I love the 14D! Bought it instead of the Mten3 that was inside eWheels's container that went up on flames last January (no more Gotways for me since then). Gave it to my daughter who uses it to go to school, only wheel that will fit in her locker. I've replaced it with the 14S which I love even more. It's a bit less nimble, but still it's my goto wheel for commuting and shopping. The slow speed is actually something I like about it. I set an alarm at 25, and that slower pace lets me use it with minimal gear, just a bike helmet and wrist guards. So handy and practical. It's even pretty water resistant, which is another reason I use it so much. I love that you've done a review of the 14D! That's the one I also recommend to anyone who wants to learn. Even when they graduate to a more powerful wheel for sporty rides, it's still an excellent 2nd wheel to have. Cheapest way to get into the hobby!
My kids love the 14d, me too tbh. It had more miles on it after a month than my S18 got in a year. It's just so damn convenient. My mten3 feels crap compared, less features so so sketchy to ride and double the cost.
14D was my first wheel and I still keep it because it’s a great little wheel. The only reason I upgraded was to gain longer range comfort, but at the expense of manoeuvrability. I also have an Mten3 for shopping amongst pedestrians and the S18 for longer trips. I actually love the 14D for off-road as it’s so easy to control at low speeds and has great torque (although I’m not a heavy rider). Thanks for reviewing this wheel as I’m sure new riders will find it useful to have a review that’s not just for high performance riders.
My first wheel was a KS14S with 840wh. It could do 60km on one charge with its 800w motor, and I thought that 30 km/h was more enough. I'm now riding an 18incher from Gotway that makes 50km/h a breeze, but I really did like the kingsong. The only thing that was awful was that 30 km/h top speed. I reckon that if it had gone to 35 I would have upgraded later. It still is a great commuter wheel.
I think the new InMotion V8S is an awesome solution for portability and range. Small wheels definitely have a big market and I suspect once we get over the "race to the top", manufactures will begin looking at these again. Great video :)
@@evgeniy19 if S18 can make do with 3 ||, then V8S can do with 2 || even better. 2 is enough for redundancy, and this wheel is rated quite low for power (2000W peak). IMO 4 parallels with the same total capacity would do almost nothing for it. Also remember, V8S is 3rd iteration after V8 and V8F, and those were decent wheels already (plain V8 had some issues on curbs tho) I agree that if they would find a way to put even more power and capacity into V8 package, it would be the best wheel ever.
Thank you for this video. The scene has changed a ton in the last few years and while huge powerful wheels have their purpose, it almost feels like the smaller wheels are seen as irrelevant simply because (a) no one talks about them anymore (b) no new models. I understand that (b) makes it easy to lead to (a) but it doesn't have to be that way as you're showing with this video 😊
Fun review! about the battery brand and model(from ewheels site): 420Wh pack has the LG MJ1 3.5Ah cells, for a combined capacity of 420Wh; while the 340Wh has the Panasonic PF 2.9Ah cells,totalling 340Wh.
Hello, So this will be my first wheel to start with. Thank you for this very precise and detailed video. She answers a lot of my questions. Your channel is really great, see you soon. 😉
I own this model and I love it so much. Helps to make my life easier. especially when i need to walk quite far to get to my car or even throw trash outside. It is really portable. The torque is quite good also.
I learned to ride on a 16S and that one took a beating. Even after all the falls, the shell was still in better shape than my MCM5 which has taken far less abuse. And the small Kingsong wheels have the best trolly handles of any wheel I've used - by far.
Comecei com a 14 D agora tenho uma King Song 16 s mas nunca consegui desbloquear a velocidade da 14 d gostava de saber com que aplicação é possível desbloquear a velocidade da ks 14 d obrigado
Hoping to see more videos like this. Already glad to hear about a potential v8s video since I've been trying to decide between that, the kingsong 16s, or maybe something else for quite a while. Its great to see the hype behind all the new powerhouse wheels coming out, but as someone who want's to get into the hobby after only riding a v5f for a while, I'd love to see more content around some of the intermediate wheels out there. Even if the models have been around a while I would love to see a "How does it perform in 202X" kind of video.
I own the kingsong S 18 also Inmotion V 12 which I’ve had some problems with that one replace the controlledboard then I was updating the firmware and the main board took a dump I just purchased this King song 14 D and the reason is I am an over the road truck driver and it seems like it’s small enough where I can take it with me so when I get to a motel somewhere I’m not stuck eating whatever food they have or don’t have I can cruise down the street get a bite to eat have all fun before I go to sleep can’t wait to get it I just ordered it from eWheels arrives in three days
I have v8f and its borderline perfect! good motor, decent speed, waterproof and really portable. I feel like it's the perfect beginner and back up wheel. The problem with small euc is that once you move from beginner to somewhat intermediate, the speeds are just too low.
This was my first wheel, still have it, but haven't ridden it in a while. It was a great starter wheel, fun to ride, and lightweight. I started outgrowing the range and the speed, was getting so many beeps and tilt backs. I'd still like to use it for last mile and for learning some tricks.
My first wheel was the 16s. I've bought and sold many wheels but I've always kept that one. It's really good for walking the dog because it's so easy to control. 😜
I think there is absolutely a place for the smaller, lightweight wheels. For a very large, but I suspect less vocal group of the riders out there, these wheels are the best solution. I started with a V8f, and have always been very, very happy with it for my particular use case, clearly I’m not the only one as the V8 series is probably the all time best seller. However I do agree that many of these wheels really do need serious upgrades now.. it would be really nice to have more modern replacements for these old favourites before too long. And yes, let’s hope that the EUC makers don’t forget about the market for smaller wheels.
People are missing out by buying shermans and monsters.They are to focussed on speed and distance and havent spent enough time for riding backwards ,tricks and commutes.U want to get skills,then get a small wheel and learn to ride it backwards on one leg!
The ks 14s was my first wheel. It's still an awesome wheel and I still ride it occasionally. The s model is worth the price for the extended range. It is also excellent for off roading.
Awesome look at the lil Kingsong.. and nice to see a sturdy lil wheel that outdoes some of the bigger names for build quality for sure. Thanks for sharing!
Have a 14M wich is the nerfed 14D with only one battery pack and 20km/h limit. It's realy a good wheel to start, and to go small distances. Only one "problem" that I had was with riding in the wet, because if you pass a puddle, water can go to the padles and the grip tape will be less effective and your foot can slip on it, wich it was my first and only fall until now.
Watching your video. Get a 14S. It's a 4 pack wheel (the 14D has only two packs), so it's a lot more solid on bumps and all that for a 88kg man like me (plus a 30L backpack full of groceries). It has 840Wh, just like the 16S, and so its range is great even for me (50+ km). At 25 km/h, the battery doesn't go down very fast. I even bought a 5A charger for it (which the D doesn't support with 2p obviously). Only problem i had with mine was a recent flat tire. When I opened it up, there were broken plastic screw fixtures (those on pillars at the bottom, around the axle screws). Some of those were causing a rattle I also had. Seems to run fine without them. Just a bit surprising that they would be made like that, plastic pillars... And you need to destroy some of the side padding to open up the wheel... Signs of age. But otherwise, a must-have wheel!
I have the V5f and love it! Also love the handle which is nice to use against walls. It does peak at 1600w on the app, which seem quite powerful, but perhaps it cannot be trusted. To me it has good balance between portability and performance. Like others I would like to see newer/updated models in this segment. I would like better lights, kick stand, a bit more speed and an alarm or locking function over app. Also perhaps better safety in form of cut-out warning and speed sound for cruising, to keep stable speed. 🤓 But nice with an updated view on smaller wheels from a pro! 👍💪
I have the V5f too and I use it everyday since 2,5 years and under all weather conditions without any problem. But what I find really annoying is : - the range : no really more than 10 km. (and I'm 75kg only) - and above all the maximum speed which is about 23 km/h. It's too slow and I get bored in long straight lines. I think it's a wheel that shouldn't be bought above 450€.
I do get a lot more range than that, are you sure it is the F model? How many km in total? I easily get twice that when cruising around. Another thing is battery degeneration, and keeping it charged at to 100% while not using is really hard on the batteries for any wheel. I normally keep it around 50-80% and then fill up if going for a long run. After approx 4 hours at full voltage, lipo degeneration starts to be aggressive. Having a smart plug with timer like a nedis can help make this easy. I would actually like also to have max change level setting in the wheel, to protect battery longevity. I feel like my list for whishes to features continues to grow 🤔😁
I’ve got the V5F, something’s wrong with yours if you only get 20 km. Are you sure you have the V5F and not the V5? I’m also fine with the torque and the speed. It’s my wheel for learning new skills, I first learn them on it, then the heavier V10F. It’s very zippy. In my opinion the KingSong 14D is ugly and the V5F a beautiful wheel…but of course, that’s a very subjective matter. I also like the fact that it’s slender, not as bulky as the KingSong 14D, it’s a wheel, not a box between your legs. So there you go, I pretty much disagree with the author of this video on a few things regarding the V5F, but I find it natural that people have differing preferences sometimes. Wrong Way is an expert on EUC:s, I’m just an eternal newbie to EUC:s, but I love the sport and mostly just do it for the fun of it. I have a car for my commute to work. Need to be able to carry stuff that only goes well in the trunk of a car on most of my travels. I did love the video and that somebody really talented rider talks about small wheels and not exclusively of bigger, faster and stronger wheels. That’s okay too, but it gets boring when nearly all the influencers talk about nearly nothing else than the “big is beautiful”.
@@baptistek1917 I can normaly get 30-33 km distance . 65 kg and low presure . After 300 km riding it - start to be slow . 23 km/h top speed :) . but i like it . its light . after ride i carry it on 4 floor . no elevator . so weight to distance and speed ratio is good .
Yes Mr Wrong Way, I think that there is a need for small 14 inch EUC's. We need new people continually joining the community in order for PEV's to grow in acceptance. A larger EUC community increases the credibility of supporting more sustainable modes of travel. Small wheels provide an access point for a lot more new people to test their confidence in EUC transportation technology.
Thanks, this video helped me focus more on the "last mile" solution that I need. It would be nice if manufacturers provided a wheel with great "last mile" performance. For example I work in San Francisco. There is free parking but on super steep hills. So a last mile wheel with enough torque, braking, and battery performance would be great. A trolley handle is also needed when entering the work building or the transit station.
Hey Adam, here in Brazil a GOTWAY MSP got burned/fire itself unexpected (it’s not charging at the moment) it happened early morning Christmas, about 6:30am morning when family was sleeping next door, another wheel (ks16x I think) was parked beside and got burned as well, so they wake up with the blasts and pops and luckily running away from the house in the very last seconds from a tragedy, unfortunately it burn the entire house to the ground, it was caught by surveillance camera, so as ya well known in the unicycle business is there any chance to help this case come up in any way to knowledge of the gotway headquarters throughout your network relationship. Thanks in advanced for your help.
Me watching the open: “Adam, watch out for that scoot…” ooo… 😲 I’m in the same boat for wanting a small wheel. I kept around my Tesla v2 but would love a smaller, slimmer 14 inch wheel like my daughter’s MCM5v2. I even have a backpack to fit wheels of this size to go incognito on a bus or train. If KS made a new edition of their 14 inch wheels that’s durable, affordable, and won’t feel like it’ll fall apart with my heavier weight, I’d be interested. Actually, if KS made a 14 inch wheel with the performance along the lines of the MCM5 but with KS’s updated design style and quality, I’d be all for it.
honestly small wheels are so much more convenient if your not going out on a long ride. if it's a short trip to the cafe, I just bring my 14d. that being said I wish they would come out with some new small wheels. All these huge 40-50mph 80lbs wheels are awesome in terms of pushing the performance envelope, but let's see some small wheels get some innovation love too! how cool would a 14d with suspension be?
I love my InMotion V8, I’ve been looking for years now to upgrade but I take it on public transport, overhead luggage, up stairs, maybe an extra 1-2kg is ok but more makes it unusable, I cannot find anything to upgrade to!
My biggest problem is the weight of the new wheels, 35kg and up, almost 30kg for the v12 (!). I'd love to see a 16-18 inch wheel with up to 25kg like the msx, or a suspension wheel with 16 inch tire.
KS14S with bigger battery was my first wheel too. I still have it because it's so easy to take it anywhere I might need it. I have even ridden up to Hitler's Eagles Nest with 14S and I'm 90kgs. Down the hill was so good regen that battery got almost as full as before the start :)
Great first wheel to learn on! I take it off roading on bike and dirt trails. It handles well on medium grade. Looking for a 2nd wheel now with higher torque for steeper slopes. Does well off road for 2-3 hour trips at a time.
I haven't ridden in a month because it's so cold! I need to get winter gloves with integrated wrist guards and nylonove pedals so I can wear my urban motorcycle boots (too slippery otherwise). Nice (new?) jacket btw. I also bought a waterproof jacket that is half black and half lime green. The black part is reflective though which is great for visibility!
Im using side LEDs on my KS-16S to improve my own visibility in winter traffic from the side view. Rolling red when moving, green lit when staying. Works well, but remember its low, could be covered by short distance of car view or by other parked cars.
My first is V10F. I have it since 2019, and there is still nothing better for me to upgrade on. I combine it with subway, so large modern wheels are not an option for me at all. My ideal next would have been like mini V12. Safe, quality, water resistant, comfortable, and fits in locker at the gym.
we have this wheel for my son and it is great in lot's of ways. it can even handle heavy riders as long as your not too crazy with it. I'm 240 pounds and it works well for me in most situations, I have had it overpower in a couple of situations such as landing a small jump, or trying to do a sprint race with a larger wheel. my biggest complaint is the low pedals but I suppose this wheel is not meant to be taken around corners at high speed.
Hi Adam. Most beginners start with a small wheel. The main argument is the price, I think, before diving in the unicycle unknown domain. You have what you pay for, small range and slow speed. But you have either Inmotion quality and Kingsong trolley, even with a low price, and that's good. EUCs second hand market is fed by such wheels, and that's good as well. It will permit many people to join the community. Ps : No mirror glasses and french comments this time ?
I bought an Inmotion V5F this year as a learning wheel here in sweden, and i like it, but the battery life is too short for me and my 126kg. No problems riding it at all, until the minus degrees hit here, came home from a ride and suffered my first ever cutoff when i was going to quickly cross a street. It dove and deposited me in the middle of the road, luckily i had waited until the cars passed... Sadly i didn't have EUC World still connected, so i didn't have any logs to look at, but my best guess is the cold + less than 50% battery left made it cut off.
I have 4 wheels. 3 of them are 1500 Wh plus wheels but I still love my V8. So light. Great to throw in my Truck if I know I need to park a ways away to save on parking. The V8 is also my most trusted wheel to ride in the rain. Never had any issues with riding in the rain....even heavy rain on my V8. Tire change is also a breeze. Maybe 30 minutes max to change a tire. Why I bought the V11....lol ...opposite with regards to wet weather and tire change... still own it but will not even ride it on damp roads after going through three motors and 3 mother boards...lol. Dry weather off road wheel now. Buy a light wheel... very useful.
Looking for a boat (I hesitate to say yacht) to grocery store wheel. I have seen bicycles tied to the stays, Onewheels and scooters used. I wonder if a small EUC would be a better fit. Low weight is needed as it may need to be transported to shore in a dinghy. One feature I would like to see is a top mountable basket or rack to allow moving groceries in dolly (or is that trolley?) mode. Hill climbing is important, although, as long as I can walk it up the hill, it would still be ok.
Did you try riding a big wheel like that? The difference will be staggering to you. Also don't hold your breath for S20, they take forever to arrive, and do yourself a favor don't buy first batch of something so "new"
I have not trided riding a larger wheel yet as my 14D was my first wheel. I am up for the learning curve for sure. Thanks for the comment on the Fist edition of a wheel. I have been wavering on purchasing a first edition. I would hate to purchase a wheel and have to return it for any tweaking. Thanks for your input.
Awesome Video . Is Kingsong 14m still worth it this 2022? I have another question im thinking also of buying mcm5 v2? But I am concerned with the videos I watched that begode gotway is more prone to fire? I want to buy my 1st ever euc soon , I almost bought the mcm5 v2 but I am having 2nd thoughs because of the news ive ehard that it is more prone to burn?
Only ever having a exn i really have been considering getting a smaller wheel as having only a heavy one makes riding technical for skill improvement more demanding, also way more convenient with just armored jeans an lazyroling inconspicuous protection an small size wheel for running errands and shopping
Great review definitely a favortie euc of mine. I will say its very hard to get a tire on the 14d but there are some tricks. Also after changing the tire and inner tube many times I can safely say the main problem with the 14d is the innertube valve bending out and rubbing in the wheel body. This also happens on my ks16s and the only solution I've found for this problem is gorilla taping the valve down 🤦♀️ love my kingsong wheels but this has been a main downfall. I've even popped an innertubes when the tape gives out and the valve rubs at fast speeds.
My first wheel was 840 wh 14s I didn't like the pads width so i replaced them with the 14d pads it has just over 10 000 kms with minimal problems battery packs have been replaced 1000 kms ago with 2 tire replacements its been dropped countless times its rolled down hills and stairs been rode in very heavy rain and snow its been so reliable outer shell screws mounts have broke thats probably whats loose in your 14d but i love the 14s its light with around 60kms of range upgraded 3.5 amp charger charges it in 2.5 hrs
I had a chance to switch to KS-14D from 16X for a few months and I'm still missing it. It's a cute nimble wheel. The only complain is its range, but it is a fare trade off for its small size.
I've been thinking of an euc for a while now and saw this one when doing research and the first thing I did was look to see if you have done a review. I like many trust your reviews. When it comes time that I can buy one I will go for it. Just one thing. What do you think of this as a first time euc rider to get
There is also a 340wh version with max speed of 25 km/h. Edit We need small wheels. The 14D 420w looks like a great wheel for in the train or bus. Great for that last 5 miles. Taken my V5f anywhere was easy. My Sherman in the supermarket 😣. My Sherman on the train 😫. I ordered the Mten3 through Lars. But Mten3 is more for tricks and to train my posture and balance.
If I may ask, how tall are you and what do you weigh? This feels like a very honest review. I've watched several of your videos on bigger/faster wheels so for you to give this kind of endorsement to a smaller wheel says a lot to me (a newbie to the EUC).
I had V8F. It has 100 Wh bigger battery. I did easilly 32km on a single charge, 14% left and still it rides fine and fast. 35km/h is not a problem at all. 84V is awesome. Motor axle broke after 560km so can you test if V8S has stronger axle? :-D V8S seems great 720Wh is awesome for such a light wheel. It is light but dimensions are very similar to my Begode T3 so I do not miss my V8F. Only during heavy rainy days :-).
I'm waiting for MyEWheel to restock the MCM5 V2 to buy it as a small shopping/city commuting wheel that I can use with just a bike helmet and normal clothes. I've already got the Sherman and the V12 for longer distances and hardcore fully geared up riding, but I miss having a really small wheel to run errands and ride quickly without gearing up completely. I wish there was a better choice than the MCM5 from Inmotion or Kingsong, to get a better quality wheel, sadly the V5f and 14D/S are a bit too old/low powered for my taste, even for small wheels.
I would like like you say an upgrade to the Ninebot E/14D form factor. Maybe an idea for the smaller wheels is to make them so that you can remove the batteries like e-bikes so you can take them on planes. I would love to take my wheel on holiday when I go to SA in Feb but its just going to cost too much to get it shipped out there. If I had a small 14/16 inch wheel with batteries that can be removed it would be spot on.
Looking at the 14d for my first wheel. I'm definitely more heavy than you 😅 do you think it's a problem considering I have a couple steep hills on my daily commute?
My first wheel ! But being over a 100 kg, it's not powerful enough for me. But for most women or average men, I think it's perfect ! For small or tiny people, I'm sure this wheel is tons of fun !
Let me precise something : It's all the power a 100kg guy need for commuting. It's still accelerating fine and climbing steep hill is still not a problem. But if it's for fast acceleration, then you need a bigger wheel if you're a heavy person.
I ended up with an mten3 first. Its not too bad. Super squirrly. Almost got 14d but just decided to go all in and get the 16xs cus the X was out of stock. learning on the 16xs helped it actually click for me and then I could ride the mten3. Wierd but true!
I love my MCM5 V2 for its portability and performance, but that wheel will trick you into believing it can go faster than it really can. I swear, I accelerate from a crawl to 25 mph (40 kph) in about 3 seconds, so overpowering it is a real possibility because you could cut out before even registering those 5 beeps. But for careful riders, there is nothing better than the MCM5 V2 in terms of the 3 P's: power, portability, price. I cruise at 22 mph all I want with no fear and knowing there is still headroom if I need it. I hate the flimsy trolley, AWFUL speaker quality, and pedal dipping though, so not all is perfect. Shame about Gotway safety issues though. I built an entirely separate building outside for my EV's since all this fire stuff has become apparent. I also have a V11, 2 V5F's (my kids), and a Ninebot (wife).
Would this 14 inch wheel be OK for riding in areas with many cobble stone streets? My vibration tolerance is pretty high, just wondering if it would feel like your brain is turning into scrambled eggs, or not.
i just got a 14d. I just notice that when doing sharp turns with the EUC tilting sideways, the pedals tiltback. But when i do the same turns on my old 14m, no such tiltback. Can you please tell me if there is a setting for that?
Hi Adam, I would have a little technical curiosity, I have a Kingsong 14S and in its box I have two spare 30A fuses but often from euc world I see that I also reach 40A without cut-out, but how many amps of maximum?
I have this wheel too. I share it with my partner - we've been learning to ride on it. Can anyone here answer whether this wheel has the ride modes? I can't feel any difference between them, so I'm wondering if it has modes?
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Congrats !!!
Yeah! Small EUCs are great. I wish there was some more manufacturer and community attention on them.
I love the 14D! Bought it instead of the Mten3 that was inside eWheels's container that went up on flames last January (no more Gotways for me since then).
Gave it to my daughter who uses it to go to school, only wheel that will fit in her locker.
I've replaced it with the 14S which I love even more. It's a bit less nimble, but still it's my goto wheel for commuting and shopping.
The slow speed is actually something I like about it. I set an alarm at 25, and that slower pace lets me use it with minimal gear, just a bike helmet and wrist guards. So handy and practical. It's even pretty water resistant, which is another reason I use it so much.
I love that you've done a review of the 14D! That's the one I also recommend to anyone who wants to learn. Even when they graduate to a more powerful wheel for sporty rides, it's still an excellent 2nd wheel to have. Cheapest way to get into the hobby!
My kids love the 14d, me too tbh. It had more miles on it after a month than my S18 got in a year. It's just so damn convenient. My mten3 feels crap compared, less features so so sketchy to ride and double the cost.
14D was my first wheel and I still keep it because it’s a great little wheel. The only reason I upgraded was to gain longer range comfort, but at the expense of manoeuvrability. I also have an Mten3 for shopping amongst pedestrians and the S18 for longer trips. I actually love the 14D for off-road as it’s so easy to control at low speeds and has great torque (although I’m not a heavy rider). Thanks for reviewing this wheel as I’m sure new riders will find it useful to have a review that’s not just for high performance riders.
My first wheel was a KS14S with 840wh. It could do 60km on one charge with its 800w motor, and I thought that 30 km/h was more enough. I'm now riding an 18incher from Gotway that makes 50km/h a breeze, but I really did like the kingsong. The only thing that was awful was that 30 km/h top speed. I reckon that if it had gone to 35 I would have upgraded later. It still is a great commuter wheel.
I think the new InMotion V8S is an awesome solution for portability and range. Small wheels definitely have a big market and I suspect once we get over the "race to the top", manufactures will begin looking at these again. Great video :)
If only it had 4 parallels instead of 2, I would buy it.
@@evgeniy19 if S18 can make do with 3 ||, then V8S can do with 2 || even better. 2 is enough for redundancy, and this wheel is rated quite low for power (2000W peak). IMO 4 parallels with the same total capacity would do almost nothing for it. Also remember, V8S is 3rd iteration after V8 and V8F, and those were decent wheels already (plain V8 had some issues on curbs tho)
I agree that if they would find a way to put even more power and capacity into V8 package, it would be the best wheel ever.
Thank you for this video. The scene has changed a ton in the last few years and while huge powerful wheels have their purpose, it almost feels like the smaller wheels are seen as irrelevant simply because (a) no one talks about them anymore (b) no new models.
I understand that (b) makes it easy to lead to (a) but it doesn't have to be that way as you're showing with this video 😊
Fun review! about the battery brand and model(from ewheels site): 420Wh pack has the LG MJ1 3.5Ah cells, for a combined capacity of 420Wh; while the 340Wh has the Panasonic PF 2.9Ah cells,totalling 340Wh.
Hello,
So this will be my first wheel to start with. Thank you for this very precise and detailed video. She answers a lot of my questions. Your channel is really great, see you soon. 😉
I own this model and I love it so much. Helps to make my life easier. especially when i need to walk quite far to get to my car or even throw trash outside. It is really portable. The torque is quite good also.
I learned to ride on a 16S and that one took a beating. Even after all the falls, the shell was still in better shape than my MCM5 which has taken far less abuse. And the small Kingsong wheels have the best trolly handles of any wheel I've used - by far.
Comecei com a 14 D agora tenho uma King Song 16 s mas nunca consegui desbloquear a velocidade da 14 d gostava de saber com que aplicação é possível desbloquear a velocidade da ks 14 d obrigado
@@fernandovilares241 Aposto que Adam ou alguém nos comentários saberia como fazer isso - ou talvez o fornecedor de quem você comprou a roda.
Hoping to see more videos like this. Already glad to hear about a potential v8s video since I've been trying to decide between that, the kingsong 16s, or maybe something else for quite a while. Its great to see the hype behind all the new powerhouse wheels coming out, but as someone who want's to get into the hobby after only riding a v5f for a while, I'd love to see more content around some of the intermediate wheels out there. Even if the models have been around a while I would love to see a "How does it perform in 202X" kind of video.
I own the kingsong S 18 also Inmotion V 12 which I’ve had some problems with that one replace the controlledboard then I was updating the firmware and the main board took a dump I just purchased this King song 14 D and the reason is I am an over the road truck driver and it seems like it’s small enough where I can take it with me so when I get to a motel somewhere I’m not stuck eating whatever food they have or don’t have I can cruise down the street get a bite to eat have all fun before I go to sleep can’t wait to get it I just ordered it from eWheels arrives in three days
My first wheel! 14D is so convenient and portable, amazing power for it’s size.
I have v8f and its borderline perfect! good motor, decent speed, waterproof and really portable. I feel like it's the perfect beginner and back up wheel. The problem with small euc is that once you move from beginner to somewhat intermediate, the speeds are just too low.
You said it! My MCM5 is still one of my favorite wheels to this day! Great video 🤟
This was my first wheel, still have it, but haven't ridden it in a while. It was a great starter wheel, fun to ride, and lightweight. I started outgrowing the range and the speed, was getting so many beeps and tilt backs. I'd still like to use it for last mile and for learning some tricks.
My thoughts exactly..
My first wheel was the 16s. I've bought and sold many wheels but I've always kept that one. It's really good for walking the dog because it's so easy to control. 😜
I think there is absolutely a place for the smaller, lightweight wheels. For a very large, but I suspect less vocal group of the riders out there, these wheels are the best solution. I started with a V8f, and have always been very, very happy with it for my particular use case, clearly I’m not the only one as the V8 series is probably the all time best seller. However I do agree that many of these wheels really do need serious upgrades now.. it would be really nice to have more modern replacements for these old favourites before too long. And yes, let’s hope that the EUC makers don’t forget about the market for smaller wheels.
People are missing out by buying shermans and monsters.They are to focussed on speed and distance and havent spent enough time for riding backwards ,tricks and commutes.U want to get skills,then get a small wheel and learn to ride it backwards on one leg!
The ks 14s was my first wheel. It's still an awesome wheel and I still ride it occasionally. The s model is worth the price for the extended range. It is also excellent for off roading.
Gotta love the extended range. 🙂✌🏽
Thank you for reviewing smaller wheels. I am still on my KS16s and loving it!
16S is such a nice wheel to ride
@@aethernaught Mine has the larger batteries as well.
Awesome look at the lil Kingsong.. and nice to see a sturdy lil wheel that outdoes some of the bigger names for build quality for sure. Thanks for sharing!
V8(F\S) is the best of small wheels. It is a bit bigger than 14D but still "small" and very convenient and cool
Have a 14M wich is the nerfed 14D with only one battery pack and 20km/h limit. It's realy a good wheel to start, and to go small distances. Only one "problem" that I had was with riding in the wet, because if you pass a puddle, water can go to the padles and the grip tape will be less effective and your foot can slip on it, wich it was my first and only fall until now.
My 2nd wheel. First wheel bought two weeks ago was nikola ar+. Getting this one for last mile and portability
It’s so practical, it’s what i would want. Range is a concern. Love the style, no disapproving stares bringing it indoors
Watching your video.
Get a 14S. It's a 4 pack wheel (the 14D has only two packs), so it's a lot more solid on bumps and all that for a 88kg man like me (plus a 30L backpack full of groceries).
It has 840Wh, just like the 16S, and so its range is great even for me (50+ km). At 25 km/h, the battery doesn't go down very fast.
I even bought a 5A charger for it (which the D doesn't support with 2p obviously).
Only problem i had with mine was a recent flat tire. When I opened it up, there were broken plastic screw fixtures (those on pillars at the bottom, around the axle screws). Some of those were causing a rattle I also had. Seems to run fine without them. Just a bit surprising that they would be made like that, plastic pillars...
And you need to destroy some of the side padding to open up the wheel... Signs of age.
But otherwise, a must-have wheel!
I have the V5f and love it! Also love the handle which is nice to use against walls. It does peak at 1600w on the app, which seem quite powerful, but perhaps it cannot be trusted. To me it has good balance between portability and performance. Like others I would like to see newer/updated models in this segment. I would like better lights, kick stand, a bit more speed and an alarm or locking function over app. Also perhaps better safety in form of cut-out warning and speed sound for cruising, to keep stable speed. 🤓 But nice with an updated view on smaller wheels from a pro! 👍💪
I have the V5f too and I use it everyday since 2,5 years and under all weather conditions without any problem.
But what I find really annoying is :
- the range : no really more than 10 km. (and I'm 75kg only)
- and above all the maximum speed which is about 23 km/h. It's too slow and I get bored in long straight lines.
I think it's a wheel that shouldn't be bought above 450€.
I do get a lot more range than that, are you sure it is the F model? How many km in total? I easily get twice that when cruising around. Another thing is battery degeneration, and keeping it charged at to 100% while not using is really hard on the batteries for any wheel. I normally keep it around 50-80% and then fill up if going for a long run. After approx 4 hours at full voltage, lipo degeneration starts to be aggressive. Having a smart plug with timer like a nedis can help make this easy. I would actually like also to have max change level setting in the wheel, to protect battery longevity. I feel like my list for whishes to features continues to grow 🤔😁
I’ve got the V5F, something’s wrong with yours if you only get 20 km. Are you sure you have the V5F and not the V5? I’m also fine with the torque and the speed. It’s my wheel for learning new skills, I first learn them on it, then the heavier V10F. It’s very zippy. In my opinion the KingSong 14D is ugly and the V5F a beautiful wheel…but of course, that’s a very subjective matter. I also like the fact that it’s slender, not as bulky as the KingSong 14D, it’s a wheel, not a box between your legs. So there you go, I pretty much disagree with the author of this video on a few things regarding the V5F, but I find it natural that people have differing preferences sometimes. Wrong Way is an expert on EUC:s, I’m just an eternal newbie to EUC:s, but I love the sport and mostly just do it for the fun of it. I have a car for my commute to work. Need to be able to carry stuff that only goes well in the trunk of a car on most of my travels. I did love the video and that somebody really talented rider talks about small wheels and not exclusively of bigger, faster and stronger wheels. That’s okay too, but it gets boring when nearly all the influencers talk about nearly nothing else than the “big is beautiful”.
@@baptistek1917 I can normaly get 30-33 km distance . 65 kg and low presure . After 300 km riding it - start to be slow . 23 km/h top speed :) . but i like it . its light . after ride i carry it on 4 floor . no elevator . so weight to distance and speed ratio is good .
Yes Mr Wrong Way, I think that there is a need for small 14 inch EUC's. We need new people continually joining the community in order for PEV's to grow in acceptance. A larger EUC community increases the credibility of supporting more sustainable modes of travel. Small wheels provide an access point for a lot more new people to test their confidence in EUC transportation technology.
Thanks, this video helped me focus more on the "last mile" solution that I need. It would be nice if manufacturers provided a wheel with great "last mile" performance. For example I work in San Francisco. There is free parking but on super steep hills. So a last mile wheel with enough torque, braking, and battery performance would be great. A trolley handle is also needed when entering the work building or the transit station.
Small wheels are definitely still relevant! Considering the V8S because it is relatively discreet when bringing into a store or cafe.
Hey Adam, here in Brazil a GOTWAY MSP got burned/fire itself unexpected (it’s not charging at the moment) it happened early morning Christmas, about 6:30am morning when family was sleeping next door, another wheel (ks16x I think) was parked beside and got burned as well, so they wake up with the blasts and pops and luckily running away from the house in the very last seconds from a tragedy, unfortunately it burn the entire house to the ground, it was caught by surveillance camera, so as ya well known in the unicycle business is there any chance to help this case come up in any way to knowledge of the gotway headquarters throughout your network relationship. Thanks in advanced for your help.
Me watching the open: “Adam, watch out for that scoot…” ooo… 😲
I’m in the same boat for wanting a small wheel. I kept around my Tesla v2 but would love a smaller, slimmer 14 inch wheel like my daughter’s MCM5v2. I even have a backpack to fit wheels of this size to go incognito on a bus or train.
If KS made a new edition of their 14 inch wheels that’s durable, affordable, and won’t feel like it’ll fall apart with my heavier weight, I’d be interested. Actually, if KS made a 14 inch wheel with the performance along the lines of the MCM5 but with KS’s updated design style and quality, I’d be all for it.
honestly small wheels are so much more convenient if your not going out on a long ride. if it's a short trip to the cafe, I just bring my 14d. that being said I wish they would come out with some new small wheels. All these huge 40-50mph 80lbs wheels are awesome in terms of pushing the performance envelope, but let's see some small wheels get some innovation love too! how cool would a 14d with suspension be?
I really hope this gets enough attention and we finally get new small wheels, they are too useful to be neglected like this
I love my InMotion V8, I’ve been looking for years now to upgrade but I take it on public transport, overhead luggage, up stairs, maybe an extra 1-2kg is ok but more makes it unusable, I cannot find anything to upgrade to!
this is the wheel I'm hoping to get for christmas! it will be my first wheel do you think it's a good choice?
My biggest problem is the weight of the new wheels, 35kg and up, almost 30kg for the v12 (!). I'd love to see a 16-18 inch wheel with up to 25kg like the msx, or a suspension wheel with 16 inch tire.
KS14S with bigger battery was my first wheel too. I still have it because it's so easy to take it anywhere I might need it. I have even ridden up to Hitler's Eagles Nest with 14S and I'm 90kgs. Down the hill was so good regen that battery got almost as full as before the start :)
Also it should be noted that when the 14D came out in 2017, the 21700 was not widely available. I'm not sure if any EUC used it at the time.
I love how there are perfect sidewalks all around.... rides through the leaves and grass anyways.... exactly what I would do. 😆
Saw one in the wild in a town that thinks it's a city. Inverness. Great video.
Great first wheel to learn on! I take it off roading on bike and dirt trails. It handles well on medium grade. Looking for a 2nd wheel now with higher torque for steeper slopes. Does well off road for 2-3 hour trips at a time.
I haven't ridden in a month because it's so cold! I need to get winter gloves with integrated wrist guards and nylonove pedals so I can wear my urban motorcycle boots (too slippery otherwise). Nice (new?) jacket btw. I also bought a waterproof jacket that is half black and half lime green. The black part is reflective though which is great for visibility!
Im using side LEDs on my KS-16S to improve my own visibility in winter traffic from the side view. Rolling red when moving, green lit when staying. Works well, but remember its low, could be covered by short distance of car view or by other parked cars.
I appreciate your detailed timestamps.
I am living with only small wheels. They fit in locker at school. Per last few months MCM5 became my favorite 14" wheel. :D
My first is V10F. I have it since 2019, and there is still nothing better for me to upgrade on. I combine it with subway, so large modern wheels are not an option for me at all. My ideal next would have been like mini V12. Safe, quality, water resistant, comfortable, and fits in locker at the gym.
we have this wheel for my son and it is great in lot's of ways. it can even handle heavy riders as long as your not too crazy with it. I'm 240 pounds and it works well for me in most situations, I have had it overpower in a couple of situations such as landing a small jump, or trying to do a sprint race with a larger wheel. my biggest complaint is the low pedals but I suppose this wheel is not meant to be taken around corners at high speed.
I just purchased this as my "learning" wheel. I like it, wish I could ride it. :) I'm a little beat up and bruised from trying but will keep at it.
Hi Adam.
Most beginners start with a small wheel. The main argument is the price, I think, before diving in the unicycle unknown domain.
You have what you pay for, small range and slow speed. But you have either Inmotion quality and Kingsong trolley, even with a low price, and that's good.
EUCs second hand market is fed by such wheels, and that's good as well. It will permit many people to join the community.
Ps : No mirror glasses and french comments this time ?
I bought an Inmotion V5F this year as a learning wheel here in sweden, and i like it, but the battery life is too short for me and my 126kg.
No problems riding it at all, until the minus degrees hit here, came home from a ride and suffered my first ever cutoff when i was going to quickly cross a street.
It dove and deposited me in the middle of the road, luckily i had waited until the cars passed...
Sadly i didn't have EUC World still connected, so i didn't have any logs to look at, but my best guess is the cold + less than 50% battery left made it cut off.
V8S is a perfect small last mile commuter wheel.
I have 4 wheels. 3 of them are 1500 Wh plus wheels but I still love my V8. So light. Great to throw in my Truck if I know I need to park a ways away to save on parking. The V8 is also my most trusted wheel to ride in the rain. Never had any issues with riding in the rain....even heavy rain on my V8. Tire change is also a breeze. Maybe 30 minutes max to change a tire. Why I bought the V11....lol ...opposite with regards to wet weather and tire change... still own it but will not even ride it on damp roads after going through three motors and 3 mother boards...lol. Dry weather off road wheel now. Buy a light wheel... very useful.
Got the 14S with 840mah battery, great little wheel for leisure rides, nimble as all hell. Ride the beeps due to 18mph top speed though.
Looking for a boat (I hesitate to say yacht) to grocery store wheel. I have seen bicycles tied to the stays, Onewheels and scooters used. I wonder if a small EUC would be a better fit. Low weight is needed as it may need to be transported to shore in a dinghy. One feature I would like to see is a top mountable basket or rack to allow moving groceries in dolly (or is that trolley?) mode. Hill climbing is important, although, as long as I can walk it up the hill, it would still be ok.
My First wheel is a KS14d. Love it. I'm saving up for the S20.
Watch all your videos. Thanks for the awesome content.
Did you try riding a big wheel like that? The difference will be staggering to you.
Also don't hold your breath for S20, they take forever to arrive, and do yourself a favor don't buy first batch of something so "new"
I have not trided riding a larger wheel yet as my 14D was my first wheel. I am up for the learning curve for sure.
Thanks for the comment on the Fist edition of a wheel. I have been wavering on purchasing a first edition. I would hate to purchase a wheel and have to return it for any tweaking.
Thanks for your input.
Awesome Video . Is Kingsong 14m still worth it this 2022? I have another question im thinking also of buying mcm5 v2? But I am concerned with the videos I watched that begode gotway is more prone to fire? I want to buy my 1st ever euc soon , I almost bought the mcm5 v2 but I am having 2nd thoughs because of the news ive ehard that it is more prone to burn?
Only ever having a exn i really have been considering getting a smaller wheel as having only a heavy one makes riding technical for skill improvement more demanding, also way more convenient with just armored jeans an lazyroling inconspicuous protection an small size wheel for running errands and shopping
i really hope we get a S14 or maybe even a S12 in the future. having a small commuter wheel with suspension (even if just a bit) would be amazing
Agree. New small wheels. Nice video Adam.
Great review definitely a favortie euc of mine. I will say its very hard to get a tire on the 14d but there are some tricks. Also after changing the tire and inner tube many times I can safely say the main problem with the 14d is the innertube valve bending out and rubbing in the wheel body. This also happens on my ks16s and the only solution I've found for this problem is gorilla taping the valve down 🤦♀️ love my kingsong wheels but this has been a main downfall. I've even popped an innertubes when the tape gives out and the valve rubs at fast speeds.
Same thing my E+, still love my Ninebot E+ and 16", no NyloNove foot plates though :-) and its a classic....
My first wheel was 840 wh 14s I didn't like the pads width so i replaced them with the 14d pads it has just over 10 000 kms with minimal problems battery packs have been replaced 1000 kms ago with 2 tire replacements its been dropped countless times its rolled down hills and stairs been rode in very heavy rain and snow its been so reliable outer shell screws mounts have broke thats probably whats loose in your 14d but i love the 14s its light with around 60kms of range upgraded 3.5 amp charger charges it in 2.5 hrs
how big of a difference battery replacement did?
@@Ubeogesh20% ish i had degraded cells because of riding at the max all the time
I like to turn on my ks16x and ask loudly “I WONDER IF THE BLUETOOTH IS CONNECTED!”
😂😂😂
I had a chance to switch to KS-14D from 16X for a few months and I'm still missing it. It's a cute nimble wheel. The only complain is its range, but it is a fare trade off for its small size.
I plan on picking up a smaller wheel for teaching friends how to ride and I think it would be easier to work on my technical skills like riding, ect.
I've been thinking of an euc for a while now and saw this one when doing research and the first thing I did was look to see if you have done a review. I like many trust your reviews. When it comes time that I can buy one I will go for it. Just one thing. What do you think of this as a first time euc rider to get
There is also a 340wh version with max speed of 25 km/h.
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We need small wheels. The 14D 420w looks like a great wheel for in the train or bus. Great for that last 5 miles.
Taken my V5f anywhere was easy. My Sherman in the supermarket 😣. My Sherman on the train 😫.
I ordered the Mten3 through Lars. But Mten3 is more for tricks and to train my posture and balance.
I've 4 KS 14C, with new mother board, capable to climbing mountains !
I friggin love my mten3 - its more than a toy its pure fun.....
If I may ask, how tall are you and what do you weigh?
This feels like a very honest review. I've watched several of your videos on bigger/faster wheels so for you to give this kind of endorsement to a smaller wheel says a lot to me (a newbie to the EUC).
14D is the best euc now.
I had V8F. It has 100 Wh bigger battery. I did easilly 32km on a single charge, 14% left and still it rides fine and fast. 35km/h is not a problem at all. 84V is awesome. Motor axle broke after 560km so can you test if V8S has stronger axle? :-D V8S seems great 720Wh is awesome for such a light wheel. It is light but dimensions are very similar to my Begode T3 so I do not miss my V8F. Only during heavy rainy days :-).
Thank you for the review! Also looking for a small run around wheel. Does it also fit in the tesla frunk?
I'm waiting for MyEWheel to restock the MCM5 V2 to buy it as a small shopping/city commuting wheel that I can use with just a bike helmet and normal clothes. I've already got the Sherman and the V12 for longer distances and hardcore fully geared up riding, but I miss having a really small wheel to run errands and ride quickly without gearing up completely. I wish there was a better choice than the MCM5 from Inmotion or Kingsong, to get a better quality wheel, sadly the V5f and 14D/S are a bit too old/low powered for my taste, even for small wheels.
I would like to see a small wheel that's longer range and lighter if possible.
I would like like you say an upgrade to the Ninebot E/14D form factor. Maybe an idea for the smaller wheels is to make them so that you can remove the batteries like e-bikes so you can take them on planes. I would love to take my wheel on holiday when I go to SA in Feb but its just going to cost too much to get it shipped out there. If I had a small 14/16 inch wheel with batteries that can be removed it would be spot on.
Just ordered my 14m. Not sure what exactly the difference is between the D and the M, but it looks exactly the same, just black instead of white.
Looking at the 14d for my first wheel. I'm definitely more heavy than you 😅 do you think it's a problem considering I have a couple steep hills on my daily commute?
3:48 that color matching outfits
17:50 nie do końca zrozumiałem co miałeś na myśli porównując z V5F które jest „węższe”? Ze łatwiej trzymać 14D w nogach, w sensie lepsza stabilność?
yeah I really like small wheels for second wheel!
Great value machine 👌. Does a lot for the price. Super convenient.
My first wheel !
But being over a 100 kg, it's not powerful enough for me.
But for most women or average men, I think it's perfect !
For small or tiny people, I'm sure this wheel is tons of fun !
Let me precise something : It's all the power a 100kg guy need for commuting. It's still accelerating fine and climbing steep hill is still not a problem.
But if it's for fast acceleration, then you need a bigger wheel if you're a heavy person.
What are the laws in the US on EUC? Are we legally supposed to ride on street or sidewalks or both?
I ended up with an mten3 first. Its not too bad. Super squirrly. Almost got 14d but just decided to go all in and get the 16xs cus the X was out of stock. learning on the 16xs helped it actually click for me and then I could ride the mten3. Wierd but true!
I personally prefer the mcm5 (v2) . Still have a S2 and ninebot E+ for the kids. Does the job.
J'espère qu'il y en aura d'autres dans le futur!😁
I love my MCM5 V2 for its portability and performance, but that wheel will trick you into believing it can go faster than it really can. I swear, I accelerate from a crawl to 25 mph (40 kph) in about 3 seconds, so overpowering it is a real possibility because you could cut out before even registering those 5 beeps.
But for careful riders, there is nothing better than the MCM5 V2 in terms of the 3 P's: power, portability, price. I cruise at 22 mph all I want with no fear and knowing there is still headroom if I need it. I hate the flimsy trolley, AWFUL speaker quality, and pedal dipping though, so not all is perfect.
Shame about Gotway safety issues though. I built an entirely separate building outside for my EV's since all this fire stuff has become apparent. I also have a V11, 2 V5F's (my kids), and a Ninebot (wife).
Would this 14 inch wheel be OK for riding in areas with many cobble stone streets? My vibration tolerance is pretty high, just wondering if it would feel like your brain is turning into scrambled eggs, or not.
i just got a 14d. I just notice that when doing sharp turns with the EUC tilting sideways, the pedals tiltback. But when i do the same turns on my old 14m, no such tiltback. Can you please tell me if there is a setting for that?
I’m an interested in purchasing a inmotion v10f what would say about that wheel now and love the videos
For small distance, in my eyes the V8F modded 777wh is king. (I guess V8S close second...)
I think the 14D came out in 2015, is there a modern 2023 equivalent?
Yep its a while. It’s still the same model with upgraded components. The newest similar product from king song is the 16S sturdy bull :)
Hi Adam, I would have a little technical curiosity, I have a Kingsong 14S and in its box I have two spare 30A fuses but often from euc world I see that I also reach 40A without cut-out, but how many amps of maximum?
Hi Adam, how many kilometers could be the useful life of an electric wheel (with battery change included) 15,000? 20,000?
We have stock for the mighty 14D to give away 😀
I have this wheel too. I share it with my partner - we've been learning to ride on it. Can anyone here answer whether this wheel has the ride modes? I can't feel any difference between them, so I'm wondering if it has modes?
Just for some clarity.
What is your height and weight if I may ask?
Just to judge based on the size and fit of the wheel.