Overwhelming Whirlwind of Counterpoint: Bach’s BWV 79 Cantata (Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild)

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    Richard Atkinson analyzes the overwhelming whirlwind of counterpoint in the opening chorus of J. S. Bach's BWV 79 cantata, "Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild".
    This is a fair use educational commentary that uses excerpts from the following recordings/performances:
    Bach:
    Cantatas, BWV 1, BWV 21, and BWV 79
    Bach Collegium Japan, Masaaki Suzuki
    Cantatas, BWV 8 and BWV 61
    Collegium Vocale Gent, Philippe Herreweghe
    Well-tempered Clavier, Book II, Fugue in G minor
    Angela Hewitt, Pianoforte
    Well-tempered Clavier, Book I, Fugue in C-sharp minor
    András Schiff, Pianoforte
    Pachelbel: Fugue in C major for organ, P. 132
    Antoine Bouchard, Organ
    Händel: Concerto Grosso No.7 in B flat major, HWV325 - II. Allegro
    The Academy of Ancient Music Orchestra, Andrew Manze, violin & director
    Giovanni Gabrieli: Canzon seconda a quattro
    London Brass
    Copland: Appalachian Spring
    New York Philharmonic Orchestra, Leonard Bernstein
    Haydn: Symphony No. 70 in D major
    Heidelberg Symphony Orchestra, Thomas Fey

Komentáře • 204

  • @vrixphillips
    @vrixphillips Před 2 lety +112

    Truly amazing.
    Reminds me of that joke about "not all musicians believe in god but they all believe in Bach"
    his counterpoint is truly a religious experience

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +28

      True! Plus, ample evidence for Bach!

    • @violoncello4439
      @violoncello4439 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Richard.Atkinson And so Bach is ample evidence for God!
      (Fantastic video by the way, as always)

    • @necroyoli08
      @necroyoli08 Před 2 lety +12

      @@violoncello4439 Yep, Bach is ample evidence of Bach.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +6

      @@violoncello4439 Yeah, but that’s just the reflexive property.

    • @violoncello4439
      @violoncello4439 Před 2 lety +6

      ​@@Richard.Atkinson Haha, now I get Kurtz's comment.. Does that make Mendelssohn St Paul?

  • @juhis_oksanen
    @juhis_oksanen Před 2 lety +71

    I guess Bach and other composers would have been glad to know that there will be a guy to show every single idea of theirs with coloured bars so that we future listeners will have a chance to truly understands what they have created! Thank's for your wonderful work, Richard!

  • @Luboman411
    @Luboman411 Před 2 lety +8

    I heard this cantata for the first time when I was in my early 20s, knowing almost next to nothing of musical theory or composition. I think it was either my second or third Bach cantata I had ever heard. Damn, was I blown away! This counterpoint-fugue "soup" paired with the timpani "dum-dum-dum-dum" that happens at the beginning was like NOTHING I had ever heard before. It was so incredibly complex yet so melodious, like I had accidentally stumbled upon a musical version of one of those Hubble telescope pictures of the universe. That is why I love Bach--he gets to the eternal so quickly, so effortlessly, with these counterpoint-fugue "soups." And then the breaking of the chorus with a totally different harmony--marvelous! Like the Sun had literally arisen from behind the Earth. That's when I realized I had stumbled upon a unique musical genius. And I've been hooked to Bach ever since.

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 Před 2 lety +41

    I was a member of the Bach Society for a while years ago (odd, since I don't speak German). One of the annual "gifts" was an LP of BWV 79 & 80 out of East Germany. So this has a special resonance :-)

  • @thethikboy
    @thethikboy Před 2 lety +13

    "Soup of contrapuntal fragments" The unbridled beauty of Bach's counterpoint always makes me cry - but your analysis does the impossible - it increases my appreciation of the sublime.

  • @lymanmj
    @lymanmj Před 10 měsíci +1

    That Bach cantata is a gorgeous piece beautifully explained. Thank you, Richard!

  • @RichardASalisbury1
    @RichardASalisbury1 Před 2 lety +4

    Every time I listen to and watch one of your videos I understand better both the complexity and ubiquity of counterpoint, and not just in the music of my hero J.S. Bach. Thanks!

  • @Nooticus
    @Nooticus Před 2 lety +3

    As a huge Bach Cantata nerd, you clearly know your choral Bach very very well! Also I'm very happy to hear a shout out for Pachelbels other music which is always stunning!

  • @willemmusik2010
    @willemmusik2010 Před 2 lety +10

    Overwhelming in Bach’s world = *AMAZING*

  • @jeandoten1510
    @jeandoten1510 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for this! I have had the good fortune to sing this with chorus with a professional orchestra in a church with great acoustics--and those horns are absolutely thrilling every time they come in!

  • @fantage_lukeh2o
    @fantage_lukeh2o Před 2 lety +3

    These analyses brought me to hold Bach as my favorite composer. I interpret music with so much more depth and enjoy it infinitely more as a contrapuntal art thanks to this channel!
    It would be fantastic to have an analysis on one of (or however many of) Bach's ingenious Orchestral Suites, BWV 1066-1069. In my humble opinion, the fugue of No. 1 in C major is the most contrapuntally complex and difficult to understand, while No. 2 is the most fun to deconstruct.

  • @samuelpazicky3672
    @samuelpazicky3672 Před 2 lety +11

    “Yes, he actually composed other things”. Hahahahahaha thank you I laughed.

  • @CarlitosDessay
    @CarlitosDessay Před 2 lety +4

    A delightful end for a hell of a week. Thank you Richard!

  • @monicacall7532
    @monicacall7532 Před 2 lety +2

    I wish that you’d been my instructor for form and analysis classes in college! You actually make sense. My professors would leave me scratching my head and thinking that I must be the stupidest person in class. (Later on I discovered that nearly everyone else in those classes felt the same way.)
    The music of JS Bach always sends me to another sphere. As the great cellist and Bach specialist Pablo Casals often said Bach’s music is in a category all by itself. And yet, for so much of his life, he considered himself to be a hired hack composing and conducting music for specific occasions. I wish that there was a way so that he would be able to see the love and respect that his music engenders wherever it’s heard.

    • @777rogerf
      @777rogerf Před rokem

      Historians say that Bach was famous throughout Europe and held very high positions that paid well at a time when fine music was an extremely important function of both religious and court culture. That said, it must have been a highly demanding life, with little or not time off for rest and recreation.

  • @trevjr
    @trevjr Před 2 lety +5

    Terrific video. As one that understands everything you talk about instantly it is such a great pleasure. I love the examples from other pieces and composers. Oh how we forget that Pachelbel was a great composer. Everytime I hear a piece of his I think I really ought to study him more. About repeated notes section I thought right away, g minor book 2, and there it was!! You know this counterpoint reminds me alot of the motets, there are some fierce whirlwinds in there too. I have heard and played so much Bach but I have not touched the cantatas at all. This video really makes me want to get into them. There is so much there, just wow. I just heard the Mass in F for the first time today, it was as if another universe opened, except with Bach whatever I am listening to is familiar and like the first time all at once, hard to describe.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus Před 2 lety

      All of Pachelbel's sacred music, organ music and instrumental music, is all stunningly incredible!!!

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 Před 2 lety +2

    I heard you mentioning the repeated note subject in Bach as it relates to Mozart and when you mentioned The Magic Flute, I was like "Yes, that repeated note subject is my favorite part of the fugato that is the fast section of the overture of that opera." And when I heard the Bach cantata, it was just as I expected out of Bach, amazing and ingenious.

  • @jaysonfrankwitbooi216
    @jaysonfrankwitbooi216 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for thus very Good presentation. You done it so well to dive in the tremendous storm of the mind of Johann Bach. Even trying to explain it takes some words and illustrations of great mind to make sense to those that are not as gifted. Being a counterpoint composer myself, may I say that this comes from the Holy Spirit, He with Jesus and God the Father have this deep wisdom and power in knowledge in everything they do. As Masterfully complex as galaxies, planets or marine world under the sea, playfully interwoven, so is the miracles of saving a sinner to the love of Jesus and his eternal Kingdom. JS Bach was one of the greatest instruments in the Lord's hands like apostle Paul because Bach possessed the childlike conviction and humbleness required, to become a little servant of the most High, that's why we discover such hights and depths in the works manifest by faith through the hands of Bach. When we became nothing and God everything, God can manifest, channeling anything through the portals of out Talents!

  • @sameash3153
    @sameash3153 Před 2 lety +2

    A really good fugue with repeating note motifs, Telemann's TWV 30:18, Little Fugue in F Major. This little ditty has been stuck in my head for years, I can't get it out.

  • @TheOneAndOnlyZeno
    @TheOneAndOnlyZeno Před 2 lety +2

    I hope this channel hasn't died :(

  • @stereotyp9991
    @stereotyp9991 Před 2 lety +1

    I thank you so much for these in-depth analyses! Please keep em coming!

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother Před 2 lety +2

    I really need to start listening to more Bach again.

  • @clintow
    @clintow Před 2 lety +2

    A truly magnificent Richard Atkinson Style Tangent. Thank you sir!

  • @WoutDC
    @WoutDC Před 2 lety +1

    It indeed does overwhelm the senses... Thanks for this great video!

  • @johnpax1122
    @johnpax1122 Před 2 lety +2

    re: ~9:46 - also Orlando Gibbons' Fantasia in C, work 14 in the Britannica collection of his keyboard works (the one that Gould recorded)

  • @anthonytheodosiadis581
    @anthonytheodosiadis581 Před 2 lety +5

    Great work - You really did a great job of breaking down Bach's genius compositional skills in this work - really like your channel :)

  • @francisfournier3177
    @francisfournier3177 Před 2 lety +2

    Marvellous video ! !

  • @neosannyasin8022
    @neosannyasin8022 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks so much for your great videos, Richard Atkinson!

  • @lr1594
    @lr1594 Před 2 lety +2

    I love that you mentioned the opening of BWV 8, one of Bach's most unique movements. The second recitative (alto) of BWV 198 also comes to mind, which similarly evokes death bells (which are also literally in the text there).

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip Před 2 lety +1

    Another Fantastic video. I remember bach fugue bwv 949 starts with 4 notes

  • @neosannyasin8022
    @neosannyasin8022 Před 2 lety +1

    Bravo, Richard Atkinson! Great videos, really great! So inspiring! Hope to meet you in person some day.

  • @thegolgatha5337
    @thegolgatha5337 Před 2 lety +1

    O man, I often spend the nights with your analysis, I simply love them.
    Although I think I know a lot about Bach and his composing style YOU always reveal further details and, if we try to learn from this, we‘re able to listen totally differently to such mind blowing music, be it Bach or other composers. Therefore a HUGE „Thank you“ to you !!!

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 Před 2 lety +12

    Man, if I didn't need to go to sleep now I would watch this video right away.
    Anyways, I guess I will watch it tomorrow. But I admit tonight I will have trouble sleeping because of the hype.

  • @enriquesanchez2001
    @enriquesanchez2001 Před 2 lety +3

    Richard, thank you so much for constantly BLOWING my mind! ❤ ❤ ❤

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +2

      I think Bach should get most of the credit for that!

    • @enriquesanchez2001
      @enriquesanchez2001 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Richard.Atkinson Well he does, but your insight elevates my appreciation and for that I am most grateful. ♥

  • @ericfern8869
    @ericfern8869 Před 2 lety +8

    This fugue theme greatly resembles a theme in the Magic Flute overture by Mozart, though Bach's beat is on the back foot, while Mozart's is on the more urgent front foot, as befits an opera composer.

  • @SebLP97
    @SebLP97 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video as always. I immediately thought of that Händel Concerto Grosso when you were speaking of repeated notes in contrapuntal subjects.
    Another passage that comes to mind is "Es ist keine Sprache noch Rede" from the opening chorus of BWV 76 "Die Himmel erzählen die Ehre Gottes".

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +5

      Yes, that’s another great chorus! I didn’t even think of it for that tangent, even though I know it very well!

  • @leonhardeuler6811
    @leonhardeuler6811 Před 2 lety +1

    The parrelel major fugue to g minor book 2: b-flat major from book 1, has a similar reapted note configuration in the countersubject.

  • @ironmaz1
    @ironmaz1 Před 2 lety +3

    A friend once told me bach makes him dizzy... he doesn't know what he's missing ! Maybe I should show him one of your videos :)
    edit: Watching this video with my Saturday breakfast has brought me tintinnabulations of joy !!

  • @oldbird4601
    @oldbird4601 Před 2 lety +1

    Yay a video now we just need ashish xiangyi kumar to upload

  • @marcogusy6870
    @marcogusy6870 Před 2 lety +1

    When I see that unreachable mastering of composition technique i always try to figure out what Bach felt knowing (because surely he was aware) he was and would be the greatest composer of all times.
    He challenged all the upcoming musicians and still make us speechless by showing off what his incredible brain could do.
    I ask myself what did he feel knowing his musical intelligence was dozens times bigger than any other living musician. Remember that at his times listeners didn't get the real value of his compositions, he often has been seen has a overcomplicated confusionary composer. Nonetheless he kept on writing with higer and higer and higer level of musical genius like he was sure that his work would go through time and live on like it did and still does.
    Now his genius is all over the world, entered in the heart of every music student. A giant everyone knows would never reach.

  • @russbartoli6596
    @russbartoli6596 Před 2 lety +1

    This movement was also used as the Gloria of the G Major ('parody') mass (BWV 236) . It certainly fits those words as well.
    I was blown away by it and have arranged it for strings (quintet and quartet versions) on IMSLP.

  • @Georgeth-kb6rg
    @Georgeth-kb6rg Před rokem +2

    Bach is so impressive and overwhelming.... but Handel always touches me emotionally...

  • @harrisipock9112
    @harrisipock9112 Před 2 lety +2

    One example of a fugue subject with repeated pitches from pop culture: "Going the distance" and "Rocky's Reward" by Bill Conti from the Rocky OST. Not a strict fugue but worth mentioning.

  • @lyricsronen
    @lyricsronen Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Richard,
    As always very fine content. I really enjoy watching your videos and I learn a lot from them. I would love to see a video analysis about Mozart's C minor Mass, and the incredible harmonic journeys and counterpuntel ideas that flourish throughout that piece, particularly in the opening Kyrie, the short Gratias movement, and of course the inverted fugal lines in Jesu Christe - Cum Sancto Spiritu.

  • @Bertarido
    @Bertarido Před 2 lety +1

    I actually cried 🥲 out of joy while listening to this one…

  • @katbullar
    @katbullar Před 9 měsíci +1

    I love your videos!

  • @olivermanley24
    @olivermanley24 Před 2 lety +1

    So cool keep the videos coming!!! :)

  • @clintow
    @clintow Před 2 lety +1

    I don't know what happened to the 2nd horn in Heidelberg on his way to work but holy cow dude

  • @AGAG789
    @AGAG789 Před 2 lety +3

    Huh. I always thought that the flute in BWV8 represented the 24 hours of the day because it is exactly 24 notes every time. And because the title is "When will I die?" So I like to imagine that he is pondering about what time of the day will we actually die at.

  • @tamed4171
    @tamed4171 Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite part of Richard Atkinson videos is forgetting what the video was originally about due to a tangent

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Před 2 lety +4

    To me this has a similar spirit to the first Brandenburg concerto (the third movement of which also has a repeated-note theme but isn't as fugal)

  • @Brandon55638
    @Brandon55638 Před rokem +1

    This chorus actually is based on the chorale tune "Now Thank We All Our God" because parts of the melody is buried in the orchestral counterpoint and the horns' theme alludes to it, since it is restated in the third movement.

  • @djbabymode
    @djbabymode Před 2 lety +2

    I love the way you notice motifs in the language of classical music, such as the repeated notes fugal subject motif and the Mozart "calling card" motif. I'm guilty of using both!

  • @patrckhh20
    @patrckhh20 Před rokem +1

    I love how the colors are that of sherbet rainbow icecream.

  • @ottavva
    @ottavva Před 2 lety +1

    GOD BLESS YOU :)

  • @AJBlueJay
    @AJBlueJay Před rokem +1

    13:24 The Haydn fugue from his 70th symphony really reminds me of A Vivaldi fugue. Especially a few bars before the pedal point in both pieces have similar things happening, including a chain of suspensions. The Vivaldi fugue in Op 3, No. 11, third movement, Allegro. I don't think Haydn was copying Vivaldi but the similarly is interesting!

    • @AJBlueJay
      @AJBlueJay Před rokem

      And also part of it sounds almost exactly like Vivaldi Op 4, No. 4, i 😂

  • @late8641
    @late8641 Před 2 lety +2

    Also the pedal line in _Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ_ is said to represent God knocking on the heart, if I remember correctly, and the 16th notes represent the wandering soul.

  • @davidecarlassara8525
    @davidecarlassara8525 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! I am really looking forward to some b minor mass...
    Btw Haydn's 70th symphony is easily my favourite of that period

  • @gradwhan
    @gradwhan Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for mentioning Haydn almost every Haydn video.
    I went to the opening concert of the Haydn Festival in Eisenstadt.
    Maybe it's worth a visit?
    Great work btw!

  • @CivicPiano1
    @CivicPiano1 Před 2 lety +1

    Will you ever do an analysis of the art of fugue? or selections from it? i'd love to see a video on the 14th unfinished contrapunctus, i think i'd learn so much :)

  • @Zimzamzoom95
    @Zimzamzoom95 Před 2 lety +2

    Could you do an analysis on the incredible counterpoint of the Adagio from Mozart’s 23rd concerto?

  • @MasonIshida
    @MasonIshida Před 2 lety +3

    Great video, now I’m hungry for soup…

  • @thereddot_
    @thereddot_ Před 6 měsíci

    Don't forget the Danse Macabre, by Saint-Seans, where he takes the Dies Irae and comically turns it major and valsy

  • @TheHunterGracchus
    @TheHunterGracchus Před 2 lety +2

    Pachelbel also taught J. S. Bach's oldest brother, Johann Christoph Bach.

  • @markkumollari
    @markkumollari Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks, wonderful - and special thanks for great comparisions with Haydn and Handel.

  • @keithhill9901
    @keithhill9901 Před 2 lety +1

    In the BWV 8, it is pretty clear to me that the repeated notes in the flutes express perfectly the affect of ecstasy.

  • @chrisanderson6353
    @chrisanderson6353 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you please give me a refresher course in Form-Analysis. This is the 1st time that I've watched any of your videos and they are by far the most comprehensive, fluid and understandable videos on analyzing form I've ever seen. Thank you!! Do you have a video on Mozart's Jupiter Symphony K 551.

  • @Joe_Yacketori
    @Joe_Yacketori Před 2 lety +2

    On the topic of repeated, percussive themes in counterpoint........ the Diabelli Variations fugue! God I love that fugue. Arguably Beethoven's second best fugue (we all know what the best one is). That would make for a great video!

  • @FlorianGombert-uj7dn
    @FlorianGombert-uj7dn Před 2 lety +1

    Hello Richard, first of all I wish you a happy and healthy new year. I really love your channel and your contrapuntal analyzes, but keep asking myself when one actually speaks of contrapuntal. I've read and found out so much about counterpoint, but somehow nothing is clear. When is a passage contrapuntal and when is it not yet? That confuses me a bit and is somehow not that clearly defined. Is something also contrapuntal if only individual motifs are set against a melody, but the motifs themselves do not represent a melodic flow? And does imitation have to take place within the different voices? These may be strange questions, but they are kind of unclear to me.

  • @peterelliott5720
    @peterelliott5720 Před 2 lety +1

    A fascinating analysis as usual Richard! It would be great if you could do the BWV 849 fugue in C# minor at some point... or maybe the Contrapunctus 8 or 11. That would be incredible! Many thanks!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety

      I already have a video on BWV 849, but I haven't yet tackled the Art of Fugue.

    • @peterelliott5720
      @peterelliott5720 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Richard.Atkinson Wow, thanks for such a fast response! I don't know how I missed it but look forward to giving it a watch later :)

  • @sameash3153
    @sameash3153 Před 2 lety +1

    I always thought the rhythm of both the plucked strings and the repeated flute notes in BWV 8 sound like a clock ticking, the flute perhaps being some type of bell for a primitive alarm. The clock symbolism serving as a memento mori in a text about dying.

  • @theolineberry3960
    @theolineberry3960 Před 2 lety +1

    Cool to see Handel use that rhythmic diminution trope so prevalent in modern EDM. I’d like to see more living musicians sample classical music. J Dilla did a good job of it, but we don’t have him anymore 😭

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před rokem

      Yes, I think "Too Many Zooz" must have been inspired by that Handel moment:
      czcams.com/video/jMe6Y8GDVEI/video.html

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 Před 2 lety +9

    Haydn was such a geek :-) How much did he know of JSB?

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +11

      He owned an autograph of the Well-tempered Clavier, so he at least knew that.

    • @kneza96BG
      @kneza96BG Před 2 lety

      @@Richard.Atkinson Didn't he also own a copy of Mass in B minor?

  • @Forcroi
    @Forcroi Před 2 lety +1

    It seems to me the flute motive in BWV8 represents, if anything, the ticking of the clock. See the recitativo ‘der glocken bebendes getoen’ from BWV198 for comparison.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, part of my point is that it’s not obvious that it definitely represents anything, but fun to guess.

  • @jong-jieyin5593
    @jong-jieyin5593 Před 2 lety +1

    Im expecting make an analysis of Sibelius's Fifth Symphony, Its very unique…

  • @mkd1964
    @mkd1964 Před 2 lety +1

    Bach re-used/re-worked this chorus as the "Gloria" of the Mass in G major (the so-called "short masses" or "Lutheran Masses" ). I actually like that version somewhat better. Maybe because I knew it first. Here it is with score: czcams.com/video/TEx2ztdMo-U/video.html
    But this is my favorite version (a little slower): czcams.com/video/dCdhlkPt_wQ/video.html
    Yes, it's a phenomenal piece of music. Great video!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +1

      I like the original better since it has horns and timpani.

  • @trevjr
    @trevjr Před 2 lety +1

    The c# minor is a triple fugue right? That's the 3rd subject, came much later than the cantata? Bach had to reuse it? Just amazing.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety

      The cantata was from 1725. Book I of the WTC was published in 1722.

    • @leonhardeuler6811
      @leonhardeuler6811 Před 2 lety

      Well he uses that subject all the time: BWV 21/ii, BWV 1064/iv, BWV 1001/fuga

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 Před 2 lety +2

    How fortunate we are to live in the era of the "back 5 seconds" button :D

  • @willsherlock9544
    @willsherlock9544 Před 2 lety +1

    I think I remember hearing something about how the number of repeated notes in BWV8 (there are 24) was the same as the number of bell tolls that would happen after a death in Leipzig. That may not be totally accurate though.

  • @Angel33Demon666
    @Angel33Demon666 Před 2 lety +1

    Still waiting on that Missa Solemnis video…anyway, great work on this video. I have never been too much of a fan of Bach’s cantatas but these videos are really broadening my horizons.

  • @matthiasm4299
    @matthiasm4299 Před 2 lety +1

    12:00 Phew, I was getting worried! 😅

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +3

      I told you already that it would be in there!

    • @matthiasm4299
      @matthiasm4299 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Richard.Atkinson I know, but you kept the Haydn for the very last example! 😅 Anyway, great job with the video!

  • @Johnwilkinsonofficial
    @Johnwilkinsonofficial Před 2 lety +1

    Richard, please consider doing analyses of some of the titanic organ masterpieces by bach. i am listening right now to Fuga super Jesus Christus unser Heiland from the clavierubung III bwv 689, astounded by the spiritual weight and sonic richness flooding my consciousness. id love to get a sense of the craftsmanship at work as well.

  • @carsonwall2400
    @carsonwall2400 Před 2 lety +8

    What do you think is the most eargasmic moment of counterpoint in all of Bach's output?

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +6

      Probably something from the B minor Mass?

    • @memeculture3506
      @memeculture3506 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Richard.Atkinson The B Minor Mass is up there. What about the Art of Fugue?

    • @community-fusionnetwork4131
      @community-fusionnetwork4131 Před 2 lety

      @@Richard.Atkinson oh wow Richard that's what I said. Have you ever analyzed the Cum Sancto Spiritu?

    • @community-fusionnetwork4131
      @community-fusionnetwork4131 Před 2 lety +2

      @@memeculture3506 Art of Fugue is up there. There's one Fugue in that work that is simply Demonic, it's hard to explain, but it sounds evil. Scared me so bad when I first heard it. Truly terrifying

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +6

      @@starless5668 I love that chromatic subject!

  • @SquidKing
    @SquidKing Před 2 lety +1

    bach writes surprisingly difficult horn music

  • @community-fusionnetwork4131

    Love your channel! Richard, come join our fugue contest, we have 50 contestants so far.

  • @CalebCarman
    @CalebCarman Před 2 lety +4

    Yes! Handel’s chicken coop fugue!

    • @CalebCarman
      @CalebCarman Před 2 lety +4

      Another great example is Bach’s organ fugue in G Major BWV 541!

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +6

      @@CalebCarman Yes, another great one!

  • @chickenflavor9880
    @chickenflavor9880 Před 2 lety +3

    Can you analyze beethovens missa solemnis?

  • @soschadao
    @soschadao Před 2 lety +1

    Can you do Mozart’s Paris symphony? I found it so cool!

  • @juwonnnnn
    @juwonnnnn Před 2 lety +1

    👏

  • @eliasmerki3845
    @eliasmerki3845 Před 2 lety +1

    Will there be Videos for Brahms Symphony No. 4? I would love it

  • @natcharmusic
    @natcharmusic Před 2 lety +1

    LOL the pachabel reference 😂

  • @patrickrealdeal
    @patrickrealdeal Před 2 lety +1

    Hi Richard, do you have a book recommendation to learn counterpoint from?

  • @user-ejsfidcknk
    @user-ejsfidcknk Před 2 lety +1

    what is countpoint?

  • @fritzw.5057
    @fritzw.5057 Před 2 lety +1

    Did anyone count the notes of the tympani representing the knocking? Maybe they are 95 ^^

  • @sdzhchannel
    @sdzhchannel Před 2 lety +1

    No video about repeated note fugal subject is complete without Zelenka' s any Cum sancto spiritu fugue (with that of Missa Dei Filii taking it to an extreme)

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +3

      That's a great example! I also love its repetitive countersubject.

    • @sdzhchannel
      @sdzhchannel Před 2 lety +1

      @@Richard.Atkinson I feel honoured by this fast reply! :D . Anyway, Zelenka' s usually weird fugal ideas have always impressed me - from almost clumsy chromatic and even "not quite diatonic" subjects (I shall try to find that one, it was a finale of a psalm setting I think) to quite simple ones, based on arpeggios and repeated tones, they all sound distinctive and memorable.

  • @derekdavid1
    @derekdavid1 Před 2 lety +6

    FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I was also the first to like it)!!!! LOL!!! BravO!

  • @planetsoccer99
    @planetsoccer99 Před 2 lety +1

    wow, what is the tuning on that piece 8:30? sounds funky!

  • @zhihuangxu6551
    @zhihuangxu6551 Před 2 lety +1

    Would Mr. Atkinson please do something about Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No.2 or his Paganini Rapsody (of which variation 18 is famous)?

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +2

      I don’t want to disappoint you, but I’m not a huge Rachmaninoff fan.

    • @zhihuangxu6551
      @zhihuangxu6551 Před 2 lety

      @@Richard.Atkinson That's okay, one shall have the freedom to post or not to post anything at the disposal of their will

  • @neilwalsh3977
    @neilwalsh3977 Před 2 lety +1

    I call them Hammer Tones

    • @neilwalsh3977
      @neilwalsh3977 Před 2 lety +1

      After Richard did this video, I found some examples in the Matthew Passion - Richard knows his stuff!!!

  • @hwh1946
    @hwh1946 Před 2 lety +1

    OK.I know you are on patreon but can you tell me a little about yourself. In my younger life I was a professional musician, attended Juilliard and knoked around NYC for about a decade and even got to do some conducting.

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/zr2SaSsOXhk/video.html
      Here’s an interview I did earlier this year, if you’re interested!

  • @albertgerheim4149
    @albertgerheim4149 Před rokem

    I wasn't familiar with BWV 79, but I heard this movement in the Lutheran Mass, BWV 79. I KNOW I've heard it elsewhere. Christmas Oratorio? ...????

    • @Richard.Atkinson
      @Richard.Atkinson  Před rokem

      The music from this chorus was repurposed for the BWV 236 mass.