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- I used to think Souls games had no real villains, I couldn't have been more wrong. Here are the most sinister characters to ever exist in FromSoftware games.
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There are more villains I didn't include in the video. What are your picks for the most evil characters in Souls games?
I’ve always been the villain
Lautrec destroys your bonfire in Firelink, truly the most evil act in dark souls.
Shabriris pretty awful. You should make a part 2, this video was very good!
I thought I knew Dark Souls lore but I didn't realize what a piece of shit Gwynn was. Goob Job. looking forward to your next videos.
Gravity.
While not really a character per se, nonetheless 'tis a persistent nemesis, indeed...
“Mohg knew he wasn’t a match for most of the demigods.” Didn’t fucking feel like it.
Eh, “mogh knew he wasn’t enough on his own” is true tho
Turned to the flaming mom fore it
I mean now with divine aid maybe, but without it he is weaker than his brother
@@amadhollow635
If Mohg chose to learn any other magic, he still would have been strong. The way I understand the descriptions of blood incantations, Mohg created them and one must be skillful to do that.
He is using the formless Mother's blood as base, but that's how magic works in elden ring.
Glintstone sorcerers also use the power of glintstone and don't create it out of nothing.
Holy magic is also created from the golden order, right? Radagon and Morgott don't create their own holy energy, but channel a power that is already there.
I see it similar to a water bender from Avatar. They need water as a base to even fight, but still need their own skill to properly use, what is already there.
To be fair, Melania and Miquella are clearly stronger, with Melania being much stronger in game. Radahn is heavily degraded when we meet him. Morgott is similar in power, but doesn’t have an entire outer god carrying him through the fight. Mohg in phase 1 is easier than most demigods, it’s only after blood mommy comes in that he’s a problem
@Nameandaddresswithheld I think Mohg is the demigod closest to Malenia. When CZcamsrs have pitted them against each other he's one of the only bosses in the game who can really contend with her. His bleed spells seem uniquely suited to beat her.
I would like to mention Aldrich is just as bad as Sulyvahn. Aldrich is the only character in the entire Souls franchise to commit infanticide, he takes a sadistic enjoyment in eating people alive, invaded Anor Londo and devoured Gywndolin for his powers, and intended to bring about the Age of Deep, which was much worse than the Age of Dark because all will suffer in it.
I didn’t know it could get any worse with that sludge fuck.
The protagonist of bloodborne commits infanticide, right after its birth too
He actually does it TWICE if you count Mergo
@@bombthing Bloodborne is in it's own established universe.
For these reasons I’d say Aldrich is worse
@@Blueninja825 yea but so is elden ring
The first time I fought Mohg, my mom came into my room to get something, looked at the screen, said "ew", and left
I have a similar story but with Rykard's boss transition cutscene
Funny cause that's what his own mom said when him and his brother where born
@@richardrussel4567 don't have a brother
@@mist4848 Morgott is Mohg's twin brother
OHHHHH
Whoever thought it was a good idea to have us fight Capra Demon and those dogs in such a small space is the embodiment of evil.
God.
I remember taking the cheap way out with that fight.
Took about 20-30 minutes lobbing bombs across the wall.
Felt like 2 hours.
I just ran up stairs and got lucky hiding lmao
That dumb ass tree on the right wall of the arena perfectly situated to get you caught rolling on it is as responsible for that fight being shitty imo.
@@shepardren8006I don’t even blame you man. This and bed of chaos are such bad bosses. They’re not even hard they’re just so poorly made 😂
Run up stairs. Deal damage. Drop off stairs. Repeat
one correction, gideon near the end has a realization that even he couldn't possibly become the elden lord, and stands in your way to put you out of your misery believing you couldn't do it either
True, I don’t think he deserves to be on the list to begin with given that there’s far more evil characters then him. How is Gideon on the list when there’s selivus who basically makes puppets of woman by taking their control over their bodies and then ra p.. them. That’s far more evil than Gideon especially since his plan was to make a puppet out of a demi god who had the potential to become a god (ranni) and then do even more messed up stuff once he has the power to
As strange as it may sound, I don’t think he ever wanted to become Elden Lord. It was only a lie he told Nepheli to keep her close. Having to rule and bring stability to the Lands between would only distract him from his knowledge-searching. That’s why he starts helping us after we beat Ensha. We proved that we’re strong enough to make a legitimate claim for the Elden Ring, so why don’t just let us inherit both the title and the cumbersome responsibility that comes with it?
@@Ozzieapologist yeah I think the same, i feel like he might fear us given the fact that we killed a lot of demi gods and are dead serious on killing a god. Either that or he knows something that makes him believe that there shouldn’t be a next elden lord. His armor description says that he saw what Queen Marika planned and despaired or smth like that. Or lastly he wanted to be defeated so all his doubts are gone since you have the power to become elden lord. He was despaired to he might have sought hope from you cause you’ll become elden lord and shatter those doubts, there’s a lot of reasons to why he fought us, but there’s no way he wanted to become elden lord
@@GodfreyFirstEldenLord maybe he knows something about the dlc's story we don't know yet
@@GodfreyFirstEldenLordhe wanted to be Elden lord until he glimpsed into marikas will, and saw the end that should not be as his armour says. This is interesting because he probably didn’t see Marikas will because she wants the age to end (getting hewg to help kill a god, the tarnished, etc). He probably saw Radagons will. Radagon is marika so it makes sense he’d confuse their wills. Plus radagon doesn’t want this age to end, erecting thorns to bar entry into the erdtree.
"It turns out that the real *Souls* were the *Demon's* we made along the way..." -From Software, probably.
Manus is an interesting case because it’s some normal Pygmy pilgrim from the Ringed City. He’s less a villain and more a force of nature provoked to madness.
One thing of note, Manus is found dead in the only place in the entire franchise a lords blade is found. I think he was assassinated by Gwyn.
I don't know if the story i know about him is correct, but he wasn't even evil at all, he took care of a human civilization while they were growing up, and didn't even tried to harm someone, he was tortured to release his dark soul power and that ended the way it ended (i don't know if he was still councious in that point in time). And if it had been up to him, he would just have waited until win failed and the age of darkness came naturally so that humans could live in it. Yeah, he wasn't a hero, but i don't think he was a villain either
@@santiagoteruel4145 Dark Souls III tells us that Manus was once a human who traveled to Oolacile as a form of pilgrimage. He died there and was buried. A primordial serpent (presumably Kaathe) tricked the Oolacile residents to dig him up, revive him, and experiment on him. This experimentation reduced him to his primal desires and he wanted nothing more than an amulet which symbolized… something, for him. But the people of Oolacile took that from him too, so he went berserk and fathered the Abyss
Aldia created inumerous abominations via experiments. Giants, animals and humans. He even tried to turn humans into dragons, the undead aberration.
But aldia wasn't a villian, he was trying to find a way to stop the curse.
he turned giants into dragons***
Aldia was a guy trying to do good in bad ways
He just a good guy tried to break a curse with all method necessary.. he is science guy not philoshoper guy, his moral is low, but not evil.. i mean he created the best "Firekeeper" Waifu in dark souls series with that legs animation..
"The primordial serpent, Kate." 😅
Do people play the game without audio? Both Kathe himself and Yuria of Londor both pronounce it properly.
Judging by the guy's accent, it could simply be that it's difficult to say correctly for him. Maybe we should all laugh at you for mispronouncing croissant or fajita?
@@daruddock I don't mispronounce croissant or fajita, and I am in fact not a native speaker of English myself. Honestly though, the humor here doesn't even really come from him mispronouncing the name, but from the fact that the mispronunciation itself is still a real name.
@@blizzardgaming7070 same with how people mispronounce Ranni
@@tarvoc746lol I'm just imagining Kaathe with a blonde wig
Never ending backstab chain is such a Dark Souls classic xD
Old Monk from demons souls is basically an even worse Seath, very similar logic behind the characters except the old monk was even more unhinged and turned the place into something even worse than hell.
To be fair he was being controlled by his golden robes. Or they at least made him worse.
Yeah, as someone already pointed out, Old Monk was certainly not nice but it was mianly the robes doing it, he just sorta sat back and watched the show
Worse than how Seath raped?
Finally people realize that they shoudn't cry for hearing plin plin plon but only feel happiness
Gwyn f'd up the entire world of Dark Souls and killed himself to fuck it even more
Gwyn theme is the theme of the end
And the beginning of the Age of Dark. Long live the Fourth Lord.
For me the Pontiff takes the cake. They did not this for any reason such as fear, or because keeping the best age forever, or for nature.
No
He escaped his world (presumedly transforming his motherly figure into a monster) , saw how rotten the world was, and took benefit from that. Characters like Gwyn are know for being diferent tones of grey. Well this guy is black. Completely. And arguably the reason why he didn´t did worse is because he wasn´t powerful enough.
Black = evil?
Racism
You sure? In my opinion he just applied what he learned from the Corvians and Ariandel (Pre-Friede) and tried to apply it to the outer world. That being to destroy the stagnancy of the Age of Fire just like the rot taking over the painting. But due to himself not having a reason to be forlorn, he could also just be ambitious.
Aldrich
Kinda wanna call bull on Pontif not being strong enough. Aldrich canonically beat him, but his fights a joke compared to the dps monster that is Pontiff.
Remember
Pontiff's motivation was he was too cold
I really like Lautrec as an antagonist, a romantic villain with personal ambitions.
Lautrec was never a villain everything he does is Justified.
@@triploshadow And he cares about his brother... like, a lot
gideons fight if you dont cheese his speech is definitely one of the hardest npc fights in the game
That’s a low bar though
@es5424 they should be better level set because at low/mid levels most of the npcs are fairl tough some downright bs
for real, what was the guy talking about though even with the shitty boss fight, gideon ofnir was amazing, reminds me of odin from Ragnarok
There are pelnty of Ashes of war and spells that absolutely trounce npcs though as they cannot properly input read them, such as Miquella's Rings of Light, Phantom Slash, Frenzied Burst, Unendurable Frenzy, Inescapable Frenzy, Frenzy Flame burst, Giant Hunt, Lions Claw, Night Comet ect... All of these will absolutely destroy any npc. So yeah Gideon is hard if the player is completely clueless of what hes doing.
Death magic causes him to stun lock
I would add Aldrich, the god of rot, Eiglay, Lautrec and the iron king.
You have all my respect for remembering iron king lmao
@@grassblock7668 i mean, he is the most memorable boss look-wise and the famous random hole in his arena.. not the boss fight itself
@@CptDuck I know I know, but his lore barely gets considered because people cannot bring themselves to read item descriptions.
Even tho I really am all for calling gwyn evil, lame and even a coward, I really can't think of anyone beating shabriri.
He does not care about justice, love, hope or joy. Not even for himself. He only dreams on ending the world, he makes his goal to end all goals, all people and all life just because the world is imperfect. He is as manipulative as Kathe and Frampt, coward as Gwyn, cruel and treacherous like Seath, bitter as dung eater and more destructive than manus but willingly, enjoying himself while cursing existence itself
You're absolutely right. I wasn't satisfied with the amount of lore I found about Shabiriri, so I removed him from the script.
Shbriri himself definitely is
But most choas severnts just seem to hate life because of what it did to them as haytte puts it "torment despair affliction every sin every curse" "Burn it all away" "no more suffering no more birth"
Eh, shabriri is the coolest character in the game.
He’s literally kenjaku.
No more death, no more birth, mad about it? No more shabriri either.
@@psychonutsacidballs3238He is literally nothing like kenjaku at all. What.
@@neuropath6465yeah really the only similarity is the body hopping and even then the methods are very different
The funny part is the player characters are able to surpass most of these entries depending on how they conduct themselves during quests and endings lol
The greatest villain is actually Artorias for making us kill Good Doggy Sif
Hey don't put the blame on him, you chose to do it :(
Dude- Artorias would never want to kill his BFF.
Jhon dark souls killed his own waifu to usurp the flame . That is just beyond evil
You said that Manus was evil, and I'd like to argue the opposite. The point of Dark Souls is that Man isn't evil, they just stem from an abyss that is counter to the Gods' fire. They are part of the natural order that came with the first flame, and are the rightful lords of what is to come after the age of fire. Sure, the Gods would argue that Manus was an evil villain, but evidence actually points towards the Gods as being the true villains. They feared the dark that humans came from, and chose to shackle them as a means to control them. Hence the Darksign. Gwynn even broke the natural order by kindling himself to stave off the coming darkness. There is nothing inherently wrong with the Dark, the gods just fear it because they cannot control it, as they attain power through fire.
The most evil character is the player who doesn’t level vigor
They are not really that evil as they spend most of the time on the bonfire/grace.
I beat the whole game with the vigor of 20.
It was hard but it was done
You're just mad because they are better at the game
would like to put the entire Healing Church and School of Byrgenwerth from Bloodborne here. They both have a 'noble' goal, but the ways they go about achievieving it - mutating the normal people of Yharnam without a care - is evil
Let’s not forget the Old hunters as well, they’re actions in the fishing hamlet were beyond evil. Not to mention the twisted experiments they were performing in the research hall.
@@NartOfficial371 I'd like to just say they were just stupid, but with the description of the Beast Cutter they prolly were just evil lol
I mean… the Old Blood healed. People came from different countries because of the phenomenal healing properties. The Healing Church really was doing that, healing people.
I don’t think they could’ve anticipated the Moon’s effect on those with the Blood in them. Only dudes who met the Moon to my knowledge were Gehrman and Laurence. Laurence becomes a beast, Gerhman is enslaved by the Moon, so I don’t think there was really anyone to give a heads up warning.
Now, the Choir? The subset of the church? Those fuckers were eeeeevil. The whole Lumen Flower/orphanage/Celestial Emmisary thing is foul. If I remember right they’d take children from the orphanage, use the old blood and Celestial Emissary (who I believe was a Choir member who changed) to turn the children into mini emissaries, then they’d be planted and turned into Lumen Flowers. Lumen Flowers would attract… some otherworldly entity (like higher dimensional fireflies, phantasms I want to say?) which the Choir could then use to conduct their Arcane abilities and rituals and experiments and what not. Basically they took orphans and turned them into energy.
So I think the church as a whole was a genuine helpful thing for the most part, but the guys in the Choir were despicable.
God I want to replay now it’s been forever. Lore is sooooo damn good I love how literally everything is explained.
Considering the amount of villains I think we need a part two.
Oh and I'd definitely put the moon presence in there. Trapping your pawns in a never ending "dream" (nightmare) until they cull your rivals sounds villainous to me.
I think there were a couple inaccuracies in this video but your ranking is still solid and makes sense. You got some small details wrong but i cant blame ya.
I’ll be honest, I don’t think Gwyn is that evil of a character. Going through to timeline of events, he created the darksign, which is probably the most evil thing he did, but even then that allowed humans to live free lives, trusting fully in the illusion of life instead of living as hollows.
He gave the pygmies the ringed city to seal away the dark. While this may be bad, it is also one of the most impressive and stunning places in the franchise, rivaling his own city of Anor Londo in beauty and greatly surpassing it in size.
He feared the dark and did everything he could to stop it, but can you blame him when you know that the only two places he saw the dark were New Londo and Oolacile? I think most people would prefer pretty much anything to that, even more so when you realize an age of dark would likely mean the death and destruction of him, his family, his people, and everything he worked and fought to build.
Even then, when the time came to link the fire, there were plenty of powerful souls to choose from that he could have commanded to do the work for him, but he chose to go himself, sacrificing his own life first to save the world he loved.
When you look at how just about every other character deals with their enemies (player characters included), the fact that Gwyn managed to give humanity a place in the world which, from the descriptions of nations like Catarina and Astora seems not bad at all, is pretty impressive.
The original Age of Fire (before the darksign and undead started showing up) seems like it was good for everyone, and I can see why he would want it to keep going when Oolacile seemed to be the way the world was headed.
Gwyn's greatest sin, ironically, was his hubris. Just like the Witches of Izalith, Gwyn knew (or learnt) that eventually the flames would fade and the Age of Gods would end to give way for the Age of Man. Gwyn feared the Dark, and he also felt that he knew what was best, so he did all sorts of things to artificially delay the inevitable.
On that note, while it's true that some humans could climb the ranks in Gwyn's army; Bishop Havel the Rock comes to mind as an example, generally speaking humans were technically considered second class citizens. Humans had to live outside of Anor Lond, Golden City of the Gods, and only those who could prove worthiness and loyalty were permitted entry. The Giants, too, were treated as underclass as laborers and servants, albeit still held in higher esteem than humanity. Humans were valued, but they were also seen as rather expendable, as evidenced by the intentional flooding of New Londo Ruins, or by the Dark Sign to make into suitable kindling for the First Flame.
Gwyn's attempt at imposing his ideal order managed to alienate all three of his children, the next generation and his would-be successors. His firstborn was disowned and struck from the annals of history, despite generally being considered a fair and virtuous young God of War (also being direcrly correlated with the subro Warriors of Sunlight covenant), simply for living partially at odds with his father's world view. Gwynevere effectively abandons Anor Londo to its fate, having supposedly married a flame god from a distant land and presumably moving on. Gwyndolin still holds true and loyal to his father's view, but he was also raised at odds with his own existence (which can be considered questionable). Also, artificially extending the Age of Fire seems to have done the world a lot of harm, as evidenced by the twisted and burnt-out state of the world the player character explores (which only proceeds to get even worse as time progresses into DS3).
Ultimately, Gwyn's story is a pretty tragic one. He was a being who was gifted enormous power, and enormous responsibility to match it. He worked hard and did a pretty decent job of making things turn out okay. People treat him as a God, maybe he even believes it himself, he's certainly the most powerful and capable being around. But he has flaws, and is nowhere near as perfect as everyone believes him to be. Nowhere near as powerful as he needs to be. Refusing to adress certain issues, he pushes away those closest to him before finally making the ultimate sacrifice to (pointlessly) extend an age that nobody is really around to benefit from anymore (but obviously that's open to interpretation). He's long gone and the story is set in motion.
THANK YOU! Ngl i was a little surprised to see Gwyn as the final EVIL character of the video. For the final evil boi absolute monstruosities like Aldritch comes to mind, not Gwyn.
The Age of the Ancients and the Everlasting Dragons was a bleak, immemorial, gray world filled with immortal creatures where no progress was bound to happen. With flames came disparity yatta yatta and the Lords coalition led by Gwyn was effectively the first big event to what would eventually be an age full of bustling cities like Astora (know for having a highly advanced culture and society) and Catarina (a place know for festivities and drinks), locations that paints a picture of humans living an okay life in some parts of the land.
Ofcourse there was a lot of bad things too that came with the Age of Gods, that we all know. But between the forever stillness of a bleak gray world and the Age of Gods? The Age of Gods will always sounds like a better choice in my book.
Yappin
@@risottonero6995 Boy, sit your ass down: He abandoned his kids, He let his daughter be raped by a complete lunatic of a scientist, and he created a TERRIBLE world doomed to crumble because he was completely inept and egotistical.
He wanted his legacy to be immortal, so he doomed the inhabitants to either fulfil his wishes or go insane
My understanding is that the way that darkness manifested in Oolacile is because of Gwyn's attempts to stifle its growth. Darkness became corrupted due to Gwyn's meddling in the natural order of things
I was definitely surprised to not see Shabriri on this list.
Awesome video btw i really enjoyed it^^
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I wanted to add Shabiriri, but I couldn't find enough lore to talk about him for longer than a minute. Maybe if we get more descriptions about Outer Gods in the expansion, I may make a video about Shairiri, Three Fingers, and the Outer God of Chaos.
Shabriri not being on this list is kinda disappointing. Bro lied and condemned an entire group of people and invited a disastrous outer god to the lands between. Becoming the herald of the chaos flame and putting the tarnished on the path to become the lord of frenzy. All to just destroy the world. Bro is as evil as evil gets
So, who is the meanest bastard of Souls?
Patches. A guy so evil he would betray his mother for a Shining Coin.
In Mohg's Defence, Miquella probs bewitched him. I heard Vatti say that all of this could be going exactly according to Miquellas Plan
One thing regarding Manus that isn't mentioned here: it wasn't just the loss of his pendant that drove him crazy, it was the torture. The bonfire to get to him sits in a cell with chains and a broken wall, which he presumably broke himself before trying to return to his grave site where we find and fight him, probably in utter confusion (and agony, being exploded from the inside by the Abyss was definetely not a nice experience).
That cell is also surrounded by other cells, and right outside that corridor there is a Chained Prisoner, clearly another human who underwent torture. Another source for this is Gough's dialogue, he says something in the lines of: " (the Oolacile sourcerers) wanted to discover the secrets of Primeval man". Also, Kaathe (Kate) wasn't the only one responsable for it, Allfather Lloyd, or Gwyndolin, or both, also had a part in it. The bonfire in Manus' cell can't have gotten there on it's own, and the Way of White (commanded by Lloyd) is the group which was tasked by Gwyn to place bonfires all around Lordran.
Another thing of note, near Manus who died in Oolacile, is the only lords blade encountered in the entire series. I think Gwyn assassinated Manus.
@@blizzardgaming7070 He probably sent Ciaran or any Lord's Blade to kill him, yeah
@@blizzardgaming7070& @grassblock7668 But in the end is the player that kills Manus. Ciaran could have been there following Artorias out of love/respect for as much as we know...
@@alessandrobaggi6129 Manus died before we fight him, Oolacile disturbed his grave after all. I think he was assassinated and the betrayal combined with complete darkness allowed him to corrupt into the abyss.
@@alessandrobaggi6129 i only know the lofre from videos and that stuff, but didn't ciaran went searching after artorias?, thats the reason why she even gives you her blades once she bury him
No Patches?! Not even honorable mention? Granted, he’s not powerful as most of the other mentions, but his villainy transcends a single title
Not only is he not here, but I will also double down and put him in the heroes video.
@@Brollo_ Oh my
Patches is the ultimate badass, more petty (and a lot human) than truly evil...
I generally loathe him too, but he has fair points to his worldvision.
@@alessandrobaggi6129He freakin’ threw me of a ledge to steal my goodies!
@@pedrogabrielwriternot only that he kicked you in a ditch to fight Midir lmao
I honestly wouldn't say that Gwyn was the most evil. He did sacrifice himself trying to save his world, rather than keep eating the humans, even though he failed and the rest of the lords kept using the humans as fodder.
Gwyn sacrificed himself because he doesn’t want his age to end. Instead of letting the natural change to the age of man he trapped all of humanity’s darkness and literally trapped the world into an endless cycle. Gwyn fucked the world up because of his hubris and nobody can undo it, he deserve the no1 spot honestly
@@daddyvegan9325 come one Seath was far worse. Gwyn was like Hitler, he cared about Germany. Seath was like Joseph Mengele. He only cared about his experiments which were brought upon innocent.
@@daddyvegan9325 Tbf he didn't really know that would happen. Idk Gwyn always felt like a pretty gray character to me even through the lore, I was surprised to see him on the list in all honesty.
@@paschen1791it sort of did, he feared the dark soul and the pygym lords, so he cursed humanity with the dark sign to insure he couldn’t be overrun. He basically did everything he could to insure his age would be permanent, and any would do anything no matter the morals to stop them.
@@Danthelegionmaster I mean yeah, but then again he created a prosperous age, it's not so surprising that he'd want to keep it, though the evil part being that he did anything to do so. I don't think he's evil by intention.
Manus WAS NOT THE FORGOTTEN PIGMIE , we know that because, in the ringed city exist a mausolium for him , like the one for gwin.
Where it is written that Pontiff was defeated by Aldrich? Even the pontiffs soul description suggests that they were more of a alies or that the pontiff was using Aldrich
Where was it ever stated that Aldritch overtook Irythl and conquered Sulyvanhn?? Every lorepiece I could find painted Sulyvahn as the mastermind controlling Aldritch, not the other way around.
Yeah I thought he fed Gwyndolin to Aldritch. Might be wrong, but while they were teammates Sulyvahn was the mastermind and Aldritch was more the… ‘muscle?’ Like he was just there to eat, not make decisions.
@@wr5488 Like 80 percent of everything wrong in Dark Souls 3 was Sulyvahn's fault. That dude was the final boss in all but name.
All Manus daughters are evil except the one that got married with Gigachad Ivory King. She is a wife material, and a keeper. Her ability probably the strongest one since she can froze the entire city to the point you have to beg her to make her melt the ice.
Elana wasn’t evil! She had her husband murdered and her kingdom destroyed in front of her. She’s guarding Sinh, she’s the last line of defense against the Drakeblood invaders who murdered her people. Pretty sure she thinks we are a Drakeblood too the way she greets us ‘you are not deserving of the mire’. Of course she’s wrath, she lost everything. And even after losing everything she’s still denying the invaders their prize. LOVE her.
I don’t think Nadalia was evil either. Don’t remember her story as well but iirc she basically was given to Iron King as a bride but was cast aside and abandoned. She’s solitude. All the shadows and soldiers in the tower are her trying to not be alone. She protecting the one person who cared about her and gave himself to her, Raime, just as Raime protects her ‘body’.
I think the stories of those three sisters are beautiful. They’re all really sad but they all found their place before something (Drakebloods, us, Chaos) rips it away from them, leaving them broken.
Then there’s fucking Nashandra. Who got literally the biggest toughest dude in the series as her husband, who was fully devoted to her… and still she couldn’t help but crave power. She caused her own demise. Other three sisters? Tragic. Nashandra? Deserved.
I like to say a couple things on Sulyvahn: by your words "Aldrich had no intention to becoming allies with Sulyvahn" but I am pretty sure they were allies before Aldrich linked the First Flame. Sulyvahn put a magic barrier on Ithryll's gate, and gifted Aldrich a Peculiar Doll which's a key to pass this barrier. Although, when Aldrich walked to Anor Londo to consume the fallen god with his deacons, he had left the the Doll by his tomb. He forcefully broke through the Sulyvahn's barrier, but of course Sulyvahn didn't want Aldrich and his deacons force through his city, which leading them to get into battle. Also that's why Ithryll isn't overran by Aldrich and his forces, because he never aimed to take over Ithryll, he was just to make it to Anor Londo.
Also he sends out Outrider Knights to die all around the Lothric.
My mate has a theory about Miquella. As Miyazaki is a huge fan of Berserk and uses a lot of references from it, Miquella can be a reference to Griffith from Berserk in that both characters are kidnapped and treated the same way by the Villain, so his theory is that Miquella will become twisted and corrupted and be a Villain for the DLC
With Gwyn, The final boss of Dark souls, on this list. It only feels fitting to add Queen Marika to it as well. From the Crusades in the Mountain tops of the giants, The Entombing of the Nomads, The mental torment inflicted on Queen Renala and the persecution of Omens all happening under her rule, She is by far the worse person to exist in Elden ring.
heres some things you might have missed based on whereever you got your sources for this. 1 Priscilla might be Havels daughter cause the maiden in the archives was probably with child when seath took her, thinking she was still pure. Priscilla was the result and the power of life hunt might have come to be due to havel and his lover be part of the plot against the gods. 2- in ds2 the last giant IS the giant lord... which in true souls fashion with pathetic bosses that we face often well past their prime, thats why the last giant is such a let down of a boss. I mean how well would you fit after being pierced with stone and in prison for who knows how long, and like in ds1 with sif, he remembers that you fought him in the past later in the game. Lastly patches serves to punish the greedy and if you look at his dialoge in ds3 you have some idea of this as well as in ds1. He sees the clerics greed and the averice of others and he uses that to lure in those who use others for their own gain.
Strongly agree with Manus. It would be like calling a hurricane evil because some people died
Selvius not being on this list is a travesty. While he isn’t grand scale EVIL like the others, he is nasty, cruel and vile in an entirely human way that very few can match.
Now with the coming of shadow of the erdtree, and how sinister the whole "war so brutal it had to be hidden". I bet Marika and Mesmer can very well take the number one spot.
The most evil character in souls: the player controlled naked deprived killing every living creature
I think Sen is underrated as an evil character. I don't know anything about Sen, except for his fortress being one of the most frustrating parts of any of these games.
Just going to point out one inacuracy. There is not a single hint to suggest that Aldritch marched at Irythill with an army. Literally nothing. The only thing we know is that he returned to Irythill after he was resurected. What is vastly more likely is that Aldritch made a pact with Sullyvahn. He would get rid of Gwyndolin and privide his wisdom and strengh to Sullyvahn, in exchange of being excepted to his home, and to have Gwyndollin provided to him for consumption in order to gain more strengh. Sullyvahn and Aldritch are not enemies, they are partners.
I've been playing these games for years, but I somehow did not know about Manus' insane power. I'm honestly shocked right now
Good video, do you plan to make a part 2.
“let’s figure out why this loser is evil”
-me searching youtube for Vaati lore after getting owned for 45 minutes straight
Decent list but some things to keep in mind:
If a something in the lore is just a speculation or a theory don't state it as a fact as it is misleading.
Also, sometimes it gets confusing whether you're ranking the bosses on how evil they are according to lore or how difficult their boss battles are or if they are strong within the lore etc. Try to keep it more consistent the Gideon entry especially was all over the place.
Yup there are a lot of things in the lore that you exposes that are old and very vage . For example , we know that manus is not the pigmie , it was a teory of years ago.
Shabriri, Rykard, Mohg.
The unholy trinity of Elden Ring villains.
I know it's not a souls and such but the most evil character in the from software games is the fucking snail from armored core 6
idk if bloodborne counts but micolash has massacared and killed yahargu'l as a means of a ritual. He also has kept everyone stuck on a night of the hunt, turning all people to beasts and wretches.He went insane praying to the god who won't answer : KOS or some say KOSM. He killed so many people for nothing.
Until the hunter chooses the 3rd ending
99% of named characters in these games are, to some extent, antagonistic. Very few of them are strictly evil. Take Gwyn’s lineage for example. They completely screwed over all of humanity, but it was what was best for them. To a human hollow, they’re evil. To eachother, they’re heroes
The bed of chaos for killing so FUCKING much
I feel like in order for a character to be really "evil" their intentions and motivations have to be in consideration. It's why I don't see why gwyn is on here as wile his actions could hardly be justified, he was doing what he thought was best to keep the world bright which evolved sacrificing himself to preserve it. Not something I'd think a truly evil character would do. I also think Sir Gidion is an asshole but not that evil as he does show some compassion for nepheli and even goes out his way to kill seluvis after you tell him seluvis's intentions to her. And if Gidion is evil because of the atrocities to the albinaurics, then practically anybody associated with the healing church in Bloodborne which includes Lady Maria and Ludwig should be seen just as evil even.
Speaking of sylvis, I'm surprised he wasn't even given an honorable mention as I'd consider him to be one of the most evil characters in these games, he is an arrogant asshole like Gidion but has done awful things and asks the player to help his demented game. And his intentions are awful and purely self serving, to the point where I feel shitty to give this freak the dung eater let alone nepheli. He is just an awful and power seeking individual who just wants to dominate others. A truly evil character in my opinion.
I kinda feel like Rykard deserved a place...
Would argue that Seath is one of the most evil characters. Sacrificing your entire kind because of jealousy is twisted.
Im willing to bet that Shadow of the erdtree will have the most evil char of all their titles
As someone who's played both Souls games and God of War games
The one thing I noticed about Gwyn specifically is how similar he is to Zeus
Gwyn literally killed all the Ancient Dragons because he wanted to rule over the world( like how Zeus went to war against the Titans all because of the crimes of one titan being of course Kronos his father, along with wanting to rule over humanity, which the titans did not tolerate)
Gwyn fcks over humanity and many other species in many ways such as the dark sign(like how Zeus and the gods were a*holes to many mortals or all mortals in general)
Gwyn uses lightning exactly like Zeus along with looking and designed very similar
So Gwyn is basically the Zeus of the Dark Souls universe
very good 👍👍
I think the point of Gideon is that he was built as this scheming mastermind but ends up being just as powerful as a non-optimally built tarnished.
I think he really is powerful, but not like you, there's a reason why out of all the millions of tarnished you are the only one who became a lord, so it's obvious that you find his fight easy, but don't underestimate him, I don't know if you ever watched videos like NPC's Vs bosses, he solos most of them.
The top 3 of the most powerful tarnished are:
1) the tarnished of no renown;
2) sir Gideon ofnir, the all-knowing;
3) vyke, knight of the roundtable hold.
I might be wrong but there might be a few lore mistakes in this vid
Amazing video, +1 sub
I believe Sulyvahn should be in a similar spot to Manus. He is not the same man who wished to leave the painting.
I feel like taking him out, was actually a blessing to himself, finally ridding himself of the Profaned Flame.
One of these but with the Most evil npcs would be cool
Is Manus even a villain? Dude got resurrected and presumably tortured. I see him more as a monster now than a villain. Totally agree on all your other guys.
One villain I liked was Yorgh. We never see him. But he leads his knights into an ancient kingdom, slaughters their king and tries to murder the dragon they revere. He releases Nito’s miasma within the dragon and ends up poisoning the entire kingdom. All because his ‘noble order’ just had to slay this comatose half dead dragon they heard about. Like he wipes out an entire kingdom in pursuit of fame and glory. Seeing Shulva has very South/Central American designs, it wouldn’t surprise me if Yorgh and his knights were supposed to be the Souls equivalent of conquistadors.
I’d argue gwyn is the most evil as he held back the natural cycle of the world (gods-dragons-dark) which caused the undead curse and the dark soul and the cause of most of the suffering.
Whenever I see a list I know Seluvis and gedeon both are going to be in it, at the very least Seluvis will
Great video
Would of loved if you showed the villains you were talking about for longer than 2 seconds
Im surprised the slayer of demons isnt on this list. Like i get it, the ending is player choice, but at the same time the fact one of the two endings has the slayer of demons just fucks the world on a comedic scale is insane. I think only the tarnished one can fuck over the world like the slayer of demons with the frenzied flames ending
Priscilla went into the painting willingly btw. She wasn't trapped.
What's the background music on 1st and 2nd entries (Manus and Ofnir)?
All the background music is in the description within the order they play.
@@Brollo_thank you
There's definitely an argument to be made about adding Shabriri and the outer god that is the frenzied flame to this list. The fact that this entity only cares about burning the world to the ground makes it seem quite villainous in my eyes.
I mean the golden order commuted mass murder and the frenzy flame wouldn’t be there without golden order being evil
What armor are you wearing in the Elden ring footage?!
Drake Knight
eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Drake_Knight_Armor
Expected painting guardians on the rafters upon reading the title
If this list can contain non-Fromsoft Souls-likes too, I have recently played through Lies of P and was blown away. If you haven't played the game yet - play it, it's insanely good. A most worthy spiritual successor to Soulsborne games and it has many pretty crazy twists. So before reading ahead, best to play the game.
So, spoilers for the characters: Simon Manus and Gepetto. Simon Manus is seen as the "obvious" antagonist of the game. He was a part of the Alchemists, an organization seeking advancements for humanity, but mostly seeking power. His ultimate goal was evolution of humanity and achieving immortality and godhood. He spread the Petrification Disease across the land, which hardened the skin of its victims while trapping Ergo inside (Ergo being the essence of humanity) and "leaving only the truth". He also used his Isle of Alchemists as a base to collect Ergo from around Krat, to achieve contact with God, and transcend him - which he seemingly almost achieved, before we stopped him. Aside from that, he also imprisoned Sophia, who was a lady with power to control time and puppets, and used her to the point where her soul split into pieces.
Gepetto was originally also an Alchemist, a friend of Simon. He had a son, Carlo. Carlo eventually found a friend Romeo, which he had grown to befriend very closely, while resenting father - Gepetto didn't care much for Carlo, even missing his graduation. Eventually, however, Alchemists' experiments have reached them, and they both caught Petrification Disease, and his son died. Gepetto was devastated by that and began to despise the Alchemists. He tried to revive his son by creating a puppet out of his corpse, but the energy was destructive, so he took out the heart and placed it in P, our playable character. After that, he collaborated with Venigni to spread the puppets around the world - with all puppets bound by the Grand Covenant, to ensure they help humans, stay true and never hurt them. However, Gepetto also bound them with another hidden rule, Law Zero - which ensured all puppets obey him no matter what.
Eventually, the world was "modernized" with puppets - almost every household and facility made big use of them. And at that point, he activated the Puppet Frenzy - which made puppets go mad and kill humans. Meanwhile, he also used Romeo's Ergo to make him the King of Puppets, whom he used to command puppets and kill people transformed by Petrification Disease. Chaos unfolded in the world, and after that, we got revived by Sophia. Throughout the game, it is shown that Gepetto managed to manipulate everyone. And his ultimate goal - have you gather Ergo on your way, as well as pieces, and then resurrect his son. The bad ending is crazy, where he reaches that goal. He revives Carlo, and then sends him to murder all your friends from Hotel Krat, replacing them with puppets that serve Carlo. After that, it's shown that he probably wants to make a whole utopia of puppets just for Carlo, as he goes out to "stabilize" the rest of the land (probably meaning he's going to kill and replace last survivors). The sheer evil here is insane.
Manus is not the furtive pigmy and no he turned info that monster for the tortures and esperiments conducted by the people of Oolacile, he was just a mindless raging beats Who was only driven by rage and gate.
I don't think Manus was evil. He was a victim of evil who finally broke and destroyed those who would destroy him.
Ahh yes, the evil character Kate from Dark Souls.
Am I the only one with the pet peeve of names being mispronounced when they are actually said in a game or movie?
Manus is not the furtive pigmy at all. He was an ancient sorcerer of Oolacile, they found he's grave opened it and since the dark sign was already placed on humanity he woke up , they tortured him making he's humanity lose control. That is a common misconception on the community. In dark souls 3 in the ringed city we see the masuleum of the furtive pigmy as we arrived in the horizon , we also see he's descendents on the thrones
Sulyvahn saw how evil the gods were and how much damage they’d done to the world by locking it in it endless cycles. Keep in mind that Priscilla may hVe been his mother.
We fight Sulyvahns mother I believe? She’s a witch tree I thought, near where the ice crabs are. It would explain Sulyvahn’s root ‘wings’. She has a slightly different moveset and iirc the item she drops (spell?) suggests it’s his mom.
i think the most evil is me honestly, i just killed the turtle guy in church of vows
Manus is not the furtive pigmy my guy, the only kind of direct mention of him in any of the games is in the japanese name of one of the bonefires in the ringed city that refers to a "royal masoleum" (masoleum as in tomb of a king/ruler), so the most logical thing to think is since the primordial human depicted in the statue before filianore's church receiving the ring from gwyn is most likely him (simbolizing his feudal submission to the god, again, most likely), he lived as ruler of the ringed city, to then pass the fragments of the dark souls to specifically the nobles (which is how gael is able to extract it by consuming them, as you can see just by looking at gael's soul after defeating him), and in general to humanity as a whole.
Again, this reconstruction is as vague as the direct mentions to the figure of the pygmy in the series which are almost non-existent, but it's an explanation that does have some fair grounds to stand on.
The conception of manus as the furtive pygmy by most of the community for what I know is instead mostly based on vibes and oooo abyss hooman 😮 😮😮
Damn I did not know Gwynny boy was down bad like that
Seath didn’t “created “ priscilla , he most likely had an affeir with Velka , as proof we found a lot of Velka stuff in the painted word
Yes finally my man Patches is not considered as a bad guy anymore
Can we add Patches to this list. I mean, sure, he is more a bastard then evil, but his "evil" transcends both Space and Time.
1# Patches
Smough/Aldritch there is something about torturing someone and right at the brink of their death they deside to eat them
Edit: and this is the reason of why o think they are the same character because the universe doesn’t need more than one child eaters
Underrated video
I personally think Shabriri/the frenzy flame is more evil than dung eater, the frenzy flame is like the end of everything where as the omen curse still has life, and though his actions are evil dung eater's twisted logic justifies it all by granting the whole world a "blessing". Shabriri is an evil manipulator that wants nothing but chaos and destruction. He frames the nomadic merchants, turning Leyndell against them and gets them buried alive deep under the shunning grounds driving them to insanity, he hops from one body to another manipulating promising tarnished like Vyke into succumbing to the madness of the frenzied flame, even body snatching familiar faces like Yura to try and manipulate our own tarnished by using the death of our maiden as emotional blackmail to get us to find the frenzied flame. And then the age of the frenzied flame is just the death of everything, its just destruction and pure chaos with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, at least the cursed age of dung eater's ending still has life.
good video but please could you actually SHOW the bosses? im not the biggest soulsborn fan and just by name i am completely clueless here
I appreciate the feedback, will do next time.
why does the games look extra crispy.
Where was it stablished in Souls lore that MANUS WAS INDEED 100% the furtive pigmey?
Where does the theory of Aldrich actually battling Suhlivan and not joining him come from?
Is everone forgetting about shabriri? He deserves to be on this list rather than Gideon