So I did this today and my filter was completely disintegrated!! Just the medal frame… I purchased it in march with 44,000 miles.. I love riding it! Thank you for the content!! I also changed out the final drive oil which looked like the goo that comes out of something on Dr.Pimple Popper… next I’m going to do the transmission oil…
For those without a compressor, I found the easiest and arguably most efficient way to clean the filter. Use your vacuum with the brush attachment and just gently brush over the foam as the vacuum is on. You clean it very well, very fast, no drying time needed, and everyone has a vacuum already.
I used some green stuff cleaner and washed the filter, then let it dry and replace. After washing it looked like new, good to go. Thanks for the great vids on scooters!
i’m just gonna stick with my Honda Silverwing instead lol a transmission service is only about $400 parts and labor just under an hour and the belt looked good despite having 25k miles on it
Separating the upper and lower halves of the CVT filter cover makes getting out the top right cover bolt much easier. A flexible socket extension is also necessary.
Actually you can get to the top right bolt by lifting up on the top plate cover. It does move out the way just enough to access the bolt with a straight extension.
@@geneb5482 it's called CVT stopped Bolt. There is a project issue which makes this bolt snap due metal fatigue, allowing your whole CVT go out of alignment. But if you change it on time, before it brake, you will be good! I have a friend that had to open the whole system to make repair after a snapping bolt... But to change just the bolt itself, it's very easy and you can reach out without disassembly anything.... Search on google for Burgman 650 CVT stoped bolt. 2012 or below are the problematic ones. Sorry my rusty English!
Hello Mr Mayhem i'm new to the bike world just purchased a 06 Suzuki Burgman 650 been following all your videos outstanding anyway can you please make a video all changing a thrmostat and what to do when the fill bolt on the trans won't tighten thank you so much sir you help so many people like me make sure you include Mr. West in the video lol
those filter do rot, if my bike is older than 5 or 6 years old bite the bullet and get a new one, living in fl. i have found mud dobber mud nest in a bike that have set for a while, and your right I have replaced a belt before on 2005 with 60k a lot of work, enjoy your videos, keep it up
Also 1. Keep Water away from the exhaust of the cvt inbetween your legs. 2. Check the Stop Bolt of the cvt regulary for damages 3. if it happens it happens.
Love you’re vids. I have a 2012 also, with only 10,000k. Do the 2012 models require stop bolt replacement, or did they use stronger bolts for our model?
Very good! I always replace the Primary Pully Bolt each time I change the oil. Not expensive but just a Peace of mind thing. I will have to inspect that filter on my next vacation next month.
@@yourflavr Suzuki has upgraded the bolt twice. It is now 21748-10G20. Not sure what they did. Maybe hardened it? Anyhow, I think you should at least inspect it for wear, even if you don't need to replace it.
I'm struggling to find out why my 650 burg won't move . Bought as a project running engine but non driving rear wheel. Have checked codes got C51 on dash . Have removed the CVT electric motor bench tested fine , have disconnect the primary position switch no drive still. Have disconnected the centre stand switch -still no movement of wheel . Can I physically inspect the drive belt in any way without dissasembly of the CVT ? Someone suggested it could be ecu related is there anyway I can test it ? Thanks for your help
Hi everyone, hope y'all doing? I'm buying one these scooter tomorrow, with 2117 milea on it, what should i check before paying for it, i need guidance and advice, thank you all In advance.
Always surprised at his thin the filters are, much thinner than motorcycles I have experience with. And unlike motorcycles it is a lot more work to get to them. Given the effort Suzuki should have either made access easier or made a better filter. Curious to see how a B650 compares with a Honda Silverwing 600 in ease of maintenance and if serious issues arise more or less frequently.
Thanks For The Videos... They're Very Informative And Cool.. I Just Purchased My Burg 650 Last Saturday And Love It... I Just Have To Get A Aftermarket Seat Because I'm 6'4" Which Limits Leg Room. Any Suggestions Would Be Appreciated.
Hey there, can you provide an update on how the Burgman’s are holding up, and also which tires you found to last the longest? I find that I keep getting scalloping on tires.
A little off topic, thinking of buying a 2015 ABS. Are there any issues in particular you would suggest I look out for? Thanks, find your videos very informative.
Thanks for that going to check mine this afternoon. Do you still have the bike be interested to know how many miles it has done and any problems you've had, if any. I recently bought a 2012 model. Thanks again.
At this point in time I’ve got approximately 15,000 miles on the bike and I’ve had zero problems with it. I hope you enjoy yours and ride safe my friend👍🏻
My CVT belt just broke a week ago at around 80k model 650Z 2015. I think it's a good idea to change it at 70k to avoid the cost of road assistance, in my case 300CHF, I was lucky though as I was only 20 km away from home...
How can I wire a boss 635BA speakers to my burgman 2011 want to put speakers on reservoir covers have ball mounts and want to not drain battery thanks!
I would say that it is probably going bad. Oh it’s probably your belt it could be the clutch but usually the clutches last quite a long time as they are bathed as oil.
love my burgman. but did not realize how hard basic maintainence really was. I will be selling my low milage Suduki. back to Kymco for me. much easier to work on without the expensive design flaws
Hey I love your videos but I got a question for you I'm about to buy a 2006 Suzuki Burgman 650 not the executive that has 85000 miles on it for $2000 is it worth buying? The guy I'm getting it from told me that it's been kept up with maintenance 9 of 10 so what do you think that it's worth buying? Thank you for your help and time God bless you and ride safe
85,000 miles seems like a lot of miles for a scooter. I think if I was in the market I would be looking for one with less mileage. The price is good but the mileage is very high and that would concern me a little bit. Just my two cents. Good luck in your search and ride safe👍🏻
It could cause the system to overheat a little bit and it should be on the same side. The bike doesn’t change gears it runs on a belt that varies the gear ratios as you accelerate. The buttons simulate gear changes but it just changes the position of the belt and hold it in that area.
i had an 04 and the dealership gave me the wrong transmission oil. got back from a 3 day trip through banff and i guess my cvt or the belt was like a hand Grenade went off. ended up buying a blue 05 a week later.
@@ManCaveMayhem oh well. I like the color blue better. It was weird though seeing two burgmans sitting next to each other. (Side note I know for me I also lovingly call my bike the barge.)
I'd put a shop vac hose on one hole and blow to the other ported hole that way it'll remove the debris instead of shoving it way back into the nether regions of that contraption.😂
@@ManCaveMayhem No problem. I got it off today. I noticed in the videos the use of a screwdriver with a 8mm socket bit. I pulled the vent to the side to make enough room to use the screwdriver to remove the bolt. Thanks for making the video
STEALERSHIP🤣 ain't that the truth!!!. If I get it @$5300😳💸💸💸 All your videos will help greatly!! Thx Larry.🇺🇲✌️btw I subscribed,, do you still have your 2012 Suzuki?
@@ManCaveMayhemHey there curly, I finally pulled the trigger yesterday on a 2017 Burger 650 she's beautiful dressed in white although she does have a big mouth in the form of a hidden legitimate trucker sounding air horn touch the factory button and all the neighbors are looking out their windows wondering what the hell is semi truck is doing on their city street, this guy really did everything up right with perfection in mind without being gaudy It does have extra LED fog lamps also lights on the large Givi trunk originally all black had It custom partially painted to match the bike also Givi windshield also came with the OEM stock one along with several RAM mounts a cup holder, cruise control adapter two different legitimate backrests, a phone book thick factory maintenance manual a (battery tender brand) modular helmet, gloves wireless headset Xtra Mobile-1 oil he uses the list is endless He's done many long tours about 23,000 mi on the bike not a mark on it that I can find,, A really decent older stand up man getting out of the hobby for personal family reasons otherwise he'd still be riding. It was a 420 mile round trip journey to pick up the bike well worth it I get a buzz every time I walk in the garage and see it.✌️🍀
@@ManCaveMayhemI've been hesitant to get one of theirs because it requires sending off the seat and my burg is my only vehicle, dont think I can go a month without it. But I hear really good things about them and that one looks plush
This is very helpful for those of us who are servicing Burgmanns for the first time. Thank you Sir, much appreciated.
Glad I could help👍🏻
So I did this today and my filter was completely disintegrated!! Just the medal frame… I purchased it in march with 44,000 miles.. I love riding it! Thank you for the content!! I also changed out the final drive oil which looked like the goo that comes out of something on Dr.Pimple Popper… next I’m going to do the transmission oil…
So glad the videos help. Ride safe my friend 👍🏻
Ebay has the OEM filters for around $30, honestly just peace of mind to just replace it rather than it falling apart at some point
Absolutely that’s a good idea👍🏻
For those without a compressor, I found the easiest and arguably most efficient way to clean the filter. Use your vacuum with the brush attachment and just gently brush over the foam as the vacuum is on. You clean it very well, very fast, no drying time needed, and everyone has a vacuum already.
That’s a great way to do it. Thanks for the input and thanks for watching my friend👍🏻
Very nice video, thanks. You took the mystery out of doing something very important!
Thanks my friend I appreciate your kind words. Ride safe and enjoy your scoot.👍🏻
I used some green stuff cleaner and washed the filter, then let it dry and replace. After washing it looked like new, good to go. Thanks for the great vids on scooters!
Makes me happy to know that this helped👍🏻
On my 2005 400 my CVT filter had actually disintegrated. Half of it was gone! I had checked and cleaned in the past. Good thing to keep an eye on.
i’m just gonna stick with my Honda Silverwing instead lol
a transmission service is only about $400 parts and labor just under an hour
and the belt looked good despite having 25k miles on it
Cheers my friend you are a man with many informative videos, this is one job i must do on my bike before riding this coming summer. Thankyou.
Thanks so much for the kind comment! I’m glad I can help👍🏻
After fighting with the CVT cover bolts, I finally got to the filter, I am glad that I took your advice. The one I took out has been disintegrating
I’m glad I could help👍🏻 Thanks for watching.
@@ManCaveMayhem how can you tell if it’s the belt or clutch? My 04 650 revs high before catching
@@morphdadon9467
What did you find?
Separating the upper and lower halves of the CVT filter cover makes getting out the top right cover bolt much easier. A flexible socket extension is also necessary.
For sure thanks for the input on that👍🏻
Actually you can get to the top right bolt by lifting up on the top plate cover. It does move out the way just enough to access the bolt with a straight extension.
You make great videos, thank you so much!
Thanks for your kind words. I’m glad the video helped.
Just bought a 07 with 16k this will be the first thing I do! Thanks for your videos. Been stalking them since I started looking for a 650.
Thanks my friend👍🏻 I’m glad it has helped!
Make sure you replace the CVT Bolt as well, it can save you a lot Money.
@@tchecholino what is the cvt bolt?
@@geneb5482 it's called CVT stopped Bolt. There is a project issue which makes this bolt snap due metal fatigue, allowing your whole CVT go out of alignment. But if you change it on time, before it brake, you will be good! I have a friend that had to open the whole system to make repair after a snapping bolt... But to change just the bolt itself, it's very easy and you can reach out without disassembly anything.... Search on google for Burgman 650 CVT stoped bolt. 2012 or below are the problematic ones. Sorry my rusty English!
I'd be vacuuming out the dust not blowing it into the CVT whilst the filter isn't fitted there mate .
Hello Mr Mayhem i'm new to the bike world just purchased a 06 Suzuki Burgman 650 been following all your videos outstanding anyway can you please make a video all changing a thrmostat and what to do when the fill bolt on the trans won't tighten thank you so much sir you help so many people like me make sure you include Mr. West in the video lol
those filter do rot, if my bike is older than 5 or 6 years old bite the bullet and get a new one, living in fl. i have found mud dobber mud nest in a bike that have set for a while, and your right I have replaced a belt before on 2005 with 60k a lot of work, enjoy your videos, keep it up
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help👍🏻
Sooper demo thanks 😊
Thank you I’m glad it helped👍🏻 thanks for watching and thanks for the support and kind words.
Thanks I didn’t know any of this 🤘🏻💯🤘🏻
Thanks for watching my friend!
Also 1. Keep Water away from the exhaust of the cvt inbetween your legs. 2. Check the Stop Bolt of the cvt regulary for damages 3. if it happens it happens.
Thanks for the input. Very good stuff👍🏻
Love you’re vids. I have a 2012 also, with only 10,000k. Do the 2012 models require stop bolt replacement, or did they use stronger bolts for our model?
That’s a great question. I have yet to mess with it. I know that belt improvements were made on our model but not sure about the stop bolt.
Very good! I always replace the Primary Pully Bolt each time I change the oil. Not expensive but just a Peace of mind thing. I will have to inspect that filter on my next vacation next month.
Good to hear from ya friend!
Does the bolt require changing on 2012 models though?
@@yourflavr Suzuki has upgraded the bolt twice. It is now 21748-10G20. Not sure what they did. Maybe hardened it? Anyhow, I think you should at least inspect it for wear, even if you don't need to replace it.
I'm struggling to find out why my 650 burg won't move . Bought as a project running engine but non driving rear wheel. Have checked codes got C51 on dash . Have removed the CVT electric motor bench tested fine , have disconnect the primary position switch no drive still. Have disconnected the centre stand switch -still no movement of wheel . Can I physically inspect the drive belt in any way without dissasembly of the CVT ? Someone suggested it could be ecu related is there anyway I can test it ? Thanks for your help
And would the primary pulley bolt U speak of cause a no drive issue ?
SO WERE DOSE THE AIR GO FROM FILTER OVER THE BELT THEN WERE DOSE IT COME OUT AT.
I need a video on how to replace the seat strut. II'm having a lot of trouble getting to the bottom of the strut to replace it
Great information
I’m glad I could help👍🏻
Great vid thanks
Good info, thank you...
Thanks for the kind words ride safe my friend👍🏻
Hi everyone, hope y'all doing? I'm buying one these scooter tomorrow, with 2117 milea on it, what should i check before paying for it, i need guidance and advice, thank you all In advance.
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Always surprised at his thin the filters are, much thinner than motorcycles I have experience with. And unlike motorcycles it is a lot more work to get to them. Given the effort Suzuki should have either made access easier or made a better filter. Curious to see how a B650 compares with a Honda Silverwing 600 in ease of maintenance and if serious issues arise more or less frequently.
Thanks For The Videos... They're Very Informative And Cool.. I Just Purchased My Burg 650 Last Saturday And Love It... I Just Have To Get A Aftermarket Seat Because I'm 6'4" Which Limits Leg Room. Any Suggestions Would Be Appreciated.
Mine is a Russel day long saddle. Pricey but good.
What about the c50 issue?
Do you have a video on adjusting the parking brake?
No but I can certainly do one look for it soon👍🏻
Hey there, can you provide an update on how the Burgman’s are holding up, and also which tires you found to last the longest? I find that I keep getting scalloping on tires.
I’ll be pulling Burgman‘s out soon and doing some more reviews on them thanks for your comment. Any ideas for videos👍🏻
A little off topic, thinking of buying a 2015 ABS. Are there any issues in particular you would suggest I look out for? Thanks, find your videos very informative.
I’m not as familiar with those newer models. The drivetrain is essentially the same I think. They are pretty dependable bikes👍🏻
what is the part # revzilla is as clear as mud about it.
Thanks for that going to check mine this afternoon. Do you still have the bike be interested to know how many miles it has done and any problems you've had, if any. I recently bought a 2012 model. Thanks again.
At this point in time I’ve got approximately 15,000 miles on the bike and I’ve had zero problems with it. I hope you enjoy yours and ride safe my friend👍🏻
My CVT belt just broke a week ago at around 80k model 650Z 2015. I think it's a good idea to change it at 70k to avoid the cost of road assistance, in my case 300CHF, I was lucky though as I was only 20 km away from home...
where can I get an aftermarket belt, google it is very expensive,can someone point me where to buy thanks
Wow, that looked so straightforward to do without Wes getting in there "helping" getting it done.
How can I wire a boss 635BA speakers to my burgman 2011 want to put speakers on reservoir covers have ball mounts and want to not drain battery thanks!
Depending on what kind of system you would want it hooked to a switched hot so when u turn off the key it shuts of the stereo.
How can you tell if it’s the belt or clutch going bad? I have a 04 650 and it’s revs high before catching
I would say that it is probably going bad. Oh it’s probably your belt it could be the clutch but usually the clutches last quite a long time as they are bathed as oil.
Q: which used 650 scooter would you recommend? Suzuki? Honda? Yamaha?
I would look for one with low mileage and oneThat you feel comfortable on any of those big three should be pretty reliable.
love my burgman. but did not realize how hard basic maintainence really was. I will be selling my low milage Suduki. back to Kymco for me. much easier to work on without the expensive design flaws
You think its hard? I think its pretty easy you get to a lot of thinks pretty easy.
Great tips as always. What happened to Wes? Did you take his lunch money and he said your not my BFF? 😂
Hey I love your videos but I got a question for you I'm about to buy a 2006 Suzuki Burgman 650 not the executive that has 85000 miles on it for $2000 is it worth buying? The guy I'm getting it from told me that it's been kept up with maintenance 9 of 10 so what do you think that it's worth buying? Thank you for your help and time God bless you and ride safe
85,000 miles seems like a lot of miles for a scooter. I think if I was in the market I would be looking for one with less mileage. The price is good but the mileage is very high and that would concern me a little bit. Just my two cents. Good luck in your search and ride safe👍🏻
Thank you so much for your help have a great bless day and God bless you and your family
Hey on a 2003 Suzuki Burgman 650 is the cvt filter on the same side as yours is and if it's dirty will it cause the bike not to change gears?
It could cause the system to overheat a little bit and it should be on the same side. The bike doesn’t change gears it runs on a belt that varies the gear ratios as you accelerate. The buttons simulate gear changes but it just changes the position of the belt and hold it in that area.
Best to just change it taking all the stuff off. They aren't that expensive and foam does disintegrate. Wish they made them out of different material.
Great,now im paranoid
Nothing to be too worried about I’m sure you’re fine🤣 Thanks for watching and thanks for making me laugh.
You can cut a new filter from window ac and glue it into the metal frame
That’s a great idea. Thanks for the input👍🏻
Where did you get that seat?
It was custom made for the bike by Russell day long saddles.
where the hell to buy the replacements though so hard to find
Are you talking about the belts or the filters?
@@ManCaveMayhem I managed to find it on partzillla the belts is the tough one to find
Here's a link: www.mrcycles.com/oemparts/a/suz/577fcab287a86612d476dd72/cvt
Down the list is the belt. #31.
The foam filter is #2.
Is this the same on a 2013 650?
I’m sure there is a filter
i had an 04 and the dealership gave me the wrong transmission oil. got back from a 3 day trip through banff and i guess my cvt or the belt was like a hand Grenade went off. ended up buying a blue 05 a week later.
Yes that is definitely the weak point of these bikes.
@@ManCaveMayhem oh well. I like the color blue better. It was weird though seeing two burgmans sitting next to each other. (Side note I know for me I also lovingly call my bike the barge.)
@@Cadmium_wraith That is a fitting name because they definitely are barges.🤣
Thanks❤
I hope it helps. Thanks for the kind words, my friend.👍🏻
Thanks for time and effort gotta love the Big Burg😁
If the filter is made out of foam, then replace it after a few years....otherwise it will disintegrate due to age.
For sure👍🏻 I agree 100% mine was in good shape so I didn’t have any issues cleaning it.
🤘🏻💯🤘🏻💯🤘🏻
7500 miles seems to be the magic number for Burgmans. 😁
I know. You wonder who makes this stuff up. Some engineers somewhere.👍🏻
@@ManCaveMayhem There comes a time in the life of a project when it becomes necessary to shoot the engineers and start production.
what's a 2008 with 6800 miles worth ?
Not sure about that. The prices will vary from state to state and there are a lot of variables like miles, condition etc.
I'd put a shop vac hose on one hole and blow to the other ported hole that way it'll remove the debris instead of shoving it way back into the nether regions of that contraption.😂
For sure🤣👍🏻
No video shows removing the top front bolt. It's blocked
Sorry for that
@@ManCaveMayhem No problem. I got it off today. I noticed in the videos the use of a screwdriver with a 8mm socket bit. I pulled the vent to the side to make enough room to use the screwdriver to remove the bolt. Thanks for making the video
@@AZtheOG I’m glad it worked out. Keep the rubber side down.
doesnt show removing the one bolt thats actually tough to get to ...come on
Sorry about that.
Add me to the disintegrating group. Thank you.
🤣👍🏻 Will do!
69,000miles
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STEALERSHIP🤣 ain't that the truth!!!.
If I get it @$5300😳💸💸💸 All your videos will help greatly!! Thx Larry.🇺🇲✌️btw I subscribed,, do you still have your 2012 Suzuki?
Yes I do. I love the thing I probably will never get rid of it.👍🏻 ride safe my friend
@@ManCaveMayhemHey there curly, I finally pulled the trigger yesterday on a 2017 Burger 650 she's beautiful dressed in white although she does have a big mouth in the form of a hidden legitimate trucker sounding air horn touch the factory button and all the neighbors are looking out their windows wondering what the hell is semi truck is doing on their city street, this guy really did everything up right with perfection in mind without being gaudy It does have extra LED fog lamps also lights on the large Givi trunk originally all black had It custom partially painted to match the bike also Givi windshield also came with the OEM stock one along with several RAM mounts a cup holder, cruise control adapter two different legitimate backrests, a phone book thick factory maintenance manual a (battery tender brand) modular helmet, gloves wireless headset Xtra Mobile-1 oil he uses the list is endless He's done many long tours about 23,000 mi on the bike not a mark on it that I can find,, A really decent older stand up man getting out of the hobby for personal family reasons otherwise he'd still be riding. It was a 420 mile round trip journey to pick up the bike well worth it I get a buzz every time I walk in the garage and see it.✌️🍀
@@yukonjack.glad to hear you found one. Ride safe my friend.
@@ManCaveMayhemThx U-2 And I agree I'll never get rid of mine either!!!!!!!!!🇺🇸
Mines 2007
What seat do you have on it? It doesnt look like a corbin or stock
It’s a Russell day long saddle👍🏻
@@ManCaveMayhemI've been hesitant to get one of theirs because it requires sending off the seat and my burg is my only vehicle, dont think I can go a month without it. But I hear really good things about them and that one looks plush