SpaceX challenged by Flat Earther
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- @SpaceX challenged by a Flat Earth prince of the Dunning Kruger effect to the most ridiculous, expensive and unnecessary way to prove... the globe is turning!
Oh yes, @p-brane8358 does idiot like a boss!
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It’s hilarious how silly flat earthers actually think people at space agencies care that a handful of stupid people actually think the Earth is flat.
Phol. Perhaps you can organise this experiment...
@@MrSensibleHistoric Actually, P-Brane appears to be doing nothing more than moving the goalposts. By rejecting all of the easier proofs, P-Brane is trying to make the job as difficult as he can.
@@MrSensibleHistoric what experiment. He made a valid point.
I say the same thing when flerfs want some ridiculous proof that will only fill their needs.
Like a full uninterrupted video of a launch and 40 more cameras all over the rocket and on all the astronauts and a camera on earth filming it all then cameras from space filming the lift off. Blah blah blah.
Also a video of all the planets orbiting the sun and the video of earth spinning at 1000mph.
NASA lies but they put in hints in all their articles, telling everyone they're lying. However the only people who can figure it out are a bunch of jobless basement dwellers.
Absolutely right there. These scientists' job, isn't to convince a bunch of dipsticks that the earth isn't flat.
@@clemstevenson Yes, he would call such a launch CGI, anyway. Remember he does not believe in space so what's the point of launching something to non-space from the pole?
He acknowledges the air is thinner above, hence GRAVITY
I'm sure SpaceX is shaking with fear now.
For sure, I can already hear Elon's ETH rattling in his wallet
Probably watching his video laughing there a$$e$ off
Sure, SpaceX is more concerned with constant failures in their rockets and the company always inches away from bankruptcy.
@@nOOn3nOOn3
Well if Elon would calm down a little bit then they wouldn’t in that position.
The SpaceX Transporter 4 mission launched multiple satellites into sun synchronous orbits at an inclination angle between 97.4° and 97.9°, so almost N/S. The first stage reached a speed of over 7,000 km/h and had no problems to land on a drone ship that was rotating with the earth at a 90° direction afterwards.
So there is no need for P-Branes "experiment". It's already done and dismissed.
Precisely. But we can't expect someone who would propose an experiment like this in the first place to have any understanding at all of orbital mechanics.
Wow. He really doesn’t understand anything about conservation of momentum.
Even if he did somehow succeed in his preposterously stupid idea, NO FE would ever accept ANYTHING that I’d shown
You could have stopped at: _He really doesn’t understand anything_
Actually, I think he does. That’s why he wanted him to go to the north pole. What he doesn’t understand is that the earth doesn’t spin at those varying speeds(0mph at the pole and 1000mph at the equator.)
It spins at .000694 rpm. No matter where you are.
Yes, the tangential velocity at the equator is 1000mph. But that’s negligible at best.
Im sure Space X give a crap.
Even if Spacex did what he wanted, it would be rejected.
At this point it's safe to say, that even if they put all the flerfs on a flight on one of these, they would claim either hallucinations or CGI, tv, screen windows and some electromagnetic parlour trick of weightlessness. 🤷🏼♂️
@@curbotize Yup. Heard those arguments already too. Everything from a pyrotechnic thrill ride to hypnosis and everything in between.
Gotta lie to flerf, even to themselves.
@@mrandrat625 demonic possession was another one I'd heard.
@@Forest_Fifer lol.. Now that's one I hadn't heard. They really are delusional.
Umm, by P-Brane's own logic if they can't land it because there is a 1,000 mph wind then the Earth is a globe, they can't do it, and so they won't do it. If it is flat and they are pretending then they won't do it. In both cases they won't do it. So P-Brane is completely safe in issuing this challenge and so being able to chant "Nah Nah, Nah Nah, you see, I was right, they didn't do it!"
A rocket sat on the pad exactly over the North pole is actually rotating at 15 degrees per hour. That isn't exactly perfectly still. If the rocket flies through the rotating atmosphere then it will be accelerated sideways by that atmosphere for free. If the rocket flies above the atmosphere then it will get pushed sideways by denser and denser air as it descends. The rocket can angle itself to counteract the left over sideways difference in momentum as we have seen so I see no problem in it being able to land. Hmm, I think P-Brane didn't think this through.
"15 degrees per hour."
thanks, bob!
man, that never gets old.
There are Polar Satellites, you don’t have to launch from the pole to do it..
Yup. It all depends on which way one points the rocket!!
The first one I remember that was a polar orbit was an entire second stage of an Atlas rocket. It didn’t last very long, but it was really bright and flashed because it was tumbling. It seems to me it was around 1960.
In fact most of them.
P-Brane could always play with KSP to get a grasp of how orbital mechanics, rocket launches and landings work.
No way in hell he accepts a computer game as educational or valid. CGI lol. He doesn't even accept real video footage.
@@curbotize He doesn't even accept reality.
I agree. Some of these troglodytes just need to play KSP for a few hours to learn basic orbital mechanics.
I don’t see how Pea Brain is going to get the slightest grasp of something like orbital mechanics when he’s too stupid to tie his own shoes.
He might play it but still claim it's all CGI.🤣
Dear p-brane, why don't you simply take a laser gyroscope, which is way cheaper (around $20.000) than a rocket launch and see if it picks or not a 15 degrees per hour drift?
thanks, bob!
And then hold it up. No, a bit higher. Interesting...
@@georgeprout42 Enrique…is that you man?
@@georgeprout42 don't you just love it when flattards debunk their own bullshit?
Hmmmmm, intersting.....
If Space is fake. Why is it called Space X?
1. launching nearer the equator is a slight advantage in terms of getting a slight boost due to rotation. 2. Launching from the North Pole there is a big problem with the cold and weather conditions effecting pumps and valves operating . 3. Launching from the pole is restricting the launches to polar orbits, to then change the orbit, after launch to a more useful orbit takes much more energy and therefore more fuel and therefore more mass. 4. Getting the massive amount of equipment needed for a launch to the pole poses a problem. 5. Big problems with the equipment in super cold conditions. So with that in mind why on earth would you bother launching from the poles with little to zero advantage.
And don't forget the massive hit on protected environment and wildlife.
Just get a boomer sub.
@@Isolder74, annnnnd there's the biggest problem. If you launched from the Arctic Ocean, there's a chance the Soviets . . . I mean Russians . . . might interpret a launch from a Boomer as an attack. On the other hand, SpaceX RECOVERS boosters on a barge. It might be possible to launch from a barge if you had the right support ships.
Launching a rocket with enough energy to get into orbit requires a huge amount of infrastructure including a very complicated launch pad designed to prevent the initial burn from destroying the rocket. And then what happens to all this infrastructure once the ice pack melts?
Flerfs can’t process more than one idea at a time.
@@profphilbell2075 Why didn't he propose to launch the rocket off the Ice Wall? The Ice Wall is eternal and we could simply drop it from there :D Damn, flerfs can't even flerf right.
I love the way you always work references so well into your scripts.
And we have similar tastes in movies and humor,, so you're obviously one of the smartest, most talented and extremely handsome people on the planet.
Obviously. And so must you!
Hitchhiker's and Red Dwarf? Excellent!
Angular velocity vs linear velocity...the flat earth nightmare.
What is the velocity of a laden swallow...?
You just made me think of the episode when Legion converts Rimmer from a soft light hologram to hard light.
Of course a Blake's 7 fan too.
A man of exquisite sci-fi taste!
Orac FTW
I wonder if he ever considered why they put heat shields on the exposed surface of the space crafts that return to earth with the intent to reuse them.... He thinks that the 1000 mph difference in wind speed compared to the spin of the earth is going to be problematic when the re-entry speed for things like the space shuttle is 17,000 mph... the 1000 mph speed isnt so incredibly fast now is it???
Meterological rockets were launched at McMurdo's polar station in Antartica in 1962 and 1963. But of course, Peabrain does not accept Antartica exists...
That challenge really got me laughing. Pea-brain indeed! I think he is upset that he missed top left award and has started his bid for the 2023 vote early.
Ummm.... 1000 mph is NOTHING compared to orbital velocity, so it's really not going to work the way he thinks. So if hitting the atmosphere can slow a rocket down from approximately 17,000 mph to close to nothing, relative to that atmosphere, then an extra 1000 mph really isn't going to make much of a difference, especially since the 17,000 mph isn't in the opposite direction of the 1000 mph. Heck, at right angles, that 1000 mph is adding less than 30 mph to the speed of the rocket.
Actually the reason most rockets are launched eastward is this velocity. Using it saves fuel.
@@arctic_haze With rocketry, everything matters. 🙂
@@John.0z Well, it is free 400 m/s at the Cape Canaveral latitude.
@@arctic_haze Quite true, I should have specified I was strictly referring to reentry. Heck, just launching to a different inclination due to seasonal issues means SpaceX has to launch fewer Starlink satellites in a Falcon 9.
@@erics2133 I have never thought about the effect of the Earth rotation on reentry but it should work the same way: flying eastward you have 400 m/s less velocity to lose.
There is already satellites in polar orbits. The earth rotate while the orbit is stationary, like a gyro or Foucault's pendulum.
Just a small quibble, but it is incorrect to say the north pole isn't rotating. If one were to launch a rocket from the precise location of the north pole, the rocket in its ascent would be rotating along its vertical axis, like an ice skater spinning in place. Because the north pole is part of the physical planet. It is not an axle on which the Earth is rotating.
I know it's just a minor point, but it illustrates how little Flat Earthers understand about the globe Earth. But then, if they understood it better, they would probably recognize that Flat Earth is really, really stupid.
Correct. At the center it is still rotating at 15 degrees per hour. However, the center has no linear displacement to have any tangential velocity in any specific direction therefore that speed is zero. Of course this is only completely true for a point mass at the very center.
A Falcon 9 cannot go that far and have enough fuel to land..
you talking about the bird or the rocket?
@@boereherp8705 - Have you ever heard of a bird that has a number after its name?
No.. I didn't think so. Got any more idiotic questions?
@@Garryck-1 yes, you seem to be more idiotic 🙂Since you clearly failed to get my comment 🙂
@@boereherp8705 - would that be an African or European Swallow?
@@Starhawke_Gaming you choose. seems like you'll swallow anything 🙂
I'm a "white van man". And
even I know this is a silly idea. 😜 Nice video Mr Sensible. 👍
No one tell this guy about polar orbit satellites... Which orbit the earth at a 90 degree angle to the equator, using the rotation of the planet below to do things like map out the entire surface...
He could spend a few hundred dollars and test how GPS works...
that money would be wasted because GPS is way too complicated for pee-brain to understand
Nah they will claim weather balloons are used. Or secret air crafts like spy planes or passengers airlines that are equipped with secret devices that we are not allowed to know about yet some how they know about them.
I may of lost 60% of my brain cells thinking like them
@@paulglennie1991 gotta lie to flerf.
Suddenly I have an overwhelming urge to watch Red Dwarf. Thanks Mr S, now I have something to kill time with.
On the Sensible Scale, this 7 minute 23 second video is equivalent to a video of P-Brane blathering for 23 seconds, followed by 7 minutes of everyone else performing aerobic face-palming exercises.
Wisely Mr. S chose to instead provide a comedic alternative, which was much appreciated.
And the Orac deactivation noise at the end was a lovely touch.
Again with the impossible standards of evidence.
At least p-brain acknowledged that the atmosphere moves with the Earth.
"At least p-brain acknowledged that the atmosphere moves with the Earth."
Don't worry, he will deny that he ever mentioned it if it is brought to his attention.
Until his brain goes through the next FE reset. At least he's aptly named himself, shame about the spelling but I guess it's the best he could manage.
The easiest way to launch a rocket from the North Pole is from a submarine. Try asking Putin, if he’s not too busy right now.
Don't give him ideas, please.....
I heard pee brain is in protective custody due to an incident where Dave Murphy tried putting a straw in pee brains ear.
Pee brain was heard shouting as he fled in terror.
"Dave, your not taking the piss"
SpaceX already launches rockets, flerfs yell CGI. Challenge is to launch a rocket...I guess maybe the challenge is actually to do it in the least suitable spot possible. Then they just yell CGI again?
Very good Mr. S! You never fail to bring us the most ignorant people around, and besides the great entertainment that you provide, these peoples videos make me feel so smart. Thank you again!
0:48 Now, now… stop it! Less than one minute in and this videos already far too silly! 🤣
Good spot!
The insignificance of flat earth and flat earthers is mind blowing. Why have we spent 6 years on these gombeens? It makes me sad to think we even bothered
"Nobody likes a challenge more than me"
I saw what you did there... 😂😂😂😂😂
Ouch! That face plant hurt my face!
Well why doesn't p. Brain get his credit card out and pay for it ?
Great idea P Brane! Why don't you crowdsource it? Might it be be easier to crowdsource an airline flight across Antarctica, over the Ice Wall, first? Think of getting 200 Flerfers on a single flight over the Antarctic! But then they would come up with some kind of doubletalk to explain that they didn't find the Ice Wall.
I noticed you didn't say the aircraft returns.
@@iamnotamused317 I was going to, and then a bat was flying around my bedroom. Really. So I didn'tfinish. Lost sight of it, so slept with the windows open, but I have no idea if it left.
Ho boy so much stupid! It kind of hurts! They are so unaware of their own confusion it's fascinating to watch but kind of scary honestly.
I don't even know where to start with this one. He doesn't know anything about the booster flight profile if he thinks this can't be done, and his logic is backwards! He's essentially challenging SpaceX to perform a launch and landing that would be easier on a stationary earth. It doesn't make sense.
That white van man sounds kind of familiar.
I don’t know if he’s familiar, but he does like fluffy kittens.
You know what’s really scary is that we actually have people running for Congress in America who believe the world is flat.
Oh please no, who?
Why didn't pBrane suggest the South pole? Rotation is the same as the North pole. It's almost as if he doesn't believe it exists. 🤦Oh yeah! 🐧🐧🐧🐧Penguin police are here to take him away!
i nominate pee-brain for the next top left (or DFOTY, whichever happens first)
Gonna be damn crowded top left...
TLDFOTY
@@thezenwizard yeah, there must be a big city on the summit of mount stupid.
Flying straight up from the north pole and then turn to the side? When does he think gravity stops pulling on you? Right, never ^^. It gets smaller and smaller the further away you get, however at a height above ground of 1000km we still have an acceleration of about 7.34 m/s² while on the surface of the earth we have the approximate 9.81m/s². Even at the height of the geostationary orbit with a height of about 42000km we still have an acceleration of about 0.17 m/s². So you can not just stay at a fix spot above the earth. You would have to continuously fire your rocket engine to stay at your desired height. That's why we have to go into an orbit so the tangential velocity cancels the gravitational acceleration. That's what an orbit is.
At the height of the ISS (about 420km) there's still almost full gravity of about 8.64 m/s². That's why the ISS has to go around the earth about 16 times per day.
At the geostationary orbit height any object at that height that is in an orbit around the earth would complete one orbit in exactly 1 day. That's the point of that height. So when it rotates in the same direction as the earth rotates, it would stay at the same spot in the sky from our point of view. That's how all TV satellites work.
At the distance of the moon, the moon gets attracted to the earth at a rate of about 0.00425 m/s² That's why it takes about 27 days for the moon to make one full orbit around the earth.
The further out you go, the less tangential acceleration you must have to stay in orbit since the gravitational acceleration goes down. I quickly looked up the orbit period times and found this:
Mercury 88 days
Venus 224.7 days
Earth 365 days
Mars 687 days
Jupiter 11.9 years
Saturn 29.5 years
Uranus 84 years
Neptune 164.8 years
Pluto 247.7 years
As you can see, the further out from the sun the planet is, the longer its "year". It's crazy when you think about it that in the average livespan of a human, Uranus doesn't even make a sing full circle around the sun.
I'm sending a bill for loss of brain cells....
What could go wrong? The Flerfer could be eaten by Arnold.
Hey, I'm in the video!
Ooh. So you are!!!
hm, would that be arnold the terminator or arnold the furry quadruped?
hehe, yes. You are!
Arnold Judas Rimmer reporting for duty.
@@mrxmry3264 aren’t they the same fearsome beast
Is the hologram bit a reference to Rimmer and perhaps a bit of the EMH from Voyager? :)
He has the H so Rimmer.
0:40 Don't forget Captain Johnson.
How can p-brane be so wrong; let me count the ways.
What an expensive way to demonstrate Coriolis. Space-X are not out to satisfy flerfs.
P Brane knows nothing about Orbital mechanics.
Wouldn’t it be better to launch from the South Pole? Antarctica is, after all a continent. It’s solid. There’s no danger of a 55 ton rocket, falling through the ice. Oh yeah! I forgot! There is no South Pole, because what NASA (And hundreds of years of navigation) says is a continent, is actually a huge wall of ice, on the edge of a floating desk.
Oy!
Does Pea brain here really thinks anyone at Space-X, NASA, ESA, Roscosmos, etc. even knows he exist?
thinking would require a brain.
does P Brain not realise that the 1000+ mph spin creates a massive vortex 🌪 at the axial poles. This means that there would be nothing for the rockets to push off, to get into space.
I'm sorry I could not resist. 😄😄😛
Mr S. I thought it was an egg-whisk, a wet selleri, and a flying helmet.
lol @p-brane could have won the 'top left' award with this! All that work coming up with the little model seems harder than googling "is there land at the north pole?", "do rockets melt ice?", "is 1000mph really all that fast?", "why don't rockets land pointy-end first", and "rockets just go straight up to get to space right?".
Spoiler alert, Pea Brain ;
1. No land, just ice on the Arctic ocean. You know, that stuff that rockets melt when they aren't smashing through it and sinking.
2. See 1.
3. Sure it's fast - until you compare it to the 17,400 mph orbital velocity.
4. Having the pointy bit aiming down makes the rocket go faster. We want the rocket to go slower, less kaboomy, so pointy end up.
5. GRAAAAAAAVITY!!!! Have you ever heard of gravity? GRAAAAAVITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Brilliant totaly Brilliant and you close with an Orac sound effect to give it a cherry on top.
Good spot.
Indeed, However Zen would have been more apt.
@@MrSensibleHistoric I do love my classic TV cult shows.
@@dogwalker666 Could be, but I do think the Orac switch off noise was a ideal for the Hologram closing down.
@@robslide3466 Probably.
I'm waiting patiently for just one brilliant flerfie to produce a single piece of incontrovertible, positive evidence that supports a flat Earth.
273 sexual techniques? That's 273 more than Mr S Mk 1, according to Mrs S.
His stupid nearly made me jump out the bedroom window head first
Hooray! We got actual cheesiness!
Also a picture of real cheese.
And it was very calming.
I like fluffy kittens. Only 273? Slacker.
Poor little Pee Head.
He'll NEVER amount to anything in life, so he feels the need to drag others DOWN to his level.
I think the voice module on your mk17 emergency hologram needs calibration Mr S, its voice was incredibly deep.
Good grief, he really is a crayon muncher, definitely not getting enough greens. .
Good to see calming cheese selection. Add blue vein & heart attack pill. Pls
Well, he called himself a pee brain. That's the first and last time he was right about something, in his lifetime. omega-nuclear-facepalm
What P-Brane doesn't realize is that this is done every day by satellites in polar orbit. The satellite moves in a north-south direction at, say, 17,000 an hour while the Earth (and the atmosphere) rotates beneath it at 1,000 mph at the equator in a west-east direction. That's what give the ISS its classical sine-wave orbit.
I can just about guess what his reaction would be if someone explained that the Poles are "spinning" at the same rate as everywhere else on the globe (15°/hour) so launching a rocket from there wouldn't make much of a difference outside of it spinning like a top as it goes up.
I'm willing to chip in for this test... provided it has the most annoying flerfs aboard.
He showed something is absurd but it isn't the idea that the Earth is a spinning ball.
Flat Earth CZcamsr challenges self-made billionaire.
Self-made billionaire --- crickets
Flat Earth CZcamsr - "You see! I'm right! I must be because he ignored me. He's obviously scared!!!"
Loved the Red Dwarf bit. Well done!
Tell Rimmer & the Boys from the Dwarf I said Hi. 🤣
Mr. S, please pass this on to Holographic Mr. S, if you would: P-brane and other flat Earthers will be first up against the wall -- only AFTER the advertising department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation!
Here's an interesting question . . . if P-brane were offered a free ticket to fly aboard a SpaceX Dragon 2, allowing him to spend several days in Earth orbit and to take part in EVAs so he can take pictures from orbit (caveat: he must use a large format FILM camera, with the film to be developed and printed by a disinterested third party), do you think he'd take the opportunity to disprove the globe through a combination of personal observation and photographs?
Oh, one more thing: someone should tell P-brane that the North and South geographic Poles are NOT stationary, as P-brane maintained. As has been shown many times, it rotates at the same rate as any point on the equator: 15 degrees per hour (insert gratuitous "Thanks, Bob!" here). No 1,000 mph winds to worry about -- the booster would be rotating with the rest of the Earth.
A little bit more expensive than your options, P brane could purchase a laser gyroscope and record the drift. What... It's been done!
Thanks Bob.
Flerf: earth is flat.
Elon: i have a space rocket, lets go and see.
Flerf: but windows are round so you can't see reality.
#gottalietoflerf
Flat earthers and not understanding inertia are like peanut butter and jam, they go hand in hand.
Flat Earthers not understanding inertia, yes. Peanut butter and jam 🤢.
Now, peanut butter and coleslaw or tomato chutney 😊
1:38 😂😂😂 Ohmmmmnomnommmmm, cheeeeese...
Elon Musk really doesn't care what flat earthers think.
Gutted by the salute. You missed a trick, should have gone full Rimmer there lol.
P-brain :are you thinking what I'm thinking ?
JM truth : yes! but where are we going to find rubber pants our size?
It's just a recycling of his aircraft from the north pole challenge!
The earth rotates at the same speed no matter where you are. That speed is .000694rpm.
Oh those damn headaches...
I just lost unknown amount of braincells watching this video.
The importance of having cheese...
An Snark Sighting !
& a Versatrak Series F
P-Brane doesn’t have a clue. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
At 3:42, who cut the cheese?
Love the Red Dwarf reference Mr. S!
Love the RedDwarf reference!
Well, she married you, S. She must enjoy a challenge, right?
Thank Nonexistent God for that calming picture of cheese. I wouldn't have gotten through such flerf stupidity without it.
I think my intelligence chip as melted
A Red Dwarf fan…too? Are you going to sneak in “the Goodies” too?