Rampart Rider DVD -- RawHyde Adventure's Off-Road Riding Clinic, Colorado
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- This training DVD features RawHyde Adventure's Off-Road Riding Clinic from September 13, 2012, sponsored by BMW of Denver & RampartRider.com. It is 1hr40min in duration and features the training commentary from brothers, Shawn and Lance Thomas, in The Classroom and on The Course. The Classroom section includes The Top Five Mistakes Off-Road Riders Make and a Question and Answer period. The Course exhibits four exercises, Drill 1 -- Ride Standing; Drill 2 -- Slow Speed Balance & Control; Drill 3 -- Trail Stops; Drill 4 -- Turning Technique, as well as Lifting the Bike. Each participant in the clinic is featured practicing their technique. The instructors share with each individual what they are doing correctly and incorrectly motivating a great training experience to learn from and noted by a few students in testimonials interspersed throughout. To order your copy on DVD, contact us today!
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My buddies and I have each watched this video several times over the years. At one point, I took some notes, which might help some of you. I could have used the info in Drill #12 last weekend when I hit some deep, loose silt near Gypsum, Colo.
TOP 5 CHALLENGES FOR STREET RIDERS
* Know the rules. How far can you lean? How hard can you hit brakes? How long to stop? Knowing this stuff will relax you. Not knowing makes you tense. Tension hurts riding ability, can make you fall.
* Stand on pegs. Lowers center of gravity. Gives you more control, balance. Stay on balls of feet, not arches.
* Avoid target fixation. There are many, many distractions off road. Look where you want to go.
* Don't counter-steer. Counter-balance. Weight is always on outside of turn.
* Don't lock the front brakes. (Turn off ABS when appropriate.)
DRILLS
* Consider removing luggage, windshield, mirrors and turn signals to prevent damage in falls.
* Adjustments: Handlebars so arms are comfortable, relaxed. Raise/lower pegs. Bend "ear" on the brake pedal for better access to rear brake. Reduce tire pressure to 20 lbs for off-road.
Drill 1: Ride standing on pegs. Light grip. On balls of feet. Grip seat or tank with legs if necessary. Look at least 50 feet ahead. Relax and get comfortable. Posture: Lean forward when climbing; lean back when descending. Torso should be perpendicular to ground.
Drill 2: Swing leg over seat while riding to bring all weight to one side. Start with one leg on seat. Then bring it all the way around. Counter-balance with pressure on opposite handlebar. Relax. Cover clutch with two fingers.
Drill 3: Pick up a fallen bike.
Drill 4. Learn the friction zone where clutch engages. Stand next to bike and walk it using only clutch to keep it moving and control speed.
Drill 5: Slow speed balance and control. Stand on pegs and go as slowly as possible -- speed of a walker. Don't look down. Look ahead 40-50 feet. Feel balance in feet. Stay on balls of feet. Light grip on bars. Let knees press against seat. Use friction zone of clutch to modulate speed.
Drill 6: Trail stop. Come to a full stop, standing on pegs, without putting feet down. Use rear brake only. Lean against tank with left leg. Keep head up looking forward.
Drill 7: Rear-wheel skids. Keep correct body position and control. Arms fully extended, but not locked. Head up. Locking rear wheel is OK on dirt vs. on street. Drill is used to make rider comfortable with the skid, which will occur occasionally, and which is sometimes used for things such as initiating turns.
Drill 8: Front brake friction. Find the point at which the front brake locks, then back off. Involves several passes. On first pass, start at around 7 MPH and come to abrupt stop using front brake WITHOUT locking the brake. Keep head up, butt back, on toes. On second pass, hit brake harder. Develop a sense of the feel of the maximum front-brake stopping power by finding the point at which the front brake locks, then let off. Goal is to know where that point exists.
Drill 9: Turn execution. Execute clean, tight 180-degree turn in dirt. Stand on pegs. Shoulders parallel to bars. Elbows slightly out. Turn bars. Use counter-balancing, not counter-steering. Shift ALL weight to outside peg. You may lift leg off inside peg, by bracing outside knee against seat. Butt outside. Look at exit point.
Drill 10: Steep down hill. Assess hill. Look for potential bailout point. Get friction on brake before beginning. Focus on bottom of hill. Head up. Maintain steady slow speed with full control, no skidding. All brakes engaged. ABS off.
Drill 11: Restart on a hill. Get bike moving after stopping on an uphill. Engage clutch with a little throttle with brake on. Let off brake so clutch is holding bike in place. Release clutch slowly, with not much more throttle.
Drill 12: Sand. You can go slow and dog paddle with feet down through heavy sand, but if you want to move quickly with your feet up, you need to have faith and commit to speed. Let bike go where it wants. Weight back to lighten front wheel. Control bike with feet, not handle bar. Relaxed grip, head up. Steer by shifting weight. Don't fight the front wheel. Stay on power. Will act like a boat when you let off the throttle. Bike will not track straight. It will dance, and behave differently in different types of sand.
Drill 13. Turning on steep uphill. Engine is off. Keep foot on rear brake. Turn handlebar to left. Open clutch to allow bike to move. Keep rear brake on. Lean bike into hill. Ease off rear brake. Move 6 inches at a time. Let clutch out to move pivot foot. Once perpendicular to the fall line, saw handlebars back and forth to inch the front of bike till it points downhill. Coast down hill without engine.
Thanks everyone for the very kind words... This was a very fun clinic, I am very happy Rampart Rider took the time to film it. In 10 years working in the Adventure world, I have met some very cool people, and this group was a prime example. Thanks again! -Shawn Thomas
Thankyou from downunder. I recently bought a 1150 GS Adventure. Great on the road but after a week on the dirt I,d had enough. Fed up with picking myself up. Watched the video then went out each day and practiced a new skill. I,m hooked now. Thanks again guys.
guys... thank you soo much for this video. you are awesome!
Helpful video with good tips. Thanks for putting it out there.
I had a lot of fun watching this and then going out onto our gravel driveway and trying some of the exercizes on my little Triumph Street Scrambler .. Loved the stop & go thing standing .. Will give the slamon thing a try on a farm trail I know near by .. I loved the weight change thing a ton .. Thanks for the fun .. If I had a plane ticket and the $2000.00 to do it I would come for the beginers class in Cali .. If I had 25k to get a 1200gs I would do that as well .. All the best , Guy
Why, oh why, did I watch this in the middle of an Ohio winter?? Excellent video, excellent course, excellent instruction - really makes me want to join these guys for training soon!
Very good and motivating instructors!!!
Thank you for sharing your tips and teaching method, I will have to get out and do some more practice. Lots of outback tracks to explore in AUSTRALIA.
Great video. Just purchased vstrom 650xt had a short ride off road had no idea and really nervous. Your video has given me some real basics to work on Thanks guys. New Zealand
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Excellent video, thanks guys!!
Proper bike set-up, good posture, relaxed muscles, weight on balls/toes of feet, weight to the outside when turning, weight back when stopping, weight forward when starting, weight forward up hill, weight backwards down hill, front brake not enemy. Boom.
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Great video. Thanks guys. Did the wild atlantic way (3500 Km) last summer and really could have done with some of your techniques.
Great wisdom guys. I have had all kinds of bikes in my life including a couple DRZ-400's, Husky TE510 and even a big Harley Road King Classic. None of this prepared me for riding a big adventure bike (2013 R1200GSW). It was as if I had to learn all over. I will say that this type of riding is more addictive than any of the others I have done. Videos like this have helped me immensely. Thanks!
Excellent video, to know the right possition, and more tips, I will practice to do this excersices nice, the explanations are clear and also the English it;s pretty clear, I guess is one of the best video to learn how to handle a trial motorcycle, also watch all the participants give you a big chance to learn, gracias amigos
Great video and clinic guys. . Now I really miss my 1200GSA as I'm in Korea working my bike is in Australia. ..damn! !
Great video guys, very helpful!
Shawn and Lance brothers, you should go to heaven! ( if there's one)
This is an awesome instruction, I watched all other BMW gs videos , you contribute a lot to this motorcycle world!
BMW motorrad bless you :-)
Excelente video,thank you very much for sharing!
Hey guys really useful tips for helping build confidence for off road riding and well presented...great job ;-)
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Great video. I'm learning to ride on dirt myself and would really enjoy taking a class like this if I could get the chance. ADV riding and touring is awesome
Guys you are awesome to share this. Cannot thank you enough!
Rad class man !
This class looks like it would be a lot of fun
Thanks a lot I 've just bought 200NS BAJAJ, YOUR STIPS WERE so HELPFUL and I wish I could to thank you personally, you are the best, my name is modo from Cairo, Egypt
+Hamada Prince Thats a tiny bike compared to an 1200 adventure bike 0.o
You right but this bike is my first one, after couple years I am going to upgrade.
Very informative! Thanks for posting. 🙏🏻
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Really great job thankyou.
jimonabuell Western Australia.
Wow, I learned so much
Great job guys, I am self taught with over 25 years riding experience riding on and off the road, found many of your off road techniques you teach that I already do after years of experience. If there is one thing that I would tell any newer rider for particle advice that will save your butt, brake early, especially on one of these nimble but also heavy bikes! Oh and never relax, when you ride ride hard and serious, especially in the dirt, almost every crash and or stuff comes when you relax and you head is not in the game>
Love you.
Great video!! (new attempt for my comment as the one i was working vanished). I am at the virge of buying a R1200GS Adventure. But still wrestling with the choice between the GS or a S1000XR both fab bikes but also very different. Watching the video def strengthned my wish to explore the possibilities of offroading. One downside is however i live in Holland and my country is likely to fit in the "playground" this acadamy has in Colorado. Thats not a problem in itself but we also have 17.000.000 people living here!! so i fear we dont have all that much off road options. But since the GS is also a great tourer i think that's gonna win... I will def be keeping a close watch on these video's because i would love to go out there on the bike. And who knows maybe i get to visit Colorado at some point... so good stuff guys keep it up!!
I’ve just found this video and would like to thank you very much for sharing this video with other off road beginners. I just started with adv bikes and was so happy to find this lessons on CZcams.I will practice your advice.
By the way do you still provide lessons?
Happy New Year!!!!!
I can't believe that this is free! Fantastic video!
Verry good video
that instructor has WAYYYYY too much fun at his job
I wanna learn from that guy really badly!
This is just awesome, thanks for a in depth tutorial and practical demos. Going out today and practice these drills. Cheers from Australia mate.
i have done a lot of dirt riding on 140cc 2strokes (suzuki shaolin, shogun)
maybe someday i will try a heavy adventure sport bike.
inspiring video.
I wouldn't go from a 140cc 2 stroke to a 1200 BMW, that's for sure! You should try riding the Yamaha WR 400 or it's equivalent rather soon. You'll love it. www.yamahamotorsports.com/cross-country/models/2016/wr450f
watched this in 2019. still good :-)
I gotta say, those are some neat bikes. I kinda actually prefer these kind of bikes than those sport bikes that go fast on the streets...cos with these bikes, you can go anywhere you want to go. Nice.
You can do the same with a endero dirt bike
@@dukedashwolfgg2283 yes but then you sacrifice highway riding
@@georgestem2039 dirt bikes can do all of them
Hey Lance this is great stuff! I remember you said you were practicing so much. These fundamentals of motorcycle riding also similar skill sets much like professional horseback riding. From Sarah your ole neighbor!
The long lines, how much waiting is involved for the price?
This video is worth a thousand dollars that shares the best tips on off-roading heavy bikes. Thanks for sharing this video, the question I have is with so many riders registered for this session, do they all get to complete the class as scheduled or would they have to come back to make sure they passed all levels?
Very informative & thank you for the encouraging email reply, Shawn. Guess I have to sign up for the course.
That KTM 990 sounds awesome.
this is going on suzuki van van groups in social media
Feels exciting riding this extremely huge bikes
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does anybody know if that cornering technique should be used at low speed only or both highand low speed offroad?
i lost it when you said balance comes from the legs ...
Great vid!
Props for taking the Streetbike F800R in the dirt! (e.g. 1:36:25 )
Happy New Year (2021) from northeastern Minnesota! Great info! Where fan I get a tee shirt like these?
just enjoy the day
I want a GSA
Very useful and supportive video. I am from Vietnam, where off road riding is at dawn time. I would love to add Vietnamese subtitle to the video. If it is acceptable, could you please enabled the option community contribution on the video. That would be so grateful, and we would thank you alot.
but like how was i fine on a bike that i saw in this video, the honda xr bike, doing absolutely none of these...sitting down on the bike, leaning into a corner, etc on gravel, large stones, dirt, and grass... very confused. i was also ripping it..
I fell making a U turn on a steep street. What's the right way to do that, or should I avoid doing that?
What happen if i ride a big trail with linked breaking and i want to lock the rear tire?
actually, the answer is at the minute 36... i'm searching the whole internet for this answer and here it is.. THANKS YOU!
I think , This is 〝Trial basically technique〟. But Rally raid moto is looks heavy.
Shawn!!!
What if you ride a KTM instead of a Beemer? Can we still take the class?
There was a person with a KTM in that class.
More look at those BMWs the more I am starting to like them.. Now there's something I thought I would not say...
Oh one qeustion did pop up watching this video... The slow ride training in 1st gear working with the clutch.. doesnt that wear the clutch down very quickly?? Maybe a stupid question but i remember a long long time ago when i took my driving lessons slipping your clutch was a big NO... NO.. now i assume the GS being an all terrain bike has a stronger clutch but still?? any one an idea on that? Thanks in advance ;)
It's perfectly fine for the clutch. Watch any videos about slow manuevers on the street they will say it's fine as long as it's not excessive for a long time. Just have to give it a little bit of time to cool down.
Some of these bikes are so damn heavy and it often is on an incline when one is tired or even in pain for whatever reason ...someone REALLY needs to invent or develop some lifting aids...I keep thinking some type of spring loaded affair that locks with each increment of extension so that you can grunt it up an inch at a time etc and it cant fall back down ....any amount you can budge it towards being upright is captured and locked in if that makes sense......this type of system would be much lighter than anything that actually uses battery /motor power to lift a downed bike....another way obviously would be some type of jacking system with a lever that lifts it just a little with ever pump of a handle....another method might involve threads where you keep turning a threaded male/female affair....there just HAS to be an answer to this problem other than using one's back ....which I mean it might SEEM entirely reasonable to simply lift them up but like I say big difference between a reasonably level surface and one where you drop the damn thing on a badly rutted incline.
falicitate??
Lol the chick at 47:32 was doubting herself, turned out to be the best one at that lesson.
I like Felicitating.
Do you have to have a BMW to take this Clinic? I ride an MZ Baghira and I love my MZ, so I'd want to ride that.
Thanks for the tip on using more front brake on downhill. I've easily locked up the rear in this situation and now I know why.
Nope, as you should have seen in the video there were verseys ktms and even a sport bike.
Like that KTM
Love the passion and enthusiasm. But camera B framed those porta jons in the shot haha
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never get a beemer.. if your clutch handle breaks it like 500 bucks to replace.. and it prolly take 4hrs to change the oil..
The bmw boxer oil changes are actually very quick and it uses the same filter wrench as my Toyota pickup
amazing... perhaps too many students, but very useful content.
Doctorate in V2 Panigale
Aside from the BMW koolaid (in most peoples opinions, KTMs are unquestionably better for off road), this is one of the best (if not the best) training videos that I have seen.
51:46 that bike sounded cool. Just like old royal Enfields here
I did one of these clinics. They're for noobs.
Never stand straight up and lock your knees. Terrible advice. Take an athletic stance and grip the tank with your knees. Bar risers change the geometry of the front end and will alter how the bike responds to Rider input on the handlebars. Be aware of this and become familiar with how the bike reacts after risers are installed.
Ktm 1190 adveture R is a better offroadbike
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I do agree with this statement as an owner of an R1200GSW. The KTM has the edge off road, but the BMW wins on the street, especially at highway speeds. One thing good about the BMW off road if the engine and crash bars do protect your legs if you lay down. The KTM seems more like a dirt bike off road and does very well on the street as well. I suppose if I were 70% off road I would be riding a KTM. I am 70% tarmac.
Paris to Dakar = KTM. Real life = R1200 GS. 70% or so tarmac here also. In unforgiving Arizona.
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"Off-Road Riding Clinic", rider academy ... wow.
Lol pinch your knees to the tank and throttle it out haha
this is what happens when you don't get proper driving lessons... these elderly people cant even drive at walking paste at steady revs... its one of the first things you learn at driving school, guess that's America in a nutschell.
Cant stand when hes yelling.. but otherwise good job.
Wow.....people starting to ride at late age....sounds dangerous.....just like new Harley riders..
they wreck
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Riding school off road? That’s called growing up on a dirt bike . Who the f@“& pays for this nonsense
Very boring class. I have been required by state law to take such classes for motorcycles and four wheelers. After they gave the boring speech I showed them how to really ride.
Superb.
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Omg.
Thank you for sharing your tips and teaching method, I will have to get out and do some more practice. Lots of outback tracks to explore in AUSTRALIA.
from Canada :
I've always believed, that somehow.....someway....OZ was good for something.....
-Did you say clear roads 365/12 and beaches ?
thx: CS
Great video guys, very helpful!
I gotta say, those are some neat bikes. I kinda actually prefer these kind of bikes than those sport bikes that go fast on the streets...cos with these bikes, you can go anywhere you want to go. Nice.