I guess if they would add some of this stuff to the stock bike sSuzuki would go up in all the tests of the major outlets which would result in higher sale numbers. The strange thing is that the new Suzukis are almost as expensive as a new CR-F in europe.
I don’t think a lot of people understand who this product is for. This is not for C, B, or even a lot of A riders. This is for privateers who are looking to stay competitive in the super/motocross scene. It’s expensive, but that’s just what it costs for the performance that these guys need. Some of the tops ends on factory bikes only last 6-7 hours. Any bike I own would need to last at least 150 hours if not more. This product isn’t for me, but there’s a market for it and it’s cool that a factory team is producing this stuff for anyone to buy if they have the cash for it
Thats why me and most of us do it for fun. Different to say if yor heading pro then you need shit loads of money if you want to compete. Sorry for my english.
Adjusting air/fuel ratios on your phone, for your dirt bike. God damn, idk if anyone heard this dude when he was talking but that’s remarkable. I’m blown away, seriously that’s fucking awesome.
Definitely cool ,just do a oil spring kit on suspension aswell that'll boost my confidence in that suspension , because my experience with air forks is crashing into a corner on the air chamber side where if I corner on the oil side it doesn't bottom out and it doe not freaking fail! I nearly killed my little brother on crappy air forks
Yeah no doubt your products are Amazing and all that But how many everyday consumers can use the full potential of even the 250. These bikes are more than 90% of people can handle as they are. Nice gear though 👌
This is for an expert or pro rider.suzuki does have a good contingency program.so these kits in the hands of an a rider could make him more money.some amateur races have holeshot bonus for the pro classes so a few more h.p will help to the first turn.
Without suspension work you are already looking at a 11800 dollar price tag. I would like to see a comparison between a KTM / Husky with pipe and stock ECU vs the Suzuki with JGR kit.
The JGR kit would smoke it as long as the rider is up to par...these are factory level engine modifications that you actually get the chance to purchase. Pretty cool...too bad JGR is under now...
Motocross is unaffordable to the regular person these days I work a decent job but will all my Bill's and everything else I camt even afford to get a bike let alone a top end kit for 4300 dollars this is sad i want to get back on a bike so bad but how buy a used clapped 05 450 that will blow up in a year and then have to spend 3 to 4g to rebuild the motor I can rebuild a 350 v8 for half the price so what the hell is going on here
Dude get a decent used 2 stroke, watch your air filter, screen your gas, WARM UP your bike before hammer time & get lots of ya ya s out of it.right after new years day is the time to buy.people are swamped w/ bills & not riding ..good hunting!
3-4k to build a 450 back? Da fuk? I build 4 stroke motors every day Re-Build it yourself and get just what you need. The shop i co-own only charges about 1200 for a full rebuild for a 450r/f. You can go get a craigslist bike and run it til it locks, spend 1200-1500 shop or do it yourself for about 650 with a kit or just get a new crank and rod assembly and some new rings for 260. Re-Hone your own cylinders, Get a set of valves and buy a cheap ne-way cutter you can use over and over again for years for valve seats when you replace valves once every few years. This is all easy stuff you can do in your garage. And dont tell me you cant make it happen at those prices because I do it every single day.
4 strokes are not expensive to repair, people just like to replace way to many parts even if they are still good. I just bought a piston kit, all top end head gaskets, and all valve seals for 150$ bucks for a 13 rmz 250
Everyone knows they have...but they are bringing products to tye market...previosly yoshimura was the only supplier of performance Suzuki parts ...so it does help the end user with choice
holy f%$#! it used to cost 50 bucks for piston and rings back in the day. good god it's a rich man's sport now and that really sucks. you used to be able to go racing on the weekend for about a hundred bucks. this is just ridiculous.
Yeah it's a lot of money, especially considering this was always a young man's sport. I'm into dragracing now that I'm older and this is cheap in comparison. Always two ways to look at it I guess. Motocross was the last of the cheaper motorsports to get into but now you have to have a rich mommy and daddy to get to the top level.
On a 450 there are ONLY a handful of skilled riders who use or can hold on to the stock bike as it is. No need to spend money on more power....use the money for tires, chain&sprockets,j suspension work etc..... 250..... That might be a different story.... However making them too fast only causes Dubai
It’s worth it if you’re a privateer racing on the big stage. For the regular joe who spins a few laps then comes in for a smoke break and to chug a beer, this isn’t for you.
This would be the biggest waste of money. Anyone that thinks this will make them a better rider, doesn’t ride enough. A pair of running shoes would be more beneficial. A stock bike with correct suspension settings, fresh tires, clean filters, proper chain adjustment and in great condition matter way more. Need proof? Stewart and Carmichael were still on two strokes while most of the guys were on four strokes that cost more than a land cruiser, outcome...they destroyed them. This game is about the rider.
Andrew Ewing so you saw a picture of an older ktm broken in half, and one of ur buddies had one break on him, and now u say all they have is a good motor? Ur clueless. I put 260 hours on a ktm 450 and never had to do anything, not even piston. Also put 260 hours on a 250xc and only had to change the top end twice which is normal maintenance. They are 1000x better than they used to be
korey svardal what makes you think I’m talking about a picture? And ok they might be better then what they once were but they are still trash compared to the Japanese brand bikes from my experience. I’ll stick with Honda or Kawi.
Andrew Ewing better brakes, clutch, and chassis feel is trash? While also being 10lbs lighter than the lightest of the Japanese bikes... Wouldn’t call that trash but ok
korey svardal how do you think ktm made that dinosaur frame bike so light? By cutting away metal where they should have left it for strength. A ktm will break. If not from rust because steel does rust, it will be because it is too fragile. But go ahead and keep thinking ktm is better. It’s more expensive.
Hate to break to ya Suzuki guys but even with this engine package yall bike is still slow as shit and needs a new re worked motor to even compete . Tons of people can visually see how slow a Suzuki is when it's next to a Honda , Yamaha or Redbull Ktm. Alex martin is struggling he just don't want to admit it and same for Justin hill. Get it together Suzuki!! and get rid of this engine package shit just make factory edition bikes! People just want to buy it and ride it they don't want to tear down a new bike and do this wtf yall smoking
If they did this as an oem factory edition with a jgr suspension spec, I think you would get a lot of racers buying a Suzuki for 2020.
I guess if they would add some of this stuff to the stock bike sSuzuki would go up in all the tests of the major outlets which would result in higher sale numbers. The strange thing is that the new Suzukis are almost as expensive as a new CR-F in europe.
Not worth it. Bike sales r so small in the big picture . Probably less than 20% of their net income
I don’t think a lot of people understand who this product is for. This is not for C, B, or even a lot of A riders. This is for privateers who are looking to stay competitive in the super/motocross scene. It’s expensive, but that’s just what it costs for the performance that these guys need. Some of the tops ends on factory bikes only last 6-7 hours. Any bike I own would need to last at least 150 hours if not more. This product isn’t for me, but there’s a market for it and it’s cool that a factory team is producing this stuff for anyone to buy if they have the cash for it
I ll just buy a jgr graphics kit for my 450 and thats enough power for me ;)
lol
This is actually where you will see the biggest gains.
😂😂😂😂
Nice. Make it affordable for everyone. Love Suzuki's.
I think factory riders and privateers should race stock engines. Would it change who's up front?
It would initially, but not once everyone switches to whatever is fastest 😝
same guys would still win i dont care what anyone says
That Baby Shark GTO o
Probably not a lot, the top dogs get bikes because they are fast! They are not fast because they get bikes...
Holy smokes. Ain’t no wonder privateers can’t compete lol
Thats why me and most of us do it for fun. Different to say if yor heading pro then you need shit loads of money if you want to compete. Sorry for my english.
Hell yea suzuki steping it up a bit. I like that
Stage 1 & 2 do look good and cool to see but with more power comes more responsibility! What about suspension kits front n rear?
So very cool! I don't know what you could do to your bike that would be as rad! Makes me want to go out and buy a Suzuki!
Yes great for us ,but really sort out the suspension and the frame
Very smart idea
Adjusting air/fuel ratios on your phone, for your dirt bike. God damn, idk if anyone heard this dude when he was talking but that’s remarkable. I’m blown away, seriously that’s fucking awesome.
We are definitely going to push this at our dealer
Definitely cool ,just do a oil spring kit on suspension aswell that'll boost my confidence in that suspension , because my experience with air forks is crashing into a corner on the air chamber side where if I corner on the oil side it doesn't bottom out and it doe not freaking fail! I nearly killed my little brother on crappy air forks
I think this is a great idea yea there bikes may suck but this could really get. More people racing
4,400$ for the kit. God damn man. That’s insane.
Yeah no doubt your products are Amazing and all that
But how many everyday consumers can use the full potential of even the 250. These bikes are more than 90% of people can handle as they are. Nice gear though 👌
This is for an expert or pro rider.suzuki does have a good contingency program.so these kits in the hands of an a rider could make him more money.some amateur races have holeshot bonus for the pro classes so a few more h.p will help to the first turn.
Can the stock bottom end handle the new kits higher compression?
High performance never goes hand in hand with high reliability.
No wonder my local shops are slowly closing. They've turned this into a rich mans sport. Ill stick to my 98 xr200 lol.
Nobody can forbid you to ride a stock motorcycle.
damn, I can get a set of nascar chevy heads for that price
Dustin will they bolt on the 250 or a450?
Without suspension work you are already looking at a 11800 dollar price tag. I would like to see a comparison between a KTM / Husky with pipe and stock ECU vs the Suzuki with JGR kit.
The JGR kit would smoke it as long as the rider is up to par...these are factory level engine modifications that you actually get the chance to purchase. Pretty cool...too bad JGR is under now...
@@jonathondavis170 How do you know? The gap between the stock bikes is huge. I agree with you it's a huge loss that JGR quits.
buy a new bike, then buy new bike's worth of parts...
Electric start?
Stop skipping Leg Day 🤷🏼♂️
suspension is more important than power unless you can hold ya 450 flat
Motocross is unaffordable to the regular person these days I work a decent job but will all my Bill's and everything else I camt even afford to get a bike let alone a top end kit for 4300 dollars this is sad i want to get back on a bike so bad but how buy a used clapped 05 450 that will blow up in a year and then have to spend 3 to 4g to rebuild the motor I can rebuild a 350 v8 for half the price so what the hell is going on here
Dude get a decent used 2 stroke, watch your air filter, screen your gas, WARM UP your bike before hammer time & get lots of ya ya s out of it.right after new years day is the time to buy.people are swamped w/ bills & not riding ..good hunting!
3-4k to build a 450 back? Da fuk? I build 4 stroke motors every day
Re-Build it yourself and get just what you need. The shop i co-own only charges about 1200 for a full rebuild for a 450r/f. You can go get a craigslist bike and run it til it locks, spend 1200-1500 shop or do it yourself for about 650 with a kit or just get a new crank and rod assembly and some new rings for 260. Re-Hone your own cylinders, Get a set of valves and buy a cheap ne-way cutter you can use over and over again for years for valve seats when you replace valves once every few years. This is all easy stuff you can do in your garage. And dont tell me you cant make it happen at those prices because I do it every single day.
4 strokes are not expensive to repair, people just like to replace way to many parts even if they are still good. I just bought a piston kit, all top end head gaskets, and all valve seals for 150$ bucks for a 13 rmz 250
I will stay with my 21 year old KTM 2 smoke. It's practically free to keep it in better than new performance.
@@skankhuntfortytwo7689 let's do it.
If Susuki would just add more horse power to their stock bikes (like Honda and Yamaha do) their bikes would be top of the line
Weight Watchers was a better dollar/lap time ratio.
Why would you need 2 map switches
one full power and a tamer one for slippery conditions so you can get more traction without wheelspin.
They're acting like procircuit hasnt been doing this already for 30 years....
Everyone knows they have...but they are bringing products to tye market...previosly yoshimura was the only supplier of performance Suzuki parts ...so it does help the end user with choice
holy f%$#! it used to cost 50 bucks for piston and rings back in the day. good god it's a rich man's sport now and that really sucks. you used to be able to go racing on the weekend for about a hundred bucks. this is just ridiculous.
Great just bought a 2018 250 thanks😐
Yeah it's a lot of money, especially considering this was always a young man's sport. I'm into dragracing now that I'm older and this is cheap in comparison. Always two ways to look at it I guess. Motocross was the last of the cheaper motorsports to get into but now you have to have a rich mommy and daddy to get to the top level.
On a 450 there are ONLY a handful of skilled riders who use or can hold on to the stock bike as it is. No need to spend money on more power....use the money for tires, chain&sprockets,j suspension work etc..... 250..... That might be a different story.... However making them too fast only causes Dubai
Dependability issues!
It’s worth it if you’re a privateer racing on the big stage. For the regular joe who spins a few laps then comes in for a smoke break and to chug a beer, this isn’t for you.
This would be the biggest waste of money. Anyone that thinks this will make them a better rider, doesn’t ride enough. A pair of running shoes would be more beneficial. A stock bike with correct suspension settings, fresh tires, clean filters, proper chain adjustment and in great condition matter way more. Need proof? Stewart and Carmichael were still on two strokes while most of the guys were on four strokes that cost more than a land cruiser, outcome...they destroyed them.
This game is about the rider.
Jgr hasn't even had one of there shit boxes finish a race
The cheapest motocross bike(own one) yeah give me a $4300 race motor kit for my $6100 new otd bike???
Rm Is one of the best looking bikes , not the best race bike tho
I enjoy the steering/handling
My 2019 rmz 450 has more power than I can handle bone stock.
Scam ?
Seems like a waste of money to me idk
Just buy any other bike
All this to just hang with a stock YZ, HONDA, HUSKY
Keep living in your wonderland.
Stock ktm has more power 😂😂
Ktms have good power and that’s it. Never seen any other bike break down or just snap in half like a Ktm
Andrew Ewing so you saw a picture of an older ktm broken in half, and one of ur buddies had one break on him, and now u say all they have is a good motor? Ur clueless. I put 260 hours on a ktm 450 and never had to do anything, not even piston. Also put 260 hours on a 250xc and only had to change the top end twice which is normal maintenance. They are 1000x better than they used to be
korey svardal what makes you think I’m talking about a picture? And ok they might be better then what they once were but they are still trash compared to the Japanese brand bikes from my experience. I’ll stick with Honda or Kawi.
Andrew Ewing better brakes, clutch, and chassis feel is trash? While also being 10lbs lighter than the lightest of the Japanese bikes... Wouldn’t call that trash but ok
korey svardal how do you think ktm made that dinosaur frame bike so light? By cutting away metal where they should have left it for strength. A ktm will break. If not from rust because steel does rust, it will be because it is too fragile. But go ahead and keep thinking ktm is better. It’s more expensive.
get rid of the kick starter and we'll talk 👌
Princess!
@@miloraca "RACER" not princess. i got no time for kick startin the bike.
@@bradreandeau8901 mine starts nearly 1st kick! 1 second
@@miloraca I can restart and click off 2 gears before you can reach down and pull your kick starter out........ Electric start is superior.
Hate to break to ya Suzuki guys but even with this engine package yall bike is still slow as shit and needs a new re worked motor to even compete . Tons of people can visually see how slow a Suzuki is when it's next to a Honda , Yamaha or Redbull Ktm. Alex martin is struggling he just don't want to admit it and same for Justin hill. Get it together Suzuki!! and get rid of this engine package shit just make factory edition bikes! People just want to buy it and ride it they don't want to tear down a new bike and do this wtf yall smoking
Revo lution 🙇🏼♂️🙇🏼♂️🙇🏼♂️🙇🏼♂️
Dude the red bull ktm 2 stroke is probably the best motorcycle/dirt bike I’ve ever seen/heard. That thing barks it’s ass off.
What shit are you saying? You're so fucking ridiculous
Or just build a better bike to begin with. Suzuki will sink itself. Sad.