Mora Eldris - Is it Worth the Money?
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- Mora Eldris with Accessory Kit
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$41.50 + $36.95 = $78.75CAD
Comes With
Retention strap
Ferrocerium rod
Key Features
Small, light weight
Dual grind blade
Can be inserted into sheath in either direction
Made in Sweden
Specifications
Blade Length: 2.3” / 59mm
Knife Length: 5.6” / 143mm
Blade Thickness: 0.08” / 2mm
Blade Material: 12C27 Stainless Steel
Weight: 2.82oz / 80g
Overall Weight: 4.4oz / 125g
Handle Material: TPE Rubber
Sheath Material: Polymer
Compare with Mora 511 ($16.00)
Blade Length: 3.6" / 91mm
Total Length: 8.11" / 206mm
Blade Thickness: 0.08" / 2.0mm
Net Weight: 3.8 oz. / 109g
I’ve had this for a few years now and has become my most used knife. I’ve used it for everything from camping tasks to kitchen tasks
Glad you enjoy it. I do like the knife. I just feel it is too expensive. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Totally agree with you from a value proposition stand point and purely from a functional standpoint (blade too short for ordinary knife stuff).
Thanks Mark! I thought I knew how to feather stick until I watched this video! Thanks for being such a great teacher. I got the Eldris along with the accessory kit a couple of years ago from my daughters and it’s been a great little knife (though , as you said, limited in what it can do). I found it really comes in handy in winter when my puttering around camp or ice fishingFishing. I find that when I’m wearing lots of layers its easier having a neck knife. Looking forward to the review of the next Mora.
I agree a small knife around my neck in winter is very convenient. Thanks for commenting
Not this one, but the eldris light duty (full scandi grind) is my favorite and by far most used knife. But I especially enjoy how the short but broad blade feels while cutting, carving etc. If you judge it by blade-per-buck, it obviously will not win. For that, Mora makes enough knives in the 10 bucks range like the robust carbon steel or pro series. Or similar off-brand knifes that can be had for 5 bucks or less.
Thanks for pointing out the Light Duty version
Did not know about the light duty version. Thanks for commenting
It is also my favorite. I don't know why they call it «light duty», it is a marketing error (!) For me it is the right knife for the purpose I'm looking for (a small blade with ability to have it around the neck). And the 'nice' full scandi grind will be easier to sharpen.
@@ZarpaQC I think the blade on the "light duty" is slightly skinnier. At least it looked that way then I compared them in the store. But I agree, it is a strange way of marketing it.
@@hmpeter Both have the same steel, same thickness but different grind, may be the blade seem slightly skinnier because the spine is smoother (at least for the fingers 😉) than the regular version of the Eldris, so you cannot use it as a firesteel stricker. For me, it is not a problem because I don't like to use a knike as a stricker, my firesteels have their own stricker, always hooked to them with a little cord.
The Eldris Knife was made as a replacement for Pocket knife that has a fixed blade and can be carried around the neck, it's always supposed to be carried in conjunction with a larger knife. This is the little one, you use for doing a lot of your little camp tasks to keep your main blade/s Sharp. It's my favorite mora knive of all-time. Cleaning fish rabbits even a deer and small carving tasks.
It saves my main blades for bigger harder tasks. Think of it more as a little pocket knife. That's what its intention was.
I like a good honest video for sure so thank you, and a small blade like this isn't for everyone but it definitely has a purpose being so ligh, stainless steel has its benefit over carbon steel at times and everybody's outdoor or EDC is a great combination to have.
Thanks for commenting
It's a small blade. It has the same limitations that all small blades have. It performs all of the tasks that you demonstrated very well for a small blade. I think it's a great blade for what it is. I have used it for years, and it has served me well. I don't carve spoons...
I do like the Eldris but still feel it is more expensive than it should be. Thanks for commenting
I think your review is very fair. I also have this knife and think it is perfect for quick little tasks around the house and out and about. I generally carry it in a perfectly sized pocket in my trousers. But I use other better suited knives for carving and food prep. For detail carving I recently bought and like the Mora 3” Woodcarving Basic Sandvik Stainless Steel Knife With Sheath for about $18USD. And for food prep, I really like the looks and feel of my stainless steel green handled Mora 1000. I know that knife is sharp and I’m the only one who uses it. Our regular kitchen food prep knives are equally or better suited for food prep, but they are often mistreated and never as sharp. :-)
You have some nice Moras.Thanks for commenting
I bought one a few years ago. I liked it so much i purchased another one. It's a good little accessory or companion knife for my other larger belt knives!
Thanks for commenting
I have had this knife for over 2 years with the accessory kit and have used it extensively for bushcraft and hunting. I paid $45 usd for it all and mine also included a belt dangler. I wear an xl glove. I have found the handle to be full and basically perfect in my hand. As a hunting knife I have used it to skin and butcher numerous deer, squirrels,rabbits,fish,and birds. It is an amazing skinning knife and is perfect for removing the loins of deer, in fact the only thing that I found it to short for is cutting traditional steaks. We can most of ours so that’s not really an issue. If I do cut steaks well that’s what a butchers knife is for anyway. As to feather sticks a push cut works just as well you just have to develop another technique like you did with a longer blade. I have found no issues carving anything else including spoons which is something that I did professionally for several years and used this knife the last year I did that almost exclusively. Kuska’s are no problem either and neither are Christmas ornaments or children’s toys. I have basically found no faults with this blade in fact I bought two more with the accessory kits just for the retention straps because yes use them enough and they will occasionally fall out of the sheaths. Hope you all have a great day.
Glad the knife is working for you. Thanks for commenting
Mark you can put the sheath of the eldris on the bottom of the knife so that it gives you a bit longer handle to hold on to.
I can work with the handle length, it is the blade I feel is too short.Thanks for commenting
G'day Mark, thanks for showing it in operation. Its always been the greatest enigma in the "bushcraft knife" world to me. On the one hand, (personally I dont do neck knives, since I like to keep that space open for a compass or small binos), but if one does, yes, its a very small, light weight, dually ground, piece of steel that "can" do various tasks, ..... though on the other, .... why wouldn't cha just go with something else. I certainly wouldn't be paying that dough for it, or far worse, it's "accessory kit,".
At the end of the day, think I just needed another pair of eyes, that I trust, to put it properly in perspective, thanks again mate. Cheers Duke.
I am hear to help😉. Thanks for commenting Duke
It‘s sharp like hell and nice like heaven! I neeeeded it so much. Today it came to me and it makes me feel fine.👍
Thanks for commenting
I received the exact same knife for Christmas also. I agree that it is a nice little knife. I found it to be not as useful as I had hoped. I wore it as a neck knife while kayaking this summer. The sheath was secure and it is a great backup knife. Most reviews are fluffy and tell you that everything is Terrific. Thank you for an honest review
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for commenting
👍 Enjoyed this video.
First let me thank you for introducing me to the Mora 510. Since you released this video Mora has brought this knife back into production and I was able to purchase a new one.
Second, I purchased my Mora Eldris when they were first issued because it reminded me of the knife carried by Otzi the Iceman in general size and shape. People in Otzi’s era depended upon cutting tools for daily existence and I felt if it worked for Otzi (along with a hatchet) it should work for me. I wasn’t wrong in some ways, but was in others.
I am anxious to try my 510 when it arrives.
I do like the Eldris but it is not as useful as I thought it would be and too expensive for what it is. Thanks
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Sadly, that has been my experience as well. Could I live happily if the Eldris was my only knife, of course. Thankfully, I don’t have to. My new Mora 510 arrives in 2 days, thank you again for the introduction.
I would never spend the money on the accessories kits even though there well made. However, I bought the ones I have a couple of years ago for $20 and $26 dollars US. I like mine for making feather sticks and using with Ferro rods. Mora also makes a lightweight version without the point grind of the Eldris. I would have not bought the Eldris for $40 dollars and I see your point about that for sure. I like using a short bade knife for woodcarving, and even though there are better knives for making spoon bowl. It works because it has a short blade. It worked fine for me cleaning a fresh caught trout and a fire to cook it too.
The basic Mora woodcarving model is much like your model 510, with a three-inch stainless blade. It is about the same cost as your 510. I carry my Eldris on a neck loop made with fire cord and put it in one of my shirt pockets with a button flap. Enjoyed your video.
Glad you liked the video. I do like the Eldris but feel it not a high value knife. It can do a lot but not as much as other small knives.Thanks for commenting
Thanks for sharing about this dandy little Mora. I agree with your assessment of it. 👍I might get one someday just for my collection, but it's definitely not something I have an immediate need for. I have several other Mora knives that better suit my needs, anyway. Take good care and Cheers!
Thanks for commenting
You're comparing apples to oranges. The Eldris is a neck knife the 511 is not. For wood carving the Eldris is more nimble than the 511. If you want a longer handle put the sheath on backwards. In the US the 511 is 12$ and the Eldris is 25$ . I personally would not have spent the extra money on the accessory kit so that was your mistake not the knife.
I agree tne Eldris is a nice little knife but I disagree about it being more nimble.Thanks for commenting
Mora classic 1.0 makes a more useful neck knife in my opinion. I own the eldris and several 511's (not to mention about every damn knife that Mora makes 🤣) Great video. Thanks for sharing my friend 🤠
“Put the sheath on backwards” to make the handle longer? I don’t follow. Is there another way to state that?
@@bdmenneput the sheath on the butt end of the knife, instead of covering the blade like normal. It gives you an extended handle. Kinda a cool trick with eldris.
@@shamitoson nice. Didn’t think about it when in use. Lol. Thought you meant Store it upside down. Ouch! That wouldn’t be good. 👍🏼
Mine is in the post and I’m looking forward to getting it 🔪 thanks for the video 😊
Hope you enjoy it! Thanks for commenting
Thank you for this,
I was thinking about getting one next time I'm at Sail but now I'll keep the money as I already have a 511 and many Companions, which work just fine for whittling and do not need a ton of time to re-sharpen.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for commenting
The Eldris has a cuteness factor that cannot be ignored. I decided long ago that it was way too limiting to justify the price and did not get one. However, talking to peopls who like diminutive neck knives, they are all praising the Eldris for the ergonomic handle. Among the vast array of small neck knives, the Eldris simply shines for its handle. I thought your comparison was brilliantly chosen to highlight the hefty price and diminished utility that comes with falling for the cute design. cheers!
I do like the Eldris for the reasons stated but find it hard to justify the price. Thanks for commenting
I have an Eldris in my emergency fire kit simply because it is small and compact, It does the job I got it for and would make the same choice again. It's not a great knife but it fills my needs for a compact emergency fire kit.
Thanks for commenting
Good review Mark , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thanks for watching!
The Eldris blade is small but wicked sharp! I use mine mainly to do leather work. In that area it realy shines. You get close to the material and it cuts like insane 🙂
I too have XL hands and find the handle tiring to use carving wood or such for a longer time but again, for finer tasks such as cutting leather, it is excellent.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
The Eldris is intended as a neck knife, and perhaps as an EDC fixed-blade for places with laws forbidding longer blades. It's obviously not going to be anyone's first choice for serious bushcraft. It probably wouldn't be my first choice for a neck knife, either, but that has more to do with aesthetics than with function.
Thanks for commenting
Good review!
For me, some things aren't better or worse, just different. And you do point that out.
I have a '56 Norse King, a 511, and Eldris. I take a longer blade into the woods but find the Eldris my most useful edc. Plus it drops unseen into a vest or shirt pocket for quick access and doesn't freak out tne general public when in town. Eldris' thin blade went through cardboard for recycling like butter with very little pressure for 2 hrs yesterday and was still pretty sharp. Cuts tape better than a thicker blade too. I've batoned it through smaller work no prob.
Eldris was more money yes, has limitations yes, but it's the first knife I grab most of the time.
I love the stupid little thing!
There is something fun about using this knife even if it is limited in what it can do. Thanks for commenting
Really great overview.
Thanks for commenting
Totally agree, it's just too small, and I only have M/L size hands. Plus I find it a real tricky blade to sharpen, just can't seem to get the right purchase on a stone as I can with a companion, or other longer Scandi blade. Cheers Mark, take care 👍🙂
Right on.Thanks for commenting
Just bought same knife same color but made my own neck knife setup. Haven’t used it much yet. It’s about $25 for knife and $25 accessories kit. ❤
So much less in the US. Thanks for commenting
Just bought an Eldris I plan of 3d printing a lot of parts for it.
Interesting. Would love to see what you come up with. Thanks for commenting
100 percent agree. I bought about 1.5 years ago. Was cheaper but not much. I think I fell into the Hype of having a Mora neck knife. Your right its just too short. For food prep a simple or orange/apple or tomato is just too big. I found while carving I would also run out of blade. I think its a great EDC for simple tasks around home. Would I buy again? No because of the price. The quality is Great. However it once again its just too short. Great Review!
Despite my comments, I do like the knife. It is too costly for what it is.Thanks for commenting
I have the red one. I like it a lot. I have it as part of my fire kit with the firesteel but I ditched the neck cord and attached the firesteel using a custom ZingIt soft shackle. It's fine for making feather sticks and splitting small twigs for the Firebox Nano. I like the compact size and it fits in a small pouch. I also like the Morakniv Kansbol a lot but the Eldris is what I'll actually carry with me.
Great setup. I have a review of the Kansbol coming soon. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft One nice thing about having both knives.. you can use the Kansbol's belt loop with the Eldris.
@@rodoutdoors Good suggestion. I had not though of that
I use my Eldris as a fishing knife in my tackle box . Good for cutting line and gutting fish . Also it doesn't take up much room in my tackle box and its rust resistant.
Great knife for that use. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft thank you !!!! I really enjoy your common sense approach in you videos . They have become some of my favorite to learn from .
I like the “light duty” Eldris. Same thickness but with a normal full Scandi instead of that weird compound grind. I like the Eldris because it’s a nice pocket knife without the extra strap and neck knife stuff. Nice pocketable hiking fixed blade. Cheaper that way too, only $22.
I only recently learned about the light duty version. Thanks for commenting
Just saw the light duty model a few days ago, with that amount of savings, it definitely is much more worth it than the original.
I'd still rather wait and see if any of my Moras ever snap in half, and then "Make" a Eldris out of the leftovers
Thanks Mark. This knife has been on my radar for some time now, but always thought it was a bit expensive for what it was. I do love the Moras, but I think I will give this one a pass. Thanks again, Ben
You may want to add it to your collection if you have some money to burn. Thanks for commenting
Agreed, the accessory kit is a waste of money. I fell for that one too. The LightDuty version is scandi all the way through, better for carving, and cheaper. The basic 511 is one of the best knives out there for the price. You could really put any bushcraft knife up against it and ask, “really? Why would you need that when you can have this for ten bucks?” That said, I think the handle on the eldris is is more comfortable, it has better sheath retention for neck carry, it’s less threatening, and it’s full tang. They’re both great
Thanks for commenting
Well you know I’m always going with the cheapest functional option. Thanks for sharing Mark!
Right on. Thanks for commenting Steve
i got a 511 love it and a few other moras i got a 511 for 11 bucks and a robust from 15 bucks a few years ago i have to agree you get more blade cuts better then a smaller blade like in the eldris
Right on. Thanks for commenting
I have sn old Helle knife, similar overall size, traditional blade grind wood handle over stick tang peened over it came in a plastic lined flat pouch style leather sheath with a flap I've had it so long I've forgotten the model name but I believe the style is known as a Grandfather knife (apologies if I'm wrong) designed to be dropped in a pocket and do things like cutting fruit etc
I need to look for that knife.Thanks for commenting
It is small, maybe too small. For that kind of money I would get a second Garburg. Thanks Mark for the review.
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
I would have kept my Eldris had the blade been 2 cm (3/4 inch) longer. I like my Mora Classic #1 as a necker (hey there Cody!) or even my Mora 106. My Roselli Carpenter is my favorite neck knife though and I too have XXL hands. Thanks Mark for the solid reviews!
I agree and thank you for reminder me to look at the Roselli
Got my Mora Pro S for $20 cad a few weeks ago. A bit of a taller but shorter profile and a 2mm blade. So slicey
Right on. Good buy. Thanks for commenting
I am sorry to hear that the price of these is high in Canada, but in Sweden the price for the whole kit is less than 42 CAD, and that is in my opinion a steal for the quality you receive in this piece of tool. Regarding other knife/tool-steels that are available from those other manufacturers, be they USA-made or Japanese, the Swedish foundries (with the help of Netherlanders) have made formidable tool steel since at least the17:th century. The price of those specialized steels are nowhere in the range of cheap laminated steels that perform equally good, or even better when treated right. I have been using Mora knives my entire life, and I am 53 years old now, and with a little honing I have never had to have them re-sharpened. That in it self must make a case in favor for Mora's.
I have a good number of Moras and do like them all, including this one. Thanks for commenting
Swedish steel 😊. Best steel in the world. Its a really nice knife, but as a back up. Its about half the price here in Sweden
Thanks for commenting
In the same family as the Mora Eldris, Helle make the Mandra. Helle is a very good norwegian company, their products are available in Canada (COEC). The Mandra is not in the same price range as the Eldris, it is also a very good knife. COEC also sell the Mandra as a blank, it is a full tank knife so it make me a very good slim one. You can finish the handle with paracord or with heat shrink tubing to keep the very slim effect. It worth a look! It is a good companion of my Mora Eldris «light duty» (!!). BTW, the «light duty» come in differents colors as the regular one.
I very much like the Mandra and other Helle knives. Hopefully, I will be able to buy one at some point. Thanks for commenting
Bought one about five years ago. Can’t say I’ve used it much - it’s very good at the few things it’s good at, but I’m too much of a “get it done” guy to switch back and forth between my main knife and the Eldris. I always bring it with me, as it weight close to nothing, and I do find myself using it for things like peeling birch bark (you get excellent control compared to a bigger knife), but for the majority of tasks it’s quicker to just “get it done” with whichever knife you’ve already got in your hand. I’m going to start woodcarving, and wanted to try to use it for that purpose, but I’ve got a feeling it might be too wide for that.
I agree. The biggest reason to own this knife is compact, lightweight convenience. Thanks for commenting
This knife was introduced around the same time as the Condor Otzi knife, playing into the hype his gear was getting in the bushcraft community. For what they are, they’re good representations of his small knife. If you’re an expert level bushcrafter, it might be the only knife you’d need, paired with a small axe or hatchet. I am not that bushcrafter, so I prefer to carry my Woodlore clone on my belt, along with an old Helle folder, and a bird and trout knife for my neck carry. The first two take care of my carving and wood processing needs, and the other one does the food and game processing duties.
Well thought out.Thanks for commenting
The Eldris is an excellent knife for what it is intended to be. Comparing it with the other Moras not a fair assessment. As a neck knife it’s an excellent choice.
To be clear, I like the Eldris but feel it is too small for many tasks and too expensive. The comparison was about value. The 511 is a higher value knife that is more capable for less money and not much bigger. Thanks for commenting
I made a retention strap that also had a belt loop and a Ferro rod holder neck or belt siling as well
What I should have done as well. Thanks for commenting
Nice review. Here in Holland (Europe) you can still buy the original 510 for 12 euro but it still has the crappy sheath and there's no stainless version. But a very good knife and easy to clean. I have several of them and forced a patina on the one I use.
I have the Eldris and Eldris LightDuty and I prefer the LightDuty (21 euro).
Where the 510 is a fully functional size knife the Eldris is indeed limited by size. The good thing is it will fit easily in your pocket, haversack, fanny pack, etc.
So when I expect to do a lot of pocket knife size (SAK) tasks but want a stronger knife, easier to clean, can use with gloves on and a bigger thicker handle to prevent hand fatigue is when the Eldris has it's place. Also as a 'just in case' travel knife.
right on. Thanks for commenting
In regards to the "Crap sheath" I found that a small loop of paracord and metal caribeaner made the sheath a whole lot lot more carriable. This is pretty garbage, but at least now you can carry it.
@@J.sh_CDN True. But still the retention is horrible. You can also make a belt loop out of fabric with a (jeans) button. It does make it easier to carry but the retention stays bad.
Thanks Mark
Very welcome. Thanks for commenting
Personally, if I wanted a small fixed blade I'd prefer a small craft line type blade for the nimbleness, either a Mora or Hultafors. If I wanted a stubby blade to feather stick or hammer on a Mora or Hultafors chisel knife is outstanding and all four options are inexpensive. I use a Sheffield made Barlow for the close up work and it has a sharpened spine, carbon steel and it goes out of the way in my pocket when not in use.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
I think as others that said your comparing apples to oranges. All the 511s I’ve seen are carbon steel. Which is fine. I have the Bushcraft Black (C). The Eldris has 12C27 stainless. Admittedly an old stainless steel but still has nice qualities as far as rust resistance. As much as I like my Bushcraft it’s not something I would leave for months on end without examining it for rust. You can do that with an eldris. I personally was looking into the knife to put in a fire kit as a backup striker, and perhaps to make feather sticks. IMO they are two knives made for two entirely different purposes.
This 511 is 12C27 as well. I do like the Eldris but see it as too expensive when compared with other small knives like the 511. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft Not that I doubt you but I’m curious where you got a stainless 511. Everything I have read, even from Mora’s own website states that the 511 is carbon, even the limited editions. As far as there are better neck knives in stainless at Mora’s price point I for one would like to know as I haven’t been able to find one. I have an ESEE izula, but again that is carbon and $60.
Fair Price For A Purpose Built Blade ! Thanks For Your Thoughts On This Mark ! ATB T God Bless
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting Terry
You normally give good reviews but I don’t think you were fair on this review. Yes, the price is high but I like most people think the accessories are way out of line and unnecessary. It’s a good “little” neck knife for doing “little” camp chores.
I agree it is a good little knife, just not worth the asking price.Thanks for commenting
Love my Eldris, the trick to making feathers is to hold the knife like a chisel and use the belly toward the tip.
Good technique. Thanks for commenting
The Mora is a great EDC .
Yes it is. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for saving me money Mark.
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
if you want a longer handle, try putting the sheath over the handle, I have seen that done, but not sure how solid it is
I’ve done that on mine, it works fine. ✌️
I am okay with the handle. It is the blade that is too short.Thanks for commenting
I like Mora Knives but I just don't see what a tiny blade with a handle that needs to be in a sheath can do that a Mora Companion cant do. If I want a small blade, I'm carrying a folding knife.
I agree. Thanks for commenting
Thanks for the video! I have some pre existing biases against it, mostly that i feel its far too overprices, and just a little bit too short.
I liked your alternative option for it, the thin little mora. I have one of those that they put the wood carving blade on, and it works very well for wood carving, and probably would be quite useful for everything else.
Personally, id also look at the Pro series of knives. I think they have some shorter ones, but even the normal pro models are a bit longer thsn the Eldris, and still have a taller blade than the companion. Cutting one of those to a near Eldris side, trimmming the bsck handle a little bit and maybe shortening the sheath would make a knife that is much cheaper than the Eldris, and more useful in my opinion
The nice think about Mora is the range in prices. There is something for every budget. Thanks for commenting
It's $28 in the US, $43 with the kit. That makes it a little more reasonable. But in Canada it's too expensive, I agree. I like the Light Duty version for only $23. You can get more knife for the money from Mora, but it's handy to have a hand filling, but little, fixed blade that will drop into you coat pocket, or even your pants pocket, if you don't want it around your neck or on the belt. I think there's a place for it.
Thanks for commenting
I really like the Eldris I don’t find it that overly expensive. It’s a great little back up knife. Not getting your comparison to the 511. Both are good knives for their intended purpose.
My comparison is about value and functionality. I like the Eldris but the 511 is a better value.Thanks for commenting
I used mine for skinning and food prep ive done some carving but i do more hunting amd fishing than i do anything also they're alot more affordable in the U.S.
I agree it is a great little knife but too costly, at least here in Canada. Thanks for commenting
For me, the appropriate use of the Eldris is for the numerous little cutting tasks that arise around the house, the yard, and the camp site. I see it and use it as I would a small traditional folder, but with the advantages of the strength of a fixed blade and a much more hand-filling, ergonomic handle. It's around my neck, making it easy to access, make a quick cut, and return to its sheath. Also, I paid about $20 USD for mine and would absolutely never have got it at the prices you're naming. I mean, YIKES! As a carver/whittler, I actually prefer it to my 511, because the handle is so much more ergonomic. Morakniv has some carving knives that have, to your point, more narrow blades and more acute tips. They would do well to put those on an Eldris handle.
G'day again Charles, good to "see" ya over here on Mark's channel, ...... he certainly deserves more input and subscribers IMO.
Yep I reckon if you go with this one, 20 to 25 -ish USD is about right.
Must say, I'm very happy with Mora's 105, 164 and a SS Companion for a small light weight, cost effective, carving kit, (I generally do spoons and other camp utensils). And incidentally, I found an old pliable leather nail bag with a broken strap, turned it into a small kit roll for these 3, + a sharpening stone.
Main reason I mention them though, is I went for the 105 carver because of the chunkier, ergo, handle, + a bit of sculptured sanding is possible to suit if need be, the ol' boiled linseed oil treatment, even better, ...... alas .... to my knowledge, ..... there's no SS version for it....... and sure why not go with well contoured man made materials, .... if memory serves, Mora did do a black, something or other, poly handled, carving job, back in the day, ...... but bloody 'ell, missed out on that one.
Mate, ... I reckon we need to go into business together ; )
I agree, it does have some great features and I do like it. It is just the price and the fact that it is not a good carver that I can't recommend it over other higher value knives. Thanks for commenting
@@eyeofthetiger4184 Hey Duke! Yup, I love Mark's content. Came across him while looking around for camp stove options and got reeled in. Mora did make a synthetic handled carver at one point and you're right - missed that boat. Oh well. I suspect they'll eventually bring something comparable or better around.
@@charlescollier7217 Haha, yep Mark is quite a stove guy. What did you end up going with ?
@@eyeofthetiger4184 I was VERY impresed with the Picogrill 85. Ended up getting it AND the 398. Absolutely brilliant designs!
Just get a decent folding knife as a backup to your belt knife. It'll do everything the Eldris can, plus it's easier to carry.
Right on. Thanks for commenting
Ones a neck knife the other is not. For wood working it's far superior to the 511. It's also not a $70 knife. You decided to buy the extra stuff. The knife is $41. The 511 is a great knife, but they are different knives for different tasks
What you say is true; however, I feel the small size and light weight of the 511 allows it to be carried as a neck knife. I do like the Eldris but just feel it is too expensive. Thanks for commenting
I'd like to see them make this handle offered in various blade lengths.
Interesting idea. Thanks for commenting
Nice neck knife. I don't need the ferro. You can get good ones from Bayite. Retention strap and paracord as you said make your own. Is it a Kansbol ? No. I have large hands (2X gloves) , I'm in the US.
You wanna talk expensive? Buy Zippo lighter fluid. $1 an ounce here. Put it in a Zippo and its gone in 2 days in the the heat here in TN. At least the Eldris won't evaporate.
You can put a pinky fob on the Eldris to help with grip. I've seen other videos where younger guys took the Eldris out and I was amazed at what they could do with knives this small including the ESEE Izula. I say "younger" because I'm over 55 😂
I agree. I think I could do just about anything with this knife. Very much like with a good size pocket knife. Just too much money here. BTW, to me you are younger😉 Thanks for commenting
I have a small Mora knife that looks similar to this one that I purchased on clearance for about $10 US. I am not certain it is this exact knife, but it looks like it. For $10, I feel my knife was well worth the money. For what you had to pay, there are definitely better values out there!
I don't know how knives are viewed by law enforcement in Canada, but for US federal law enforcement blade length is a factor used to determine if a knife can produce a fatal stab to the abdomen. Please don't quote me on this, but I _think_ that the blade length on the Eldris is less than what would be considered a fatal threat.
Hi John. Canadian knife laws do not specify length. It is more about context, where you are, what you are doing and what you are carrying that could constitute a crime. Having said that, there are types of knives specifically prohibited like switchblades and butterfly styles. Thanks for commenting
Try using the Eldridge sheath as a handle extension, it snaps right on.
Good idea. Thanks for commenting
To me that knife would be useful in field dressing game
It could probably used for that.Thanks for commenting
You should try the Helle Nying! It's a small knife not unlike the Eldris, but a much better knife!
It looks a bit starge, but I think it will suprise you. I am Norwegian and maby a bit bias, but I think it is a better knife with a simmilar form faktor.
Thank you for sharing!
I have ben looking at that. It is a bit different looking but interesting as well. Thanks for commenting
I bought this Knife yesterday for about 30€ in Europe/Austria to do my Hobby "Hand Drill Fire" and it will be great i am very sure.
PS: I still own a different Version of this Mora Eldris (Light Duty) but the Spine was'nt sharp -> It has a smooth Back!!! 😑👎
I only recently became aware of the Eldris light duty version. Not sure if I will buy one or not. Thanks for commenting
Yikes! Had no idea the Eldris was so expensive in Canada! I had been looking at them for years and often joked that if I were shucking shellfish that I'd probably get one. I eventually gave in to peer pressure as it seemed everyone I knew had one and were gushing about their utility even though a small knife. I forget what I paid for my mine back in 2019 when I bought it. Think it was in the 30-40 dollar range. Just checked it on Amazon today and the knife with kit is listing for about $45 so your prices seem quite inflated. Would I buy it again for $45? Probably not. I like it as an unobtrusive, non threatening neck knife should I choose to wear it outside my clothing. In fact, someone once saw it when I was hiking in Maine and thought it odd that I was carrying a duck call. ;-) A couple of suggestions for you about the knife. I have found that if you take the knife from its sheath and then reinsert the knife into the sheath butt first that the sheath passes as a passable handle extension. As for making feather sticks I have found it a better option, given the shortness of the blade, to stick the tip well into a stump and draw your feather stick across the edge of the stationary knife. One can, of course, place their off hand on the knife's butt to give it a bit more stability while doing so. All in all, it is a little knife and we would all do well to remember the old adage that a big knife can do small knife tasks, but a small knife can't do large knife tasks. That said one can certainly use a small knife to create some simple tools to perform larger tasks that a bigger knife is better at, but one is creating more work for themselves. As you mention it does not really do much in the way of food prep, but then I always have a folder with a larger blade that has a far better grind for such things. But $78 Canadian dollars for an Eldris!??! Way too much! I think it's overpriced at $45 for what it is. I'm currently eyeballing the Victorinox fixed blade that was recently released. Even their pro kit option is only about $120 while their regular version is about the price of what the Eldris cost you, but you're getting a lot more knife for your money. As always, great content Mark and I have to say I really enjoy your mix of product reviews and keto recipes you prep in the woods.
I hope to get the new Victorinox as well. Thanks for commenting
I've been eyeing the Victorinox Venture as well, cheaper than a Garberg, same steel and a grind I find more universally useful. My only worry will be durability, maybe ill wait and see how the first batch does first before buying one
The condor neonecker is a good compromise between size and use. About $70 US.
Will take a look. Thanks for commenting
You could have got a Venture By Victornox for that cost I got a Companion by Morra Knife 14 US
Everything costs more in Canada. Thanks for commenting
Honesty i just bought one of those, i feel like it would be way better blade for a foling knife than a fixed blade, givin the size
I agree. Thanks for commenting
I only wish mora would drop the price of the eldris as it is a great scout’s bushcraft knife ideal knife for small hands with not the same chance of scouts trying to use blade to get purchase on tip end cuts
That would be nice. The 511 is a good model for smaller hands and very inexpensive. Thanks for commenting
those prices are ridiculous.
where i live you can get this with the accessories for 40 euros, or without it for 30.
they also have an eldris 'light duty' version for 20 euros. it has a 2mm blade without the funky grind.
seems like something one might take along as a companion to a larger knife for bush crafting type use.
seems the biggest advantage to the shape and size might lie in carving out spoons and bowls and that kinda thing
where a larger knife might be precarious.
I do like the knife but find it hard to justify the cost here. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft yeah i run into the same thing with american made products over here.
postage and taxes have really taken the fun out of shopping abroad...
Hello Mark I've found the Helle Knife it's model name is Nying it now has a short dangler sheath the price I've seen quoted is in Euros it's €99.90 now all you have to do if still interested is find an importer for Canada atb Bill
Just looked the Nying up. Cost about 160CAD. Thanks for commenting
@MarkYoungBushcraft OUCH yes indeed Helle knifes are not for the ordinary working Joe they're what Mora users aspire to, mind you my one I must have purchased it over 40 years ago I actually thought it had been discontinued atb Bill
It's a nice little knife I use mine a lot bit it's massively over priced.
Great review and agree not worth the price plenty of other options.
I agree. I do like it but not at this price. Thanks for commenting
I've seen more than one neck knife get snagged in the webbing of gill nets doing speed sets have had an obversion to them ever since
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problems I have with the Eldris is its too expensive for what it is, to short for a belt knife, to thick in the grip for a neck knife. its not a good general purpose knife and there are better choices for small neck knives.
I agree. Thanks for commenting
mora 510 is an icon
I agree. Thanks for commenting
Personal comfort and preference are very important. Overpriced? To me, yes.
I do like it but it is just not worth the money. Thanks for commenting
I paid just $26 for my Eldris. Are you using Canadian dollars?
Yes, and I gave the link where I bought it.
There’s a video of a guy using exact same knife and he absolutely shreds with it. In your hands it looks like a toy…. Is that the knife? Or the user? 😅
Probably a combination of both. I have XL to XXL hands. It is a good little knife for many tasks but is more costly than it needs to be. Thanks for commenting
I just got one on Amazon for $22 US. Unless it literally breaks, I can’t see how $22 for a knife as neat as this isn’t great deal.
Better price than I can buy it for in Canada. Thanks for commenting
Wish I didn't pick it up a few years ago because I was not impressed particularly as a carving knife. Blade is too wide, steel not great for carving, and the handle is too bulbous for carrying.
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Thanks for commenting
Disappointed with your review.
The Eldris is designed as a companion knife to compliment something like the Garberg.
Yes, I agree the ferro rod/retention strap is a waste of money but without that the Eldris is good value.
You are welcome to your opinion. I do like the Eldris but still feel it is not as versatile as a slightly larger knife would be and not worth the price we pay for it in Canada. Thanks for commenting
Tbh the eldris feels like a glorified ferrocerium scraper. The narrower blade on the 511/510 is way better for carving
I agree. Thanks for commenting
Boy that review seemed picky, clear you’d made up your mind at start. Great small knife.
It was picky and yes my mind was made up by the time I made the video. I bought the knife hoping to like it more than I do. I still do like the knife but I don't think it is worth the money. Thanks for commenting
I don't think you should compare a belt knife with a neck knife.
Thanks for commenting
The handle and blades seem both too short
They are quite short. Thanks for commenting
It's cheaper in the states. I thought it was worth it for my purposes.
Always is. Thanks for commenting
You are comparing apple with pears. It’s a small knife of a great quality period. So don’t compare it with a larger/ bigger knife .
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Love all my moras but I’ve never understood this knife. Totally unusable.
It has its appeal and I do like it but don't use it often and it is too expensive for what you get. Thanks for commenting
Nope 👎,,,my Companion Carbon will do the same job and more,,,if I want short knife I will cut Mora Companion in half and reshape it however I please…Eldris is like $50 CDN pesos or more,,so why bother???
Had not considered cutting a knife in half. Thanks for commenting
Mora isn't anymore a value or a budget friendly option from a long time ago. The prices for their new line - Cheapest Wood Handles and Recycled Steel - are simply insulting. They wanna go Woke, they can do it without my money.
Last I checked they still sell all of their basic models at incredibly low prices.
@@chriskp Hultafors, Marttiini, Terava, Joker, much better options. The 4mm Bahco 2449 cost me less than Mora 2000.
Mora's new line is out of range but their craftsman line is still a good vale.Thanks for commenting
the corner shop can add a bottle of vintage champagne to it’s liquor aisle. You’re allowed to think the champagne is overpriced and say the champagne at the big box store down the road is better value, but that does not negate the low prices and good value of all the other items in the store.
@@chriskp Not when the customers asked for that champagne and inspired it... We were asking and pushing Mora for a Full Tang - Classical Looking - Bushcraft Knife, for years. If the developed the Bushcraft Black, it's also due to the community who pushed for a carbon steel, thicker blade and 90° spine... And now when they finally did it, they want to take advantage of their customers, by selling them a 80$ mediocre knife with 260$. Feel free to buy as many as you want. If I can't have their nice "champagne" at a reasonable-fair price, I don't need their cheaper* stuff either.
And now try Fallkniven Scout : D
Would be nice to have one. Thanks for commenting