Wang Jian Jun - From J-pen To C-pen

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  • čas přidán 24. 06. 2017
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    / top8tt Wang Jian Jun is a table tennis player from China. He once was a member of the Chinese B team. At that time he was using a j-pen blade. Has beaten Ma Lin, Wang Liqin, Chen Qi... Later in his career his switch to c-pen and play in Europe. Wang Jian Jun has played for Charleroi in Belgium and then for Pontoise in France.
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Komentáře • 91

  • @Top8TT
    @Top8TT  Před 6 lety +7

    Due to the summer holiday break, the next video will be uploaded on July 30th. Thank you, everybody!

  • @user-rz2ex6ui2c
    @user-rz2ex6ui2c Před 2 lety +5

    超喜歡看王建軍打球~
    直拍全場跳躍奔跑.
    套一句廣告台詞.他就是,~
    勁量電池.永遠不會累,!
    只可惜他與馬琳的決賽.
    被超大逆轉而敗北...

  • @citylidamj8898
    @citylidamj8898 Před 4 lety +18

    0:30 Ryu ‘s iconic move!

    • @jrk1666
      @jrk1666 Před 4 lety

      he was trained to mimic ryu as much as possible so the chinese players players could have practice against him

    • @yeagerist977
      @yeagerist977 Před 3 lety

      @@jrk1666 lmfao no don’t talk from your ass and spread wrong info

  • @bennypan2007
    @bennypan2007 Před 5 lety +13

    What makes him one of the kind is his amazing footwork, probably on par with RSM.

  • @injuredoldtabletennisplaye7001

    Great job. I subscribed today. He exemplifies the saying "speed kills". Like the way he mixes traditional penhold backhand and rpb.

  • @AshPhoenix
    @AshPhoenix Před 7 lety +42

    He's a Ryu clone for CNT

  • @speedytabletennis6985
    @speedytabletennis6985 Před 7 lety +9

    Wang Jian Jun used c-pen first, but switched to j-pen for some years to imitate Ryu Seung Min in training after he won the Olympics. Later, he switched back to the chinese style

    • @aarontian4168
      @aarontian4168 Před 7 lety

      是的。不过王建军的打法和特点确实有点像韩国日选手。他是我非常喜欢的一个球手,也曾经打进过全国锦标赛男单决赛,要知道中国全国锦标赛的技术水平不会比世锦赛差。

    • @zim-chan
      @zim-chan Před 7 lety

      王建军跑得是最快的。

  • @brahms008
    @brahms008 Před 6 lety

    Nice player this WJJ !
    Thx for the vid !

  • @pianotrainee9314
    @pianotrainee9314 Před 7 lety +17

    4:15
    That was purely cold-blooded shot

    • @-danR
      @-danR Před 7 lety +6

      And 2:05. It illustrates my claim that traditional one-side is quite suitable for bh attack. They just stopped developing it.

    • @pianotrainee9314
      @pianotrainee9314 Před 7 lety +1

      tubeist- dan Yes, very powerful backhand, though I'd say it can be really hard to use such type of bh attack consistently - the wrist motion is so uneasy

    • @-danR
      @-danR Před 7 lety +2

      I agree it can be difficult for the wrist of players of Wang's height, but even there, what a _stunning_ shot is possible. I played in the 70's when there were lots of penholders, and saw such shots; but very few of them then, and fewer now, actually train to amplify and perfect the bh as a deadly point-winner.
      For Ryu, taller, the shot is quite easy, but neither did he want to work on it. It is in the blood for a trad. ph to look for the forehand shot. People and coaches just have to change their thinking.

  • @zhouxinghan6986
    @zhouxinghan6986 Před 4 lety +1

    Wang was originally a cpen player, and was asked to be the RSM clone for CNT, so he switched. Also, he almost won against Ma Lin in the CNT Trials, which was to decide who goes to the WTTC. He was leading 10-3, but lost the game. After many years, he switched back because he no longer needs to be the RSM clone.

  • @Soper79
    @Soper79 Před 7 lety +17

    Pretty awesome to watch. He still plays like a single sided penholder though IMO. Even with cpen.

  • @guyincognito8655
    @guyincognito8655 Před 6 lety +7

    Hey man love your work. I think you should do a tribute to will bayley next and give the para game some recognition. Love the video btw keep up the good work!!

    • @Top8TT
      @Top8TT  Před 6 lety +1

      Thank you for a suggestion and for watching!

  • @themauritian421
    @themauritian421 Před 6 lety +19

    4:30 thug life

  • @safak3228
    @safak3228 Před 3 lety

    Absolute legend

  • @junstabletennisclub7226

    I like his playing~

  • @emc8564
    @emc8564 Před 4 lety +2

    this guy has very good footwork. i honestly prefer his Jpen

  • @telmoulyssea3701
    @telmoulyssea3701 Před 7 lety +3

    Sensacional !!!!!! O cara é fera, muito bom, tem um backhand forte e seguro além do seu jogo ser bem ofensivo e consistente, é difícil ver um asiático com a pegada caneta, é do mesmo jeito que eu jogo... vou me espelhar nesse cara, é muito bom,.. gostaria de receber mais vídeos dele e usá-los como fonte de pesquisa e treino...

    • @kine-tabletennisedits
      @kine-tabletennisedits Před rokem +1

      Se quiser usar de pesquisa de treino o estilo caneta chinesa (classineta no Brasil) recomendo também usar de pesquisa o Xu Xin, MA Lin e Wang Hao, e se for o caneta japonesa (tradicional) Kim Taek Soo, Cazuo Matsumoto e Ryu Seung Min

  • @user-zt7mw2ob2l
    @user-zt7mw2ob2l Před 2 lety

    Hitting sound is good

  • @ijnkongo2550
    @ijnkongo2550 Před 5 lety

    He could be something is he was not be trained as a clone of Ryu for coaching ML, WH at the time etc by CNT... But I do have to say his Jpen experience makes his games really fun to watch

  • @yong-haotan6576
    @yong-haotan6576 Před 7 lety +5

    Thank you 8TT for introducing such a player. Why Wang switch to C-pen?

    • @reinaldopessoa2603
      @reinaldopessoa2603 Před 7 lety +1

      Yong-Hao Tan so he can perform RPB.

    • @zim-chan
      @zim-chan Před 7 lety

      He was C-pen player originally. He switched to J-pen for being Ryu clone for CNT.

    • @reinaldopessoa2603
      @reinaldopessoa2603 Před 7 lety

      龙梓焱 nice

    • @Hin-yi6gw
      @Hin-yi6gw Před 6 lety +5

      Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin
      take a look in the following video
      czcams.com/video/XJAHC5UGdes/video.html

    • @josart699
      @josart699 Před 6 lety

      Hin5525 m

  • @aaronjones-eg2qd
    @aaronjones-eg2qd Před 6 lety

    Can you do koki niwa?

  • @gustavoc6812
    @gustavoc6812 Před 7 lety +10

    good idea! I don't see him for a while. is he still active?

    • @Symbianlover123
      @Symbianlover123 Před 7 lety

      no

    • @-danR
      @-danR Před 7 lety

      Yes, he's still playing, but his ranking is well out of the top 100 now.

  • @tomlone1140
    @tomlone1140 Před 4 lety +2

    All he needed was a chance to play in the international games.

  • @therealnotanut
    @therealnotanut Před 7 lety

    i cant believe i only knew him now

  • @victornoboru
    @victornoboru Před 7 lety +2

    Cpen but not much RPB. An amusing player, tho! Gotta love penholders!

  • @FormostPanda
    @FormostPanda Před 4 lety

    It sure helps to have great foot work. I would call it reverse c-pen. Like Ma Lin, he sometimes resorts to a reverse shot.

    • @williamvo4973
      @williamvo4973 Před 4 lety

      You mean the Traditional Penhold Backhand?

  • @binbinshao1575
    @binbinshao1575 Před 6 lety

    the title is wrong
    wang jianjun is from c-pen to j-pen then go back to c-pen

  • @Teluric2
    @Teluric2 Před 4 lety

    now he s coaching CNT juniors

  • @gustavoleal8112
    @gustavoleal8112 Před 6 lety +1

    Jugaba mejor cuando era un pen hold clásico. 😔

  • @keineahnung1978
    @keineahnung1978 Před 7 lety +1

    which c-pen blade + rubber?

    • @wingtolau6553
      @wingtolau6553 Před 7 lety

      C-pen has the shortest of all blade handles but the blade is round just like a shake hand blade. Some penholders put another rubber with different color (by rule) to the other side for reverse penhold backhand (RPB) playing style to upgrade/improve/reinforce their backhand performance.

    • @Poseidon99Jeus
      @Poseidon99Jeus Před 6 lety

      Hannes Mühlenbecker yourwifeonme brand, go get them

  • @gopositivelee3639
    @gopositivelee3639 Před 2 lety

    잔발 최고다

  • @user-se1cy5wv6i
    @user-se1cy5wv6i Před 6 lety +8

    好可惜,王建軍和柳承敏從沒有對上,否則一定很精彩。

  • @user-mq2ld2nm1l
    @user-mq2ld2nm1l Před 4 lety

    왕지엔준을 응원합니다

  • @user-my2pv3ob5l
    @user-my2pv3ob5l Před 6 lety

    i am try

  • @christophgrambach2832
    @christophgrambach2832 Před 7 lety +3

    genius player, but i don understand,what the differnece in the theme? can anybody help me to understand? TY

    • @chesterjar1505
      @chesterjar1505 Před 7 lety +5

      Christoph Grambach He's using a Japanese style blade with the traditional backhand in the first part of the video. In the second part, he's using a Chinese style blade with rubber on both sides, so he can perform RPB (Reverse Penhold Backhand).

    • @christophgrambach2832
      @christophgrambach2832 Před 7 lety

      ah ,ok i get it :), many thanks

    • @Hin-yi6gw
      @Hin-yi6gw Před 6 lety +1

      I don't understand what makes people think Jpen can't perform RPB, Jpen can perform RPB too, the main difference is Jpen focus more on power, Cpen focus more on spin
      take a look at the following video
      czcams.com/video/XJAHC5UGdes/video.html

    • @ijnkongo2550
      @ijnkongo2550 Před 5 lety

      @@Hin-yi6gw Jpen paddle is quite thick and big so it is not as agile as Cpen in changing hand gestures.

    • @Hin-yi6gw
      @Hin-yi6gw Před 5 lety

      Yes, it is not as agile as Cpen, but for a different reason. When having rubber on the RPB side on Jpen, we still rest the fingers on the blade, not on the rubber. And consider we usually rest our fingers on the rubber on Cpen, the total thicknesses are about the same. Also, Jpen are generally taller but also narrower, so the size is about the same. The main difference is that the center of mass is more towards the end of the bat on Jpen, and that's what makes the Jpen not as flexible as Cpen and harder to stabilise the bat angle.

  • @tm6134
    @tm6134 Před 5 lety +2

    中国選手で日ペンは珍しいね。
    今じゃあ、まず見ないタイプの選手かなー

  • @user-eo8lc5du3k
    @user-eo8lc5du3k Před rokem

    王子手感唔好之出奇

  • @gustavoleal2469
    @gustavoleal2469 Před 5 lety

    Wanj Jian cambió su técnica de revés, pasó paso del clásico, como Kim Taek, a hacerlo como Wang Hao. Qué lástima!

  • @do7412
    @do7412 Před 7 lety +1

    この方の最高世界ランクは何位ですか?

    • @kaizhangtabletennis
      @kaizhangtabletennis Před 7 lety +2

      世界のステージで出るチャンスがなかったと思います。まぁ、中国人だから、しょうがないですよね。(日本語が悪い、ごめん)。

    • @do7412
      @do7412 Před 7 lety +2

      Kai Zhang 大丈夫です👍ちゃんと理解できました!

    • @bsbyaa
      @bsbyaa Před 7 lety

      da wn 中国の選手のため、韓国の柳承敏ryu seung minを真似るから、国際試合が出なかった。

    • @kaizhangtabletennis
      @kaizhangtabletennis Před 7 lety

      そうです。王選手はそのため、Bチームに入りました。ちなみに、Bチームのメンバーは国際試合が出ません。

    • @kaizhangtabletennis
      @kaizhangtabletennis Před 7 lety

      平成18年、全国大会のファイナルで出ました。馬琳選手に倒したけど。

  • @makskondr5139
    @makskondr5139 Před 7 lety

    ......

  • @131T3M3
    @131T3M3 Před 5 lety +3

    I see a single RPB.

    • @justaworm605
      @justaworm605 Před 5 lety +1

      Didn't know blind people could watched youtube

  • @christianadriananiceta2753
    @christianadriananiceta2753 Před 7 lety +12

    They should create a separate league with celluloid balls and speed glue...

  • @user-nn2bu5ki9n
    @user-nn2bu5ki9n Před 5 lety +1

    中国だからこれだけの実力持った選手になったんだが、同時に中国選手だったから国際大会には出れず。
    何とも惜しい。
    多分だが若いころのニッペンの時 (ユスンミン選手のコピー選手時代) が一番強かったんだろうな。

  • @kadaya1102
    @kadaya1102 Před rokem

    極權體制底下誕生的影子球員,可悲可嘆…但他甘願犧牲自己、模仿韓國選手打法,成為主力的靶子對手,還是該給予敬佩