Another Medical Student YouTuber QUITTING? | Faye Bate Reaction
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- Faye Bate recently made a video discussing her thoughts on leaving medicine. Although I am not too familiar with the UK medical education system, it seems like there is a lot of overlap between the issues that medical students face in the UK and the issues they face in the US. In her video, she touches on issues of physician compensation, work-life balance, and sunk cost fallacy -- all of which factored into my decision to leave plastic surgery residency. As someone who left medicine to pursue entrepreneurship, here are my thoughts and reactions to Faye Bate's "Dropping Out of Medical School + Defending My Decision."
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Introduction
00:27 - Deciding to Quit Medical School
03:28 - Sunk-Cost Fallacy
04:09 - Physician Compensation
04:55 - Work/Life Balance
06:50 - Freedom and Flexibility
11:00 - Med School Culture
13:25 - Leaving Medicine for Social Media
18:45 - Faye's Decision
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The Problem with Residency Match Week | Dr. Glaucomflecken Reaction: • The Problem with Resid...
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It seems to be more and more common that people leave for other aspirations. I keep hearing residents are overworked, and with the physician shortage only growing, they’ll only be worked more to the bone. Of course, here I am still wanting to go into medicine though haha
Haha same here
I wanna go to but high suicide and substance abuse rates in the field and burnout are giving me pause
I got click baited by watching someone get click baited by watching someone.
I almost spit out my water at the end of the video 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 she is definitely trolled TF out of us.
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😂 she definitely tricked you. But I noticed she was saying a lot of "why I considered" versus "why I left". So she was deliberate with her language lol
I started Medical School about 3 weeks ago. It is absolutely insane. I am in classes for at least 8 hours a day, then spend roughly 2-3 hours beyond that in after hours anatomy lab, and another 2 hours minimum studying and keeping up with lecture material. I'm managing to squeeze 8 hours of sleep a night, but that's literally it. My schedule is school and sleep, with MAYBE one hour to prepare meals and travel to classes.
I hope this is just how it is at the beginning for Anatomy, Histology, and Embryology courses, but I am really struggling to keep up.
I was in a similar position and it does get better. I find that I have become more efficient in studying and planning out my day. I get about 3 hours of free time a night and a bit more on the weekends (for cooking, cleaning, meal prep, and video games, reading, and a bit of hanging out with friends). I do get closer to 7-7.5 hours of sleep (30 mins for a morning workout).
Point is hang on! It does get more doable. My upperclassmen seem to have more free time than I do (despite being M2's!!). Don't underestimate how amazing we are and how skilled we become as we go tru med school.
Good luck!
Just started med school as well and I understand the “drinking from a fire hose” analogy now…. I hope it get’s better fr
Good luck to you sir
Lol LECOM?
It does get better :)
@@crimansizers5840 I really appreciate your reply because it gives me a chance to update a bit for any premed who may be freaked out by my comment. 2 months later and things are already going much better.
Like you mentioned, I've gotten much more efficient with my study habits. In person classes and labs have dropped off a bit and we have more time to ourselves to schedule as we please. Generally, I just have adapted, the courseload is still the same, but it just gets... more manageable as you learn and adapt.
My upper classmen say the same things, and I'm already drooling over the time that my MS3 counterparts have on some of their rotations.
Thank you for your encouragement!
In Nigeria just like the UK, after your medical training, you aren't a fully certified doctor. Earning your MBBS doesn't guarantee you working as a doctor. The route is secondary school (high school), medical school (earning MBBS and a provisional license) then housemanship/internship (after this, you are given the actual medical license).
Anyway, this is in reference to her having to wait an extra year after medical school.
Same in Hong Kong, might be how all the British commonwealth systems work
Same here in India as well. The Internship is a must, and then a Standardized Test for your License.
perfect for me! I have just one semester left next year of a total of 6+ years..=residential...and is wonderful seeing 2 perspectives.Because I felt demotivated lately..I have just 3 exams left this semester.
She really got me at the end.
She was just seeking attention. Shouldn’t have bothered with this Kevin
A lot of her content seems clickbaity but I think I understand the intent behind the video. It could’ve worked if it was executed a little better 😂
LMAO wtf? I was completely click baited
In the UK there are several competitive entry points/bottlenecks on the route to becoming a consultant (attending). Foundation training --> Core training --> specialist training --> consultant. At all these points you can get moved anywhere in the country, you do get to rank them though. Often you have to cover multiple hospitals over sometimes quite a large geographical area resulting in dangerous and long commutes.
It takes around 10-12 years post med school to become a consultant however many people take years out of training to locum/ travel as training is tough.
I still find it somewhat inspiring. I quit my family's business to go back to school to get prerequisites to go to medical school.
Your reaction at the end 😭😭😭😭
I can barely imagine doing anything else. I crave to become the medical doctor I'm meant to be.
Ur crisp voice is what keeps me watching all ur videos 😅💜
I say, if you still want to a Doctor or you consider being one, you might as well dump advise from your lovely CZcamsrs and go for Med School & become a Doctor.
Be Med students!
Be a Medico!
Be a Med Doctor
Minimalism and productivity fever is over, click bait is the new thing.
Trigger warning: self-harm, suicide
I honestly get so happy when I hear med students or graduates take the leap and quit. The flak we get for changing careers is just insane. Why is it encouraged for other careers (esp during the big resignation), but not us? Personally, I quit for self-preservation. I was 100% sure I will harm myself in one way or another if I forced myself to stay, and that thought scared me so much. It was becoming more and more a reality when some of my colleagues had also attempted suicide. (I haven’t finished the video yet so I might edit this comment.)
EDIT: Re: an experience you can’t speak about - God, I literally had to sign an NDA before I could enter a pre-residency program. I have so much tea but can’t talk about it!!! All I can say is the culture and politics is so horrible, and I think that’s something people do have to know before entering med school.
EDIT 2: Lmfao that clickbait, I hate this hahaha
April 💜 I hope you're in a good place now. How incredible that you're sharing this! I know others will appreciate your candor and vulnerability. I, too, feared that medical school & residency would affect my mental health--especially the lack of sleep, which I've found seriously affects my mood and thought processes. I chose to become an NP instead and support a team of wonderful physicians. Perhaps I would have survived (thrived?) in medical school but I'm just not sure. I hate that so many doctors-in-training are treated so abysmally 😞 Our health care workers deserve better.
Trigger warning 😂😂
I didn't used to understand this. As a pre-med I was definitely a more "work hard, never complain, if people complain they're just contributing to a negative atmosphere and procrastinating by complaining." But then I started med school and realized how serious the pressures really can be. It was actually a series of attendings I followed who talked about the malignant culture and opened my eyes.
Then one of my classmates fell victim during STEP studying. I wish right now I were reading a comment from them like what you posted here, instead of knowing that they are gone. I am glad that you were able to discern that the path you were on was not right for you instead of forcing yourself into something harmful for fear of the stigma of quitting. It takes A LOT of strength to walk away. I hope you are supported and getting the help that you deserve. Always know that you made an incredibly brave decision.
To quit your degree is a bad choice, why would seeing other people quit just because you flaked and quit make you happy! The degree can still be used for other career paths and is very valuable not to mention a rare opportunity that some people would kill for.
Completely agree and went through very similar experience. Put yourself first instead of others' expectations. Hope you are well sister!
I am an Indian ,given Indian ,UK and USMLE ,I believe UK was my easiest not only to get in, PLAB was easy breezy. Not to sound hard, UK doctor's quitting is more acceptable thank USA or India. Sounds harsh
Loving the thumbnails 😂
Bro you might have been bamboozled. As a physician who is looking forward to drop out of medicine permanently after finishing my residency I can pretty much say you have bamboozled me and all of other viewers. I know your channel but I never knew Faye Bate until i watched this video. It was you that bamboozled me to think another doctor left medicine permanently bro not the Faye...
I’m not surprised if she quits. Her specifically.
Why her specifically?
Please explain?
I agree... her she seems to be nice person, her vlogs are very good. If she quit to be a non med influencer she would be good one
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Got click baited by you as well. Haha, didn't really look at the question mark in the title. Lol
she didnt quit, she just made a vlog on it
This is the most unpredictable plot twist I've ever seen 🤣🤣🤣 nice and really done written 🤣🤣
dentists on the other hand make the same as the US but have uk debt...and it takes 6 years, 5 plus 1 training
why do I keep seeing these videos is this a sign lol
I was about to go to her video and comment why she click baited so hard, but looks like she made it private
Funny enough i had to go to her youtube page before the video ended, and i saw that she was already a physician saw i was confused until i reached the end of the video 😂😂 ......
shocking twist
yes she will earn her MBBS at the end of the year
She should complete it and then go to australia!
I wish she could reconsider this decision.
She worked for soooo many years.
she didn't end up leaving ! she loves med too much - I'm one of her long time fans
I am junior doctor quitting :(
Wait, what? 😂. Didn't see that coming.
🤣🙂😂 she didn’t quit…
It’s not true it’s click bait I’m her brother
TLDR: She should have done her last year in medical School and then say/do what she wants to do
Yup - she doesn't have a real undergrad degree if she leaves with a year to go. That can be a real problem.
You would have to be crazy to drop out, at least finish your degree 🙄. You would have a priceless degree at the end of it. FINISH THAT DEGREE. You can use it for another career, doesn’t have to be a practicing doctor.
If you are suffering you just cannot do it believe me.
To anyone applying to medical school thinking now that you took the mcat your life is set.. medical school is hell..and a career as a physician isn’t much better. It’s not the movies. Don’t say you weren’t warned. You will have no time to sleep, go to parties, hang with friends, maintain a healthy balance in marriage, etc. social media only shows you the positives. Behind the scenes is a hell fire. This is your warning. PA school is the route to take!
Why is PA school better
@@joshuaestudillo718 two years of school. School is less than a quarter of the price and the current trend has midlevel providers (NP’s and PA’s) taking many physician jobs (economically better for a hospital). Moreover, PA’s have true nine to fives which is becoming near impossible for 90% of physicians.
Eh, some countries actually care about their med students and don't make them jump through so many unnecessary hoops. I like it here
I’m a 4th year med student and I disagree. Highly dependent on the individual’s tolerances and the school you go to. It’s so hard (working 80 hrs on my sub-is) but I also love it
@@LaurenMichelleMD wait till you’re a resident and then an attending. Keep pushing.
Wow this is crazy
I wonder if she quit because of a sexual abuse or sexual harassment in the hospital or at med school or misogyny. Also I wonder what her social economic background is? Or maybe she wants to settle down and get married and have a family? Or wants to have a career somewhere else?
Read the comments, figured she was trolling as always.
This was a funny Video HAHA😂
19:19 😂
What kind of think is this?
Lmao what did I just watch
who cares, they are weak for stopping and will regret this decision
maybe before commenting, educate yourself on the system in the UK
“Watch till end”💀💀💀😭😭😭
Wait what???!!
She tricked us!!! 😂😂😂
Kevin Jubbal has been played 😂😂😂
Well If I'm offered a few million dollars for it then I'd gladly quit Earth altogether and live on Mars for the rest of my life, gladly.
Was it just me who heard “women ☕️” at the end?
Yes, it was just you
Faye Bate... more like click bait!!!
First
First to comment 🤓
For sure people left in the past but nowadays they can get attention, views and sympathy on social media.
Disappointed with YOU!
I understand why Kevin doesn't watch the video before deciding to do a reaction video so that his commentary is live, spontaneous, and unscripted.
However, this video proves that someone Kevin trusts should watch the video & tell him whether it's worth making a reaction video.
This clickbait video was certainly not worth reacting to!
I realize that Kevin spent a lot of time setting up his camera & filming so he didn't want to toss his efforts into the trash (the sunk-cost fallacy that he mentioned!).
However, out of respect for his very busy audience, Kevin should have thrown this video in the trash because he turned a clickbait video into another clickbait video.
I may no longer watch Kevin's reaction videos as a result.
Respect our time, Kevin.
You wasted time watching her stupid video.
Don't waste ours.
I recommend deleting this video.
Your fans will thank you.
This is first video I've hit the DISLIKE button.
If you agree, hit the DISLIKE button to send Kevin the message.
A clickbait chain has been generated.
I luckily scrolled through the comments section after 5 min of view time that saved me another 15. Happy April fool's day everyone
A bit of an overreaction. Instead just comment on the original video that it's clickbait
@@mustang8206 Hitting the DISLIKE button is an overreaction?
Unsubscribing would be an overreaction.
Both videos are clickbait.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
The way I see it, it wasn't a waste of time, his insights are still pertinent regardless of what she does, since he's mostly discussing the reasons she's bringing up (like sunk-cost and burnout and toxic cultures) and less so her personal future.
There was still valuable discussion in the video regardless of what her ultimate decision was
Too many (mostly women) medical school applicants really want to be online celebrities and use their medical school admission to further that ambition rather than letting it be a natural side product of it.
lol - if you watch her videos and even watch to the end, you will realise that she lives and breathes medicine and loves it as she does it. this comment is bs because no one is putting themselves through 10 + years of constant vigorous education to be an "online celeb"
@@rejoiceamieghemen4638 One look at her social media profile tells me all I need to know about her and her "love of medicine"...clear case of Narcissist Personality Disorder and attention seeking.
Shut up man.
women 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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