Two major reasons this song should've been kept: 1. It shows Scrooge's pain regarding this memory significantly better. The very fact he starts singing along with her lets the audience know how hurt he is by this and how he's been hanging on ever since it happened since he remembers the lyrics so effortlessly. 2. The ending song, The Love We Found, hits way harder since it's a reflection of this song and shows the peace Scrooge finally came to.
Also it’s just weird and jarring to have the muppets suddenly crying their eyes out just because somebody walked out of frame. (And I know they’re meant to be sad because the engagement’s been called off, but it just doesn’t have the same weight.)
100%. I was very upset to find this song missing in the new movie I bought to replace the original Muppet Christmas Carol that I once had. Loved this part of the movie.
It's so funny how they cut this scene because they thought younger audiences would have no interest and then it turned out to be the most iconic scene of the movie. It's been my favorite scene since I was a child
@VV4FF13Z Same... I finally watched a copy online because I've lost my ancient tape, and when this song didn't play it felt so wrong. I was 6 when this movie came out, and it taught me that Michael Caine is a BOSS. This scene was no small part of that, even then. I understood that "Goodbye forever" was a really sad thing, and it also proved he had a heart in there because I could see it breaking *again* for something from so long ago. As an adult - nobody can break your heart & keep you coming back to it like Paul Williams can
@@lilMissmAlice I totally agree. This came out when I was 10 and it was the turning point for the whole movie. It was the time he appeared to actually be moved deeply by his past with regards to his present. Sure not all kids will like it. But not all of anybody likes everything. Kids are fully capable of recognizing the feeling and deep meaning of a scene even if they lack the life experience to fully empathize.
As someone who had a VHS version of this film with the song growing up, I was absolutely gutted when I found out it was cut from most later versions. I'll never understand it. This is one of the most powerful emotional moments in the film --- not to mention one of the most important moments in Scrooge's life. Not only does "The Love We've Found," not make sense without it, but this scene doesn't even really make sense either. He says, "I love you, Belle," she says, "You did once," and then leaves, and we see Rizzo crying. It's all very abrupt, and completely changes the feeling of the scene. A moment that's supposed to be heartbreaking and emotional just ends up feeling... chilly.
I read an article where Disney was pretending that this song was never in the movie and that they had recovered a brand new song that they were going to put into the story. These jerks really don’t think we remember things this profound and moving.
This was my ex wife and I's favorite movie and this song has so much more meaning now. I was basically Scrooge in that I chased the money instead of chasing family. When I finally realized what was actually important in life, it was too late. The love really was gone and I think about it all the time.
Had to talk to my current to teach her to slow down…enjoy life. Stop focusing on money & START LIVING. I love her and don’t want her to have the same regrets I do.
I’m so glad they found the negatives for this scene, because the film is lacking without it. When Ebenezer begins to sing with her, I lose it every time.
The redemption arc makes no sense without it. The Love is Gone is redeemed and becomes the Love we've found. The ending doesn't make sense without this
It's when Scrooge starts singing with her and breaks down that I lose it. Scrooge's regret and wishing he could have changed his past, but he can't. With this scene not in the original you lose a lot of the emotional weight of the second half of the movie.
Madness that it was removed! I told somebody about it being removed because it was too sad and they said "TOO SAD?! Have they seen the ending to Toy Story 3?!"
"Bless us All" is literally an answer song to this. It carries a similar cadence and its placement in the present sequence correlates with this song in the past sequence. It balances out the movie!
@@johnalbent init!! And tiny Tim!? Like how was that not too sad and as a kid I loved that scene! But I always forwarded the Future scene cause it used to scare me and make me sad so they fucked up if thats the reason smh
I'm absolutely one of those '90s kids who would tune out when this part kicked in. When I was watching it for the first time on Disney+ and they just skipped over it completely, it felt SO wrong. We truly see Scrooge at his most vulnerable. And, most importantly, it is a very beautiful song that's sung incredibly well. It never fails to bring tears to my eyes when Scrooge joins in.
Watching this movie every Christmas has been a tradition in my family since I was a baby. When we realized they cut this song on Disneyplus (they hadn’t added the extended version yet) we paused it in horror and my dad said, “Oh, I’m writing a strongly worded letter to Disney.”
this scene was so perfect because it really shows Scrooge's character depth. You see young Scrooge leave so you assume "oh he must have never really loved her" THEN you see old Scrooge try to sing along as almost as if it's like an old song they shared as a couple and despite years of not hearing it, he does remember it. This indicates that he does remember Belle. He does remember loving her deeply and upon seeing his reaction, he does deeply regret letting her go
The greatest Christmas film of all time. Despite it being a muppets film, Michael Caine produces a masterclass and quite possibly the best version of scrooge.
The scene that sticks with me and why I like this song is the moment Michael Caine steps in and sings in tears. I felt that sadness and regret he was showing
It's beautifully done on the level that the past Scrooge can't sing along, because this is just happening to him and he doesn't understand it. Whereas the older Scrooge not only understands it all too well, but he's probably subconsciously relived this moment endless times.
This scene shows why Scrooge turned out the way he did. All about lost love and bad choices and the regret you feel. Why he tried to ease his pain with wealth and hoarding because of his loss and emptiness he felt.
From commentary on Patrick Stewarts Christmas Carol: Here is a man who has turned to profit because he sincerely believes everyone and everything else will betray him...or leave him, the instant he trusts them. That is what 'humbug' literally means -pretending to a fake loftiness or false sincerity.
First off, my phone and possibly yours, allows casting the CZcams video to a TV. It's obscenely easy: there's an icon at the top that lets you do it and it really works. I did that last night. I watched until this scene came up, paused my movie and cast this to my TV, then I resumed the movie. Also the original of this scene was finally discovered and a proper version should be released next year!
@@stephenshelton4267Not sure why you felt the need to correct us when that's literally what we said we did 🤔 I did hear about the finding of the footage, and I do agree that it is very exciting 😊
@@stephspoilsstuff I think the way I wrote it was aggressive for some reason and my point was lost. It wasn't my intent! The thing I was trying to convey is that it's really easy to pause the movie, send the scene to the TV you're already watching and then switch back. Jumping to CZcams, or VHS like someone mentioned in another thread, can be a cumbersome process. In fact it was for me when I first played a digital version of the movie: I just played it off the tiny screen and speakers of my phone. This year I noticed that casting feature and it makes things so easy, but thankfully this will be the last year of it!
Just now when she sang, "yes some dreams come true, yes some dreams fall through" my entire body started tingling and I got goosebumps. I love this song.
That line with older Scrooge in the back breaking down while looking at her has ruined me since I was 6 years old. Even the parts as Belle’s singing, when he approaches her and she moves away from him, it rips my heart out. 😢
I get it that they wanted to remove this thinking that kids wouldn't relate but A Christmas Carol is not a children's story. It's a classic and the story is focused on Scrooge's emotional transformation. This song helps us see this and children can have a couple minutes to contemplate emotions that they might not ordinarily. There are lots of other fun and upbeat moments, that's why this is a Muppets movie! Both sides can be there, that's why I always liked this movie (but I always saw it with this song!)
@@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj You probably hated homework too, but it's good for you, so grownups made you do it. American shows have always dumbed down stuff way too much for audiences. Even adult ones. For me, this is in the category of character-building, and I will make my kids watch it every year haha.
@@christheleavittman7080 That exchange between Rizzo and Gonzo (Charles Dickens) definitely has meme potential right there) *Insert scary scene from random film or show* Rizzo: “*shudders* That’s scary stuff! Shouldn’t we be concerned about the kids in the audience?” Gonzo/Charles Dickens: “No, it’s alright. This is just culture.”
This is is such a powerful moment. Scrooge spent his whole life remembering this as his fiance leaving him; but you can see when his younger self turns away he has this look of "what are you doing?" He finally sees what she sees, that he didn't care. So he does what he now believes he should have done, and he goes to stand with her.
One of the most powerful scenes in the film. Some years ago, I broke up with a boyfriend and had been through a lot. When Christmas came, watching this scene beared more weight for me. Especially when Scrooge sings with her, full of regret. Somehow this scene to me has strong spiritual significance and I lose it every time.
Mom passed 1 week before Christmas in 09. Since then Christmas just seems…to be missing something. This year is different. I’ve been talking with someone that I’m head over heels for. The holidays actually feel more magical & warm because of her.
Similar story, and here in 2023, bawling like a baby. It's the "yes some dreams come true, and yes some dreams fall through, and yes, the time has come for us to say goodbye" that does it. If you've loved and lost, the last goodbye sticks. And the fact it sits in the middle of a Muppet joyfest like a fucking landmine just makes it all the more effective
It's ashamed that they got rid of the song, but kept the reprise "The Love We Found" and the ending credits pop version.😔 This gives a much a reason for Rizzo to cry & it shows the heartbreak and regret in Scrooge's eyes.
2:43 is very good directing. You can clearly see young Scrooge is in a catch 22 situation. He had to choose what he most wanted: Belle or his money. And he simply choose money over his own domestic partner by walking away. The present day Scrooge has strongly implied to have remembered to what he had done after so many years and he breaks down in guilty for being selfish. And even though he redeemed nothing can ever heal the pain Scrooge caused himself. In other words he is left to live with for what he had done until he dies.
According to Brian Henson, they lost the original masters/negatives, so they only have VHS transfers, which were noticeably lower quality than the rest of the film, particularly in HD. www.bigissue.com/culture/why-is-the-best-part-of-the-muppet-christmas-carol-still-missing/
@@megelizabeth9492 But the scene is right here! They don't need the original negatives! They can download the scene from here and place it into the movie. Problem solved.
@@megelizabeth9492 I don't think anybody would care at this point. It's only for three minutes, and it's a temporary lowering of quality is a small price to pay.
For years I’ve thought that the 1951 portrayal of Scrooge by Alistair Sim was the definitive portrayal of the character, but as I’ve got older, I feel that this performance by Michael Caine is every bit as good, if not better.
There have been several scrooges the only ones I know of is Reginald Owen, Alistair Sim, Sir Patrick Stewart, Bill Murray, Michael Caine, and Jim Carrey these are the only scrooges I know of there was another scrooge that would be number seven on my list but I couldn't remember the actors name so I'll have to keep this information as it is until further notice
The older I get the heavier this song weighs on my heart. The lyrics are amazingly powerful. It makes me think of past loves that fell through and loved ones who aren't here anymore. I can't help but weep as I wonder if my heart might indeed implode this time.
I feel fortunate to have grown up with this not being cut. I do admit it made me cry every time. As a musician it works so well musically. As an artist it works so well contextually and thematically it's a disservice to cut it and rob everyone of one of the most visceral points of the story. He let romantic love get away to focus on greed for money. This scene and song truly depicts heartbreak in hindsight. It should be learned through this as to avoid direct experience if possible. Plus it's just such an epic apex of writing and execution of music and cinema combined it's deeply a tragedy to have lost it on modern audiences. I think they just thought it was too heavy for kids but in a world where maturity equals violence it's a welcome yet subtle peek into adulthood that can advantageously be appreciated.
I could not agree more. I loved this song so much as a child. I decided to show my partner the film and when we watched I was couldn't believe it wasn't there.
@NikKaussFlies ikr. Same with me and mine. Just not there. To me, and to a degree, that's the emotional crescendo of the movie next to the end parts. It's like taking the bridge of a song out. A great one. It works but it's really missing something important. To me anyway.
A while ago, I saw this in the cinema for one of those seasonal movie showings for Christmas. I was pleasantly surprised when this scene came up, its good to see this scene back in the film where it belongs
Did not know this scene was cut. I still own the original VHS and this defined the entire movie for me as a child. I felt Scrooge's pain when he sang along. Children are innocent and ignorant to things but not stupid, i absolutely understood this scene as a child.
This is such a pivotal scene (like literally, it's the emotional pivot of the film imo) that it's wild to me that they cut it. I'm so glad it's being restored. The last verse definitely pops into my head every couple of months and I find myself coming to CZcams to rewatch it.
This song literally gives me chills! And when Michael Caine cries I cry right along with him! I will always pause the movie and come here to view this beautiful missing scene
Ebenezer singing with Belle and breaking down never fails to bring a tear to the eye but what hurts as well is Rizzo is almost inconsolable and Charles Dickens' (Gonzo's) soft "Oh Rizzo" while he hugs his friend tightly shows that we the audience (with Rizzo as the audience surrogate) are changing our perspective on the "unpleasant fella" we met in the beginning
I recently went to see Muppet Christmas Carol with the song and this scene intact at an Odeon Cinema in England. If you hurry, you may still be able to see it.
This was my favorite Christmas movie as a child and still is 25 years later. I can’t explain how every year I watch this movie the sadder it gets for me. Even as a kid I felt the hurt but didn’t fully understand why. This movie taught us about heartbreak at a young age and it’s stuck with me. I’ve had a Belle in my life and I’m still hurt from it and trying to shake it but it feels impossible. I know it’s pathetic because it’s the Muppets, but the song and scene in this movie is so powerful I’m amazed not many people know about it.
You can really feel the regret he was keeping locked inside him all that time. It's amazing how a Muppet movie can have such good dramatic acting. Kudos to Michael Caine.
I'll never get this being cut out of the film, considering how much it emphasises how Scrooge went wrong and is hurt inside by regret over his past choices, and shows that When Love Is Found is a reprisal of the song later in the film with a positive outcome. Hell, the makers didn't have any problem with Martina McBride doing a version of When Love Is Gone for the end credits - why cut _this_ version out? Mind you, as powerful as this song and scene is, I have to ask - why the hell is Belle SMILING throughout when this is supposed to be heartbreaking?!
Because Belle is making a choice she isn't going to regret. She said her goodbyes to an engagement that wasn't never going to become a marriage, a fiance that continues to make empty promises, an unhappy life with no future.
My honest opinion is that it may be partly that it finally may have been a relief that she felt the closure she needed, but also she could still remember some of the happier parts of the relationship that newer love can bring, despite the end of it.
This scene is so heartbreaking. It gets me everytime. You can see Scrooge starting to change in Michael Caine's expression. The melody is extremely similar to the love we found. As a musician I adore simple songs like this , they pack such a powerful emotional punch
When I was a kid, I used to fast forward through this song because I thought it was slow and boring and didnt have much to do with the Muppets. Now 37, I listen to this song and reflection of my own life and the loves I miss so much. It reminds me of the mistakes I made in the past and how to better myself when it comes to someone I love. GO AFTER HER!!! GO AFTER HER!!!! I would have shouted!!! We all have that first love that got away and wish we could have again, but alas he or she chose someone else. That's what hurts the most when youre an adult
I’m watching muppet Christmas Carol on Disney+ and had to pause it to watch this scene because Disney still haven’t added it back! It’s the most poignant scene in the whole movie and was my favourite as a child.
Not only is the song powerful, but the acting from everyone (not just Michael Caine) was frankly phenominal...at least I think so... The look she gives him near the start of the song where her body leans away but her head leans towards like she's talking herself into this course despite the pain...his continued gestures of affection growing more and more halfhearted as understanding dawns...seeing him turn back -- even when blurry -- for one last look before walking away... Hell, even the bridge! She comes onto the bridge from one direction with Young Scrooge on the left side, and Michael Caine's Scrooge approaches from the right and NEVER crosses the bridge because he can't go backwards in life to a time where this mistake could be fixed...It's all amazing
Yes! This is a beautiful scene on so many levels because of the subtle shifts and movements. Every time young Scrooge comes near Belle she lets him get almost to her only to move and keep walking forward.
This song has no business being so powerful in a Muppet movie, but I was devastated when it was cut. So glad you can see it in the movie if you go to the special features!
Absolutely horrified when they cut this song from this timeless classic. Only reason I keep my VHS player is to watch this scene in the film where it belongs. Without this beautiful song this scene seems so rushed and unimportant when this is a huge turning point in Scrooge's development.
They should’ve never have cut this song out cause it softly introduces emotions to children and what are children who don’t know how to handle/understand their emotions 😰 this will always be a part of the movie imho
I have good news! I own a dvd version with this scene intact and upon curiosity tonight I found more copies on Ebay. It's the 50th anniversary edition and it has a white case. You're welcome!
I watched it just today on Disney + and unfortunately this scene is not on there. They cut it out. 😢😢 I’m soo upset they did. I watched this since I was a little girl. I’m 35 now. May you rest in peace Jim Henson. Thank you for the movies you made!!
when Scrooge touches Belle's shoulder and she walks away saying "I wish you well..." the look in both young and old Scrooge is quite telling. Such a good scene
Should be a crime that this song was deleted.. I remember I brought the dvd like 3 years ago to watch with my kids for Christmas then it cut at the party and rizzo was crying for no reason.. Bah humbug
When bel seemed to almost look at old scrooge and he seemingly tries to get her attention to no avail... God, it hurts The acting of every human and muppet involved in this movie is simply phenomenal
thank you. I have the movie on dvd but every time I watch it I have to pause and come to youtube to insert this heartbreaking, beautiful missing scene...
I never saw the film with the song included, I never even knew it existed until I discovered the scene a few years back on YT. But even without knowing there was a song cut, I always found the transition weird. She just says "you did once" and then leaves. No explanation, no goodbye, no emotion, nothing. It made Rizzo's sudden burst into tears over something as trivial and unemotional as that seem all the more exaggerated. I always found it strange that a movie that's so well-constructed would give so little thought to the most important part of the story... the break-up of Scrooge and Belle. Turns out it DID give the scene a lot of thought. I can see some people finding this song boring, it's definitely not in the same style as the rest of the movie. But even so, it's essential in my view. So essential, that it was missed without even knowing it existed. Very good that they found it!
Yeah, the scene makes more sense with the song in it. With Scrooge saying “I love you, Belle”, and Belle saying “ you did once” without her transitioning to the song, it comes off more as just her saying “🤬 you.” And walking away. It’d be like if in Bambi, they showed the clip of Bambi and his mom eating the new spring grass, and just cutting straight to the part where the Great Prince says “your mother can’t be with you anymore”. Or if in The Lion King, if the gorge scene started with Scar tricking Simba about the quote-on-quote “surprise” and then just cutting away to him telling Simba to run away. But, with the song included, this gives this scene the emotional punch it’s supposed to have, especially given that a major part of the story of A Christmas Carol is that the pain of Scrooge’s breakup with Belle played a big part in turning him into a stingy cheapskate.
There was a time when I was sure That you and I were truly one That our future was forever And would never come undone And we came so close to being close And though you cared for me There's distance in your eyes tonight So we're not meant to be The love is gone The love is gone The sweetest dream That we have ever known The love is gone The love is gone I wish you well But I must leave you now alone There comes a moment in your life Like a window and you see Your future there before you And how perfect life can be But adventure calls with unknown voices Pulling you away Be careful or you may regret The choice you make someday When love is gone When love is gone The sweetest dream That we have ever known When love is gone When love is gone I wish you well But I must leave you now alone [BELLE and OLD SCROOGE] It was almost love It was almost always It was like a fairytale we'd live out You and I And yes some dreams come true And yes some dreams fall through [BELLE] And yes the time has come for us to say goodbye Yes some dreams come true Yes some dreams fall through And yes the time has come for us to say goodbye
I love how when Ebenezer meets Belle (i.e. the SPRING of their relationship), she's in a bright green dress. But when Belle breaks up with him (i.e. the fall/winter of their relationship), she's wearing an orange dress. It's just beautiful symbolism.
I remember being little and absolutely heartbroken at this scene even though I didn't fully understand why they weren't together I sobbed my little heart out...and maybe still do.
Also, this is the scene when Scrooge fully realises why he is the man he is. It fully broke him down in order for Ghost of Christmas Present to build him up again and then the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come seals the transformation. It's pivotal. It's not just a heartbreaking song and a terrific performance from Michael Caine, but a vital scene for the character of Scrooge.
I am watching it right now on Disney plus and flipped shit when I realized they cut this song! It is my favorite scene and my favorite song in the movie. It used to make me cry even as a kid so I was fully prepared with tissues on hand for the tears to start flowing...just to see they went from her walking away to Rizzo crying on Gonzo's shoulder, skipping this entire song and scene. Honestly it makes me want to get rid of Disney Plus if they're gonna cut entire scenes from classics for ANY reason. This scene was my main reason of wanting to watch the movie. It's the scene I remembered best of all next to the Marley's song.
The problem was Disney cut it from the theatrical version but included it in the VHS release, then lost the negatives that contained the scene, meaning they could never properly upscale and restore it to match the rest of the film. Luckily, after over 20 years, someone found the negatives! So they’re up scaling the film to 4K and when it’s done it’ll be on the Disney + version.
I heard when Disney bought out Jim Henson they decided it was an unneeded scene and kids wouldnt watch it....I dunno, but all i know is the version without it needs to be erased from history and the WHOLE movie needs to be reinstated. I was so mad when I bought it years back on amazon video. Even though it was a digital copy they gave me my money back and just took away my watching rights, so that was good. But yeah, this scene gives all the feels and makes the final song more meaning. Very thankful for this video on here.
I really do not understand the other comments but Thank you! Thank you ever so much for this scene! The moment Scrooge truly begins to change, is within this song. The end song even contains the same motif and they decided to cut it. That is very disappointing. Thank you for posting this
A total and utter mistake to remove from the film. We saw it at the cinema, laughed our asses off and cried at this bit. I've taught text about 10 times now and each time, I've missed being able to use this. It made no sense as the edit went to Rizzo crying from the previous scenes. Great to see it alive and well here. This is arguably 'the' single most important part of the reason why he goes so cold and becomes the right fisted, hand to the grindstone we all know him to be.
Thank you for putting this online. This is my favorite Christmas movie and this cut really hurts. There was little reason for it. I am grateful it still exists somewhere. A bad call.
Watched this movie the other night and was gutted to see this song taken out! It was one of the most important songs in the movie. Emotional even to my child self back then
This scene came up in the GCSE exam this morning. The question the students had to write an essay on was based on how Dickens shows the way that greed spoils things for people. Oh my word, how I would love to have a go at that, given this song to help me picture the emotion of the scene and then write about the content and context. Bravo AQA.
It's on Disney + in the Extras section! I always pause the movie at that scene, then go to the extras to watch it, then back to the movie. A bit cumbersome but I have to watch that scene.
Yes, I always pause the movie before this scene and pull up this clip on my iPad so that I can see the complete movie. It’s not the same movie without this scene. Thank You So Much!!
Scrooge: Spirit show me no more. Why do you delight in torturing me? Spirit: I told you these are the shadows of things that have been. That they are what they are, do not blame me! Scrooge: Leave me!
The way present Scrooge looks at her... he loved her and realizes he screwed up. This clearly always haunted him & now he's become an old man, filled with regret, waiting to die alone.
This is a true example of a movie that gets better as you get older. As a kid you love seeing the Muppets of course and Scrooge’s redemption. But as an adult, with experiences of your own, it hits you right where it hurts, and I love it.
This SONG!! Im watching the movie RN and have to pause ⏯️ it to hear this song/part. (I was only 7 when my dad took me to see this movie in the theaters and I've never forgotten the song) thank God for being able watch it on CZcams.
When you have to pause the movie and come to CZcams real quick to include this absolutely essential scene. See you next year!
😂 I'm just doing that now 2023
Same. Until a version comes out with it back, I’ll add it myself every year
My friends were quite confused when I went I paused Disney+ & opened youtube but it's required watching.
Lol so glad it's not just me 😂
Same, every year!
Two major reasons this song should've been kept:
1. It shows Scrooge's pain regarding this memory significantly better. The very fact he starts singing along with her lets the audience know how hurt he is by this and how he's been hanging on ever since it happened since he remembers the lyrics so effortlessly.
2. The ending song, The Love We Found, hits way harder since it's a reflection of this song and shows the peace Scrooge finally came to.
Bingo!!!!!
Exactly.
Also it’s just weird and jarring to have the muppets suddenly crying their eyes out just because somebody walked out of frame. (And I know they’re meant to be sad because the engagement’s been called off, but it just doesn’t have the same weight.)
100%. I was very upset to find this song missing in the new movie I bought to replace the original Muppet Christmas Carol that I once had. Loved this part of the movie.
Probably the only instance where I chose fullscreen over widescreen on the dvd menu
It's so funny how they cut this scene because they thought younger audiences would have no interest and then it turned out to be the most iconic scene of the movie. It's been my favorite scene since I was a child
This is my first time watching
@VV4FF13Z Same... I finally watched a copy online because I've lost my ancient tape, and when this song didn't play it felt so wrong.
I was 6 when this movie came out, and it taught me that Michael Caine is a BOSS. This scene was no small part of that, even then. I understood that "Goodbye forever" was a really sad thing, and it also proved he had a heart in there because I could see it breaking *again* for something from so long ago.
As an adult - nobody can break your heart & keep you coming back to it like Paul Williams can
@@lilMissmAlice I totally agree. This came out when I was 10 and it was the turning point for the whole movie. It was the time he appeared to actually be moved deeply by his past with regards to his present. Sure not all kids will like it. But not all of anybody likes everything. Kids are fully capable of recognizing the feeling and deep meaning of a scene even if they lack the life experience to fully empathize.
Same here
7 year old me sobbed!
I was FURIOUS when they took this out of the movie. This is one of the most important character building scenes in the film and a dang beautiful song!
When I was a kid I would cry everytime, we had the original video release.
@@8bitexplorer459 Same, we recorded it on VHS with a dozen other Christmas specials. I enjoy watching the clippets of old commercials.
They didn’t on-purpose remove it. They lost the actual film for it for about 20 years.
@@Dynamosouthernbelle7 😢
@@Dynamosouthernbelle7 Uh, no it was cut out of the original movie on purpose.
As someone who had a VHS version of this film with the song growing up, I was absolutely gutted when I found out it was cut from most later versions. I'll never understand it. This is one of the most powerful emotional moments in the film --- not to mention one of the most important moments in Scrooge's life. Not only does "The Love We've Found," not make sense without it, but this scene doesn't even really make sense either. He says, "I love you, Belle," she says, "You did once," and then leaves, and we see Rizzo crying. It's all very abrupt, and completely changes the feeling of the scene. A moment that's supposed to be heartbreaking and emotional just ends up feeling... chilly.
Oh absolutely! I grew up with the vhs too
@@jazminedwards9336 I remember seeing that scene myself.
@@isaacwall4951 and then I watched it on Disney+ and it was just GONE (Nsync's voices) 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️😭😭😭😭
I read an article where Disney was pretending that this song was never in the movie and that they had recovered a brand new song that they were going to put into the story. These jerks really don’t think we remember things this profound and moving.
And the full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.
This was my ex wife and I's favorite movie and this song has so much more meaning now. I was basically Scrooge in that I chased the money instead of chasing family. When I finally realized what was actually important in life, it was too late. The love really was gone and I think about it all the time.
Had to talk to my current to teach her to slow down…enjoy life. Stop focusing on money & START LIVING. I love her and don’t want her to have the same regrets I do.
There’s a lot of people out there who’ve experienced this myself included except it was me being in the Scrooge role
They need to reinstate this Scene on Disney+ already!!!
Good news, they're working on it, in 4K!
@@guitarsunplugged They're taking too long
@@guitarsunplugged Maybe i will wait to watch it next year
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@@curtthegamer934 they only re found it 3 weeks ago it takes time
I’m so glad they found the negatives for this scene, because the film is lacking without it. When Ebenezer begins to sing with her, I lose it every time.
I was hoping they would put it back in on Disney+ this year but sadly they didn't
@@kirbystarnino4199 I was disappointed too, I thought it was ready in 2020 :(
I heard they’re thinking about releasing it for the 30 year anniversary
@@kirbystarnino4199 it’s in the Extras section. I don’t know why it’s not edited back into the movie, but it’s there.
And the full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.
The redemption arc makes no sense without it. The Love is Gone is redeemed and becomes the Love we've found. The ending doesn't make sense without this
It's called when love is gone & when love is found
It does! It's just lesser without it. :(
It's when Scrooge starts singing with her and breaks down that I lose it. Scrooge's regret and wishing he could have changed his past, but he can't.
With this scene not in the original you lose a lot of the emotional weight of the second half of the movie.
Madness that it was removed! I told somebody about it being removed because it was too sad and they said
"TOO SAD?! Have they seen the ending to Toy Story 3?!"
"Bless us All" is literally an answer song to this. It carries a similar cadence and its placement in the present sequence correlates with this song in the past sequence. It balances out the movie!
@@smashfanwii So true, as is the title in connection to this. Love is Gone here, and Love is Found at end, when Scrooge makes peace with things.
@@johnalbent init!! And tiny Tim!? Like how was that not too sad and as a kid I loved that scene! But I always forwarded the Future scene cause it used to scare me and make me sad so they fucked up if thats the reason smh
@@johnalbent love is definitely gone
I'm absolutely one of those '90s kids who would tune out when this part kicked in. When I was watching it for the first time on Disney+ and they just skipped over it completely, it felt SO wrong. We truly see Scrooge at his most vulnerable. And, most importantly, it is a very beautiful song that's sung incredibly well. It never fails to bring tears to my eyes when Scrooge joins in.
Watching this movie every Christmas has been a tradition in my family since I was a baby. When we realized they cut this song on Disneyplus (they hadn’t added the extended version yet) we paused it in horror and my dad said, “Oh, I’m writing a strongly worded letter to Disney.”
this scene was so perfect because it really shows Scrooge's character depth. You see young Scrooge leave so you assume "oh he must have never really loved her"
THEN you see old Scrooge try to sing along as almost as if it's like an old song they shared as a couple and despite years of not hearing it, he does remember it. This indicates that he does remember Belle. He does remember loving her deeply and upon seeing his reaction, he does deeply regret letting her go
The greatest Christmas film of all time. Despite it being a muppets film, Michael Caine produces a masterclass and quite possibly the best version of scrooge.
And what is wrong with it being a Muppets movie?
@@tmnt10000. Absolutely nothing, love this version !!!!
The scene that sticks with me and why I like this song is the moment Michael Caine steps in and sings in tears. I felt that sadness and regret he was showing
It's beautifully done on the level that the past Scrooge can't sing along, because this is just happening to him and he doesn't understand it. Whereas the older Scrooge not only understands it all too well, but he's probably subconsciously relived this moment endless times.
This scene shows why Scrooge turned out the way he did. All about lost love and bad choices and the regret you feel. Why he tried to ease his pain with wealth and hoarding because of his loss and emptiness he felt.
The full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.
@@natedoggg2002 I really hope so
From commentary on Patrick Stewarts Christmas Carol: Here is a man who has turned to profit because he sincerely believes everyone and everything else will betray him...or leave him, the instant he trusts them. That is what 'humbug' literally means -pretending to a fake loftiness or false sincerity.
"those who are heartless once cared too much"
Every time I watch this movie, at this scene, I pause, then come here to watch this song, then resume the movie
It belongs in the movie, Disney!
Just did that 😜
First off, my phone and possibly yours, allows casting the CZcams video to a TV. It's obscenely easy: there's an icon at the top that lets you do it and it really works. I did that last night. I watched until this scene came up, paused my movie and cast this to my TV, then I resumed the movie.
Also the original of this scene was finally discovered and a proper version should be released next year!
@@stephenshelton4267Not sure why you felt the need to correct us when that's literally what we said we did 🤔
I did hear about the finding of the footage, and I do agree that it is very exciting 😊
@@stephspoilsstuff I think the way I wrote it was aggressive for some reason and my point was lost. It wasn't my intent! The thing I was trying to convey is that it's really easy to pause the movie, send the scene to the TV you're already watching and then switch back.
Jumping to CZcams, or VHS like someone mentioned in another thread, can be a cumbersome process. In fact it was for me when I first played a digital version of the movie: I just played it off the tiny screen and speakers of my phone. This year I noticed that casting feature and it makes things so easy, but thankfully this will be the last year of it!
@@stephenshelton4267 I appreciate that 😊 streaming does make things much easier!
Just now when she sang, "yes some dreams come true, yes some dreams fall through" my entire body started tingling and I got goosebumps. I love this song.
That line with older Scrooge in the back breaking down while looking at her has ruined me since I was 6 years old. Even the parts as Belle’s singing, when he approaches her and she moves away from him, it rips my heart out. 😢
I get it that they wanted to remove this thinking that kids wouldn't relate but A Christmas Carol is not a children's story. It's a classic and the story is focused on Scrooge's emotional transformation. This song helps us see this and children can have a couple minutes to contemplate emotions that they might not ordinarily. There are lots of other fun and upbeat moments, that's why this is a Muppets movie! Both sides can be there, that's why I always liked this movie (but I always saw it with this song!)
As Gonzo said, “it’s culture!”
I hated this part as a kid.
@@AshleyWilliams-xq7lj You probably hated homework too, but it's good for you, so grownups made you do it. American shows have always dumbed down stuff way too much for audiences. Even adult ones. For me, this is in the category of character-building, and I will make my kids watch it every year haha.
@@christheleavittman7080 That exchange between Rizzo and Gonzo (Charles Dickens) definitely has meme potential right there)
*Insert scary scene from random film or show*
Rizzo: “*shudders* That’s scary stuff! Shouldn’t we be concerned about the kids in the audience?”
Gonzo/Charles Dickens: “No, it’s alright. This is just culture.”
Then why is the movie G rated
As soon as Scrooge started crying, I started crying too! 😭
This is is such a powerful moment. Scrooge spent his whole life remembering this as his fiance leaving him; but you can see when his younger self turns away he has this look of "what are you doing?" He finally sees what she sees, that he didn't care. So he does what he now believes he should have done, and he goes to stand with her.
One of the most powerful scenes in the film. Some years ago, I broke up with a boyfriend and had been through a lot. When Christmas came, watching this scene beared more weight for me. Especially when Scrooge sings with her, full of regret. Somehow this scene to me has strong spiritual significance and I lose it every time.
Same
Same. This song has a power I am incapable of describing. The woman singing hits every note and emotion perfectly.
I know how this feels same here! :(
Mom passed 1 week before Christmas in 09. Since then Christmas just seems…to be missing something. This year is different. I’ve been talking with someone that I’m head over heels for. The holidays actually feel more magical & warm because of her.
Similar story, and here in 2023, bawling like a baby. It's the "yes some dreams come true, and yes some dreams fall through, and yes, the time has come for us to say goodbye" that does it. If you've loved and lost, the last goodbye sticks. And the fact it sits in the middle of a Muppet joyfest like a fucking landmine just makes it all the more effective
It's ashamed that they got rid of the song, but kept the reprise "The Love We Found" and the ending credits pop version.😔
This gives a much a reason for Rizzo to cry & it shows the heartbreak and regret in Scrooge's eyes.
2:43 is very good directing. You can clearly see young Scrooge is in a catch 22 situation. He had to choose what he most wanted: Belle or his money. And he simply choose money over his own domestic partner by walking away. The present day Scrooge has strongly implied to have remembered to what he had done after so many years and he breaks down in guilty for being selfish. And even though he redeemed nothing can ever heal the pain Scrooge caused himself. In other words he is left to live with for what he had done until he dies.
I'm thrilled that this scene is in glorious HD!! I wish Disney would splice this back into the film!
According to Brian Henson, they lost the original masters/negatives, so they only have VHS transfers, which were noticeably lower quality than the rest of the film, particularly in HD.
www.bigissue.com/culture/why-is-the-best-part-of-the-muppet-christmas-carol-still-missing/
@@megelizabeth9492 that's believable seeing as a majority of source material for "Hocus Pocus" does not appear on any releases.
@@megelizabeth9492 But the scene is right here! They don't need the original negatives! They can download the scene from here and place it into the movie. Problem solved.
It’s still much lower quality than the rest of the movie would be.
@@megelizabeth9492 I don't think anybody would care at this point. It's only for three minutes, and it's a temporary lowering of quality is a small price to pay.
For years I’ve thought that the 1951 portrayal of Scrooge by Alistair Sim was the definitive portrayal of the character, but as I’ve got older, I feel that this performance by Michael Caine is every bit as good, if not better.
There have been several scrooges the only ones I know of is Reginald Owen, Alistair Sim, Sir Patrick Stewart, Bill Murray, Michael Caine, and Jim Carrey these are the only scrooges I know of there was another scrooge that would be number seven on my list but I couldn't remember the actors name so I'll have to keep this information as it is until further notice
George C. Scott he's scrooge number seven on my list anyway that's all
Also, Albert Finney!
@@01Sharondun that's now scrooge number eight on the list
@@nighthawksview.2380 Glad to help!!
The older I get the heavier this song weighs on my heart. The lyrics are amazingly powerful. It makes me think of past loves that fell through and loved ones who aren't here anymore. I can't help but weep as I wonder if my heart might indeed implode this time.
This scene shows that his heart wasn't always cold but he became obsessed with wealth, wich cost him the woman he loved
I feel fortunate to have grown up with this not being cut. I do admit it made me cry every time. As a musician it works so well musically. As an artist it works so well contextually and thematically it's a disservice to cut it and rob everyone of one of the most visceral points of the story. He let romantic love get away to focus on greed for money. This scene and song truly depicts heartbreak in hindsight. It should be learned through this as to avoid direct experience if possible. Plus it's just such an epic apex of writing and execution of music and cinema combined it's deeply a tragedy to have lost it on modern audiences. I think they just thought it was too heavy for kids but in a world where maturity equals violence it's a welcome yet subtle peek into adulthood that can advantageously be appreciated.
I could not agree more. I loved this song so much as a child. I decided to show my partner the film and when we watched I was couldn't believe it wasn't there.
@NikKaussFlies ikr. Same with me and mine. Just not there. To me, and to a degree, that's the emotional crescendo of the movie next to the end parts. It's like taking the bridge of a song out. A great one. It works but it's really missing something important. To me anyway.
A while ago, I saw this in the cinema for one of those seasonal movie showings for Christmas. I was pleasantly surprised when this scene came up, its good to see this scene back in the film where it belongs
Did not know this scene was cut. I still own the original VHS and this defined the entire movie for me as a child. I felt Scrooge's pain when he sang along. Children are innocent and ignorant to things but not stupid, i absolutely understood this scene as a child.
This is such a pivotal scene (like literally, it's the emotional pivot of the film imo) that it's wild to me that they cut it. I'm so glad it's being restored. The last verse definitely pops into my head every couple of months and I find myself coming to CZcams to rewatch it.
This song literally gives me chills! And when Michael Caine cries I cry right along with him! I will always pause the movie and come here to view this beautiful missing scene
I do the same...thats how I found your comment...Kindred spirit!
why did they take it out!!!!
@@HeatherReich-vd3fl I don’t know, it’s such an important scene and the actors do an amazing job! Their voices too!! I hope they put it back in
Ebenezer singing with Belle and breaking down never fails to bring a tear to the eye but what hurts as well is Rizzo is almost inconsolable and Charles Dickens' (Gonzo's) soft "Oh Rizzo" while he hugs his friend tightly shows that we the audience (with Rizzo as the audience surrogate) are changing our perspective on the "unpleasant fella" we met in the beginning
This song was pivotal to understanding why Scrooge became the way he was. It should never have been removed, wish they would reintroduce it!
Do you have disney plus?
@@ChristopherPin is the full version on there?!
@@tettyfelarious2304 yes it is, if you go on bonuses on the muppets christmas carol you can watch the full movie there 😊
I recently went to see Muppet Christmas Carol with the song and this scene intact at an Odeon Cinema in England. If you hurry, you may still be able to see it.
@@tettyfelarious2304 yes it is, sorry for the late reply, if you go into the extras of the movie the full version is there
We all know that somewhere out there, there’s a fanfiction where Scrooge reunites with an elderly belle.
If not there will be soon. Maybe someone is writing right now as we speak👀
Someone should Rewrite it but without the message and character development
@@juliamazonidasilvapereira4327 is it you? ....
@@lcmc4846 Who knows? hahaha just kidding, I've never written a fanfiction before. Maybe someday
@@juliamazonidasilvapereira4327 me neither or read it. You start it I’ll finish it. 😆
This was my favorite Christmas movie as a child and still is 25 years later. I can’t explain how every year I watch this movie the sadder it gets for me. Even as a kid I felt the hurt but didn’t fully understand why. This movie taught us about heartbreak at a young age and it’s stuck with me. I’ve had a Belle in my life and I’m still hurt from it and trying to shake it but it feels impossible. I know it’s pathetic because it’s the Muppets, but the song and scene in this movie is so powerful I’m amazed not many people know about it.
Glad I have the vhs from the 90s so I can watch in peace. I still know all the words. #38 🧡
You can really feel the regret he was keeping locked inside him all that time. It's amazing how a Muppet movie can have such good dramatic acting. Kudos to Michael Caine.
I'm imagining being an actress and singing a whole song while Michael Caine is crying behind me.
Then they cut it out the movie :(
@@lcmc4846 They put it back in the original home version. I saw it as a kid.
@@teacherdoug1797 I watched it other week on Disney and it wasn’t on it.... so lead me to my song search to make sure it was a real memory 😆
@@lcmc4846 On Disney+ well I have something to say about that how dare you you put that song in the film I mean now Nooooooooooow
@@lcmc4846 The full version, restoring "When Love Is Gone," will be on Disney+ on December 9th.
Finally!! An HD widescreen version of the song; the Blu-Ray uses only the theatrical edit in widescreen.
I never knew this was in it. Oh my makes the story full. Should be put back in. Beautiful. Now we know why Scrooge is the way he is.
Yeah.
Exactly. A heartbreak of a lost love, which is why he had trouble expressing love again.
I'll never get this being cut out of the film, considering how much it emphasises how Scrooge went wrong and is hurt inside by regret over his past choices, and shows that When Love Is Found is a reprisal of the song later in the film with a positive outcome. Hell, the makers didn't have any problem with Martina McBride doing a version of When Love Is Gone for the end credits - why cut _this_ version out?
Mind you, as powerful as this song and scene is, I have to ask - why the hell is Belle SMILING throughout when this is supposed to be heartbreaking?!
Because Belle is making a choice she isn't going to regret. She said her goodbyes to an engagement that wasn't never going to become a marriage, a fiance that continues to make empty promises, an unhappy life with no future.
@@cater06 I never thought of it that way - good answer.
My honest opinion is that it may be partly that it finally may have been a relief that she felt the closure she needed, but also she could still remember some of the happier parts of the relationship that newer love can bring, despite the end of it.
This scene is so heartbreaking. It gets me everytime. You can see Scrooge starting to change in Michael Caine's expression. The melody is extremely similar to the love we found. As a musician I adore simple songs like this , they pack such a powerful emotional punch
When I was a kid, I used to fast forward through this song because I thought it was slow and boring and didnt have much to do with the Muppets. Now 37, I listen to this song and reflection of my own life and the loves I miss so much. It reminds me of the mistakes I made in the past and how to better myself when it comes to someone I love. GO AFTER HER!!! GO AFTER HER!!!! I would have shouted!!! We all have that first love that got away and wish we could have again, but alas he or she chose someone else. That's what hurts the most when youre an adult
I love how when Scrooge tires to hold Belle, she walks away from him, as if telling him not to touch her, how she’s done with him.
I’m watching muppet Christmas Carol on Disney+ and had to pause it to watch this scene because Disney still haven’t added it back! It’s the most poignant scene in the whole movie and was my favourite as a child.
the scene gets sadder when you realize that the romantic lit background is actually the sunset. truly an excellent movie
Not only is the song powerful, but the acting from everyone (not just Michael Caine) was frankly phenominal...at least I think so...
The look she gives him near the start of the song where her body leans away but her head leans towards like she's talking herself into this course despite the pain...his continued gestures of affection growing more and more halfhearted as understanding dawns...seeing him turn back -- even when blurry -- for one last look before walking away...
Hell, even the bridge! She comes onto the bridge from one direction with Young Scrooge on the left side, and Michael Caine's Scrooge approaches from the right and NEVER crosses the bridge because he can't go backwards in life to a time where this mistake could be fixed...It's all amazing
Yes! This is a beautiful scene on so many levels because of the subtle shifts and movements. Every time young Scrooge comes near Belle she lets him get almost to her only to move and keep walking forward.
Hadn't put the bridge symbolism together, but you're right! 😶
Great catch! 👍
You broke it all down very well.
I’d also point out that when Old Scrooge sings along with Belle, it’s because he NEVER forgot that day and what she said(sang).
Bravo. I couldn't have said it better.
This song has no business being so powerful in a Muppet movie, but I was devastated when it was cut. So glad you can see it in the movie if you go to the special features!
This scene is the emotional core of the whole film and they still haven't put it back in! It's infuriating.
They slept on this song and scene, but it made the movie for me 🥺
Saw this on the big screen..........CRIED.
This beautiful song sells Rizzo’s cry at the end a lot more
I'm a grown man 38 years old and this whole film makes me cry
Just like Rizzo, I cried just as much too.
Such a beautiful woman with a lovely voice. I hate that it's cut out.
I agree. This beautiful deserved so much better from Scrooge.
Absolutely horrified when they cut this song from this timeless classic. Only reason I keep my VHS player is to watch this scene in the film where it belongs. Without this beautiful song this scene seems so rushed and unimportant when this is a huge turning point in Scrooge's development.
They should’ve never have cut this song out cause it softly introduces emotions to children and what are children who don’t know how to handle/understand their emotions 😰 this will always be a part of the movie imho
I have good news! I own a dvd version with this scene intact and upon curiosity tonight I found more copies on Ebay. It's the 50th anniversary edition and it has a white case. You're welcome!
I'm so thankful they finally added this to a version on Disney Plus, so the people who never knew this song can finally experience it.
They did? I watched this movie last Christmas and it wasn't on there.
It's not in the Disney+ version. Mum and I just watched it not too long ago, and I was furious 🤬 that the song got cut out.
The song isn’t actually in the movie on Disney+
But it’s still on there
I watched it just today on Disney + and unfortunately this scene is not on there. They cut it out. 😢😢 I’m soo upset they did. I watched this since I was a little girl. I’m 35 now. May you rest in peace Jim Henson. Thank you for the movies you made!!
@@VioletaWestfordgo to the extras
This scene is such a beautiful one, and it helps you to understand Michael Caine's Ebenezer so much more. I really wish they had kept it in
when Scrooge touches Belle's shoulder and she walks away saying "I wish you well..." the look in both young and old Scrooge is quite telling. Such a good scene
I watched this movie a million times as a kid and this song and scene was one of my favorites in the movie.
Should be a crime that this song was deleted.. I remember I brought the dvd like 3 years ago to watch with my kids for Christmas then it cut at the party and rizzo was crying for no reason.. Bah humbug
When bel seemed to almost look at old scrooge and he seemingly tries to get her attention to no avail... God, it hurts
The acting of every human and muppet involved in this movie is simply phenomenal
every time i hear this song i always break down crying what a sweet song
thank you. I have the movie on dvd but every time I watch it I have to pause and come to youtube to insert this heartbreaking, beautiful missing scene...
I never saw the film with the song included, I never even knew it existed until I discovered the scene a few years back on YT. But even without knowing there was a song cut, I always found the transition weird. She just says "you did once" and then leaves. No explanation, no goodbye, no emotion, nothing. It made Rizzo's sudden burst into tears over something as trivial and unemotional as that seem all the more exaggerated.
I always found it strange that a movie that's so well-constructed would give so little thought to the most important part of the story... the break-up of Scrooge and Belle. Turns out it DID give the scene a lot of thought.
I can see some people finding this song boring, it's definitely not in the same style as the rest of the movie. But even so, it's essential in my view. So essential, that it was missed without even knowing it existed. Very good that they found it!
Yes. And hopefully they will put this right with the 30th anniversary 4K/Blu-ray release.
@@3000KJHit’s in the extended version on Disney +.
Yeah, the scene makes more sense with the song in it. With Scrooge saying “I love you, Belle”, and Belle saying “ you did once” without her transitioning to the song, it comes off more as just her saying “🤬 you.” And walking away. It’d be like if in Bambi, they showed the clip of Bambi and his mom eating the new spring grass, and just cutting straight to the part where the Great Prince says “your mother can’t be with you anymore”. Or if in The Lion King, if the gorge scene started with Scar tricking Simba about the quote-on-quote “surprise” and then just cutting away to him telling Simba to run away. But, with the song included, this gives this scene the emotional punch it’s supposed to have, especially given that a major part of the story of A Christmas Carol is that the pain of Scrooge’s breakup with Belle played a big part in turning him into a stingy cheapskate.
This completely set the stage for his grief and how he becomes cold. It’s a total sham it was left out
Our annual re-watch and we're pausing to watch this song
There was a time when I was sure
That you and I were truly one
That our future was forever
And would never come undone
And we came so close to being close
And though you cared for me
There's distance in your eyes tonight
So we're not meant to be
The love is gone
The love is gone
The sweetest dream
That we have ever known
The love is gone
The love is gone
I wish you well
But I must leave you now alone
There comes a moment in your life
Like a window and you see
Your future there before you
And how perfect life can be
But adventure calls with unknown voices
Pulling you away
Be careful or you may regret
The choice you make someday
When love is gone
When love is gone
The sweetest dream
That we have ever known
When love is gone
When love is gone
I wish you well
But I must leave you now alone
[BELLE and OLD SCROOGE]
It was almost love
It was almost always
It was like a fairytale we'd live out
You and I
And yes some dreams come true
And yes some dreams fall through
[BELLE]
And yes the time has come for us to say goodbye
Yes some dreams come true
Yes some dreams fall through
And yes the time has come for us to say goodbye
Scrooge was selfish and evil most of his adult life, but deep down he never recovered from the heartbreak.
I love how when Ebenezer meets Belle (i.e. the SPRING of their relationship), she's in a bright green dress. But when Belle breaks up with him (i.e. the fall/winter of their relationship), she's wearing an orange dress. It's just beautiful symbolism.
This is one of my favorite songs in the movie! Disney needs to put it back. The movie does not flow well without this song.
The movie is incomplete without this song.
I remember being little and absolutely heartbroken at this scene even though I didn't fully understand why they weren't together I sobbed my little heart out...and maybe still do.
It's such an iconic scene. They need to put it back
Also, this is the scene when Scrooge fully realises why he is the man he is. It fully broke him down in order for Ghost of Christmas Present to build him up again and then the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come seals the transformation. It's pivotal. It's not just a heartbreaking song and a terrific performance from Michael Caine, but a vital scene for the character of Scrooge.
Thank you so much for uploading this in HD! It's ridiculous the Disney+ version is missing this scene after all these years
Disney Plus has this song as a extra
I am watching it right now on Disney plus and flipped shit when I realized they cut this song! It is my favorite scene and my favorite song in the movie. It used to make me cry even as a kid so I was fully prepared with tissues on hand for the tears to start flowing...just to see they went from her walking away to Rizzo crying on Gonzo's shoulder, skipping this entire song and scene. Honestly it makes me want to get rid of Disney Plus if they're gonna cut entire scenes from classics for ANY reason. This scene was my main reason of wanting to watch the movie. It's the scene I remembered best of all next to the Marley's song.
The problem was Disney cut it from the theatrical version but included it in the VHS release, then lost the negatives that contained the scene, meaning they could never properly upscale and restore it to match the rest of the film.
Luckily, after over 20 years, someone found the negatives! So they’re up scaling the film to 4K and when it’s done it’ll be on the Disney + version.
I heard when Disney bought out Jim Henson they decided it was an unneeded scene and kids wouldnt watch it....I dunno, but all i know is the version without it needs to be erased from history and the WHOLE movie needs to be reinstated. I was so mad when I bought it years back on amazon video. Even though it was a digital copy they gave me my money back and just took away my watching rights, so that was good. But yeah, this scene gives all the feels and makes the final song more meaning. Very thankful for this video on here.
@@scottishjedi1522 It was never shown on HBO either
I really do not understand the other comments but Thank you! Thank you ever so much for this scene! The moment Scrooge truly begins to change, is within this song. The end song even contains the same motif and they decided to cut it. That is very disappointing. Thank you for posting this
A total and utter mistake to remove from the film. We saw it at the cinema, laughed our asses off and cried at this bit. I've taught text about 10 times now and each time, I've missed being able to use this. It made no sense as the edit went to Rizzo crying from the previous scenes. Great to see it alive and well here. This is arguably 'the' single most important part of the reason why he goes so cold and becomes the right fisted, hand to the grindstone we all know him to be.
This is the only Scrooge Christmas movie I like with the Muppets. It's the best one ever put out.
Thank you for putting this online. This is my favorite Christmas movie and this cut really hurts. There was little reason for it. I am grateful it still exists somewhere. A bad call.
Who else is opening this video in the middle of the movie since Disney decided to scrub this song from all modern versions of it, for some reason?
Me
@@blackswan4486 respect. Apparently there's another release coming out that finally restores it? Thank God.
Me
Watched this movie the other night and was gutted to see this song taken out! It was one of the most important songs in the movie. Emotional even to my child self back then
This scene came up in the GCSE exam this morning. The question the students had to write an essay on was based on how Dickens shows the way that greed spoils things for people. Oh my word, how I would love to have a go at that, given this song to help me picture the emotion of the scene and then write about the content and context. Bravo AQA.
It's on Disney + in the Extras section! I always pause the movie at that scene, then go to the extras to watch it, then back to the movie. A bit cumbersome but I have to watch that scene.
Yes, I always pause the movie before this scene and pull up this clip on my iPad so that I can see the complete movie. It’s not the same movie without this scene. Thank You So Much!!
Amazon's version is like that too. I need to bite the bullet and try to find a decent VCR so I can use my VHS next year.
Scrooge: Spirit show me no more. Why do you delight in torturing me?
Spirit: I told you these are the shadows of things that have been. That they are what they are, do not blame me!
Scrooge: Leave me!
The way present Scrooge looks at her... he loved her and realizes he screwed up. This clearly always haunted him & now he's become an old man, filled with regret, waiting to die alone.
Can't believe this has been cut from some versions. This is the strongest moment in the movie for me.
This is a true example of a movie that gets better as you get older. As a kid you love seeing the Muppets of course and Scrooge’s redemption. But as an adult, with experiences of your own, it hits you right where it hurts, and I love it.
Glad Disney put this back in... Now just move it from extras to the main movie...
Before this, Meredith Braun was one of the original Eponines in Les Mis, meaning she's two for two on *making me weep like a baby.*
The scene simply does not even work without this song. Nor the resolution in the “the Love We Found.”
So glad this scene is getting the revival it deserves !
Justice at last. We finally have our widescreen cut of the film. First on Disney Plus, and with luck, all future home video releases. Fans: We did it!
Oh right the full version is under extras. They should do that with Star Wars and have the original cuts of the films under extras on Disney+.
This SONG!! Im watching the movie RN and have to pause ⏯️ it to hear this song/part. (I was only 7 when my dad took me to see this movie in the theaters and I've never forgotten the song) thank God for being able watch it on CZcams.
It is just so insane how this was not there for so long, because it's such a beautiful song and scene
Got dang, Michael Caine knocked this one out the park.