Same, I kind of disagree about not allowing dark rune if the Mage has unlimited polys. When it was 3 polly resets (meaning poly to drop combat eat/drink, you could still unlimited polly to immediately reopen, or as an interrupt) per duel that rule made sense... But without that cap on mages it's kinda imbalanced.
There was a limit of how many times mages can poly reset I'm not sure I think it was 5 vs priests but there was a referee with us on discord and he counts them, he didn't say stop or anything so the mage was sheeping as much as he was allowed.
@Plandowin Of course Paladins can bubble out of silence, Bubble works the same way as Iceblock. If you arent school locked you can use it to remove ANYTHING.
I feel like you should've played those games near max range. I feel like all the short ranged skills is how you lost due to CoC and nova and arcane explosion. All you had in melee was fear
Great video as usual! Ive been playing disc pvp heals all of classic, I just made the switch to shadow, even without the best gear it is a ton of fun. Your tips and tricks are sooooo useful. Keep it up!
Disc Healing is really fun in BG's, having 1-2 good Mele and a Hunter/mage peeling others off of you while you keep up the 4 of you and smash through groups of 6-7 feels Soo good.
I've been watching your videos quite a while now and decided to make a priest too xD Yet I'm quite noobish if it comes to add-ons, so here's my question, what addon do u use for switching gear so quickly?
This kind of content is completely missing from classic. I used to play dark souls and for honor and both of them had a pvp scene on youtube where people explained matchups and just the general meta of pvp in those games. I assume tbc will have more of this with arena, but there's no reason there shouldn't be some of this now! Love this content!
Danny I know these videos are old but I am re-watching them during SOM to improve my PvP. Hopefully you see this, what add on or weakaura is that showing how much your heals are going to actually heal you on your health bar?
Good duels the mage played very well. I think its inportant to get the first fear asap to get wotf out of the way and that allows you to get some breathing room towards the end of the duel with 2nd fear. If 2nd fear doesnt get blocked it also allows a easy opportunity to land a nade into a mind blast.
Also I'm sure you're aware to look for nade/mortar or reflector when he blanket silences. Still played well, the difference between dueling a mediocre mage and skilled mage is night and day.
It would be very nice if you make a vid about macros, skillpoints and with explanation, for rogue and shadow. Which weapons do you use with your rogue fpr pvp? which is offhand and mainhand?
Any thoughts on the priest 2.5 set for pvp? I prob won’t rank any higher than R10 but I have access to the entire set. I do want to do more disc/holy pvp than shadow so a mixed set would be cool but there’s is so much Stam for survivability. I’d appreciate the insight.
T2.5 is better than rank 10 set and just about 200 hp, 350 mana and 35 sp worse than the full rank 13 set, if you didn't rank to 13 then the t2.5 is the 2nd best option for disc or shadow, no set bonuses for shadow but the stats is all you want so it's perfect.
I think the tiny difference between racials will change the outcome. The CDL winner is a Troll SP cmiiw? Not saying Troll is better than undead. Both have difference tools to bring to the table.
Well that's a good mage yes, and you are a very good shadow priest too. Was entertaining to watch you guys duel. I play amage now but just for farming gold for my other toons LOL.
Its what your suppose to do. I do it to mages and rogues to mess up there cc. Sometimes I'll innerfocus devouring plague myself. Heals me for the dmg taken and last longer then swp. Imo this priest is trash compared to me.
I used to see this absurd type of disabling on private servers, seems like it is there on official too. This much time spend in sheep not being able to anything is simply unfun. You took it amazingly. I would be furious.
Omfg dude i really dont like Shadow priest but you definitive you take the this class to another lvl amazing job on Tournament and even better your words after losing respect, most of ppl whining, yelling etc...by the otherhand you handshaking the winter well done, btw whats the counter class for Mage they can beat every single class if they are skilled, i decided to give it a try like shadow Prs inspired on this video,I never played this class before always rogue and Warrior can you give me some tips
I've spent the last 2 hours as a 63 spriest dueling a 69 frost mage. I can't tell you how maddening it is for neither of us to do anything for 3 seconds then the second I either dispel him or dot him, he gets a poly off before my gcd is finished for a fear or a silence. Also a pain in the ass that our silence is on the gcd but not mage cs. Granted the level difference hurts, but damn mages are not fun to fight.
In my opinion if he would play troll priest instead of undead facing mage you could get a win easier Against warlock slightly disadvantage tho But shadow guard scales ⚖️ well with spell damage can proc blackout stack up shadow weaving and heal you as well especially if VE is talented also has a low mana cost and no CD
You would've won the second one if not for his resist on nade and then another key resist. Good mage, but he couldnt of won without cheesy endless polying
Why are you playing the trying to kill him way. Imo just rank 1 swp. Manaburn, if that is counterspelled > greater heal. And focus on getting fear off asap so you can use it multiple times Imo try to oom him and play like a holy priest is better then trying to kill mages. Full defensive mode, the goal is to never let them bandage and simply outlast them. I find this playstyle much harder to play against then shadow priests trying to kill me
Mana burn worked well at the start of clasic when we had 4k mana now 6k+, I was playing it all the time, need improved talent too. Idk if mana burn till oom works now but I agree on trying the slow/defensive mode. Just need to practice it and get good.
@@DannyGaminGnC The way you play is good enough to kill 99% of mages probably. But it’s a really bad playstyle vs the top 1% imo. R1 swp, Manaburns and wand until mage oom is harder to beat imo, focusing on preserving your mana and healing yourself staying alive as long as possible. GL in future and congrats on 2nd place, awesome achievement :)
And I would like to teach you how to duel mage, if you want. Really, dude, even you are R14 you still cannot win any mage player if you come to CN server...
@@anasameer No, at the second match, shadow priest have no enough mana in the end, the mage could go sheep shadow priest and wait for other round. Heal him self a little bit and priest will eventually Oom. Instead the mage went offensive to priest and almost lost, that is just stupid.
@@danielprovost Omg, you just so cute. If the mage have no ice block nor the spell accelerate trinket (sorry I don’t know the trinket name), mage is very hard to win against pro shadow priest. Not mention this is a R14 shadow priest in this video and totally out geared the mage. In this case Mage using sheep is probably only way to win priest, and since sheep is allowed in the tournament, therefore using sheep to exhaust priest’s mana is call smart. Or it is reasonable to think that Mage might consider this priest plays so suck and he could choose directly rush and win the match. It is shame that R14 priest got beaten like a dog by mage.
Honestly dont know why y'all watch this guy. I wouldnt even put him close to top 10 priest. Btw save your nade for when he CS your heal and go straight into a MC cast. That's one of my many plays. Youre welcome
So Pshero wasn't allowed to sap to stall for cd's but a mage is allowed to poly endlessly to stall for cd's... makes sense
Same, I kind of disagree about not allowing dark rune if the Mage has unlimited polys.
When it was 3 polly resets (meaning poly to drop combat eat/drink, you could still unlimited polly to immediately reopen, or as an interrupt) per duel that rule made sense... But without that cap on mages it's kinda imbalanced.
Pretty sure I remember there was a cap
He wasn't using poly to wait for cds
They have a limit of resets
There was a limit of how many times mages can poly reset I'm not sure I think it was 5 vs priests but there was a referee with us on discord and he counts them, he didn't say stop or anything so the mage was sheeping as much as he was allowed.
I main a mage now, and I've mailed a mage since Vanilla-WotLK...
Being able to cast the SPELL Iceblock while SILENCED, doesn't make too much sense 😕
But its how it is
@Plandowin nope
@Plandowin not if we are locked out of holy spells. I'm not sure about just a silence though.
@Plandowin Of course Paladins can bubble out of silence, Bubble works the same way as Iceblock. If you arent school locked you can use it to remove ANYTHING.
I can make sense of it if ice is in your veins, you're alive when you're silenced and just use ur life force like a bankai type of ultimate.
I feel like you should've played those games near max range. I feel like all the short ranged skills is how you lost due to CoC and nova and arcane explosion. All you had in melee was fear
Well done brother! Loved the mini series!! How bout a rogue one in the future? You are so good on both classes 👏👊💪
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Thanks so much for this series! I loved all of the duels
Great video as usual! Ive been playing disc pvp heals all of classic, I just made the switch to shadow, even without the best gear it is a ton of fun. Your tips and tricks are sooooo useful. Keep it up!
Lol,fun?😂😂
Disc Healing is really fun in BG's, having 1-2 good Mele and a Hunter/mage peeling others off of you while you keep up the 4 of you and smash through groups of 6-7 feels Soo good.
I've been watching your videos quite a while now and decided to make a priest too xD Yet I'm quite noobish if it comes to add-ons, so here's my question, what addon do u use for switching gear so quickly?
Gj on making these thanks for all The effort u put in this😍👍
This kind of content is completely missing from classic. I used to play dark souls and for honor and both of them had a pvp scene on youtube where people explained matchups and just the general meta of pvp in those games. I assume tbc will have more of this with arena, but there's no reason there shouldn't be some of this now!
Love this content!
Danny I know these videos are old but I am re-watching them during SOM to improve my PvP. Hopefully you see this, what add on or weakaura is that showing how much your heals are going to actually heal you on your health bar?
The addon is ClassicHealPrediction, best of luck :)
@@DannyGaminGnC thanks so much for the response!
Super fun and informative serie !
Good duels the mage played very well. I think its inportant to get the first fear asap to get wotf out of the way and that allows you to get some breathing room towards the end of the duel with 2nd fear. If 2nd fear doesnt get blocked it also allows a easy opportunity to land a nade into a mind blast.
Also I'm sure you're aware to look for nade/mortar or reflector when he blanket silences. Still played well, the difference between dueling a mediocre mage and skilled mage is night and day.
Huge work Danny, ty for content!
Even if you did get the silence off, he would've blocked it 😢
👏👏Still amazing plays man
Good down to earth content. Keep it up
That mage is son of Vurtne ! Yay
Sheep 3-4 times every duel seems cheap and ez.
Limit should 3 maximum...
Did you consider Gnomish Turban of Psychic Might or Voice Amplification Modulator?
It would be very nice if you make a vid about macros, skillpoints and with explanation, for rogue and shadow. Which weapons do you use with your rogue fpr pvp? which is offhand and mainhand?
Any thoughts on the priest 2.5 set for pvp? I prob won’t rank any higher than R10 but I have access to the entire set. I do want to do more disc/holy pvp than shadow so a mixed set would be cool but there’s is so much Stam for survivability. I’d appreciate the insight.
T2.5 is better than rank 10 set and just about 200 hp, 350 mana and 35 sp worse than the full rank 13 set, if you didn't rank to 13 then the t2.5 is the 2nd best option for disc or shadow, no set bonuses for shadow but the stats is all you want so it's perfect.
I think the tiny difference between racials will change the outcome. The CDL winner is a Troll SP cmiiw? Not saying Troll is better than undead. Both have difference tools to bring to the table.
legit question, does dispelling the mage shield to have SWP hurt worth it or not at all?
20% Base Mana for the hope of dispelling the shield and not a rank 1 trash buff doesn't seem worth it, but someone would need to do the math.
broo, what addon or ui is that you use for the items on the swap?? its very nice
ItemRack
What is the mod that shows numbers over the enemy character portraits for buff/debuff active timers?
@@Preacher_. ty!
Well that's a good mage yes, and you are a very good shadow priest too. Was entertaining to watch you guys duel. I play amage now but just for farming gold for my other toons LOL.
What about rank 1 SWP when he pops his reflector? I've neevr been good at looking for reflectors but I havnt pvped enough
Its what your suppose to do. I do it to mages and rogues to mess up there cc. Sometimes I'll innerfocus devouring plague myself. Heals me for the dmg taken and last longer then swp. Imo this priest is trash compared to me.
I used to see this absurd type of disabling on private servers, seems like it is there on official too. This much time spend in sheep not being able to anything is simply unfun. You took it amazingly. I would be furious.
Omfg dude i really dont like Shadow priest but you definitive you take the this class to another lvl amazing job on Tournament and even better your words after losing respect, most of ppl whining, yelling etc...by the otherhand you handshaking the winter well done, btw whats the counter class for Mage they can beat every single class if they are skilled, i decided to give it a try like shadow Prs inspired on this video,I never played this class before always rogue and Warrior can you give me some tips
yo why are demo and dark runes banned for priests?
wait how are you doing this in wsg? so confused, you must play on a private server?
Using the wargame feature
danny the machine gl in next tournament
waiting for the epic spriest vs spriest duel hahah
I've spent the last 2 hours as a 63 spriest dueling a 69 frost mage. I can't tell you how maddening it is for neither of us to do anything for 3 seconds then the second I either dispel him or dot him, he gets a poly off before my gcd is finished for a fear or a silence. Also a pain in the ass that our silence is on the gcd but not mage cs. Granted the level difference hurts, but damn mages are not fun to fight.
good mage vs good shadow priest, always wins mage, he can just reset the duel, is pathetic and in my opinion mage is a hardcounter of shadow priest.
This eating (while enemy is sheeped) should have not been allowed
Awesome
In my opinion if he would play troll priest instead of undead facing mage you could get a win easier
Against warlock slightly disadvantage tho
But shadow guard scales ⚖️ well with spell damage can proc blackout stack up shadow weaving and heal you as well especially if VE is talented also has a low mana cost and no CD
Vurtne come or at last call why miss you..
You would've won the second one if not for his resist on nade and then another key resist. Good mage, but he couldnt of won without cheesy endless polying
good duels
Yeah danny, if you would fight this mage just in in open world you will be more confident and easy go :)
Not a single ice Barrier dispel wtf
So lame sheep sheep sheep sheep sheep sheep sheep
grandma dress?????????
Why are you playing the trying to kill him way.
Imo just rank 1 swp. Manaburn, if that is counterspelled > greater heal.
And focus on getting fear off asap so you can use it multiple times
Imo try to oom him and play like a holy priest is better then trying to kill mages.
Full defensive mode, the goal is to never let them bandage and simply outlast them. I find this playstyle much harder to play against then shadow priests trying to kill me
agreed. but its the mage's duel to lose tho
Mana burn worked well at the start of clasic when we had 4k mana now 6k+, I was playing it all the time, need improved talent too. Idk if mana burn till oom works now but I agree on trying the slow/defensive mode. Just need to practice it and get good.
@@DannyGaminGnC The way you play is good enough to kill 99% of mages probably.
But it’s a really bad playstyle vs the top 1% imo. R1 swp, Manaburns and wand until mage oom is harder to beat imo, focusing on preserving your mana and healing yourself staying alive as long as possible. GL in future and congrats on 2nd place, awesome achievement :)
That's why I hate classic. Resists are so random and one resist can sometimes destroy the whole fight and make it unfair.
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Sheeping and eating up, lol what a duel.
Vanilla wasn't made for this
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duwel
Nice try man
God mode is ez when you cheat
And I would like to teach you how to duel mage, if you want. Really, dude, even you are R14 you still cannot win any mage player if you come to CN server...
KEKW. This wasnt your average boosted to 60 mage mate. The mage played almost perfectly
@@anasameer No, at the second match, shadow priest have no enough mana in the end, the mage could go sheep shadow priest and wait for other round. Heal him self a little bit and priest will eventually Oom. Instead the mage went offensive to priest and almost lost, that is just stupid.
There's this thing we have outside your CN servers which is called integrity. He chose to not sheep like a little prick and end it with honour.
@@danielprovost Omg, you just so cute. If the mage have no ice block nor the spell accelerate trinket (sorry I don’t know the trinket name), mage is very hard to win against pro shadow priest. Not mention this is a R14 shadow priest in this video and totally out geared the mage. In this case Mage using sheep is probably only way to win priest, and since sheep is allowed in the tournament, therefore using sheep to exhaust priest’s mana is call smart. Or it is reasonable to think that Mage might consider this priest plays so suck and he could choose directly rush and win the match. It is shame that R14 priest got beaten like a dog by mage.
sheep and eating lol what amazing tournament and duels ... with such rules no one is impress by those duels
Honestly dont know why y'all watch this guy. I wouldnt even put him close to top 10 priest. Btw save your nade for when he CS your heal and go straight into a MC cast. That's one of my many plays. Youre welcome
Show us your videos.
Bad plays
You got rekt 🤣🤣 this is why I stopped playing classic months ago, mages are so op
Is it just me or the duel torniments are boring and can't wait for classic Danny videos to come back... I havnt checked in for ages..
Some terrible game play by you this series