Breaking Into A Safe With An Axe | Sturdy Gun Safes 3/16" Body Versus A Competitors 11g Body
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Axe attack on a standard 3/16" thick Sturdy Gun Safe vs. a competitors 11g body. Watch how quickly breaking into a safe can be. Many thin steeled gun safes get broken into every day with non powered tools, so get a thick steeled safe and get the security you need! www.sturdysafe.com
Wow! I'm wishing that I had gotten a sturdy safe instead of the Liberty Revolution I bought. I was recently a victim of burglary and all my guns were stolen. The crooks used my axe to chop away the back panel after they dropped the safe on its door. Yes, it's my mistake of not bolting the safe to the floor and for leaving my axe unlocked and easily accessible. But, please learn from my mistakes so this doesn't happen to you. My guns will be missed but I have learned valuable lessons from being a victim of this.
Don’t be. That safe is just as garbage. Nobody is coming with an axe. They will have a grinder and sawsall. Unless it’s 1/4” plate steel or better, thieves will cut through the side in 3 minutes and be out in under 7 minutes.
that's some great safe bustin' music! Something tells me that man is still working on the strong safe!
Dang, those were some pretty hefty swings, too! Good video.
a coupla heavy hitters swingin that axe.
Sturdy makes amazing safes!
THIS is the sort of test I have been wanting to see! I was about to make the plunge on an AMSEC (anyone who has been researching can tell it's an AMSEC). The entire year my gut instinct was to get a sturdy, now I can say I'm ready to get a Sturdy. Great video that shows exactly what I was questioning regarding the concrete mixture vs thicker steel.
After researching safes, I was set on sturdy then I read their lifetime warranty requires a rejection from your home owners insurance, well if they accepted it it's a $500 or $1000 deductible, AMSEC doesn't require that, the warranty is on a burglary attempt not a warranty on whether or not your insurance company paid for it. I continued by research and decided a TL-30x6 is what I'm going with given the minimal additional cost.
There is no "double dipping" unfortunately. If your insurance company is going to pay for it, we won't cover it as well. If they say they are not going to cover it, we go ahead and cover it. If you told your insurance company you didn't want to pay for their deductible, they will write you the letter saying they won't cover it. TL's are great safes for those who's foundations can hold the weight and owners who can afford the costs of them.
amsec safes at this price point are still 10-14 gauge, that's a fail...
This is an excellent sales tactic! Awesome safe!
Safes are basically TIME DELAYS I dunno why people don't get that. ANY safe can be broken into...but does a crook have 2 hours to do that? How bout a cutting wheel, drill points, or plasma cutter? Well, why on earth would someone bother with a safe that contains what? $6,000.00 in fine guns? Don't worry your .22 and 2 Walmart shotguns are safe. It is meant to stop casual entries. So SHOULD you spend the extra money for a better safe? YES, even after saying that I said I still think so. A great gun safe will last MANY lifetimes and the difference in price between imported junk and well made is not that much. You probably can't afford a Holland & Holland “Royal” Deluxe Double Rifle, but you CAN afford to buy a great gun safe. (P.S. Good stuff costs more money..duh)
I FRICKIN LOVE MY STURDY!!!! I love their new looks and their pricing! I going to get another one cuz I dont like a big safe in my room plus I believe you should never put ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET! So two is like DOUBLE SECURITY.
If you have time to beat on a safe like that trying to get it open you have time to cut it open with a grinder. I'm not saying this safe isn't obviously a beast but the accessibility of modern power tools has made stand alone safes significantly less useful than they use to be.
I like a Sturdy safe. I feel they make a good gun safe. I'm not here to bash Sturdy but, the Amsec BF safe your beating up on was their base model with the 11g outer layer and 16g inner. I did a price comparison with options. If you added the 4g inner layer to the Amsec making it the HD version the two safes would be very close in thief protection. The cost ? Both safes if you compared Sturdy's 3/16 wall option with 3/8 door and Amsec's 4g liner option and 1/2 door the price was very close. They both offer a quality product. I personally feel Sturdy has a better locking mechanism on the door however, Amsec has a better door organizer and nicer looking safe. Either way you go if you invest $4000.00 in a Sturdy or Amsec Your going to stop most burglaries. In either safe power tools will get you in pretty quick.... As I said most burglaries ! You add a few cameras and an alarm system you should be good to go. Thank you Sturdy for this video I can tell you take pride in your work. I know this video was to express that the poured fire material does not strengthen the metal or add security to the safe. I beg to differ. Anything that will slow a thief from gaining entry is a security matter. They will atleast have to cut it out of the way to get into the safe which will take more time than breaking out drywall.
With regards to fire retardant filler. I think they mean to point out that it's not cement that you would expect in composite walls of higher end safes. When there is an 1-1.5" of poured cement, the burglar is guaranteed to face noticeably more resistance than with sheets of glorified drywall.
You are correct. The Drylight sure isn't cement. If it came down to just burglary protection . I'd much rather have the thicker metal. I did learn this, the drylight is better for fire protection than concrete given the same thickness. It's like playing rock,paper, scissors. Depends on the situation I guess. In a burglary i'd want the thicker metal.In a fire I want the fire retardant. Me I want both. I've seen the drylight in action. That stuff works . If fire protection is no concern to a gun safe buyer. Then a Sturdy safe is a good buy for around $2300. I wish Amsec would step up like Sturdy and make some hands on videos, this would help their sales. These videos show me Sturdy truly believes in what they sale and are not afraid to put it to the test. I like that. A message to Sturdy. I here a lot of complaints about you looseness in the handle. People don't like the jiggle it has. It makes the safe seem cheap. This may not make the safe any vulnerable but I know it's hurting your sales. People don't like it. Good product never the less, thank you for your videos.
Thank you for the update.Good deal, it's good that a company would keep their eyes and ears open to reviews from customers. Perhaps Sturdy has corrected that issue. I would love to see a posting of your safe and your thoughts on it. I'm looking to pickup another safe just to pack ammo in. Don't need the fire protection on that one. I may give Sturdy a call on this one. Good luck with your safe and always remember to keep your powder dry.
Very well stated. You have done your research. I am the fence as well, even after realizing exactly what you observed.
I found it hard myself to choose a Gun Safe. When your looking for a gun safe we all have a price range we're wanting to stay under. This is what I have discovered in my research. I put my budget under $5000. From Browning to Sturdy to Amsec to Liberty, to Steelwater , you name it I looked. Browning offers a good locking mechanism on there high end models but have thin walls. Sturdy has great burglary protection but not so great fire protection or appearance .Liberty has thin walls and too wide of a door gap for my comfort. Steelwater is a good choice for the money buy the're made in China and have no certified fire protection. Amsec"s BF series offers good fire protection and good wall thickness if you upgrade to the 4ga. inner liner but, if you pull the door organizer off the door and look at the locking mechanism you'll be sick...The door locking works are very poor. I could go on and tell so much more where the Amsec BF series are good and lacking, this would take a while. I ended up going with a Amsec 6030HD. It cost me right at $4500 and took two months to get. As far as my choice goes I'm still not completely happy because of the way they made the lock bolts. Every gun safe I looked at has issues. If you and I want great fire protection plus security and be completely happy with both we're going to get into the $7500 price range. If I was willing to go up in price my next choice would be the Graffunder "B" Bishop Series B3032. Your looking at $5600 not counting shipping. I hope this helps. We haven't even touched on the subject of water damage just about every safe is not water proof and guess what the fire responders are going to put on your house fire ? Life sucks don't it. Good luck with your safe and keep your powder dry.
It's more than Sturdy. it's American quality.
This video just made me realize why they put spikes on medieval axes and war hammers.
Damn that did a lot better than I thought it would do.
Makes me ask how bad of a job do you have to do to assemble a safe with 1/2" & 1/4" thick steel door and walls that fails a UL RSC test.
Because that has apparently happened before.
I read that Sturdy Safe has 3/16" steel on the sides, thicker than other safe manufacturers. Even on their website, under "HOW THESE SAFES ARE BUILT, it says it will stop NON-POWERED tools from getting through as demonstrated in this video(nothing about powered tools). I wanted to believe these were superior safes. however it took 3.5 minutes to cut a 3/16" plate steel all the way across using a circular saw. Using a grinder the timing may differ but it can be done in a short time. If you want to see the video here is the CZcams link. czcams.com/video/EDwxLnkq2z8/video.html Sorry Sturdy safe
So which safe for the same price did you select? No one out performs the Sturdy at the price points. The video you shared regarding someone cutting across a flat on its back non-secured 3/16 steel plate is beyond laughable if you used this as part of your "credible" research in safes. Sorry Uber You Tuber.
whats your point? thats ANY safe short of a Graffunder.... sturdy still the best for the price BY FAR.
Hey guys, can you do a torture test on a Vault Pro American Eagle series safe?
What magic is being used to hold up his overall bib?
HILARIOUS
Do this axe test on a graffunder fortress safe
Graffunders can be cut through in minutes with a cheap power tool. Their highest end models would last 5 -8 minutes. (6X6 inch square opening on 1 inch of steel)
@@alexmarlow2508 Umm, that's just not true... you can cut a 6x6 hole through mild steel 1" plate with a good saw with a good blade possibly in that amount of time to be sure. However their top of the line model use 1" high tensile plate backed by 1.5" high pressure cement composite filled with all kinds of bad stuff. They build those to a TL30 standard, you can watch UL tests to see how quickly one can attack such materials. It's not a few minutes and a harbor freight circular saw kinda deal my man.
@@tdb19872 TL-30 can survive an attack by power tools for 5 minutes
@@alexmarlow2508 You have some very serious tools then, lol.
@@tdb19872 not mine, it’s the testing protocol, TL-30 bodies need to survive 5 min of tool attacks, it’s their guideline, read up on their testing thing or the definition of TL-30 safes
We’re those two axes the same?
With all due respect, you are using an axe. Your safe is certainly more durable with the blunt end but can we see how many blows with the blade of the axe it takes to get into your safe? I can't imagine a burglar with an axe would not use the blade of the axe they brought with them. Also, the fire insulating material is not anything I've ever thought of as a deterrent. Maybe that's just me. I've only thought of the metal structure and bolting system as the deterrent.
What you say might hold true with Wood however, with steel it’s better to pike through to breach faster.
@@SturdyGunSafeMFG - Ah....I studied the video further. I didn't know there was a point on the backside of the axe head. I thought it was just a blunt, rectangular side and the edge of it was being used. Thank you for the clarification.
looks dangerous! these boys need ear/eye protection
Who breaks into a safe with an Axe though??? How would it hold upto a grinder?
it would be fucked, just like every other gun safes out there, with the exception of a few high end models like Amsec RF or Graffunder, but those are $9000+.
Doesn't look like a safe... Looks like a rusty solid steel plate
impressed
Are you positive you're using your competitors' best safe with their added metal upgrades? Or are you doing what everyone else does and comparing your best to their entry-level product 🤔 most reputable safe makers will let you buy as much metal as you want.
This video was taken a very long time ago. Things change over time for all manufacturers, however during this time we were continuously compared to this particular brand and model, with this particular insulation still used today. Dealers would make claims of the insulation adding security. We did this video to show them how much security this insulation actually adds.
I don't see that you gained entry into either safe lol. Sure one had more damage, but you didn't get anything out.
Two words:plasma cutter
Ever use a plasma cutter? So, you sure the house has 22vac to run it and what about the air compressor needed to run one? As for an angle grinder, how many wheels are you going to bring,? 3/16 is a WHOLE lot harder to grind through than 11 or even 10 ga sheet metal. It's all about slowing down a dimwitted tweeker, not a determined orogessional.
kingoeggman
Exactly
@@kingoeggman so what would stop a grinder better between an 11ga+drylight+12ga sandwich vs 3/16 or even quarter inch like some of the Fort Knox have?
@@bjdunne5113 all about the same, I keep seeing people getting stuck on those 3 since they are 3 of the most popular options. Your best option is to come up with a little bit more $ and get the Amsec BFII, it has total thickness of 1/2'' steel on the body and 2'' of drylight pour, and the door is even stronger (the front door plate alone is a solid 1/2'' plate, with 11ga liners inside). Its probably the strongest RSC in that price range, its the first RSC 2 qualified safe.
@@kingoeggman I own a metal fabrication shop and we use plasma cutters. You are correct. It's the angle grinders that will be the ticket. For the really big safes (the Browns, Graffunders, high end AMSECs and the like) you'll be burning up a lot of wheels and on the highest end you'd need some really big-ass wheels to even get through them. Running into tungsten balls will be kinda sporty too.
I'm getting one. great music.
Please stop! You are ruining those axes. I hate to see it.
If you just wanted to punch a hole in it shot it! But if you want in it get a grinder and cut a hole in it!
Well FUCK. If the guy ooozing machismo with the neck tats can't get thru SIGN ME UP!
Was just noticing the axe used on the sturdy safe had the point cut off of the part used to hit the safe! Hard to see but look close. Misrepresentation of facts by a company means poor quality probably should not buy their products. It maybe the same axe but it’s definitely not new or sharp like it was just taken off a fire truck. This test needs to be repeated showing the tools used
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Same axe was used. Resharpened the same way and equivalent amount before each test began. This test was done fairly. We believe we are the most honest safe manufacturer out there.
lololol for fcksakess... c'mon now LOOK HOW FCKIN' THICK THAT STEEL PLATE THEY ARE POUNDIN' ON ..DUHHHHH
This is garbage. Put a grinder to it and see how long it takes. I can cut that sturdy safe open and take everything out of it in around 5 minutes. You need 1/4” steel or better to deter that type of theft. Unless it’s 1/2” you are still subject to this attack it just adds 15 minutes to the task. Make a realistic video. This is bs
You can eventually breach 1 inch plate or thicker with high power tooling and enough time. The whole point of this video is to show how 3/16 is the minimum required to stop non-powered tools. Our kind of customers don’t want to hear non-power tools can breach their safe.
I bought a Brown HD TL-15 safe. First, the thing has 1/4" steel INSIDE the outer shell. So, after a crook wears himself out getting through the 10g steel and poured concrete, he still has to face 1/4" plate. Plus, my safe is in a place where you can't swing a tool like an axe. You'd have to move the safe to get it out in the open or knock down walls. My safe weighs 4,880 pounds empty. No way you're moving it, bolted down or not. Brown makes REAL safes for guns, not "gun safes" that don't offer real protection.
Timothy Parkhurst Those are awesome safes. If one can afford the safe, afford to ship and install it, and have foundations that can afford to support them, then it’s a great route to go. We cater to those who can’t do one to all of the following mentioned. We offer steel thickness in various ways to get close to that type of security without all the weight and cost. Brown actually acknowledges us as being a true gun safe with some of the upgrades we have to offer in our packages and it’s rightfully so. This is located in their gun safe comparison section.
why didnt you just go with a TL-30? or Amsec RF series?