The Weird History Of Red Deck Wins W/ Javier Dominguez

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • Is the cheapest deck also the best deck? Cardmarket spent months researching the history of sligh red and how it evolved into the most oppressive 60-card deck in the history of Magic: The Gathering. Of course, we enlist none other than Javier Dominguez himself to help us tell the story.
    Find all the decklists from the video here: bit.ly/3JNjVjd
    0:00 Intro
    1:38 What is Red Deck Wins
    4:50 The Invention of the Mana Curve
    9:47 David Price, The King of Beatdown
    16:36 Red Deck Wins
    18:07 The Philosophy of Fire
    21:00 The Golden Age of Standard
    23:15 Atarka Red
    25:47 THE Red Deck - Hazored
    30:53 The Final Form
    36:55 Best Deck Ever?
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    !Opinions expressed in this video are those of the author/video creator and not necessarily Cardmarket.
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Komentáře • 538

  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +39

    Find all the decklists from the video here: bit.ly/3JNjVjd

    • @coreyriegle1328
      @coreyriegle1328 Před rokem

      I've got a couple old winner decks with the gold borders. 1999 and 2000. WAY kewl.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +6

      @@coreyriegle1328 I LOVE those! They are so randomly expensive though... I'm actually working on next week's video right now which isa feature match with those decks, but from 1997, played by none other than Frank Karsten! :D

    • @coreyriegle1328
      @coreyriegle1328 Před rokem +1

      @@CardmarketMagic they are actually why I started using sleeves. That way I could play them against my brother. I've had these for about 20 years now. I've got a few cards from that era and from 01, but nothing after that. Im stoked about the videos. I really like what you're doing with the channel. It's becoming everything I hoped it would, YOU GUYS are who we look to these days. I love this game, my brother and I have been braining eachother for 24 years and you spell it out how we wanna hear it. Keep on keepin on. It's almost time to wake the kids up for school, so this is my free time. Later on, dudes.
      🤘😎🤙

    • @betasequence4885
      @betasequence4885 Před rokem

      As a passionate lifelong red deck only player thank you so very very much for this :) Absolutely the most wonderful video I could possibly find. Thank you :)

    • @chillywings
      @chillywings Před rokem

      @@CardmarketMagic Not too random. They were a collectors product after all. However there is an extremely high price variation on the market. The same deck in the same condition could sell for $50 or $200. Simultaneous active listings can easily have $100 differences, up to like $500 for the more expensive decks (eg Matt Linde with Gaea's Cradle) or for some reason people list some of the 2003 decks for way over face value. And yes, I know all this because I am currently in the process of collecting all the decks lol

  • @der_ast3275
    @der_ast3275 Před rokem +410

    "Red players don't ask questions. They just attack and let their opponents decide." This one made me chuckle as a red player.
    Great video Carl.

    • @peterkirk8510
      @peterkirk8510 Před rokem +15

      “Math is for blockers”

    • @luismanuellmf
      @luismanuellmf Před rokem +8

      I also play monored and a friend of mine made such a weird compliment like, I thought you were a smart person, I don't know why you play monored. And I was like, yeah that's the point, I spent a fraction of money you've spent building my deck and I have more win rate, isn't that smart?

    • @theHalken
      @theHalken Před rokem +12

      Play red, eat lunch.
      1. Win or lose you finish early and have the time.
      2. You didn't spend your last money on duals and fetches, so you can still afford it.

    • @XTempestBuster
      @XTempestBuster Před 5 měsíci

      It's so real too. Math is for everyone else. Swing face, feel great

  • @CERTAIND00M
    @CERTAIND00M Před rokem +134

    I can still remember, with crystal clarity, the first time I was ever bolted to death from 9 life. And this was 20 years ago, when 9 life was still a lot. I looked down at my board full of useless green creatures I had just spent four rounds pumping and thinking, "Were we even playing the same game?"
    Red Deck Wins because it has MtG's lowest skill floor and arguably its highest skill ceiling.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +26

      Wow, this almost feels like a poem

    • @CERTAIND00M
      @CERTAIND00M Před rokem +4

      ​@@CardmarketMagic Lol! I'm honored. It definitely felt poetic. Like an epic tragedy.

    • @piercearora7681
      @piercearora7681 Před rokem +7

      In my opinion RDW has a lower skill ceiling than many Tempo and Spellslinger decks, but the more Burn flavors can come close. As tilting as it is to get completely run over, I definitely respect the RDW players who actually think about their decisions, I just get frustrated when these people make so many obvious misplays and still run me over because they drew well on the play.

    • @peterkirk8510
      @peterkirk8510 Před rokem +10

      Highest skill ceiling is excessive, but it’s much higher than haters would like to admit

    • @theHalken
      @theHalken Před rokem +5

      You can win with luck, but when you are sitting on a bolt and asking yourself "removal or face?" you need to know the other decks and what they are running. And how to read your opponent. Do they look like they want to take it on the chin but would miss their creature?
      And having a sense of probability helps too. Knowing roughly how probable drawing another bolt Vs a hasty creature Vs a dumb mountain is not the easiest

  • @CodiTC
    @CodiTC Před rokem +331

    Carl, you crushed this video! I've given you some flack in the past for always being too loud and yelling in other videos but I take it all back, well done mate!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +84

      Thank you! And you are not wrong, I am loud 😅 There's not much I am physically capable of doing to fix that

    • @eljuanpapas
      @eljuanpapas Před rokem +4

      Not yelling may become the new standard ...

    • @nateblanche2551
      @nateblanche2551 Před rokem +11

      Its like a good friend once said to me, true to this comment especially "backhanded compliments are always more effective"

    • @millenialmonster
      @millenialmonster Před rokem +18

      I love Carl being loud & yelling!

    • @maxbladel
      @maxbladel Před rokem +1

      Never change Carl!

  • @digitalcardboard
    @digitalcardboard Před rokem +30

    Clearly infinite efforts into creating this video. Never would’ve thought I’d be watching a 40 min documentary one red deck wins… but thanks for making this 🎉

  • @simondezeeuw2042
    @simondezeeuw2042 Před rokem +67

    The production on this video is insane! Well done Carl!

    • @Stayner
      @Stayner Před rokem +2

      It felt like a modernized version of Rhystic Studios video.

    • @GraemeGunn
      @GraemeGunn Před rokem +1

      @@Stayner modernized? Rhystic Studies isn't that old lol

  • @Carnane
    @Carnane Před rokem +18

    This and the Azorius Control video are fascinating. Competitive and just MTG history videos in general are really lacking on CZcams, so I love these. Keep at it if you can, great work!

  • @thegreatmaximilian
    @thegreatmaximilian Před rokem +55

    Really cool video, awesome storytelling. I love a good mono red deck. Right now, the Pioneer and Pauper versions of mono red are my favorite, thanks to Swift Spear. I hope this does well and becomes a whole series, like you alluded to.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +15

      Swiftspear is a such a wild card! And good on you for playing pauper 🥳 that format needs all the traction it can get!

    • @jonathanjernigan3865
      @jonathanjernigan3865 Před rokem +3

      Swiftspear is an insane threat in pauper

    • @bunni2583
      @bunni2583 Před 5 měsíci

      How are you doing in pauper post-ban?

    • @thegreatmaximilian
      @thegreatmaximilian Před 5 měsíci

      @@bunni2583 Worse, but that's okay. Pauper needed the refresh.

  • @margibso
    @margibso Před rokem +6

    10:22 It's crazy to see Ironclaw Orcs, a 2/2 for 2 with DOWNSIDE, being part of a top tier deck. Especially along side broken cards like Fireblast. It tuns out that 4 damage for free and instant speed is pretty good.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +6

      Creatures were so bad in early magic compared to the spells 😅 it's hilarious how Ironclaw Orcs was played in formats with force of will and swords to plowshares

  • @alexiswigginton452
    @alexiswigginton452 Před rokem +19

    Im hyped for magic history, i love this type of stuff

  • @fancypanda98
    @fancypanda98 Před rokem +7

    I have watched the Blue White Control video you made probably 5 times now and so excited to watch this one

  • @supazio
    @supazio Před 10 měsíci +2

    Really glad to see this type of video getting made. RDW is the quintessential "it's for noobs who just cast spells and turn sideways", and yet- Red Deck Wins.

  • @MFSIMBA
    @MFSIMBA Před rokem +3

    Huge fan of this video. When I was first getting into Pioneer, I didn't really have a lot of money to buy in with one of the big decks or anything, so I just got the Burn precon and modified it a bit. Despite playing with a deck that cost maybe $60-65 total, I was going 3-1 or 4-0 all the time at my locals. I've transitioned it to Atarka red now, but I've been forever converted into a Red player in constructed formats.

  • @BionicPie
    @BionicPie Před rokem +9

    This is amazing. Carl please host more of these.
    Your energy is just perfect for these type of videos ❤

  • @alexiswigginton452
    @alexiswigginton452 Před rokem +2

    Holy crap the alarm at 6:55 is my wake up alarm and it gave me shivers

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +1

      Hahahaha I'm so sorry. I should have thought about that 🤔it's not the alarm I personally use and when I hear my alarm in the wild, it also stresses me out immediately. Sorry for that

  • @pathtracker4944
    @pathtracker4944 Před rokem +1

    The editing is just amazing. Really disappointing to see that it only got 3k likes when so much effort is put into it.

  • @SycophanticDesignInc
    @SycophanticDesignInc Před měsícem

    How am I only now being shown this video!?!? This is so awesome, I really hope there's more.

  • @corey6597
    @corey6597 Před rokem +7

    Probably one of the best videos to come out, yall keep raising the bar. Good job, can't wait to see more of this series

  • @daniellaplante5725
    @daniellaplante5725 Před rokem +8

    I LOVED this video. Just got back into mtg. Caught me up on the history of the deck I used to play ( sly ) . Amazing job. SUB! also sending to all my mtg friends.

  • @HadesElderSage
    @HadesElderSage Před rokem +3

    Amazing video and I love history videos! Red deck wins got me into 60 card formats from commander. Being able to play my favorite card a 4 of (lightning bolt) in modern makes me so happy.

  • @loxeggcheese
    @loxeggcheese Před rokem +5

    Been eagerly waiting for another of this style videos from y’all! The UW control video was so so good. Just started this one and I’m already hooked!

  • @frasek2356
    @frasek2356 Před rokem +1

    Very good video, keep up the good work! Always waiting for more feature matches and playing with viewers decks, but this form of content is also great to watch. Basically every video on this channel is golden, and I will definitely watch the next ones!

  • @daredewley9231
    @daredewley9231 Před rokem +4

    This video is great. I'd love more of these in depth looks at mtg history. Keep up the great work CM crew, thanks for all you do.

  • @FloydMcRyan7
    @FloydMcRyan7 Před rokem

    Great video, Carl & team.
    It oozes with all the love, care and hard work you put into it! Very well done.

  • @BonesofGoldSkateboarding

    Thank you so much for this loveletter to mono red ❤ it was the first deck I’ve heard about as a teen in the 90’s , and recently I got back into magic and it’s been my deck and I love it 🥰

  • @jujobaco
    @jujobaco Před rokem +1

    My favorite on the channel. Thanks for the depth and detail!

  • @marinusbrask8186
    @marinusbrask8186 Před rokem +1

    These videos are by far some of my favorites of everything you guys make! Please make more 😁 Would love to see a video on agro control

  • @MrCaptainJack2
    @MrCaptainJack2 Před rokem +3

    Incredible ep, esp because you brought such a high quality player such as Thalai. Excellent work all around!

  • @RobiousIllyrian
    @RobiousIllyrian Před rokem

    Wonderful as always with these in-depth vids! Cant get enough of these, I love learning about magic history!!

  • @KlittoD
    @KlittoD Před rokem +1

    Great captivating start. I will revisit this with more time on my hands!

  • @filipeestacio
    @filipeestacio Před rokem +1

    Carl's delivery in this video is the best I've seen from him. Fantastic production and great subject! More like this please!!

  • @nicotoneff6496
    @nicotoneff6496 Před rokem +2

    Hey great work. I learned a lot! I typically play commander these days, so this gave me an insight into how standard actually plays out in tournaments. Also As someone newly getting back into magic since back in the day when I played it as a kid, watching these clips from the 90s was hillerious

  • @DJCleanteeth
    @DJCleanteeth Před rokem +1

    Really like the video, would love to see some more of this content from you guys. You get better with each video! Keep up the good work.

  • @jaxom97
    @jaxom97 Před rokem +4

    This was so good!
    Really high quality content that is well researched

  • @zanebarber8688
    @zanebarber8688 Před rokem +2

    I really loved this video, and it would be awesome if y’all did more of these

  • @fabiogarzaro8272
    @fabiogarzaro8272 Před rokem +1

    Yes please, this is probably the best format of the channel, i would love an analysis on tempo decks!

  • @fish_in_distress
    @fish_in_distress Před rokem +1

    Awesome video! Thanks for all the work you put in, hope we can see more like it

  • @kowagaruwolf320
    @kowagaruwolf320 Před rokem +1

    Loved this documentary style video! Amazing breakdown with great interviews

  • @makemefamous4401
    @makemefamous4401 Před rokem +1

    Super entertaining and interesting video. I would love to see the history of other decks/archetypes! Really excellent work.

  • @imanimason5858
    @imanimason5858 Před rokem +1

    Loved this video!!! I'm glad y'all are back at it!!! Y'all are great!!!!

  • @justinas1237
    @justinas1237 Před rokem +2

    please make more of these, love this style of video

  • @derekp3820
    @derekp3820 Před rokem +1

    I’ve watched most of the stuff on this channel and have enjoyed a lot of it, this feels like the best thing I’ve seen on here. Oh your collab with Remy was amazing too.

  • @fr3y920
    @fr3y920 Před rokem

    Great video! I would definitely watch a whole series like this on different deck archetypes throughout the history of magic

  • @snowhusk
    @snowhusk Před rokem +1

    Very cool and informative video! I especially liked all the nerdy stuff like in that "is bolting a creature worth more than 3 damage to the face" segment, very cool conceptual stuff, never seen that angle discussed before

  • @caseywellington4761
    @caseywellington4761 Před rokem

    Okay I'm barely past the intro and I LOVE it! I want to see more videos like this!!!!

  • @KnicKnac
    @KnicKnac Před rokem +2

    I remember goblins as the red deck during Onslaught adding a few tools, but I had a friend who played legacy so that history is just adding new pieces here and there. I know some have a splash of burn if needed.

  • @PraetorGix
    @PraetorGix Před rokem +1

    If you asked me before making this series if I'd be interested in learning MTG history I'd have said nah thx but these documentaries ended up being one of my favourite series from your channel. Kudos on the research and effort put into them!

  • @psykemporos
    @psykemporos Před rokem +1

    An absolutely interesting and really well done content. Thanks for your dedication.

  • @Shikigami6
    @Shikigami6 Před rokem

    Thank you! Its so nice to see some good researched, in-depths documentations on our favourite game! Especially since many of us were not even born when Magic came out.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +1

      I'll try my best to satisfy with the next one as well :)

  • @datawulf88
    @datawulf88 Před rokem +1

    Great video! Nice work on the history and deck tech lesson. Great job, please more 😉👍

  • @intalekt
    @intalekt Před rokem +1

    Brilliant video, Carl! Appreciate the historical deep dive!

  • @cronothblackmetal297
    @cronothblackmetal297 Před rokem +1

    This was a beautiful video, guys!!
    Great work

  • @metaled16
    @metaled16 Před rokem +1

    Great video! Hope these carry on with other deck types

  • @TheViv06
    @TheViv06 Před rokem +1

    Excellent job Carl! Was a great watch start to finish. I love love LOVE docu-style videos like these. Would love to see you all cover something like eldrazi winter, or hogaak summer.

  • @ninjawxyz1260
    @ninjawxyz1260 Před rokem +1

    I absolutely love this video, I definitely enjoy this sort of Magic Theory/History video

  • @ottomoorefuller5302
    @ottomoorefuller5302 Před rokem

    Love this video format! Bring us more!

  • @tanuki2021
    @tanuki2021 Před rokem +1

    I love these retrospectives! Keep at it!

  • @asdrubalbernal1242
    @asdrubalbernal1242 Před rokem +1

    Great video...more of this please!

  • @mikee9464
    @mikee9464 Před rokem +3

    This is an incredible series. I'd love to see one for each color.

  • @guillaumegladieux9839

    This channel deserves 10x more subscribers. Amazing content and editing. Keep up the great work !

  • @hermelin12
    @hermelin12 Před rokem +2

    Very nice Video. :) I like listening to Carl and his Explanations and summaries of magic topics, especially in combination with experts.
    In addition: Red Deck Wins is the best archetype there is. :D
    Quick and simple all fine and dandy.

  • @scarab5Q
    @scarab5Q Před rokem

    Watched this again, left a comment and liked for the algorithm.
    These history videos rule!!! Please do more of them!!

  • @caseywellington4761
    @caseywellington4761 Před rokem +1

    I finally subbed because I really hope you make more videos like this! I love almost all the content on this channel, but this tops it all.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      I'd love to make more like this :) what archetype should we work on next?

  • @MrKlausKinsky
    @MrKlausKinsky Před rokem

    Love those history videos with all the old footage and those funky cards 😅 ❤ please do more videos like this

  • @dougbostick7543
    @dougbostick7543 Před 10 měsíci

    I wish these videos were easier to make because these are my favorite on this channel. As a player who has only been playing for the last 5 years it's super cool and informative to learn about the history of mtg deck building. Thank you for this!

  • @francescoarchidiacono5370

    marana this was an awesome video essay. Please, we need more of these

  • @TheNotSoMysteriousG
    @TheNotSoMysteriousG Před 8 měsíci

    Man, I’ve played some form of burn/red aggro since I started and I got so nostalgic when you started talking about Ramunap Red and the iteration following it. I miss that standard so much

  • @Haurent
    @Haurent Před rokem +2

    Deck stories are the best! Hope this series does well, because I wanna know everything I can about my favourite archetype Golgari Rock

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +3

      If I get to make another one of these (it's tough to justify them because they are so time intensive and expensive), the next one I want to do is GB rock (and, at times, jund)! 🎉

  • @gerrberr1454
    @gerrberr1454 Před rokem

    Great video. Would love to see more of these!

  • @Chaoslorden
    @Chaoslorden Před rokem

    This is a really great video! More of this please!

  • @lambofdog9291
    @lambofdog9291 Před rokem +1

    Love the storytelling of these videos!

  • @moorecreativearts2544

    I really enjoyed this video. Please do more videos like this one covering the other deck archetypes and their competitive history.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem +1

      I'm working on one right now about Jund with Reid Duke :)

  • @williamhendricks6070
    @williamhendricks6070 Před rokem

    Great video as always. Love these deeper dives.
    As I was taught, the "Deadguy" moniker, especially in Deadguy Ale, is a reference to Rogue Ale's Deadguy Ale, being based in the Pacific-Northwest, and also that they as players were putting out their own "rogue brews".

  • @paulonavarro7095
    @paulonavarro7095 Před rokem

    Really nice video, please make more of this!

  • @robinnordsiek6783
    @robinnordsiek6783 Před rokem

    Best video i have seen from CM this far. Great, Entertaining watch!!!

  • @atam0103
    @atam0103 Před rokem

    Love this video. Carl, an awesome job! Please make more videos on other decks.

  • @Rurrikk
    @Rurrikk Před rokem

    Love the long style videos. Javier interview was excellent as well.

  • @coreyriegle1328
    @coreyriegle1328 Před rokem

    Awesome!!! You did fantastic. Not boring, no lull, kept my attention........and in today's CZcams world, that's a long time for one video to be interesting. 👌

  • @Razomka
    @Razomka Před rokem

    Very interesting and a great watch!
    Very well done!

  • @Einherjar1349
    @Einherjar1349 Před rokem

    Man, this videos is awesome! Thanks for sharing

  • @TonyScimeca
    @TonyScimeca Před 10 měsíci

    Amazing video! and I had no idea that his world champion card was a cute callback to Hazoret the FERVENT + Javier the CHAMPION. Mind blown

  • @VND06
    @VND06 Před rokem

    Excellent content Carl! keep them coming!

  • @derphilin7186
    @derphilin7186 Před rokem +1

    Wirklich ein richtig gut recherchiertes, geschnittenes und unterhaltsames Video. Danke dafür!

  • @madsfrederikfischer-mller1575

    What a great video. Thank you so much!

  • @liamwood2878
    @liamwood2878 Před rokem

    I want more of this! I love professional magic stories!

  • @IgorTheBear
    @IgorTheBear Před rokem

    Great video. Please do more of that kind.

  • @brandoncampbell1537
    @brandoncampbell1537 Před rokem

    This video idea was great. I think it would be cool to dive into more decks!

  • @FloppierTaco
    @FloppierTaco Před rokem

    Another great quality video, you have been working a lot during the break!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      No we didn't, we were on break 😅 but we are working really hard now! 🥳

  • @ariverrr
    @ariverrr Před rokem

    Great idea :) I am looking forward to see more ✌️

  • @therealkami
    @therealkami Před 11 měsíci

    Talking about how turn 3 wins were rare reminded me of the deck that chased me out of MTG: Arcbound Ravager Affinity. Turn 3 wins were fairly common with it. It was a scary deck that suffered a lot of bans.

  • @mtgygo4249
    @mtgygo4249 Před rokem +1

    I love watching the history of archetypes!!

  • @nickraupp6104
    @nickraupp6104 Před rokem

    This video was so great and so well done! Keep it up! I'd love to see similar breakdowns for UW Control and BG Rock :)

  • @marcususful
    @marcususful Před rokem

    Carl I am truly impressed about this video. It shows how passionate you were about the project and it was awesome!
    I would love to see more projects from you, how about one about the history of cardmarket itself? From back when it was mkm to now and surrounding stories, would be very interesting

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      Thank you that is very kind of you to say :) although I might xover the history of Cardmarket (it's actually quite interesting!) I think people would rather hear about MTG history for now 😅

    • @marcususful
      @marcususful Před rokem

      @@CardmarketMagic Pretty sure Cardmarket is part of Magic History by now

  • @NelsonWong-kd8jc
    @NelsonWong-kd8jc Před rokem

    insanely great production and content

  • @Vardaris
    @Vardaris Před rokem +1

    Ok now this is one of the best videos on the internet about not just a deck but a whole archetype, its history, strategy, notable cards and philosophy. What do we have to do to get the same video for the rest of the archetypes?

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Před rokem

      I tried one on UW control first :)
      czcams.com/video/5LktYRlHPAY/video.html
      And now we'll definitely be working on other ones in the future! If you have an archetype to suggest, here is the place

  • @themugofthenorth
    @themugofthenorth Před rokem

    Honestly this sort of content is Phenomenal!

  • @user-ud5tk4oc6r
    @user-ud5tk4oc6r Před měsícem

    Fun fact! Deadguy Ale is named after a beer. The name is also a pun- it came out of nowhere at the time, so the deck was a rogue brew

  • @jaimeribeiro7096
    @jaimeribeiro7096 Před rokem

    U know im a huge fan of your play table blue purple "playmate". Just like the ones that apear in those old mtg tournaments.just difrent colors..awesome!

  • @WhatsTheBeta
    @WhatsTheBeta Před rokem +1

    With the quality you guys are putting out you'll be at 100k Subs in no time! TBH I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.

  • @peterwidia1410
    @peterwidia1410 Před rokem

    I really love these documentary type vids! Also Carl that ending was 👌🤣