to synthesize my thoughts on this one - I'm glad it came across as intended! 😅
Watching this while i impatiently wait for mine to come back to me. Grabbed one from the last batch, but it arrived DoA. So far, customer service has been great, I just want to be playing already! This video is as close as I'll get for now.
@BLOW ME it has... there have been failed consoles for both.
Well I hope you have better luck with your second one! That sucks that you had to have it replaced, but I'm glad customer service is doing right by you. Good luck with the replacement - I'm sure you'll love it!
Hey there folks. I'm absolutely overwhelmed by the positive response to this video. It's been great reading everyone's comments over the past day, and I'm really encouraged by the fact that folks seem to like it! That said, I did want to add a quick correction.
At 13:12, I mistakenly implied that the Famicom Disk System connects to the expansion port on the back. Instead, I should have said that the port is used for Famicom accessories like controllers, keyboards, etc. I also incorrectly referenced this around the 18:00 mark.
Special thanks goes to Jason Sikes, xj1ggy, and Elrinth for the catch!
Good work, looking forward to more videos like this. Subscribed. Thanks.
@@danfromorlando Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
Nt mini ordered and suscribed, great video!
Thanks for this. I just yolo'd a order for one of the last ones analogue just decided to put up yesterday. Your video helps me justify the insane price.
Awesome! Super cool that you were able to grab one - seems like a lot more people were able to their hands on it this time than in the second drop. Hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!
Awesome video! the quality of your work and research is amazing. Subscribed!
Thank you! The research on this one was really fun to do. Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you! The research on this one was really fun to do. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job on this video, I can tell you did your homework and your passionate about Analogue, I'm a subscriber now! I'm a huge fan of Analogue too, and here are 3 things to comment about your video:
1.) There were actually four (4) different release dates for the Noir, you missed the second one (and the 4th obviously because this video came out before that last run). But that's because the 2nd window wasn't announced by Analogue, you had to have been just looking at their Store page on their website and notice that the Noir was available for pre-order again. That's what someone did in the Analogue FB group and then they let everyone know about it, that's how I know the event existed, I even made a purchase at that event:
Nt mini Noir 1st window (Pre-Order) opens 2020_0228
Nt mini Noir 2nd window (Pre-Order) opens 2020_0421
Nt mini Noir 3rd window (Pre-Order) opens 2020_0811
Nt mini Noir 4th window (Order) opens 2021_0409
2.) You got the wrong pictures of the 24k Gold Analogue Nt. You show just the gold colored Nt, which wasn't the actual gold plated version that was super limited (I think just 10 units, $5,000 each!). Here are some links you can see pictures of the correct, rare gold plated Nt:
christophertaber.com/photography/retro-receiver-for-snes/
www.dropbox.com/sh/t0q2ugrc9z3ee1r/AAADZUGmixFPLcxCR91Gt35ia/5-Past%20Announcements/11-24k%20Gold%20NES?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=1
Fyi, there's been a guy on eBay trying to sell one for the last year or 2 for like 100K plus Lol, so funny!
3.) Lastly, Analogue was not always so private about the moves they make. If you scroll through and look at their very old/original FB page posts, they would tell their community about re-stocks and when things would go into production, they were a lot more open to the public back then. It was only when they started to get popular and their products very sought after that they decided they would not update the community as much. I agree, it's super annoying that they don't update us fans that much. I feel like they would grow even more if they would just be a little more transparent and let us know what's going on, especially after we give them money for a pre-order.
Absolutely. I really feel like if they just improved their customer relations, then that would solve a LOT of people's issues with them.
And thanks so much for the corrections - they're always welcome as I'm bound to miss a few details when I make these. I'll put your note about the gold Noir in the pinned comment and credit you. 😁
Thanks so much for watching!
Liked this format! Also was watching Riggs channel and you popped up there for a cameo! Very cool!
Thanks man! Riggs and I have been a part of the same FB group for a couple of years now, so when he asked me to be a guest on a video I was super excited! 😄
A very interesting and complete video. Thank you 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Couldnt order a pocket. Now im a very proud MiSTer owner. Best purchase in retro tech i ever made. My snt went back in the box. Amazing device!
Man, I missed the Pocket pre-order too. Was super bummed about it, but I'm hoping I can pick one up so I can do a sequel video about it. I would LOVE to tell that story!
And I'll definitely be picking up a MiSTer in the future. They look super awesome and I can't wait to tinker around with one! Thanks for watching!
@@BittyKongsQuest i tried to order one but they sold out in 5 mins. Now im glad i bought the parts for a MiSTer after the missed preorder. Im also into tinkering, modding tech. This device is just mindblowing.
This guy is going places, we're gonna be the og fans.
In my honest opinion, this is thee best way to play retro. Cream of the crop, top tier!!!! I own two Analogue consoles. Mega Sg and Super Nt. Premium quality 👌
Indeed! I've really been enjoying it so far. Planning on picking up the Super Nt and Mega SG on the next restock as well. :-)
I like your description of "Who is the NT mini for?" saying "someone who enjoys the physical experience of popping in a cartridge" instead of one I heard in another video of "someone who owns a bunch of original carts". Some people may own carts but just to own them with no intention of actually using them.
As a NT Mini owner, that is one aspect I personally enjoy. It makes the nostalgia feel even more authentic. While the MiSTer is not a bad system by any standards, I like being able to physically enjoy my collection rather than have it just for looks. For me, that's what my posters are for! And while yes, I too could get an AVS, the NT offers even better quality video resolution the AVS only supports 720p vs NT's 1080p.
Great video, was a pleasure to watch.
I am a newer retro gamer and have been really interested in both this and the RetroUSB AVS. This review was just incredible. In-depth and informative. I'd love for you to do a similar review of the RetroUSB AVS.
Good job on the video 👍 A lot of great things on here and presentation was excellent. You used one of my tweets in your video haha The company’s reputation has def taken a hit as of late. It’s a shame because their customer service used to be great. They were very responsive. I think starting out as a small operation they just got overwhelmed with demand and struggled to adjust. Can’t wait to see a video on the Pocket (def a story there)! And if we could just get that Duo to come out…
Thanks so much for the kind words! I love covering Analog stuff - they're such an interesting mix because they get the products right for the most part, but their habit of shooting themselves in the foot with their fans is fascinating. I totally agree though - I think they mean well, but their successes outpace their ability to deal with them. And that's awesome that your tweet ended up in the video - thanks for contributing! 😄
I'm glad you liked it, and the Pocket video is coming! I've already scripted it - I'm just waiting on my own pocket to arrive (hopefully) later this Fall and then I can dive into the technical side. Really looking forward to telling that story!
Anyway, thanks again for watching!
Great video. Thanks for the info! I am getting an Analogue NT First Edition coming in and I am stoked to mess with it. I'll be streaming from it, so it's a welcomed addition to my setup.
Awesome! You mean the first edition, as in, not the Mini right? That's really cool! Those things are super hard to come by these days!
@@BittyKongsQuest No, sir. I mean the FIRST FIRST. Original parts First edition. No FPGA.
@@GameboyZeroOfficial Right! That's the one I was thinking - sorry I didn't phrase that more clearly. 😅 That's so cool though! That model in particular fascinates me!
@@BittyKongsQuest ah, yes. Me too. There isn't too much on youtube on it, so I'll be doing a video on it next week. Thanks again for your knowledge on this. It truly helped me a bunch.
Awesome! I'll keep an eye out for the video!
If you want those artifacts in your Everdrive menu to go away enable the 3.6v Cartridge IO setting in the Noir menu. On the original Nt Mini this wasn't an option and the console always did the 3.6v. It confused the heck out of me why I was only getting the artifacts on my Noir until I found that setting.
You could also upgrade to a later revision N8 or N8 Pro. As far as I know it's just older revisions of the N8 that cause problems.
Sweet deal! Thanks for the tip!
And thanks for watching!
I will finally get my very own nt mini in the very "last" run of last weeks :)
Sweet! Hope you enjoy it! I'm still having a great time with mine. 😄
I'm just curious is the sound better through HDMI or analog output? Thanks for this wonderful video! It was alot of fun to watch!
Just bought one yesterday. I'm excited.
Awesome! Glad to hear some folks were able to get one. I was afraid it was going to be like the last drop and sell out in seconds. 😅
Hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!
I rarely watch videos of this length all the way through, but this was interesting the whole way. Good job
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, and very informative. You have a new sub
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the compliment!
I really appreciate how you summed up the whole Mister vs FPGA console argument you worded it perfectly. So far I'm loving my Noir with the jailbreak, once you have those FireBrand X OCD settings it's pretty spectacular. Al though to be fair I am missing some of the AVS features though. Specifically the built in game genie codes (pre loaded list you can toggle on when you insert a cartridge) and the turbo button function which allows you to enable turbo per button on P1 or P2 (and even toggle the strength of the turbo). The N30 2.4G controller has physical turbo buttons which makes it borderline useless for games you want turbo only on one button. Minor knitpicks but still very nice features to have, plus for $200 it's pretty solid bang for your buck.
I do love Analogue though I own the NT Mini Noir, Super NT and Mega SG and it's reignited my passion for retro games. I'm so stoked for the Pocket and Duo as well, the Pocket in particular is going to be something majorly special with two FPGA chips and so many supported systems!
For sure! I'm really hoping I can get my hands on a Pocket - I'd love to tell that story.
Also, the AVS looks like a really awesome device from all I've read. I'm hoping I can pick one up one of these days, but my wallet is still bleeding from the Noir, so it might be a while. 😅
Thanks for watching the video, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
this vid quality, editing and presentation is great. SUb
Great job on this video, dude. Most of the subject matter was already know to me, but your presentation was excellent. Keep up the awesome work!
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for this very objective video.
Thanks! I tried to make it as fair as I could. I'm glad it came across that way! 😄
Fantastic, knew none of its bakground after buying. I love mine but had to go through eBay.
Yeah! Absolutely nothing wrong with getting it from eBay at the current prices. Totally a good call. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@BittyKongsQuest I did give a couple of Retro USB AVS's a go before going down the Noir route, but everytime I bought them had awful problems with the cart slots. Seemed to grip the games like a vice and was really worried they would break the plastic after a few started making noises. After a couple of months with the Noir it's been great and just about to stick the new jailbreak update in.
How is this possible that this channel so much underrated? What a great documentation about this console.
Thank you so much for the kind words! It was a fun one to make - gave me the itch to do more. 😅
Glad you enjoyed it!
This was a really great video. Nice work. I'm not really in the audience for Analogue stuff, but felt like I learned a lot from this video regardless so I stuck around for the whole thing. Good pacing and a well balanced look at things.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! 😄
Sooooo, I just found your channel and I am definitely impressed, well done sir and please keep up the great content!
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
amazing work as always! always appreciate the music choices as well!
Thanks man! Always appreciate your support! 😁
Hell yes!! Good show bravo 👏
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@@BittyKongsQuest Absolutely!
Came here after receiving the shipping mail of the NT Mini. Let’s hope it’s worth it.
Oh, and subscribed.
Thanks for the sub! And I hope you enjoy the system. I've been really happy with mine. It's not perfect, but it got all of the important things right for me!
So, was it?
@@AlexanderShelestov Yes, I believe so. This is the best way to experience NES games, especially on newer TVs. I’m very happy with my purchase. 😄
@@timtim2949 Would you buy it for $1,000 today? The price I see around my place including taxes and shipping.
I just bought used SONY CRT TV with original Famicom just for $150. So I think what will I get if I buy NT mini Noir instead :)
@@AlexanderShelestov
I think it depends on what you’re going for. An original Famicom + CRT is as close to genuine an experience you can get.
The NT Mini Noir gives you the ability to play both on CRT and modern displays with the most accurate performance possible. If you have a good sound system like I do, the clean audio is truly amazing: bit tunes from NES have never sounded so clean.
I have to admit that I already found the original $500 quite steep, especially compared to the Super NT at less than $200. I doubt I would have bought it for $1000.
That said, I think it’s an amazing piece of engineering and it’s definitely worth the price if you’re a big fan of NES and Famicom, which I admittedly am not. I decided to buy it after my experience with the Mega SG: that machine proved to me that Analogue’s products are worth getting, and I have since gotten the Super NT and NT Mini, and preordered the Pocket.
My advice depends on your scenario:
- If you think it’s worth the asking price or you find a good deal, get the NT Mini. IF you value picture and audio quality, it’s the best NES/Famicom you will ever buy.
- If you just want to have a similar FPGA experience on modern displays, get the RetroUSB AVS, which does 80% of the same things for a fraction of the price.
- If you want the true experience with a CRT, you can opt for an NT Mini and a DAC from Analogue for the more high-end version of that experience. If you don’t care about high-end on a CRT, you go for original hardware.
Just know that those NES and Famicom systems are getting old and when they start to die out, NT Mini and AVS prices will skyrocket. Hopefully Analogue will produce a cheaper model before that happens. If you want to play your NES/Famicom games for decades to come without emulation or with a CRT, definitely go for the NT Mini + Analogue DAC.
Hopefully this helps you choose.
Superb video. Thank you!
Everything is true and very professional, except:
@18:01: "As long as you actually have the Famicom Disk System attachment itself plugged into the back of the console" Nononono... Famicom Disk System does not connect to the back of the console.
Oh and the price of the RetroUSB AVS which is 189 in your image and you say 185 :P
Keep on doing great videos! Must have taken days upon days to make this video. Well done!
Thank you for the kind words and you're absolutely right! I realized the mistake shortly after posting and left a pinned comment with the correction. I wish CZcams still had a way to leave text annotations so I could correct it in the video itself! 😅
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I also credited you for the 18:00 mark correction. Re-read your comment and realized I missed that one before! 😄
@@BittyKongsQuest haha thank you. You didn't have to. I'm honoured!
What is the game shown at 16:15?
Edit: Found it! It’s called Fantasy Zone. I remembered it being an early Sega game. I had no clue there was a Nintendo release.
Hey Jon or anyone else...have you had an issue where the nt noir would not start and gave a three red led light blink? I pulled out the power, plugged back in and it then worked fine. Weird. 🙄
There are a couple of threads on this over at the r/Analogueinc subreddit. It seems like a lot of folks are getting the red blinking lights right before or when their systems fry due to a hardware fault. Seems relatively rare, but definitely something I'm keeping an eye on myself! I didn't find out about it until after I released the video or it's something I definitely would have mentioned. 😅
Great video my man! @19:46 It looks like your Everdrive N8 is the original one -- doing a firmware update on it will clear up those issues you were having on it's menu.
Thanks! I thought I was on the latest firmware, but I'll double-check! Could be user error on that one! Thanks for the tip and glad you enjoyed the video!
Great! Found you on r/AnalogueInc at Reddit
Thanks! I didn't even know anyone had posted it over there! That's so cool! Glad you liked it!
I have the NT Mini and when the Noir preorder came out I was debating not getting it....I am very glad I did order it. Now I have both.
Yeah, I had a bit of buyer's remorse for sure when I first placed the pre-order, and the wait was really rough, but in the end it was totally worth it for me. Seems like the upgrade from the original would be pretty massive too! Thanks for watching!
Cool vid! Love my AVS but was able to nab a Noir during one of the restocks.
I think for most people the AVS is more than enough. But the jailbreak is fantastic!
Totally agree. I've heard nothing but good things about the AVS. Seems like a really quality system!
Thanks for watching too! Glad you liked it!
Im disappointed in the loose cartridge slot. I put it back in the box and in my closet...
I can relate. I was definitely a little put off by it too. I'm looking into using getting a 3D printed spacer made to help mitigate the issue!
Thanks for watching!
Okay, this is really good. Consider me subscriber 755. I love that animated Adventure Island style intro too!
Thanks so much for the sub and the kind words! That animation was fun to make - I'm glad to hear that you liked it!
@@BittyKongsQuest I just ordered a Noir from the latest batch, which is what led me here. Don’t know when I’ll get it but I’ll be watching your channel now so it has already been worth it. 🙏
You mentioned the analogue feel but I personally feel the aluminium housing does not do anything to add to the product but I like the technological features of the console.
When it comes to price I chose an original Nintendo on a CRT or MISTer console on a CRT / Modern Display and still save money compared to this product.
I refuse to purchase one due to their limited run practices that encourage scalpers.
I hope other companies come to offer a better service and competition for that sector of the market
You're definitely right that they need to up their game in the customer service department. I knew they weren't great about it with the Noir release, but when I was researching for this video I realized that they've NEVER been good at that end of things. It's kind of amazing to me how popular they are with the kind of customer relations they've had.
And I totally agree about the regular NES or MiSTer on a CRT being more cost-effective. The Nt Mini is a luxury product and complete overkill for most people for sure. 😅
Thanks for watching!
@@BittyKongsQuest Scarcity is a valid sales tactic but not one I'm fond of I much prefer going to a store seeing that I want to buy and purchase it.
Think about the Ever drive line it only caters to a subset of the population that likes retro games but they are readily available should you want to purchase one.
I guess it could be worse though the whole Paprium thing comes to mind
Excellent work buddy! Keep these vids coming! 👌
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video dude. I just got my super nt preordered. Can’t wait!
That's awesome! I was able to snag one too - I missed it the first time around. Planning on doing another one of these based around it too, but mostly I just can't wait to play on it!
13:10 That's not for the Famicom Disk System. It's for extra Famicom controllers, like the gun, the keyboard, turbo controllers, etc. The Famicom Disk System RAM adapter just plugs directly into a Famicom's cartridge slot.
Yeah. Another person pointed that out. I'm going to see if I can add an annotation to correct it. Just have to figure out how. 😄
Thanks for watching!
One correction... the Famicom Disk System uses the cartridge slot, not the expansion port on the back. That's for other accessories. Other than that though, love the video. Subscribed!
Oh! Good to know! I'll see if I can add an annotation to cover it!
Great vid! Liked and subbed!
I picked up mine on the restock. I wasn't able to get one during the original preorder window. I was very close to getting the AVS when the restock was announced. Haven't regretted it for one second.
Thanks for the kind words! You know, I think you're the only person I've talked to that actually was able to grab a Noir on the restock. It seemed like they sold out super quick - you must have had some fast fingers that day! 😄
Nice work! I appreciate that you mentioned the COPYNES Mini feature for backing up your own personal saves from carts (very cool)! However, do you know how to get those .sav files to actually play off the SD card on the Nt Mini? I can get them to associate in emulators, but when I played the copied game on the NT itself, it seems to start fresh (even though the .sav file is right there in the SAVES folder. Thanks!
I think the Sharp Titler might be the most expensive NES (Famicom).
Great video! Thank you for sharing.
This is some top tier quality btw. 🧃🦆
Thanks so much for the kind words and the sub! 😄
I realize I’m in the minority but I have no problem with “manufactured scarcity”- Analogue are creating value for themselves, and trading theoretical sales to do this. These products are pure luxury after all and if there’s no motivation to buy right away, one can wait forever. Just ask RetroUSB, a company with an FPGA NES that’s awesome, always available and cheaper. I bet they haven’t sold half as many consoles.
You know, that's a good point. I wonder how the sales compare between the two. I'm sure we'll never know, but it would be interesting to find out!
Anyway, thanks for watching!
cant wait until some else comes out with a fpga for SNES maybe retoUSB
Well, I own a Super NT, Mega SG, and NT Mini Noir, so clearly I am a fan of Analogue's products, but my loyalty to the company is on a knife-edge. The Pocket pre-order was a joke, but not a funny one. Sold out within minutes! I wanted to give them my money the same day, but I was at work and unable to check the web page at that precise moment. If I miss out on their next product that I want, even though I tried to buy right away, I'll just go full MiSTer.
@@brianstuntman4368 First of all MiSTer is wonderful for anyone with the slightest bit of tech know-how. I'm considering downscaling my setup right now and it's hard to imagine using anything other than the MiSTer given the consoles it covers. Regarding the Pocket situation, I think Analogue wants to sort of privatize the MiSTer concept, and the Pocket is their play. That means there will end up being another pre-order in the Spring or Summer, and anyone willing to pay for one will be able to get it.
See?
really great review. Thanks!
19:24 Nice
do you think there going to bring back the super nt?
I've seen it in stock a couple of times recently, and they don't seem have a follow up coming any time soon, so I hope so!
I hope they relese an NT Mini "lite" that's $200... much like the SG and the Super NT...
I want one but it’s always out of stock!
I'm not sure they'll be restocking it, but they're actually still pretty available on eBay. You'd end up paying about what I did once you factor in the fact that shipping and tax added $50+ to the price when I bought it straight from Analogue. 😄
Thanks for watching and good luck with the search!
Great work dude. You trying to compete with Gaming Historian? :-D
Dude Gaming Historian is one of the first things I ever started watching on CZcams. The reference is very much appreciated and the comparison very welcome! 😄
Thanks so much for always watching man. Looking forward to watching Part 3 of Kid Niki!
And I still can't play Battletoads on it!!! This was just a way to collect funds for the Analogue Pocket production! They used us.
Super video ! Subscribed :)
Thank you so much!
I really like the hardware they make but I hate their policy of limited production runs. Just feels like they're intentionally underproducing to limit supply to create hype and social media buzz. Really turns me off to the company generally since this strategy directly feeds scalpers.
My first suggestion for future content is to try to keep yourself off screen. All of the other shots are really high quality, even the animated intro with the self-insert character, but the switch to you in your game room is a bit jarring. You talk with you hands, which is quite normal, but doesn’t always translate well to videos.
1. That's not the most expensive N.E.S. Heck it's not even an N.E.S John.
That's a fancy hardware emulator that happens to be expensive.
2. If FPGA recreates the original chipsets people wouldn't of had issues with Everdrives working on the 2nd Firmware yea?
or any issues at all right? I mean because the original chipsets don't present these issues.
3. If FPGA has issues that the original chipsets don't, well that means FPGA is a lie as far as recreating the original chipset.
Would you buy it today for $1,000? The price I see around my place.
Sexy game room. Subscribed.