Build your own solar battery, fast and cheap!
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- This was the fastest, and least expensive, DIY battery I've built. The modules have a thick aluminum case, housing 280Ah LiFePO4 cells. These might be the best option for building out your own solar battery bank. I'm re-using an old server rack, in a server cabinet, to house my batteries.
Intro: 00:00
Wiring Harness: 01:57
BMS Installation: 04:54
Capacity Test: 06:53
Cost Breakdown: 13:55
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Bed frames seem to turn up in my life regularly. Chop saw and a cheap welder builds me all kinds of racks and mainframes.
I've used bedframes on some projects. I remember once not being able to drill through it. Have you ran into that?
@@DavidPozEnergy yeah it is hardened. An option is the carbide bits for concrete will work.
@@DavidPozEnergy I used to pickup bed frames from along side the road and thought I'd use it for non critical projects in place of expensive angle. Well, I found out the same as you. You can't hardly drill thru them and try driving a self tapping screw into them. Not happening. I quit picking them up and rarely use the for anything now.
I wonder what they did in the process of making them that made them so hard?
@@jws3925 high grade steel and properly annealed- heat treatment
I end up with bedframes too. And aluminum ladders. Its a universal constant for me.
Fantastic!!
This is the ONLY channel that TEACHES me stuff! I sell solar(used to install) and I didnt realize how much i didnt know!
Sweet good vid David
Nice looking DIY
awesome work David! this set up is so impressive
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David, I purchased 4 of these modules, I only did a capacity test on one battery only and got 294 Ah. These are a incredible buy, I am using a smart Daly 16S 150 amp hour BMS’s on each two modules! All batteries were top balanced individually to 3.45 volt down to 2 amps with my Ztech 40 amp chargers. Yes, I did use your discount code, thanks!!
Wow! You got great results from your test.
really great, informative content. thank you.
I think that's a pretty good price, plus I like the fact that the batteries have fairly robust protection
well done! thanks for sharing this
Good video!
Thanks
Not bad of a price for 14kWh!! I like the way that plastic tray holds the wires nice and neat!👍
Yeah, that was a nice little bonus.
Clean simple and at a reasonable price 👌
Looks like the setup is pretty easy.
Nice. Proper capacity test makes me hit the like button.
like it
Thanks man, 514!!
Very good capacity for used cells. Nice build
Agree
Nice wiring on the cells , what a nice setup .🇬🇧👍
Thanks for the great videos David! I picked one of these up a couple of weeks ago
great, share us the experience once installation finished.
Thank you for another nice video brother
Hi David from Australia, we enjoy you sharing your knowledge and equipment. Bummer we cant get this in Aust. I'd purchase straight away. Thx anyway will continue watching you vids
Wow what a great system. This is the cheapest system that I feel confident won't blow up my house. Thanks for sharing.
This is a much better option for DIY 18650
Wow! That is amazing, Thanks Dave 👍
Great video
The problem is that the NEC 2020 and beyond are requiring that ESS be "Listed" or field inspected for compliance to UL standards. That is expensive, so there is no savings in building a DIY battery if you're required to comply with code.
yep, you'd have to get inspected with a minimal UL listed system then add or replace with DIY
No one DIY building batteries is doing so commercially, so pretty sure that Code compliance won't become a significant issue.
Only matters if you're installing in your house/living space. Most building DIY large ESS do so in a separate battery shed which negates the code compliance issue. Or they are off grid and not worried about inspection. My electrical inspector only cared about the AC side of the system. Didn't even look at the DC side even when asked if he needed to see anything.
Nice that's great to know. Love the video ls keep it up.
Wo great battery
excelent.
Thank you for your video I look forward to these you're so knowledgeable
very impressive
You inspired me to purchase two of Battery Hook up's Gotion 16s 51.2v 240ah 12.3kWh Lifepo4 Battery's. comes out to about 130 a kw hour when you factor in purchase of the BMS, tax, and shipping. (not counting a breaker or a disconnect.) Still waiting on them to arrive.
Guess it makes sense to rack panel makers to place the display, switch, etc, inline with where cables, solid busbar runs. Perhaps that would be a good suggestion to them. Now to check out cost to Au.
Brilliant video. What a shame there isn't something comparable in the UK.
Orient Power Powerwall battery is available in stock in UK.
I would buy a 24v diy BMS if they had it available. I bought three modules thanks for the info.
excellent video - building my own with components suits my style
DIY
Could you look into assembling a sodium ion bank? I’ve seen some of the cells out on the market
I just ordered some of the SPIM08HP cells and hardware for making a battery for my UPS (not quite set up for house inverter yet) that runs my server rack and livingroom. I used your promo code, of course 😉
So now just waiting for them to pull the order and ship so I can get that online soon
Sounds good. Thanks for using the code.
Yes video.👍⚡🔋💡
These modules look amazing and the only negative I can see is we didn’t get to see you build “stuff”, they were almost plug and play. No welding, cutting, soldering or measuring - just adding 6” of wire. That’s what I love about your channel - David Poz builds “$hit”!!! Thanks for showing these cells and I may expand my off grid system.
very easy right?
For the price whats better on the market?
I’ve been passing to everyone. With the weight of batteries 🔋 and wall mounted hardware. Getting a engine lift to help pickup and install to he wall will save your back. The Engine Lifts are mounted on wheels and has good reach with weight abilities. And you do some heavy lifting. Thanks again for your posts.
You can get a 1 ton chain hoist for less than $40 - works like a charm.
good suggestion
step one: don't be weak LOL
Subbed. Love your approachable builds and looking forward to building one when we have our own place. Question: do you think something like this would be doable in a van? 14kwh would be plenty!
Sure, this is something that can be built into a Van. I would spend a lot more time bolting things together and securing them into the frame.
love the videos, i wanted to get one of those packs just cant justify the shipping for only one battery, and cant afford more than one hahah, but i can live vicariously through you
Individual cells can be shipped in smaller boxes, saving money on shipping. That would probably be a better choice if you are making a single 24V battery.
I am trying to catch up on how to utilize the lithium batteries. I am still assembling some solar panels from individual cells I purchased year ago. They are intended to go with a small camper trailer. The way I'm approaching the shipping cost problem is getting friends interested in doing this as a joint venture.
Thank you for posting these info / how-to's! I learn alot (and still learning).
I have a wood shop that I would love to make 'off grid' that could take advantage of the sun and wind in my location.
Out of curiosity, have you written a 'how to' in building, installing an 'off grid' system that incorporates solar panels and battery systems? Or is there a book you'd recommend, if not a series of books?
I have not written a book. I've read dozens of books on the subject, but I don't recommend any of them. My favorite series to recommend is a 6-part video series from Alt-E: www.altestore.com/diy-solar-resources/off-grid-solar-system-design-video-series/
If the battery cell capacity is around 280AH, it means it can provide higher current output capacity. Using a 100A BMS may result in a lower current, 200A BMS would be faster.
I always wanted to see what the mounting hardware looked like to put these types of cells in a car.
I’m in PA.. wonder if I could pick these up at the warehouse!
But, How many years will they last. My electric bill is around 300/month x 12 thats 3600 a yearish its less in the Winter because I live in FL. spending 12k plus idk how much in panels to charge these guys, everything would have to last 5-7 years just to recoup my costs. Do you think these batteries being used daily to power a home could or would last that long?
Thanks for the test and giving me more options for DIY builds! My motorhome is already set up as 24vdc with two 3kw Growatts. Could I use the Jakiper bms and just change its parameters to 24vdv pack settings?
No. The BMS is 48V only. Battery Hookup sells 24V BMSs. Select "8s LiFePO4" from the dropdown list: batteryhookup.com/products/12v-lifepo4-smart-bms-w-low-temp-cutoff?_pos=6&_sid=be404606b&_ss=r&variant=37389087506594
Although, just now when I snagged the URL for you I see they are sold out. They usually restock quickly, but you could call and ask when they might have more.
I just purchased 8 of these modules and 4 jbd 300amp smart bms from them and since im 30 min outside philly I drove my 3500 and just picked them up. Amazing savings for 1120ah 😮
Good deal. An hour trip is worth the savings in shipping for sure.
I have emailed them about that BMS to see what Inverters it support but didn't get a reply.
What inverter are you goint to use with that bms?
Thanks
if the storage capacity of these batteries is worn down to 90%, roughly how many cycles are left; 50% ?
Hi. Thanks for your service and all information sharing with us. This BMS can configure in close loop with Schnaider? Thanks
I think so, but I haven't tested it. I have a video setting up closed loop with a similar BMS to the Schneider Insight home. The process might be the same, but you would have to confirm with Orient Power. Like I said, I haven't tested this "DIY BMS" with Schneider. czcams.com/video/qs2gE2wR3ZA/video.htmlsi=9TyCDVHETOtc_8Ac
Where did you purchase thr xatl battery
First off, you are strong as can an ox! I thought I was going to just pick these batteries up like you were holding it at the beginning of the video.... My back is very upset right now lol. They didn't have any of these packs as you bought them, the only option was the auction pallets. I bought some and one module had a bad cell. I figured it was no big deal, I'll find a way to take off the welded terminal and put a new one in. That was short-lived. I was able to cut and pop off the terminal so I started to unscrew the bolts but found there were rivets on the bottom so I drilled them out. I then found that the top and bottoms are also welded. It's impossible to get these out lol. I am thinking of just setting a cell on the side and connecting it 😂 I have 8 of these modules so I have some work to do! Some of them just have the welded terminals broken so I will have to drill in the cell and put a helicoil but we will see how that goes.
If these are going in a stationary application (like I'm using), then I suspect one cell on the side isn't going to make or break your build. Keep to what's easy for you. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Here’s an update. I opened the module finally and I went to helicoil one of the cells. I researched that they are 6-7mm depth. I went to 5mm and went thru. I went to do another and couldn’t get enough threads even after cutting off the taper. Tried another one a little deeper and went through. I think I’m just going to replace with studded cells.
is there any harm in using existing balance wires and tying them to the BMS harness? I ended up drilling through 3 cells and stripped 2 because it was too shallow to grab. I accidently popped 2 welded terminals off while trying to open the case so I will have to replace those too.
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I re-use existing BMS wires all the time for my new BMS. I'll point out something that is probably obvious, but here goes: BMS wires are thin, and can't carry the full current of the cell. Don't try to use the BMS wires as power wires.
@@DavidPozEnergy Ive got them wired up to a sweet busbar. Last question (i think) is there any way to reweld broken welds or any links you know of to do this? Trying to drill the holes has not worked and ive tko'd a few I believe that welded cells have a shallow avalible depth compared to naturally studded cells.
David, what's the size of the bolts in positive and negative ends? I do have these but there's no bolts included and one positive bus bar end been cut.
Than you David. Good video. Question: Does the Jakiper BMS setup work with Schneider xw pro. Is SoC available? Also, what base are you using to place the batteries?
good question, david has schneider XW PRO
Where did you get the batteries
Hello, Do you have a video on top balancing procedure (or can you recommend a video)? I am trying to learn about top balancing. Did you have to take the 8S and re-wire them in 8P in order to top balance them? I have an EG4 battery (48V, 16S) with some of the individual cells not behaving and over charging when getting close to 100% SOC. I am trying to figure out if I need to re-wire them in 16P in order to top balance them. Thanks in advance for any reply...
I don't have a dedicated video on top balancing. In this case, the cells are welded together, so I'm not re-arranging them to be parallel. Instead, I used a combination of a hobby charger (I-charger X8) and the BMS, to balance the cells.
At one point, I made a video on Jakiper battery rack. It had 4 batteries. One was not performing as well, and found one cell was hitting high Voltage before the rest. I used a water heating element (big resistor) to discharge some energy from that one cell. Basically I was manually top-balancing. You could try the same thing.
Thanks for the video ! Do you know if we can you put multiple DIY BMS modules (16S) in serie (for a 600V inverter) ?
No, these BMSs are not rated for series connections.
Ok thank you !@@DavidPozEnergy
Nice work David! Good idea to ask Orient Power to sell the "DIY BMS"!
yeah, that is pretty cool
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@@AGhostInTheMachine thanks
Link is not working says page not found on the batteries
What server rack is this? What's the depth? I have those CATL modules too and I like that they fit in there!
It says "APC Infrastruxure" on it. I'm not a computer guy, so I really don't know how to tell one thing or another. I bought it from my local recycling center for $75. The outside dimensions are 23W, 42D, 82H
very nice!! and thank you for doing cost #2 'or 'full rack'. My first question while watching was "how many units can ship on a pallet?", which you answered. The 7 unit build is bigger than I need, but cheaper than my original plan. Very intriguing and seems more than worth it. I just need to decide on BMS size/type. Very helpful - thank you!!
Your welcome. Good luck with your build.
Where did you get the server rack to fit the CATL packs? I got 12 of these and need to find a sturdy rack.
My local recycling center. I bought it for $75. You can also search on craigslist and Facebook Marketplace. Use search "Server Rack" and "server cabinet". The CATL module was about 1/8" too wide, so I notched the back rail to slide it in.
Is there anything like Battery Hookup on the west coast? The freight from PA is insane to out here in Oregon.
how many kwh you need?
Would the BMS eventually balance all of them, that's it's just right? Is the method you used just to speed it up or something (you mention small cycling of them)? Do you have a video on the methods and differences of it? I always thought it just balances them behind the scenes but they are quite off balance still for days in your video. My only experience is 18650 DIY and they take a few minutes at most to balance.
The BMS will eventually balance the cells, but the cells have to be above a certain Voltage (I think 3.4V). When the cells are resting they will drop below 3.4V, so the BMS won't balance if they are just sitting there. I don't have a dedicated video on balancing cells, but I'll add it to my list of ideas.
@@DavidPozEnergy ah I see thanks. I always thought they were actively keeping them balanced, not letting some drop off in voltage =[ maybe more expensive ones do
Does the BMS come with active balancer? Would it make a difference?
The BMS has a balance function built in. This BMS uses resistors for balancing, which is usually referred to as "passive balancing". The BMS will eventually balance the cells on it's own, but I sped up the process with an I-charger.
After your last battery video, battery hookup ran out of stock on the 20s packs quick! And I missed out. The success of that video hurt me lol so I better jump on this deal stat!
Only jump on the deal, if this battery will work for your needs.
@@DavidPozEnergy it pretty much seems perfect for my build so I ordered 6. I used your discount- thanks
edit: boy am I glad I acted quickly: showing sold out on the website already.
David, I purchased 2 DIY BMS from Orient Power. Can you give me Software and Computer hook up direction to change 100 AH to 280 AH. Like you, I'm nervus on computer to BMS functions. Many Thanks! Really appreciate your Videos! Jay
I am doing a diy setup, my first time doing solar. I plan to go off grid and looking for a lot of battery storage. I will be running my home and pole barn/shop off the solar/battery. If I were to purchase 4-6 (8-12 packs) of these batteries will the 100 ah bms be sufficient to run everything, air conditioners, 220v shop tools etc? Or do I need the 280ah bms you were referring too? I plan to use a eg4 18k inverter/charger.
To answer that question, we need to look at your total loads. If you plan to purchase one EG4 18KPV inverter, it can output 12kW cont. while off grid. That could be up to 275A from the battery bank. If you plan to have 4 batteries in parallel, that's 69 Amps per battery. That's fine, no problem.
However, I'd be concerned if one inverter would be enough. Reading your question, and seeing two buildings, one being a shop, there is a lot of potential. I suggest making yourself a loads list. Write down a realistic worst-case situation. For example, a table saw with dust extractor, lights, air filter, air conditioner etc. all on at the same time. If you do that for both house and shop you might find that 12kW isn't enough.
If you decided you wanted 2 inverters (or at least the potential) then you are talking 550A from the battery bank. At that point you would need 6 batteries with 100A BMSs on each to make it, and it would be cutting it close. Or go with some larger Amp BMS's.
The answer always comes back to your loads.
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@@DavidPozEnergyThanks for the reply, I appreciate it. My worse case total load would be 10-12k watts and I think that would be super rare between the house and pole barn, that is with all 4 1 ton mini splits running (~700 watts each maybe?), 220v table saw, 220v dust collection and several thousand additional watts for misc., I think the typical usage would be 4-6k watt load. I am open to suggestions for other inverters I just wanted something somewhat simple that can connect to solar panels, batteries, grid power and backup generator and switch between them automatically. If need be I can always add another inverter for the barn too of course down the road. I used your discount code for the 4 modules, I am pretty sure I used the link from your video too, you able to see if you got credit, I just purchased the batteries a few hours ago., Thank again!
Hi David. Do you have a link for that orange flexible busbar you used for connecting between the two 8s packs? Thanks!
No, sorry. It was something I had from another battery I took apart. If I didn't have that I'd probably use a 1/0 wire with a ring terminal crimped on both ends.
Many thanks!
Hi David. Just got both of my battery modules yesterday. Noticed 3 of 4 main battery posts cut off. Any idea why they’re missing? Or next best lug attachments? Thanks
What!? That's crazy. I don't know why they would be cut off. I'm guessing it wasn't Battery hookup, probably the company that removed them from their previous application. You can reach out to Battery Hookup and see if they will do anything.
As for your question. Sometimes, I've had cut tabs on batteries. I bend the tab up (even if It's just 3/4") then I drill a hole in it. Using a nut and bolt to attach the ring terminal of my wire.
Thanks for your answer. I reached out to them and they said they’ve separated those modules out now. I thought of trying the prying up method but don’t want to break the busbar completely. They offered a return and I’m going to try to take them up on it.
I'm glad to hear they are taking care of you.
Thats a really good price from battery hookup but i simply dont need that much capacity. Great video though
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How did you wire the batteries up for 48v? I don't see anything attaching the two batteries together.
I used an orange copper busbar. It's semi-flexible and left over from a battery I took apart previously. I save spare parts for this reason. I show it in the chapter installing the BMS.
@@DavidPozEnergy Oh, I see it now. Somehow I missed it :)
I see jakiper also sells a 230 ah server rack battery. Have u asked if they will sell the front panel of that model? Better breaker and I like the terminal set-up a lot more. For safety I assume u will parallel these once hooked up to your system. Whats the Max wire lug u can get on terminals?
I don't know if they plan to bring more BMS options to the market.
I was able to fit a 1/0 ring terminal, but it was very snug.
Hi William, you can also choose to purchase our 230Ah battery directly.
Thank you! Great video! What's the range of age of the batteries?
Good questions
It seems that Battery Hook up doesn't have these packs in stock...
how do you top balance with cells in parallel when they seem to be fixed in series?
I left them in series. At first, I used my I-charger to do the bulk of the balancing. I hook leads from each cell to the i-charger and let it balance the cells. But, then for more fine-tuning, I do some cycles and let the BMS finish balancing them.
Dang, wish I had the dough to make my own battery!
Maybe use a NEEY active balancer
I may have missed this in your previous videos, but have you done an estimate on how much battery you need to be totally off grid? I realize there are many ways to skin that cat, how much power you generate in winter, etc, but a case study does wonders for understanding.
Thanks for the video idea. I'll add it to my list of future videos.
Now I'm looking at getting a small size rolling server rack for power just for radios along with a single layer (two modules) of power.
Is there a way to hook this up for 12v?
If you want to build a 12V battery, then I'd check out some other options from Battery Hookup. Here is an option with these large cells: batteryhookup.com/products/4-new-eve-3-2v-280ah-lk280k-lifepo4-prismatic
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What would we need if we live in a country with 240v?
What size battery cable can you connect to the Jakiper BMS? Looked on the web site link but don't see it mentioned.
I was able to squeeze a 1/0 ring terminal in there, but just barely.
@@DavidPozEnergy Thanks
Can the BMS measure the temperature of the batteries?
Yes. The BMS comes with 4 temperature sensors on wires. I taped these sensors onto the battery in different locations.
Is there a way to do top balancing and capacity test if I don't have all those tools?
The BMS will eventually top-balance the cells on it's own. I used the I-charger to speed up the process.
Another alternative I've done sometimes. Get a water heating element, connect two wires, and drop it in a bucket of water. When you are charging the whole battery, and notice one cell is higher than the rest, put the two leads on just that cell and it will burn off some of the power.
Another alternative is to get a cheap hobby charger, like this $40 option: amzn.to/3Zhlbkx which comes with a accessories. Charge each cell one at a time up to 3.65V.
How do you top balance the cells when they are all in series?
The BMS will do it eventually, but to speed up the process I use a hobby charger. The hobby charger I use is the I-charger X8 (link in description). I can charge and balance each 8s pack individually.
Hi thanks. So it has leads for each individual cell in the 8s pack?
@@jl9678 Yes. It has balance leads to each cell. When the cell voltage gets to a certain voltage, the I8 will passively burn power. I think it's like 1-2A, which is pretty decent for small charger like that.
Many thanks!
Signature Solar is selling EG4 server batteries brand new for $195 per KWh currently with no DIY/wiring/BMS currently. I want to go that way but the diy is so attractive tbh, think i may go this way instead
There are pros and cons to both ways. I bought a rack of EG4 batteries about 2 years ago and it's still working well. Here is my affiliate link to Signature Solar if you decide to go that way, you would be helping the channel: signaturesolar.com/?ref=4_rHcgZ9x-TiF-
I am curious, if having that one BMS wire that was 6 inches longer to reach one cell will affect it in any way?
Yes and no. Technically speaking, if we are using NASA grade lab equipment, then the answer is "yes". But, in the day-to-day cycling of the battery, "no". When I tear down pre-built batteries, they have different length wires. As you could probably tell, I left the wires the same length where I could.
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Thanks for the answer, as I figured a BMS would be critical. 🖖
A minuscule amount of current passes through those "sense" wires, so extending their length (reasonably) should make an un-measurable difference.
How bad is the voltage drop? I know its energy storage but kinda curious about the degradation. The fact that you got 278Ah makes me think these probably have 1000 cycles ish
I don't know, but I should run some Voltage drop tests.
Hi! How is the plywood mounted to the server rack? Thanks
I used 2" angle iron as shelf brackets.
Thanks!
Can someone with very limited knowledge in electrical diy manage to balance all the batteries?
The checking part with all the computers hooking up scares me a bit.
How many solar panels do you need for the 11K batteries set-up you show in the video?
How many fridge, TV's, computers, lights, microwave, vacuum, etc can you hook up to a 11K batteries set-up? How many could run at the same time?
I'm sorry for the really basic questions but I'm trying to figure out how feasible going off grid is for men
This is all very intriguing, however where do you start if you don't have an electrical engineering degree? I love the DIY aspect, but it feels like this is over my head.
Begin with what your goal is. My goal is to power my house and garage, year-round, off grid. However, you might have a smaller goal in mind. My very first solar project was to have one LED light bulb on, and charge my cell phone.
There is a great video series that I recommend. It's 6 parts and worth the time to go through them all: www.altestore.com/diy-solar-resources/off-grid-solar-system-design-video-series/
Do you have a link or contact for the jakiper DIY bms and faceplate?
Yes. I linked to it in the description along with the coupon code. The company is Orient Power.
Morning David, Nice day here 27 degree here in Southern Australia. I did look at the front panels. Where is your door on your server rack. lol. I got secondhand aluminium plate from a crap yard. 30 dollars au that way.
Hi. I have a door for the server cabinet. Once I finish wiring the batteries together I'll put it on. I bought the server cabinet at my local recycling center for $75.
@DavidPozEnergy They have got up since I got mine at 30 dollars au, David. lol, but they are very handy.
You need to put a good active balancer on those packs, (NEEY) especially with the studs on those cells, it would be simple to install, or the JK BMS with 2 amp active balancer..A passive balancer will never get those under control in the long run..Communication really isn't important, a smart shunt and the bluetooth app with the JK BMS is really more than enough..I don't even have a shunt for my different two 16s 48 volt packs..It's fine...I'm still building CATL packs I got from Battery Hookup, and I have 16 280 Ah Eve cells, but I'm getting there..Everyday somethings showing up, only need a few more pieces of the puzzle..
I tested an active balancer a few years back and it made my pack worse. I removed it. There are more than one way to build a battery pack.
@@DavidPozEnergy Ya, you can't leave them on all the time..Only when the pack finishes charging and is settling into it's regular resting voltage..And then they work like a charm...I charge to 3.45 a cell which is 55.2 volts, and that is when the balancer kicks in, it stays on for an hour until the voltage is resting at 3.35 a cell or 53.6 and the difference between the cells is 3 to 5 millivolts...My buddy hooked me up with that system, and he said he learned it from someone who tests packs on the internet..Works very good..Even on used cells..But, if you leave the balancer on all the time, it makes the situation worse, and I can confirm that, because I tried it on two different packs..
Your discount codes aren't working for Orient Power. The 8% isn't too surprising since it was limited time, but the 5% isn't working either
So glad I found this video, I had no idea this diy bms was available. That will actually let me make a professional looking battery that is nicely enclosed
I asked them about it. If an item is already on sale (example: early black Friday) then you can't double up the discount. Sorry about that.
Please still use the affiliate link, as it's how I can continue to make these videos.
You may be costing me some money with this video.
I thought we were friends!! :D
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behind you under the computer is a battery, the cells are separated by spacers with ventilation area. what are those and how do i find them?
They came with the battery I bought at Battery Hookup.
Geat video. What charge inverter would you put on these to power whole house with the 100kw?
I'm currently using a Schneider XW PRO 6848 inverter. And, I bought a second one to parallel for even more power. I have videos on the inverter. My favorite video is testing the overloading capacity, because It's the best I've ever tested: czcams.com/video/nCV1OUrcAaw/video.htmlsi=rsaoG1UQ0sYt0pA0
@DavidPozEnergy I have an existing 14.5kw micro inverter PV system and trying to add whole house backup/off-grid battery system. I need 70-75 kw batteries to do this for the worst case days
You may want to research a term called "AC coupling". Some inverters will allow AC coupling, and some don't. If you have this feature, then you can still use your existing solar system (with micro inverters) while the grid is down. I've tested the AC coupling feature on my Schneider and it works well. If you don't want to go Schneider, look at SMA Sunny Islands, they also do it.
@DavidPozEnergy Sol-Ark 15kW All-In-One Hybrid Inverter, can it just $7k. And well it is a lot to spend on just the inverter with no one I trust is speaking about it.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the Sol-Ark line of inverters. If you want those types of features, then check out this one: signaturesolar.com/eg4-18kpv-hybrid-inverter-all-in-one-solar-inverter-eg4-18kpv-12lv/?ref=4_rHcgZ9x-TiF-
note, this is an affiliate link.
Hello Dave, Have you gotten your hands on the Battery hook up 51.8v 252ah 13.05kWh 14s ESS Battery Module with BMS battery for sale. Looks tempting, would love to know if we can actually use the bms and RS485, Can, and RS232 it comes with our inverters. Maybe this can be your next video. If anyone can figure it out it would be you.😂
Hi fredlo6935, I have not tested that battery. Looks very nice.
Can you just put 2 in parallel to keep it 24v
Yes. I suggest you use one 24V BMS per 8s module. After the BMS, you can parallel as many as you want.