What’s It Like Being a Foreign English Teacher in Korea? | Street Interview
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- The views expressed in this video do not represent that of Asian Boss or the general expat community in Korea.
We invited a group of foreign English teachers in Korea to share what it's really like to have this popular job for foreigners in Korea.
0:00 - Intro
0:49 - Where are you from and how long have you been an English teacher in Korea?
1:48 - Why teach English in Korea?
3:52 - Basic requirements
6:54 - How much do foreign English teachers make?
9:09 - Biggest struggles
11:08 - Perception of foreign English teachers in Korean society
12:23 - Most rewarding parts of being a foreign English in Korea
14:43 - Plans for the future
16:44 - Advice to foreigners who consider becoming an English teacher in Korea
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I'm a foreign teacher here in Korea and I've actually met the guy in the yellow scarf. He's speaking the truth. One time I was teaching at a big-name academy (won't name them so I don't get sued) and a little boy wouldn't stop getting out of his chair and pulling on a girl's hair. After about 5 or 6 times of asking nicely, I finally yelled at him to stop. Later at the teacher's meeting, I was reprimanded for yelling and scaring another student. Yes, I was punished for protecting a student from bullying. Heaven forbid anything upsets a child ,thus upsetting the parents who bring in the money. I've had academies that treat me nicely and take my side, but it's a truth that they care more about the money than most other things (even the kids' actual education in many cases).
That's awful
Bully issues cannot be corrected in South Korea 😂
I sent my kids to one of those Hagwons when they were in preschool, and it turned out to be a terrible choice. I had just returned from the US and thought it might be beneficial for them to continue learning English. However, it was solely a Hagwon, and the parents seemed overbearing. They paid a significant amount, creating an environment where it felt like they could demand whatever they wanted from the Hagwon, making it challenging for teachers to be strict with the kids. I didn't find it to be a good environment for my children.
@itsmaji You are a Japanese troll obviously 😂
That is terrible. My nephew acted up here in the US. The teacher just told my brother and sister in law and they yelled at my nephew for his bad behavior. It is a bit better in the US, but the teachers still had to please the parents.
The medical and educational institutions are businesses that aim to make big bucks too.
9:01 shout out to the single mum - I’m a half-Korean raised by my non-Korean single mum. These women have immeasurable strength and grit and I hope she knows how amazing she is. I hope her daughter also learns how to embrace both her cultures even when she might feel out of place everywhere ❤️❤❤
Right on she’s so bright
I’m an English teacher here in Korea too and basically everything the guy in the yellow scarf said has been my experience. It’s true that teachers are pressured by management and the parents because they see the education of the children as just money. We’re told to lie on report cards and sugar coat comments in fear of a parent disagreeing even if what we are saying is true. I can say a lot on the situation, but look at the lady who killed herself because of the bullying from the parents of her students. It can get really ugly! Our jobs are not for the faint of heart.
That is insane. You would think that it would be different from how US parents are because of the perception of how important education is in Korea.
Especially for under 2k usd per month. Pure insanity really.
An 18 year old can just do instacart and doordash part time and make more than that
@@demri123Well many do it for the experience too not just the money, which is why it is important to like what you do.
I taught in Korea about ten years ago and I had the exact same experience. No kid every got below a C on a report card. The parents run the academy. It's very much a "the customer is always right" scenario.
Stick around long enough, and you'll be in a K-drama.
The parent complaint issue is huge in Korea, and has affected Korean teachers as well. There was a huge protest as teachers had killed themselves in their class rooms as parents have power over their livelihood.
That’s why I wear the black ribbon. 😢
It mostly, as in 99% only affects Korean teachers. Foreigners rarely if ever deal with the parents, their complaints or consequences.
@@seanoceallachain
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정작 과거에 학생들을 폭행했던 선생님들은 은퇴하고 애꿎은 뒷세대 선생님들이 민원이나 항의에 고통받는 건 억울한 일이죠
교권도 학생의 인권도 올바르게 균형잡힌 건강한 사회가 될 수 있기를 바랍니다
I know and it made me so sad and worried because I plan to come teach and my boyfriend plans to be a teacher in Korea too. He is Korean too and I don’t want him to go through that. I felt so bad for that teacher. But I heard they just passed a law that protects teachers. Even though it is not the best law yet but at least it is a start.
Very informative video. Guy with yellow scarf is speaking facts and people are mad about it. Stay mad. The system needs to change.
Guy with yellow scarf has a TikTok channel, and, whereas he is not necessarily lying, he absolutely over-exaggerates and over-dramatizes key facts. For example, not "everyone" who lives in school-provided housing gets lung diseases from mold. He once claimed that Seoul city had implemented "special martial law" in response to a couple of public stabbing incidents. "Special martial law" is not a real thing. Rather, there was just a heightened police presence. Over-exaggeration.
@@summe1972for the housing though he said it depends
Yes, he doesn’t tell the truth everything he just lives in a country side outside. He gives a lot of faults information. It’s hard to keep quiet when you see people like that.
Apparently, he loves to get into a countries, politics and laws, as he’s been from what I heard of band in Europe, in some places for stocking members of parliament. Weird people need to stop coming to other countries and trying to change it. Some things are ok but we all know what people are like. Who think they know everything.
@@Jaysk79 the gay mafia is always this way
Being a foreign English teacher isn't that easy to begin with. Providing accurate information is all the more challenging as time goes on. It's fascinating to know more about their insights. We look forward to see more.
so thankful to the guy with the yellow scarf for speaking about housing and living conditions. until now I thought, "wow, they even provide housing!" and I wasn't aware of all the downsides... it can really make or break the decision to take on this job!
Teaching kids for a long-term isn't sustainable. You need a break or move on to adults. This is coming from a teacher who started with kindergarten, elementary and middle school students.
After 4 years I was burned-out. That's why I moved on to adults at Pagoda. After 6 years there, I was burned-out again.
Now I'm seeking other options like having my own school or working for an Educational organization.
My two cents... just continue to evolve and grow and don't stay for too long in any position as you will get burned-out.
This message goes out for the lifers. Fighting!! Lol
I work for a call center and I had an elementary teacher of 21 years tell me not to do it a couple of days ago.. only want to teach abroad for a couple of years and once I get truly tired I'm going to be done. I think that that would be better than trying to do this for a lifetime. Just a conversation alone didn't change my mind but still
I opened my own hagwon but still teach as many classes as possible myself. I just love it. Been doing it for over a decade. No burn out for me.
Same here. I've been teaching English for 10 years and I want to have my own language schools. I can't see myself doing this profession in a long run.
@@dianaroseverano5744All professions can get you burned out. Just with anything, you need a break. My sister in law is a pharmacist and makes a lot of money but she said it is stressful and she gets burned out too.
@@seoultrip25Yup, which is why it is important to have the interest and passion in what you do.
I loved the transition from, 'I'm not gonne lie and say I do it for the kids' to the woman who was like, 'THE KIDS, the kids are the most rewarding'. This video was really interesting as a person who taught in Korea for two years. I happened to fall into the ladder camp, I loved working with kids. The kids really remember you. I have had kids reach out to me years later to say thank you and that they loved having me as a teacher. That made the job feel really fufilling. The hardest part for me was growth. There was only so much growth you can experience as a teaching in South Korea unless you become a citizen or marry a Korean person, then you could open your own business and have a lot more optionality in life. At least that was my experience.
Did a 1 year hakwon contract in 1997. Salary at that time was 1.4. There were so many horror stories at that time, with some teachers reporting that they were essentially held hostage and werent allowed to hold their own passports, etc. I mostly had a good experience and always got paid. My employer honored the contract and paid both the year-end bonus and my flight home.
Crazy.. to think that Asians like East Asia plus Singapore are oftentimes praised for their many people with academic degree and being quite popular for being maybe intelligent people or good at math and education which may be a stereotype - but I would have expected those countries or Korea to have high standards in education system like lets say in Finland ..that teachers get treated well and paid well etc etc..but that all sounds quote corrupt and horrible.. maybe the korean drama Sky something wasn't so unrealistic after all...😅
If they had high standards, they wouldn't hire a college graduate with a mere Bechelor's degree and no real teaching experience in the first place.
That guy in the yellow sweater totally gets it. I'm with him all the way as a Korean. Korean society is highly capitalistic, stressful, and discriminative. People are not nice in general, and Korean parents nowadays are disgusting. Flashback to my English class in public school - it was wild. Not only they thought English was a break or playtime, but we always had these hateful students who'd give our English teachers a hard time. And if that wasn't enough, they'd go spreading rumors that the teacher was some kind of creep and they slept with their students. I will never forget their faces and names. I would never recommend anyone work in Korea.
You’re not Korean. Many Koreans are nice or at least respectful. You should not stereotype all Koreans based on your limited experience. Your comment is racist and ignorant. I bet there were at least a few nice or respectful Koreans, but you chose to focus on the ones that weren’t “nice”. Your school does not represent all of Korea just as you don’t represent all native English teachers.
Yes 👍🏽 speak up yellow scarf guy. If there’s a demand that doesn’t get filled then maybe they’ll raise salaries and increase suitable housing conditions…etc. I’m concerned because they TEACHERS recent suicide. It’s very concerning. The lady with her child is truly a blessing to her students. Stay healthy and positive. I definitely see S.KOREA as a Country with fascinating history, culture and interesting and unique destinations. I see the other “fluffy” stuff obviously 🙄 as a created fantasy. Great episode.
I never applied for Korea, but I obtained a TESOL many years ago, and applied for various Asian countries (I'm ABC). I got turned down for JET in Japan, random schools in Taiwan, and the only place where I got hired was China. At that time, I wasn't ready for China, so I never went.
What I am getting at is that what the lady at 5:10 says is exacly right. Many countries do not hide the fact that they only want white faces. From their perspective, there is no possible way someone with an Asian face could be fluent, even though they obviously know of many Asian American celebrities.
JET is more competitive than Korea.
I think it has less to do with concerns about fluency, and more about advertising a foreign experience to Korean parents. Even though most western countries are really diverse, when Asians think of the westerners they still think of some stereotypical white person with blonde hair and blue eyes. There might be some leeway given to hiring people of other races, but hiring someone of Asian descent doesn't allow the schools to really sell the experience of learning from a foreigner as easily. It's not right, but Korea doesn't have the same standards against racial discrimination.
@@TheRealityofFake Yeah, it’s all about perception. Even a blonde, blue eyed person from an Eastern European non-English country with an accent has a better chance than an Asian American with a 1600 SAT score with a Harvard degree (yes, it’s a slight exaggeration, but it does have merit). Speaking of that, I heard that the acceptance rate for JET is lower than for Ivy League schools.
The irony is that with many Asian countries, tons of celebrities were born in the US (especially with K-pop, HK movie stars, etc.), so you’d think they have an affinity for American born Asians because they represent “their people.” They could be an example of one of their own who can speak English well.
While the race because of accent reason is legit, most of those parents are too dum to notice the nuances anyway nor do they know foreign languages well enough to know the difference ; an Asian American from California is going to have a different accent from a White American from California (very very slight Asian accent even if they're born and raised in America unless they're adopted and raised by a White family in a purely White community)
Yes, this one lady from a Chinese program straight out told me they prefer white looking teachers. However, I think things are a bit better as they finally realize that not only white looking people know English well and can teach it.
Thankfully they found the man in the yellow scarf, he has clearly been through the rounds here and knows what he's talking about. Also glad they could find someone that appreciates the cultures beyond the Hallyu wave. Meanwhile, bro from Texas does nothing but propagate the stereotypes he's critiquing.
As a kpop stan, foreigner, and English teacher here in Korea, just want to say that you CAN do it here and be happy. We are harshly judged by other foreigners more than Koreans.
But just like the mom in the interview said, you do need to at least have some interest in teaching if you're going to do this job.
Love how real these responds are
The teacher who said she feels "special" is like, uh, not correct. The number of teachers has fallen due to FALLING demand.
This is interview was worth to watch. Thank you Asian Boss!!!
I teach English in Taiwan, the similarities are abundant. The intentions matter, if you come over for shallow reasons, you'll definitely have a rough time.😂
Did you try China?
@@kenyup7936 No, I'm openly queer so that's not a choice for me.
But if you teach at public school in Taiwan (they only accept govt-issued teaching/subbing licenses) the salary situation is much better and on average you get at least five weeks of paid leave a year, whereas here in Korea it's 35 days (not including weekends) in public school, plus the 12 or so red days. With hagwon jobs employees are entitled to 11 days in your first year (to be used at the employee's discretion), 14, the next, and every two years you accrue an additional two days, legally speaking, but there are still lots of job ads only offering ten days per year and they're split right down the middle between summer and winter. I've heard buxiban jobs are just as bad but the public school jobs are like golden tickets if you qualify.
@Hamidmahdi OH I agree, the benefits are fantastic! The flexibility here is better. Some places are bad, but most are great. The similarities are the work culture. My first job was a trap, but after that, it's been great!
@@Hamidmahdi same in China too
The whole loser back home thing is sometimes true and sometimes not true. I have a masters degree in education, and I taught in Taiwan for a while. I met a lot of people who claimed to be English teachers. Their sole purpose, for being in Taiwan was to make fast money, drink with her other foreign bodies, have inappropriate relationships. They truly denigrated the idea of being an English teacher. I moved on, yet before that I had the privilege of learning how to speak Mandarin and learning martial arts in Taiwan. It is the focus of what Someone is doing over there that makes a difference.
The majority of white people in Taiwan seem to be sexpats from my experience.
That is so true and I find that sad that true teachers with true intentions are undervalued due to those who teach for the wrong reasons. Therefore, all teachers get stereotyped for being losers back home which is not true at all.
English teaching institutes need to raise their requirements to prevent these kind of people you have described to apply and work for them. The LBH are additionally a threat for their students and country and are the reason the stereotypes exists
@@OCV102Dude I know people who were in the JET program, the strictest English teaching program to get into, and they went to Japan to be drunk and sleep with Japanese girls (by convincing them they have every intention to stay in Japan forever). I’m ashamed to say I have distant relatives who did that and would proudly boast back home how he would be hung over when he showed up to class… this the most rigorous English teaching job in Asia
They should require at least a Masters in Education. With an undergrad in English. The issue is very few would take that job.
That woman is so cool to be a single mom. Her kid will be very connected to her culture.
I’d be very interested to know what these interviewees’ backgrounds are. You just need any kind of bachelor’s degree to teach, so I want to know what their experience is and if any of them have a background in education or are actually licensed teachers in their home country.
I’d also want to know what demographics they teach.
I’m an English teacher in a small city in Gyeongsangbuk-do with a background in ed, so I notice some significant differences in my experiences and perceptions when compared to the interviewees’.
I’m the guy in a yellow scarf. I have two degrees in English education!! I came to Korea 6 years go. I teach all ages, from ages 8-58.
I definitely relate to your feeling of not being taken seriously - I have two degrees in English education as well.
In my experience, the majority of people who come to teach English in Korea don’t have backgrounds in English ed, so I can’t really blame people if they don’t see many native English teachers as actual teachers. I’m a bit inclined to agree with them, honestly…
It does suck to be painted with that same brush, though. I worked hard for these degrees 😭
I came here originally as an intern in TaLK, and then moved on to EPIK for a bit...with a degree in Spanish. I've met some ESL teachers here with degrees in all sorts of fields even when they're not related to Humanities. The thing is, joining EPIK or any of the other public school programs, they'll (usually) ask for at least one of the following:
1. a govt-issued teaching license from your home country
2. a TEFL/TESOL certificate
3. a CELTA/DELTA
Despite this, there is no difference in how the Native English Teachers are treated as we're just expected to be the "fun" animated teachers regardless of our abilities. Additionally, NETs aren't taken as seriously as Korean homeroom teachers (who also have a govt-issued teaching license) or sometimes even the Korean co-teachers (who may or may not have a teaching license).
I'm a certified teacher, but I feel pretty similarly to those interviewed. Especially about not being taken seriously.
I’m one of the teachers in the interview and I have two degrees:
English major and a graduate degree in political science. The comments are right and your educational background goes undervalued. I worked in communications for five years prior. When you start teaching for the first time at a hagwon in Korea you start at ground level. I knew nothing about how to teach before I set foot in a classroom.
Always interesting to see the different experiences of people working outside their home country. I like it because it's the good, the bad and the weird. It's not all bad or all good. Nice!
Love to hear their experiences
Sooo informative! Thank you!
Stephen, I love your screen presence, hope to see more of you in Asian Boss videos!
Yellow scarf guy giving people here a reality check and some dont like it🤣
Generally, hagwons don't want you to know Korean. At my hagwon, you get reprimanded if you explain anything in Korean. It's an English immersion school.
From personal experience as a student I think the most important thing is to make the lesson fun and interesting . I mean one of the best professors that taught us biology would always include some kind of trivia , some kind of notes from his research and so on that relates to the subject that he was teaching in order to make it interesting and entertaining and I think you could do that with English also, instead of complaining that students don't take the lesson seriously.
(And really who wants to learn that present progressive ,past progressive blah blah blah all that boring nonsense. People want to speak English, and personally the reality is that I've learned most of my English from video games, movies/TV and books, and I'd still get straight A's at any English test.)
So what I'm saying as advice to all the teachers out there: Make it your primary mission to make the lesson interesting/entertaining to the students in some way.
All teachers were students too! A lot of the time we don’t have control over what we teach… only how we teach and sometimes even how we teach is controlled. Of course we want it to be interesting and fun. However it’s not always possible due to different reasons (lack of time for planning, lack of resources, teacher burnout, bad classroom management, misbehaving students etc). Even when teachers put time and effort into creating fun and interesting lessons, a lot of students simply don’t care about English or respect English teachers 🤷🏻♀️.
This interview is amazing
The black woman was so cute wish her all the best ❤
I appreciate you 🥰
Can you guys do a street interview for people who don't go for teaching but other jobs? How else can a person move to Korea without being a teacher? What if you're just a regular person with an office job but want to move there? Or what if you are a freelance worker, what are the steps to take to move there?
First of all learn Korean if you want to work as non English teacher.
To work in an office, you need to have proof of Korean language aptitude by taking government tests (wayyyy harder than oppa kimchi saranghae). Freelance work is not legal on a working visa, so you will either need a residency visa or a marriage visa. Best way to come to Korea for long term is:
1) come as a student and graduate from a Korean university
2) come as an English teacher and work your way up
3) be ethnically Korean but born abroad
4) marriage visa.
Not worth a topic, you must understand in order for you to be coming into another country a company have to sponsor you and that you aquire spealize skills that is in demand that domestic supply can't reach. If you met these qualities the pools of 6 figures pay would be more lucrative back home. EVEN a smaller chance is your working for a international company that is willing to relocate you.
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Think about the reverse. In your own country how do foreigners get job opportunities ? The same would apply to Korea. Be "skilled"
Dope video, thank you..
You can’t be a loser because you need to go to college to teach English and that’s not a easy task a lot of sacrifices and dedication and patience 😮😅
EXACTLY and that's the patience, sacrifice and dedication not everyone has. So I commend and don't envy NONE OF THE TEACHERS! I've seen what they go through and they do a good job with us students😂.
Not only that but pass a drug test and a background check. Thats about 0% of the US population these days. Everyone smokes weed or has a DUI
@@demri123 Who are you hanging around with, lol? I don't know anyone with a DUI. Also, weed isn't too big deal because it leaves your system in a couple of weeks.
Oh common going to College is the bare minimum if you want to make anything of yourself. It’s not an accomplishment… you don’t deserve a cookie just because you have a useless art history degree.
Great video.
Would love to see content around foreigners in Taiwan
I'm an American in Taiwan. It's the same
I love South Korea and I feel really good teaching in this colorful side of the world. The girl saying, " I feel special and I feel that I'm required to bring here" is a feeling that she has adjusted to the culture & things are going well. Keep it up to all teachers in Korea ❤
Big respect to English teachers in Korea. I taught there one year (2017) at a Hagwon and it is hard work. I had some good times (the children being just lovely) but its hard. I've worked for the Police and Military since then and faced some challenging characters but honestly teaching in Korea was the hardest job I ever had with the toughest management.
But it was just a working holiday right? I bet it’s more rewarding than flipping burgers. That seems to be what people in Australia on working holidays tend to do when they travel to the UK or America.
Wonderly done!!
I think it’s interesting how different the responses were. I find it a bit odd that Korean employers prefer a non-Korean teacher. In my opinion, it shouldn’t matter as long as he/she does their job well. Then again, I have more of an American mentality though I’m ethnically Korean.
Because the parents want the full foreign experience
White worship. Its not only prevalent in Korea, but it on other asian countries too.
@@OCV102 Whatever, you don’t know what you’re talking about. 🙄
As a Korean-American living in Korea, with an advanced degree in English from an Ivy League university, I have been shocked by the lack of English language skills (grammar, etc) by these teachers. Many of the English teachers have their jobs NOT for their English language skills but because they have a 4 year degree and a passport from an English speaking country (and a white face). Koreans do not take learning English seriously, as they do for Math, say. Koreans are obsessed with education but not necessarily to learn. They study to pass tests but they do not test these teachers. I am sorry to say that IMHO many of the teachers have no business teaching the English language. Once Koreans takes English seriously, the teachers will get better pay and the qualified people - where ever they are from - will be given the job.
BTW most White Americans that you see in Korea are either teaching English or in the military. Socially, Koreans treat white foreigners very well and make them feel special - like the woman who said she never wanted to leave because she felt special to be in Korea . That said, they are never allowed to assimilate fully into the society either - no matter how long they’ve been in the country. Because the very thing that makes you special is the thing that keeps you out.
I don’t know how it is now but I remember back then foreigners who wanted to teach in South Korea had to go through a grueling process before they got hired, especially with the medical checkups which only foreigners were required to get an HIV test and a bunch of others. One teacher I remember had to go to the clinic for two days for a bunch of exams which involved X-rays for like his whole anatomy and they even checked his teeth. Like they want to make sure every foreign teacher is perfectly clean and healthy enough to teach there.
They are still required to do that
Korea seems boring
I think that is still required but I never heard of the HIV stuff.
Some of that is still required, i certainly did not have to get my teeth checked though
Guy in the gray sweater was very helpful! I’m studying to be an English teacher in Korea and his experience was very insightful. I have several friends who also teach English in Korea. I hope I can have the opportunity to do this really soon! I’m excited 😁
Interesting video 🙏
I wish you could have interviewed public school teachers.
It depends when they filmed the video. If they filmed it in on a weekday in the morning then most public school teachers would be working, whereas some hagwon teachers wouldn't have started work yet. If it was filmed on a weekend, then I don't know why they didn't invite public school teachers. I don't think they invited any South Africans either...
17:11 Great advice. Don’t spend time with negative people.
I´m a voice coach, this angle from a japanese perspective was SO interesting., the way each language molds its pedagogy to it. And the way your teacher framed the instructions was quite particular (in a good way) compared to western voice coaching. Definately taking notes here.
I taught in SK and Vietnam. Gonna go back home to do my PGCE so I can teach in international schools. That seems to be the way to go tbh
this is so spot on 😂😂😂😂😂
A SIGNIFICANT amount of English teachers in Korea just have a bachelor's degree and have an "English speaking Passport" as per Korea's ludicrous visa policy for English teachers. Basically, in Korea the government thinks "Hey, if I hire native speakers who have a random degree and a TEFL certificate, we are all good". The reality is that the reasoning will not help solve the problem. Getting under-qualified native speakers to teach English will only exacerbate the issue. Truth is, many people will not take them seriously because they are not actually qualified to teach, and it would not surprise me if they go to Korea because they can't get a better/decent job in their own country. Lucky you got your first-world "English-speaking Passport" lol.
THIS! and also, speaking from experience, learning a foreign language from a native speaker is NOT the best (especially when these 'teachers' are not even able to communicate with the students well because they don't bother to learn Korean). Take English for example, there are so many rules that native English speakers know without even being aware, for example how we order adjectives, "big, red, plastic chair" is the correct order but most don't even know this existed, they just say "it sounds right".
@gamlash95 your example sounds interesting, big red is correct, saying red big sounds weird, why though haha
Can you elaborate or give me a word to Google? 😂
@@veero8130 adjectives must follow the order of size, age, shape, colour, material. There are some other categories of adjectives I probably forgot but only these 5 come to mind XD
It's something native english speakers naturally know because parents/friends will correct them since young but never learned it as a set of rules to remember
@@gamlash95 I agree. Unless one consciously learns English syntax, most native speakers are not aware of why they speak the way they do. They just know they speak it in the way that feels "right". But that's not good enough to a non-English speaker who needs to know the rules.
I am a retired teacher in Canada, and I tried to apply for English teacher in Vietnam, and realized the biggest obstacle was my age! They want young, western looking person regardless of whether or not she/he has teaching degree or any teaching experience.
Seriously, it's mostly for optics. Good teaching skills is a bonus, not an expectation.
@@9y2bgyThe basic rule in Asia is if you are a blonde blue eyed early twenties female. You a pretty much guaranteed a job and spoiled for choice.
The Concrete Confessional blog guy wrote a hilarious article called "I Was Simon Song" about teaching / doing higher ed consulting for the children of China's rich and famous. He talks about the ominous political changes, too, but in a pretty balanced way. Worth checking out, for sure
13:33 this part was so relatable
not y’all stereotyping all kpop fans into “social awkward people who love bts and think it’s exactly like the kpop shows and kmovies “ there are kpop fans who are mature and understand that Korea is just like any other country with flaws and all. i came to korea for kpop and honestly I’m having an amazing time.
I fully agree! It was the same for me. Please don't think just because we like Kpop and Kdramas that we are delusional.. ps I'm the woman in blue!
Hallyu stans are the reason why the min wage hasn't moved up. Hagwon owners keep it 2.1 bc 22 year olds fresh out of college think it's a good deal to work for min wage bc they can meet their oppas
thank you i thought i was the only one who clocked that. The guy was just looking down at foreigners who go to korea…….while being a foreigner in korea
People who "clean" a criminal record is not a person we need to listen to 😂
Literally 🤦🏻♀️
I heard from some people that a 4 year university degree is required. However I’ve seen some job postings saying it’s not necessary. If I have a 2-3 year university degree, is that sufficient? Also can my degree be unrelated to teaching English as long as I have TEFL certified? Also I understand the rule about the top 7 native countries, but even the lady said that she knows people not from the 7 that got the job. May I know if it’s a hard and fast rule, or it’s a grey area with ways around it
As a person who is looking to apply myself to an English teaching job in Korea, this video JUST changed my mind. Great video!
Whatever you do, don't base the decision on videos like this.
There are so many variables, your personal experience will not look like anyone else's, and it will not look like any of your preconceptions (based on lots of personal experience).
If you have a college degree and a clean record, just go and see what happens.
It will be an adventure (in the full sense, ie, good and not so good, as every adventure should be).
Aim for teaching adults (way less stressful), and at schools run by foreigners (way more reasonable)
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Good call. Don't do it. The level of abuse because you're foreign is atrocious. You'll also be the scapegoat for anything that goes wrong in your department.
All those Korean bully dramas? There's a reason there are so many of them.
The Stephen host capture my heart ❤😂
Go Korea!!!! 🎉
Hey Ethan!!
Man in the yellow scarf is a W
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"I like Korean cinema...." Proceeds to name Parasite & Squid Games. 😑
yea and the reason why is because everyone knows them and they are recognizable
Those are actual Korean productions. What’s the problem? Netflix financed them
@@mydogisbaileyright
They are Korean. What am I missing?
I love the guy with the yellow 🧣
actually I am looking forward to teaching job in Korea
The guy who said "im doing it cus it's easy i don't care about the kids" 🥴
As usual it would be easier being West European White And White American then it would for any other race, ethnicity, nationality, or culture even The Koreans only fellow East Asians yeah.
Wah wah wah 🍼🍼🍼
Can confirm, brown girl (but Australian), and taught in Japan & China. Was more scrutinized for my ethnicity in China.
Wouldn't it make sense that schools and parents would rather native English speakers..... Not everything is a conspiracy you snowflake
As an English major and an ethnic Korean, they will reject me for the English teaching job specifically because they want a stereotypical "Western face" for English. Don't ask me why, I wouldn't know.
@@estherkang Bc they think a Westerner speaks English good, but an Asian speaks English bad...😉
3:02 That hilarious dig from the *meathead* and the perfect transition into the high-pitched *awkward nerd* is cinematic gold 😂
But also that man is going for his citizenship so he may appear like one of the stans or whatever its called but clearly has put in effort and been there a decent chunk of time to even qualify to take the test
He's so douchy.
@@andreaaldrich4046 Well he does come across as a stereotypical jock, but at least he seems honest and genuine about his answers.
Why did you feel the need to insult either of them?
@@andreaaldrich4046I don’t see how aside from his appearance. I think a lot of you didn’t like what he said about the people who moved their because of their like of Korean media.
I taught in SK and immediately I got extra jobs: taught an hr every morning at an LG factory, and an hr for lunch at a department store culture center, and taught several hrs of tutoring each week. I made a lot of money and saved it. How did I get the extra jobs? I learned the language and networked. After 2 years I saved $20k. I think a lot of teachers go out to dinner and drink too much. I guess I worked too much and that’s not for everyone. Also, I taught how I wanted to and wasn’t scared of bosses. Don’t want me? Sure. I’m outta here. But I was never fired. Stand up for yourself and follow your heart.
Standing up for yourself is key!! But not everyone is able to do that. I'm with you though.
I think i still want to pursue this career if being an LNA doesnt turn out to be what i wished for it to be, although both jobs can help me get out of america if i wish (and i do) i have the ability to travel with both jobs. However, i don't think i would choose Korea. Ive always been more drawn to thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos ❤❤
I was making 2.4 million in 2008-2009. Korea needs to raise the pay if they want quality teachers.
As I near the end of my working life here in the States, I have been wondering what to do with myself in retirement. Maybe I'll go teach English in Korea! Perhaps this will be an opportunity to reconnect with my Korean heritage and to relearn the language. Sure, the pay sucks, but it seems like easy work.
Nope, cases in that video says they struggle there
@@kenyup7936 It's only a struggle if you need the job. I have money so I don't need the job. It's more of an optional thing - a way to keep my mind sharp in retirement while paying it forward for society.
The retirement age in Korea is 60 and most schools will not hire someone that is older.
go for it homie, novel experiences are great
I agree with Bashore 101. Speaking from experience when I tried to apply for English teacher in Vietnam, Thailand, and China, the biggest obstacle was my age. I am a retired teacher of Korean ethnicity. They didn't want to go through the process of getting work visa only to have the gov't reject it due to my age, so they don't even want to try. They want people from 20s to mid-40s tops.
I was really surprised bc I naively thought my experience as a certified teacher would be my biggest asset. NOT! That tells you that the biggest factor in English language program in these Asian countries is the optics of having someone YOUNG who looks like she/he speaks excellent English. It's superficial, but parents dish out the big bucks, so their prejudices drive the program.
I like the tea of the guy with yellow scarf. Haha he tells reality of some student life in South Korea. 😂
ha... I am very depressed to hear this. I am a Korean language teacher for foreigners and the treatment toward us is nothing better than English teachers. Actually worse. But the situation is tough for English teachers since they don't have parents or relatives living here. Basically they have difficulty in moving here and there. The strict culture is tough to adjust and if they get married to a Korean and get no help from people.. the problem can be very serious. The black woman's story broke my heart.. To get out of this dark circle, it is important to have a long-term plan and have the journey as a bridge. I don't think people here really respect language teachers. We actually need to grow up
As a foreigner in Japan who taught for almost twenty years and is in a terrible situation and is stuck here, this is true. I am “not allowed” to work anymore because of my husband, but I miss it. I miss the kids. I loved the kids. I’ve been exploring possibly going to Korea, until I can work at somehow going back to my home country, but it’s so hard to get back into my home country at this point. I’ve been out of it so long, and I have no one left there plus my degree is only a basic four year degree and worthless there.
I think being a teacher in general is challenging and requires a lot of patience. It can also be so rewarding, though, when you see your students learn and grow!
I teach in China but I've been to SK. It's mostly due to the useless standard of English teaching at public schools, but I'd argue that the ESL industry is a bit of a scam because precious few people can speak basic English, especially in China.
Man, hearing that non-native speakers of English are not eligible in teaching in Korea saddens me. I am an education student from the Philippines who dreams of teaching English in Korea someday, but knowing that native speakers are "most" eligible makes me want to revise my dream. I guess Japan is still there for me anyways, lol.
Hi! I am currently working on becoming an English teacher in South Korea and I've done some research on the whole process and the thing is, you can still teach in Korea even though you're not a native English speaker. However, you are required to take a test to prove you can speak, read, write and understand English at an advanced level. The truth is Korean school officials do prefer to hire native English speakers, but it's still possible for you to teach in South Korea. It will just be more challenging in certain ways, but don't give up! If that's what you really want to do, then go for it!! 😁
@@babybujja1288 This is not true. The 7 "native" English countries are written in the immigration law. You cannot get a visa to teach English in Korea if you are not from Canada, USA, UK, Ireland, South Africa, Australia, or New Zealand. The only way around this is to have a residency visa, which means you either 1) are ethnically Korean born abroad, 2) are married to a Korean citizen, or 3) have lived in Korea for a long time and have taken the residency exams. I do not recommend teaching in Korea if you are a resident unless you absolutely enjoy it because most schools will not pay you enough to reach the minimum income requirement to acquire a residency visa.
@@Bashore101 With all due respect, that is not completely accurate. I just looked that information up online again and I read that some Korean schools will make exceptions for and sponsor non-native English speakers who are completely fluent in English. It's important to note that they will only do so for highly-skilled candidates, which is why many schools in Korea neither hire nor sponsor non-native English speakers.
Japan is even more strict and challenging than Korea is.
You should not give up and I am working towards it too. I heard my friend who is Korean American and is teaching in Korea now said that his academy hired a Russian teacher who was not a native speaker. You can still do it but it is just more challenging. I am fighting hard too.
guy in gray sweater is real af 😭
What about the regular school teaching instead of cram schools? Is that only for very experienced ESL teachers or only native teachers?
What is your definition of regular? I did a public school
@@RenCurrymusicalseoul regular school is not a cram school aka tutoring center
You can apply to work in a government elementary or middle school with no prior teaching experience. You just need a degree and to be from an eligible visa country.
I worked in Korea in 2010 and 2013, and I've worked in UAE and Vietnam after. The time I was there, there was definitely this kind of discrimination for hires and a very difficult work expectation. My hagwon had no sick leave and I easily worked 10 hours a day.
In vietnam, I was a manager of a language center and constantly fought with my directors over discriminatory hiring practices and the blind preference to white faces. It's changing, but not fast enough. Also the intense worry over parent complaints does rule the practices of a for profit center
To touch on the "loser back home" idea, because there are some schools that hire unqualified backpackers, this dilutes the quality of teachers in the profession. I've personally seen teachers with no qualifications, no desire to complete a certificate, etc and they are still able to secure work because they have an American passport.
The salary is why many people dont don’t do it $1700 a month is not a livable wage
Dude that says he's not there to meet chicks... idk. Ha. Kinda seems like you wanna meet chicks.
So I'm studying English teaching rn and am considering going to SK to teach, but I'm not a citizen of an officially English speaking country (I'm from Norway, although I'm styding in Germany), and here a bachelor usually takes three years. However, I've heard that the requirement is a 4-year bachelor. Would I still have chance, also in terms of citizenship?
You legally wouldn't be able to teach English in Korea, unless you recieved an f visa (through marriage, investment, or the point system) . One way to do that is to get a degree in Korea . But other than that it would be illegal. Its a crazy requirement but it is what it is.
No. The only way is for you to 1) become a citizen of an English country, 2) marry a Korean, or 3) live in Korea for many years and acquire the points-based residency visa (requires government language assessments and civics exams). I honestly do not advise becoming a teacher on residency visa unless its your passion because most schools do not pay enough for you to even qualify for residency.
Try for a South East Asian country, like Vietnam.
There are serious schools, run by serious people (often owned/run by various Australian universities). They employ non-native speakers.
They can be found in Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, etc.
My Vietnam experience was preferable in most ways to my experience in Korea (and payed more, despite being a far poorer country)
Of course, there are also lots of potential traps.
No
yellow scarf teacher is revealing the truth!
I knew it wasn’t but I swear I thought I saw Loni Love on the thumbnail for this video 😂
Interesting
Hello @Asian Boss can you also do an interview on Chinese citizens about their insights on the current issue of PH-China dispute on the West Philippine Sea and vice versa. Thanks
13:35 valid, veryyyyyyyyy
Dude at 11:27! hahah! "They think we're all like losers" and then admits "which a lot of people are, just weird people that come here trying to meet chics." too funny!
Do China please!
When I was there 2011-2018 I made between 2.3 million- 2.7 million. I can’t believe wages are sooooo low now!
Haha so hilarious I love that ‘white face’
I was seriously going to do this in 2013, and was talking to a recruiter, and then my life went wrong. I wish I actually got to go. But im a programmer now so maybe I could go anyway.
There is no time limit to it! Check the visa conditions and join us 😂 ps I'm the woman in blue!
For 2k a month? Man keep going with the programming haha.
Unless you really love kpop or something.
With your skillset, you could always take a gap year and come back to programming. I went the public school route instead of academy, and met plenty of people from other professions doing that. Also, you could program remote and teach if you want.
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Supply is low but too many qualified teachers in Korea are treated as dispensible or as chattel. Now that they are having more trouble recruiting, their solution in public schools is to give the teachers with good reports travel schools and extra requirements that burn them out, then tell them to be grateful they have a job.
I know one teacher who has 2 travel schools and is already teaching at 1.5 times her contract max hours. Her main school VP went to the province and said he wants to open more classes to compete with a private school. Instead of requesting a 2nd teacher, they doubled her already overfull schedule. She developed a heart condition from the stress and was told to get over it.
She's one of the best teachers in her province so they are trying to screw her into the ground.
Public schools are no better than hagwons. And the pay, yellow scarf is right. No movement in decades.
why do all the foreign guys have this thousand yard stare... lol
Korea makes you contemplate life
U get stared at a lot
Due to the weak currency, the salary is now very low for Westerners. About 1500-2k per month, USD. Lets be honest, you can make that easily just being an 18 yr old doing gig apps. So do you want to make less than an uber driver and work way more hours at a much harder job? Probably not. Unless you really love bulgogi or kpop!!
Australians have such a nice pronunciation but all people in the video seem quite educated and noble people. I didn't know so many Caucasians are in Korea actually. Crazy!!!😮😮😮 (written by a European).. Anyway I always hear so many things about Korea that show me that it's not actually so nice to live there in real life......as tourist spot it seems so exciting especially as Korean wave fan...but real life seems kind harsh there...😮
What it mean the supply of nglish teachers is low but the demand if it is oretty high?
It's crazy how an ethnically Korean man applying to teach a cohort of Korean kids is overlooked in favour of a white or foreign-looking applicant despite having the same level of qualifications to perform the job adequately...and people love to talk about how the West is so racially discriminatory when SK is overtly doing just that with their hiring policies.
I think it's also having to do with, if they hire a Korean, the salary would have to be much higher compared to the pay of these western "teachers"
You would think it would make sense hiring a person who can speak both Korean and English. But I guess they want the more cultural part of the European teachers as well.
The main reason they do this is because they want native English speaking accents.
It’s the parents more so than the schools themselves. The mothers want to see white, blue eyed teachers in photos with their kids.
@@CupofkoreaYou can have a native accent without being white.
The tattooed bodybuilder's answer seems pretty genuine. No bs. I like that. Comes across as a stereotypical jock, but that's just my bias, I suppose. But his answers are genuine and true. Not all teachers see their work as something more than a job. Teaching as a profession in Korea however is well respected bc it comes with the expectation that they make a huge impact in the lives of their students. So to that end it really goes a long way for a teacher to love what she/he does, and cares for the well being of their students.
You know he’s there to take down the local tang.
Korean teachers literally just walked out the classroom, en masse, to protest the rash of teachers who have killed themselves recently due to extreme abuse and bullying from Korean parents.
Just doesn't sound very 'respectful'.
How do u find so many teachers in one place? 😅
They were contacted from all over Korea
They post online in foreigner groups and people apply and travel there. Austin (blonde hair) isn't even from Seoul. He's a famous guy here because he's quite active in worker/political rights for foreigners.
Wait someone from poland could teach in korea? I thought thats impossible… has someone heared of more stories oike this?
No unfortunately they can’t because it’s not considered an English speaking country
No please dont be confused. It's illegal unless they have an F series visa. With an F series visa, anyone from any country can do any job legally. Ps I'm the woman in blue!
You actually can, but usually that's in a city that is not popular (so not seoul or busan), since they have trouble finding teachers in rural areas. Usually all people just apply in Seoul.
What accent is taught when teaching English in Asia? Obviously an Australian accent vs American accent sound vastly different! Even I had some trouble understanding someone with a thick Irish accent, can't imagine what it's like learning that as a non native speaker.
In Korea, we learn American accents in school. I've heard that Japanese schools also teach American accents, and in Chinese schools, it can be either American or British, depending on the institution (though I'm not entirely certain, it might be the other way around). As far as I know, Hakwons have a variety of accents; my kids' teachers were from the U.S., the UK, South Africa, etc. I've never met an Irish teacher, which can be challenging for me as well. The Australian accent isn't that difficult to understand if they don't speak too fast. I believe there are Australian or New Zealand teachers in Korea.
Well, my kids have Korean accent anyway, so I do not really care what accent their teachers have.