FULL REACTION: UNITED STATES OUT OF COPA AMERICA 🚨 'UNDERACHIEVERS!' - Herculez Gomez | ESPN FC
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- Herculez Gomez, Ale Moreno and Kasey Keller join Kay Murray on ESPN FC to react to United States' 1-0 loss to Uruguay to be eliminated from Copa America 2024.
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Ale Moreno is the only commentator who actually watches Conmebol games. The rest no comment
one HUUUUNDRED percent 😂😂. We think we are better than Peru. We are not. We are about mid table or lower in conmebol. They are Ana actual team
@@markislivingdeliberatelywe'd be last place we weren't even better than bolivia
He is really good.
His comments about trying to grind against Uruguay was right on. He knows what he is doing.
EUA ficaria em oitavo ou nono nas eliminatórias Sul-americanas.
Why blame the refs when you should be blaming the coach?
why can't you blame both things at once?
It’s never just one thing
Blame the players 1 goal in the last 2 games is pathetic
Ref was bad though
@@jason_loco149Especially when the ref made bad calls and stopped/failed to stop play during potentially critical moments. This official can’t be let off the hook just because the USMNT has bigger problems.
Moreno knows CONMEBOL. For their previous two games we saw the new Uruguay, however they haven't forgotten to play as they did in the past. For this game the Uruguay we are more accustomed to showed up. The one that grinds, the one that plays with physical tenaciity, the one that tackles relentlessly, the one that absorbs all you throw at them, counterattacks gets their goal and it's game over. They are versatile in that they can play pretty and with speed but can also play the most physical football in South America. They know how to play and win ugly.
The one that fouls but South American refs don't give cards to their teams.... totally cynical soccer. Similar to the Brazil final v Argentina. Argentina couldn't keep up with Brazil so the ref let Argentina foul their way to the win.
@@user-gn4mq9wi4j The referee was in over his head to many mistakes. The USA yellow card shouldn't have been given. The second USA card should have resulted in an immediate stop of play. There was also missed calls. R. Araujo got an elbow to the face with no call and nandez got a backhand to the face that wasn't called because the referee and linesmen were out of position. I think an additional referee is needed. One for each half. This will also keep them honest.
"They know how to play and win ugly." That put a smile on my face. As uruguayan I could not have said that better. We may not have the best team but it is a team nobody want to play against.
The fact that people think thr USA is in Uruguay's league is amazing.
Objectively speaking. The US Mutant Ninja Turtles did well.
Lol.... USMNT....
Uruguay es la mejor selección del mundo.
Bielsa is a fantastic coach snd Uruguay will Copa America
I found it shocking that fifa has the USA ranked 11 and Uruguay 14
I’m not a US fan but the game was pretty even between the two. What are you talking about.
im glad ale is exposing what real US fans have been thinking
They need to hear it
💯
As an American, I’m glad this happened. Berhalter shouldn’t have ever been hired in the first place, never mind rehired. And some people needed a reality check that we aren’t a contender, we need a better coach that can give us a shot against bigger teams. The ‘22 loss to the Netherlands showed how Gregg was out of his depth and we needed a better coach to take that next step, instead we’ve gone backwards.
Thanks Bob,Gregg fired
All true....wait are you an MMA WEAH guy?
Then you and BJ, despite your truth bomb statement, select all the same starters I'd guess.
What about this?
Sargent Puli
Reyna Aronson Pomykal Cowell
Otasowie Richards Reynolds Scally
OMG a NON MMA WEAH lineup!!!! The humanity!
Hey although I'm pooped after that game I thought I scooped the boys confidence and lifted the vibes
Good take. I agree. He is the b version of what Southgate is for England; the textbook example of what a bad manager (not coach) can do to a talented team. Managing elite talent/personalities is like driving a $500k car, just because you know how to drive, doesn't mean you know how to drive all cars. Makes you appreciate an Ancelotti, Guardiola or Mourinho. Sports travesty when generational talented teams (I know the US and England are on different levels), like what Belgium was, are ruined by incompetance at the high levels of the organization. Oh, and Roberto Martinez has the infinity stones for failing up.
If berhalter fired, then result blessing in disguise
Consider this: Gregg is a far, far worse manager then Bob Bradley, Bruce Arena, and Klinsmann. How he has retained the job is shocking.
"We're favourites behind Argentina and Brazil"...Are you now? 😂😂
The USMT can blame refs and whatever as much as they want but the truth is that this is on the board and the manager. A manager who was appointed by a family member and is simply not good enough....
yup. It's been five years and a bunch of great players (relative to what came before) and it hasn't been good enough at all.
I’ve not seen anyone say the ref is THEE reason we lost but he’s definitely a part of it.
Truth is we will never see in our lifetime a ref try to play advantage and give a yellow at the same time again. Never it’s a level of incompetence that’s almost impossible at this level.
We screwed this up and GGG and his brother must go (and never should’ve been hired again) but that was genuinely thee worst refereed game I’ve ever seen
@TheBlackHole-re7nx great players? That's half of the problem, usa players are overhyped and overrated.. th3y are not world class players
I didnt ser the manager in the firld playing, half of the fault is on the players simply not being good enough period.
yup facts but the officiating didn’t help and that’s also a fact
The US plays way too many games at usa, not abroad. They should man up and always go to Copa America in South America to hostile crowds and unfamiliar places. It'll toughnen them up instead of useless Gold Cup that they always host. It is a talented squad, but w/soft players & weak coach
I've always thought this myself. I love the Copa. I have many South American friends and I know how important it is to that continent, so I would prefer the tournament to always be in South America. Playing there toughens you up.
I hear you dude, but that would be bad for the brand, you see. We get that experience going to Azteca, Tegucigalpa, San Salvador, San Jose, Belize and Panama during WCQ and we struggle against that.That's why we decided, in the last WCQ, to play I think El Salvador in Minneapolis, Minnesota in winter because we were underwhelming and not getting points when playing in Central America. Doing what you suggest in South America, in altitude in Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Bolivia, and then against the titans of CONMEBOL would be so humbling and humiliating, US Soccer would realize they can't sell, promote and squeeze money out of a team that's ultimately a medium-sized fish used to swallowing guppies in a small pond suddenly finding itself being devoured by the sharks of a bigger footballing ocean in South America.
"Talented squad?"...more like an overrated squad.
They need to call it football. Not soccer. Pay some respect.
Bro, we were invited by conmebol. I think the US federation really messed up by not hiring Lopetegui.
The mistake the US made was to come out and try to make the game physical. I think Alexi Lalas, prior to the game, commented that the US should go in hard, take early (clean) fouls and let Uruguay know that they wouldn't be intimidated by Uruguays high press, speed and transition game. Uruguay saw this and said "Oh you want to play a physical game...let us show you how it's done."
They've been playing like that for their entire history. The US played to one of Uruguays greatest strengths and paid for it. You can take a second division team from Uruguay and yes you will beat them however you will be feeling it for a few days.
Exactly, utterly stupid decision to go there. This was a 0-1 result and Uruguay was not going after the game. You can blame the coach on that - you should know your opponent before hitting the pitch. In this case (and every other case) he had no clue. LOL - You tried it!
What are you talking about they had no choice the ref wasn't carding the Uruguayan plays or calling fouls.
@@justjaay1203That’s not an excuse for losing. Even without the dumb goal call a 0-0 draw still gets us grouped.
USA DIDNT HAVE CHANSE IN H .E.. LL BEATING URUGUAY.. USA GOT EMBARRASSED BY COLOMBIA LIKE mONTH AGO. YEAH YEAH USA TIE BRAZIL BRAZIL PLAYS EASY AND usa forgot that Uruguay embarraaed Mexico too. . Or they didn't read their history. URUGUAY 2 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS. 15 TIME COPA American Champions tie with with powerful GOAT Messi and argentina and Brazil way behind in third place. URUGUAY GOT siccer-futbol in their BLOOD I THEIR VEINS SINCE GREAT GRANDY AND TATA ABUELA. Back in the day.
Alexi Lalas has the IQ of an MLS assistant coach and a bad one at that. Anything that fraud says should be taken with a fistful of salt
Herculez Gomez hit the nail on the head - and we know whose head he meant. Enough said.
this commentator is 100% right. cant grind against Uruguay
Why was Berhalter 3:56 telling his team at 60 minutes that the other game is 1-1…. Just worry about winning the game. Seconds later Uruguay scores 😅
That is what happens when you’re on someone else’s Mersey rather than taking care of your own 💩. He was hoping Panama draw and US can hold Uruguay to draw. USA didn’t came to win the game they were hoping for draw and Panama draw too. Horrible coaching
I had to pee. I was letting the players know
Totalmente, el fútbol es muy psicológico. Los partidos se definen a una sola jugada, y ahí es donde reside su atractivo. Los Simpson se burlaban de ello diciendo que el fútbol es sólo pasar y pasar, pero el problema es cuando te mantiene pegado al asiento, sobre todo en los minutos finales porque sabes que en cualquier momento el juego puede cambiar. Entonces, si el fútbol es el deporte más psicológico que existe, ¿por qué el entrenador les dijo a sus jugadores que el otro partido estaba empatado? ¿Por qué distraerlos, por qué hacerlos complacientes? Entiendo la emoción de la afición en el estadio, pero ¿el entrenador? No quiero faltarle el respeto a nadie, pero está claro que este entrenador es de Estados Unidos y no ha crecido en un país futbolístico. Eso es un pecado para cualquier entrenador. Deberían traer un entrenador europeo o sudamericano, preferiblemente este último, y si es posible, insistir en que la federación se traslade a la CONMEBOL, como lo hizo Australia al mudarse a Asia.
En CONCACAF nunca mejorarás. México está peor que Estados Unidos, Panamá lo logró por milagro y Canadá acaba de descubrir el fútbol hace cinco años. En Sudamérica, excepto Bolivia, que es con diferencia el más débil, todos los demás equipos son muy difíciles. Sus estadios son hostiles, hay presión, juegan duro. Allí el fútbol se vive de otra manera. No sólo Brasil y Argentina, cualquier país puede competir. Puede que no tengan grandes nombres, pero todos los equipos compiten. Por ejemplo, Perú, que actualmente ocupa el último lugar de la clasificación, estuvo en el top 10 del ranking mundial en 2017 y ganó el premio a la mejor afición del mundo. Eso lo dice todo.
Entonces, ¿a qué esperas para jugar allí y dejar de jugar con Jamaica, Panamá, México (que está peor que nosotros, aunque creemos que son una potencia futbolística) y Canadá, que ni siquiera tiene liga propia? ? Vamos a jugar allí. Estoy seguro de que nos recibirán con los brazos abiertos gracias a nuestro dinero. Puede que no lleguemos a un Mundial, pero a la larga, la base de aficionados crecerá. Y con el dinero que tenemos, nos convertiremos en una potencia en poco tiempo porque Estados Unidos es una potencia en todos los deportes excepto en el fútbol, donde no tenemos un solo jugador entre los mil mejores de todos los tiempos porque no tenemos competencia. Sin competencia, nunca se mejora.
Acabamos de regresar a una Copa América después de 8 años. Eso es bueno y creo que lo jugaremos siempre de ahora en adelante. Pero sólo hemos jugado 5 Copas Américas de las 40 que han existido en 100 años. Jugamos un Mundial cada cuatro años y luego pasamos cuatro años jugando amistosos y partidos de bajo nivel contra México, inventando mil torneos que a ningún verdadero aficionado al fútbol le importan. Juguemos Copa América, Eliminatorias Sudamericanas y tengamos un entrenador que conozca el fútbol sudamericano.
@@Apolo810every sport is psychological. It’s difficult to say soccer is more psychological than other sport
To be fair uruguays goal should have never counted
Is that bloke contractually obliged to say US men's national team? Just say US mate, we know who you're talking about
Absolutely, because if he doesn't make the distinction the feminine brigade definitely sensors him on that woke bs
it's an unwritten (I think) law
It makes me feel like there should be a separate rival US Team...
US media is cucked to DEI rules
Keller just admitted that USA (don't call them USMNT, that's ridiculous. We don't call England EMNT or France FMNT) cannot go out and pay for a better coach because of the women's side. That in itself is just flat out ridiculous. If you're financially supporting this team you're a simp.
So I suppose every one of the millions of women here that support a men's team are what, lesbians? Last sentence is ridiculous, rest is true.
You mean the women team takes the priority?
Blaming the women's team for the corruption on the men's side is the easy way out. Its like when angry virgins blame feminists as the reason they're still single lmao.
I said the same thing. I'm so sick of pretending they're equal. Trophies don't matter. JV titles don't supersede the fact that the Varsity is the Varsity.
Exactly… the women’s team is the varsity and the men’s team is JV. World Cups > Gold Cups
Ref may have been horrible/corrupt/high/crazy but Team USA couldn’t qualify in a group with Panama & Bolivia
USSoccer is failing bigtime
I agree. Should have beat lesser teams,not playing people who want to play for the badge.
Probably high, but just as wasted as the ones from 01, 10, 13....
Our players are MMA WEAH. The fans decided more than B. It is what it is.
Rapid exits til these dudes retire.
I told the guys they're all winners in life for participating
You guys are just bad. Just admit it, the only team you can beat is Mexico that’s going through a generational crisis 😂😂😂
@@TheGlowingOneethis us team is the worst team in this hemisphere
I will not watch another USMNT match with Berhalter as manager.
Me too
Add me to that list. Trash 🗑
I’ll see you here in the comment section when he’s still coaching usmnt at World Cup 26
@@emazonreviews6269 Me too! I'll be complaining about getting grouped in a group with Georgia, Slovakia, and Venezuala, while a bunch of people will be blaming the refs, the players, trusting the process, and looking forward to Berhalter leading us to victory in 2030 because his xgs and underlying data in friendly matches are unprecedented.
I take um-bridge
Remember when pundits said USA would be in the final and were in the top 5 teams in the copa
Expectations aren't for the weak
I don’t know about them making a final but on paper they are a top 5 team in the Copa maybe you can debate Ecuador but top 5 isn’t a reach. Neymar himself said that he believed that USA would surprise a lot of people in the Copa.
@@rlubin9356It is POSSIBLE to put the US at top 5, yes, but quite generous.
Sure, the US could surprise people and go far, these things happen in football all the time, we saw what Morocco did in the last WC and the US themselves in 2014, but it wasn't something expected.
This was brought up in the Spanish broadcast, but Jürgen K made it to the Semifinals of the Copa America with Zardes and Bobby Wood up top. For all the shortcomings towards the end, Klinsmann got results
The US Federation really needs restructuring and the coach change should be a no brainer.
payola is too big...corruption and good old boy network runs deep...fire everyone. top- down
Yea and the players have to be about 3 levels better 😂
@@tonyvilla3 they are decent players, decent enough to get out of that group IF managed properly
I'm Colombian. And I vouch that if USA was a serious futbol nation, Gregg would be gone by the end of the hour. We would be here debating who to hire next.
exactly we need Pep Guardiola
They are now serious nation. lol you can see in the video. The problem is federation they want to hire friends and family for the job. Same bs like in Mexico because in the end for both USA and Mexico they only care about there sponsors making the fat profit.
@@Tito-bv6omaunque traigas a Guardiola, a klopp, a rinus Michels y a tuchel, no va a servir para absolutamente nada porque no tienen jugadores.
@@Tito-bv6omlol no you don’t. The guy who should be your coach is out there getting Canada out of their group 🤷🏻♂️
Why don’t you just state your opinion only without saying where you from? why do you have to say “I’m colombian” ? Ive started to see this several comments by colombians stating that same thing first Lmao is mad annoying is like you want people to know where you from like your opinion is gonna have more weight bcus you’re from your nationality Lmaoo Is Not like you’re a Big team, you never been a Big team, you won Nothing, all y’all have is marketing about reggaeton and money hungry girls sleeping American men /tourists with scopolamine and robbing them
What "golden generation" is Casey talking about? A squad full of mediocre players.
LOL they are actually that deluded to think Zidane would even consider managing USA team.
When he's waiting in the wings for France or real again
I nearly spit my coffee when I heard that. What a joke.
If Messi can come to the US, then Zidane can come to the US. I'd rather have Klopp, if we are allowed to dream.
Quite literally ANY coach would come here if they are paid enough. Look at all the European players that have come to mls because of money and they like the idea of living in America for a couple years
@@ortforshort7652 Thats not the same - Messi comes to US because he is at the end of his career and given his paycheck nobody from Europe big clubs would offer him contract. Zidane can have almost every job he wants - Manchester United wanted him, Bayern Munich wanted him and obviously he is waiting to see what happens with France since he is the obvious candidate. Zidane doesnt need money and is not interested to taking any job. They could have a shot at Mourinho, I think, but it what this guy says is true and they cant offer a lot of money for a coach, then there is no way they get someone like that.
Had we beaten Panama we wouldn't be in this mess! Berhalter MUST be fired!
GGG deserves heat, but don’t let Timothy Weah off the hook for channeling his inner Draymond Green and getting thrown out.
I agree. But was that game just his fault?
Tim Weah. Made a huge mistake. And I agree the mentality needs to be better. New Manager please.
GGG? golovkin 🥊🥊?
Hey I don't wanna get sacked
As a British person I never believed the moniker that this current generation is the strongest US generation. They are the most technical because they are the first generation to emerge from the MLS and world academies system. I don’t see a McBride, Dempsey, Claudio Reyna, Beadsley,, Howard, Friedel or Donovan who were stars in their top 5 league clubs.
A lot of people say they have more Americans in big European teams, but I think this is because European clubs see the commercial value in American players now, which wasn’t the case before. It didn’t go unnoticed in the Europe that when Pulisic joined Chelsea, the Premier League TV contract increased by four times it’s value in the USA, so big clubs are buying Americans to increase the value of their TV rights in the USA. There is also a lot more American owned teams in Europe now, and American owned teams tend to buy Americans for commercial reasons too. So,I think more Americans in top 5 leagues is more to do with commercial value than quality.
I also think US trying to play this technical passing game, just makes the USA easier for big teams to beat. USA players are not at technically gifted as the players from the top nations who don’t have pay to play and have a street soccer culture that produces more technical players. Let’s be real Pulisic the so called greatest American player ever, would not start in the French, Spanish, Brazilian, Argentina, German, Portugal or even the England team. Why is the USA trying to play passing technical game other countries will always be superior than them at? That is why this generation not had any major wins against big teams like past generations. The traditional strengths of the US players were defensive organisation, grittiness, work rate and raw athleticism. But does the USA have those players with all MLS academies teaching American kids tiki-taka football? The USA should be playing to these strengths. Klinsmann gets a not of criticism in the US soccer media because he called out American soccer problems and there were people in American soccer waiting for him to fail when he was US coach because he wanted to shake up the status quo and a lot of people in US soccer have vested interests to keep things the same. But I still think his USMNT was the strongest USA team I have ever seen, who would regularly beat big names home and away because they what they were good at and what they weren’t good at and played to these strengths.
Truth
Exactly. Benchwarmers, good for selling jerseys.
Might not agree with certain aspects of what you said but overall, agreed. This team is soft smh
I'm English and think the Bob Bradley era US team for me was the best team they've ever had, and it's not even close. Superior athletes. Nobody could outwork them and they had great never say die fighting spirit. That's really difficult to play against and they got results against bigger teams and were up for the fight in CONCACAF away games which the current team often isn't. Soft underbelly, though the one thing they do have going for them is they are better than the rest of CONCACAF with this weak Mexico side and they win the CONCACAF trophies consistently.
Informative. Good take 👌
Ali knows a lot about South American football. Yes, you don't play rough with Uruguay. They will do you in. That's their bread and butter.
I’m from the U.K. but I’ve long followed the USMNT as I have family across the pond. Berhalter has to go and I have a lot of respect for these pundits telling it how it is.
Herc Gomez is a great guy, by the way. I interviewed him and his brother Ulysses when the latter was making their UFC debut back in the day.
US lacks good dribblers in the goal area, that is usually the strikers' job. Another thing, long range shooters. Roberto Carlos, Edwin Saavedra and William Ferreira. Watch their long range amazing goals. US does not have that.
Pathetic to try to put this on the Panama loss or Weah alone. The U.S. went up 1-0 with ten men and still conceded 2 goals. Gregg has failed to make adjustments time and again. Its time to move on.
I agree but disagree. They went up with in minutes of the red card. They still had almost 70 minutes left to survive with a man down.
@@Young_Midoriyateams with a Man down are notoriously difficult to score against Panama scored twice against them,
@@od9694where did you get that? lol every time I’ve seen a team with a man down play with half the game or more left to play they lose.
@@BigSuzpektfacts
@@BigSuzpekt You hunker down and play with one forward and counterattack. Very bad coaching with the US up 1-0.
Berhalter is the b version of what Southgate is for England; the textbook example of what a bad manager (not coach) can do to a talented team. Managing elite talent/personalities is like driving a $500k car, just because you know how to drive, doesn't mean you know how to drive all cars. Makes you appreciate an Ancelotti, Guardiola or Mourinho. Sports travesty when generational talented teams (I know the US and England are on different levels), like what Belgium was, are ruined by incompetance at the high levels of the organization. Oh, and Roberto Martinez has the infinity stones for failing up.
So true 😂😂😂
Yea Roberto Martinez will probably be the FA's choice to replace Southgate. 🤦♂
Get Klopp! Never thought it would be possible for a German manager to be England boss but people will accept Klopp. Even if we win the Euros it will be because we didn't face a comparable team until the final. Southgate's done well and deserves credit but we have far better players now than we had when he got the job.
@@a-walpatches6460 Martinez has an FA cup and plays ambitious football despite his flaws....that's still a thousand mile upgrade on Southgate
@@gambit0913 Southgate has a far superior tournament record than Martinez has with comparable teams. No thank you!
And yet he got the team to the finals of the last Euros
US soccer truly shows that they are more concerned with Pride than to win games.
The most interesting point of this video is them actually mentioning how much the men’s team is now anchored by the women’s team. It is such a big deal that is never talked about. Bravo for these guys to actually bring this ridiculous pay structures to light.
I remember an interview when an American TV anchor said that Pulisic is the same level as Messi😅
😂😂😂
Wonder which anchor that was...he/she needs to get his/her footballing eyes checked. 🙄
Pulisic wouldn't even start on most WC teams, or likely wouldn't even make the squad.
@@edlawn5481totally untrue. He’s play for North Korea.
Free-dom of speech
They're acting like the US is a big team
Every nation's team is a big team for its fans. Period.
@@TT-fq7pli live in NY and have never met another grown man who cared about US soccer lmao lots of hispanics love to rep it just cause most SA teams are hot garbage but yea nobody cares about US teams and it shows 😂
@@Insideman666 Well, if you haven't met one, I guess they don't exist. That's logical.
@@Insideman666 Are you implying that Hispanics never become full grown men? Or that you have just never met one?
The US is big when it comes to manufacturing fake corruption cases when they don't get to host the World Cup they feel entitled to.
Uruguay beating USA predictable Panama beating USA unpredictable 😂
Uruguay beating Usa was predictable but winning or tying against Panama should’ve been the result
USA losing predictable 😂
Panama just better than USA
@@panama8009 quiet now, Americans don’t like facts
I was surprised when when I found out they couldn't hire a big coach because the woman team sued the federation. So now they have to pay the same salary for both coaches for the men's and the women's team, seriously? Football is a sport about who brings the most money to the table, not about equality
So you're blaming women for the men's team not sacking Berhalter? Well, that's certainly a take. A bad one, but a take nonetheless.
Berhalter is literally paid more than Belgium and Spain's coaches. A quick 5 minute search shows this has nothing to do with hiring a good coach.
How is this a golden generation? The US went into the 2006 world cup ranked #4 in the world, this generation is trash
The 2002 Generation made it to the WC Quarterfinals! The 2010 Generation won the Group! The 2013 Generation set the longest win streak, beat Germany and Italy in Europe and made it out of the Group of Death!
I play video games. I don't believe in noobs getting titles like "Golden Generation" without proving themselves. I don't know if that's how it is in real life, but it should.
I’m Mexican but I think if Clint Dempsey and Landon Donovan generations would have played this game it would have been different result.
@@juliobello4561 Donovan had football in him. He carried those teams to make miracles. I know nothing about his career in LA Galaxy (I'm from Spain), but with the national team he was something worth watching.
It isn't.
@@TrainerAQplease don't say that they beat Germany when it was only a friendly match. Have you forgotten that it was Germany who beat USA in the Quarterfinals 2002 and we also beat you in the group stage 2014. Friendly is not comparable to real matches
Kasey is definitely berhalter friend
same barber
@@brianbunker2150lmao
I’ve had dinner with kasey Keller, it’s sad to see him defend berhalter
What can I say? He's my guy
No, my child, but I'm sure you haven't been paying attention so it's expected.
No Golden generation yet.
We are not developing young players, in spite of having 3 million kids playing the sport. Our system requires kids to pay lots of money to play in the top clubs, only to be trained inadequately: twice a week with useless never-ending tournaments, never focusing on individual skills and talent.
Copy what works: Uruguay, Argentina; all clubs have kids of all ages train daily and move up through the ranks, focusing on perfecting skills, technique and mental toughness. And if kids with talent dont have the $$ the Clubs sponsor them
I hate to sound like this (Im chilean) this is ONLY a learning experience for the United States... the discipline its there the passion its there I love you USA... But this is Copa America... Los Charruas (Uruguay) they DO NOT mess around. Even European beasts like Germany Spain and England fear playing with South American Nationals..because we are tough and rough.. Its a learning experience. Dont understimate south americans...mexico its constantly learning of this aswell...this is NOT" copa ORO"
Nobody in the world thought USA would win the Copa America , what are they talking about right now???
In fairness, It’d be pretty tough for an American team To win the euros.
@@markislivingdeliberately have you seen the euros I think Brazil Uruguay and Argentina would go far
They can't win the AFC Asian Cup or AFCON as well. Other than the Gold Cup, nobody expects them to win anything else.
Some USA fans thought they would. That says their level of dilusion 😂
The yanks always think their mediocre and overrated football team can win it/go far.
They can't accept that south America and Europe will always be better at this sport.
If you want to play on a world stage, go to the world stage.
Leave the us to play at hostile grounds.
Visit argentina, Uruguay, Europe…
Get tough playing there and get some results.
Always hosting the gold Cup and playing teams from the caribbean islands leads to nothing.
Not to mention that this copa america is in the USA, if they bomb out of the world cup too then they are finished for a decade with this many wasted opportunities even though they aren't particularly good
gonna be hard to do that. I think the powers that be want the us team to play at the gold cup. it's all about money.
The worst part is the "players" wanted berhalter as their head coach, and that explains why they have no conviction or fight. This whole squad is a disaster.
One thing I don’t understand is, if the US thinks they can no longer win on the women’s side without coaching expertise from England and Spain, why aren’t they doing the same on the men’s side?
The men’s team is in a much tougher starting position to begin with. Didn’t start out as giants of the sport and trailblazers but rather started from behind. And also face like 3x the amount of competition, because there are many countries that are elite on the men’s side that don’t pose much of a threat on the women’s side yet. Like almost all of South America for example.
Berhalter needs to be let go. The women’s national team doesn’t accept losing. Other countries don’t accept losing. Why should the USMNT team accept losing? Maybe because of who Berhalter’s brother is and his position with US Soccer?
Because your team is not good at all and your domestic league is a joke. Therefore you won’t have the players to win all the time. Would a good coach help? Sure
USWMNT and USMNT both eliminated 16 Round, dudette. I am no fan of either camps, I attended a Hamm game, it was awesome. Everyone power?
@@PeterPan-ht6yl Lots of good national teams don't have good domestic leagues.
The players should be also held accountable, they need to improve.
@@kevinsalinas1563 Or get replaced by players who want it more.
They made it sound like they beat a huge team when they beat Bolivia!
I know right! The worst team in the whole tournament! They couldn't even beat Panama
@@TrainerAQ Neither could the US.
They even were celebrating beating the likes of Trinidad or Jamaica 😂
Bolivia has lost 17 of its last 21 games, but they did bear Andorra.🤣😂🤣
Bolivia once won the Copa America. Ecuador n Venezuela never did. Bolivia beat Argentina 6 to 1. One time, Bolivia best Uruguay 3 to 0. During Samson coaching Bolivia easily beat US at home.
The commentator who didn’t know what a quick taken free kick is was absolutely wild to me. He kept saying ’he allowed play to go on!!!’, ’he touched it with his hand!!!’. My goodness. Commentators that don’t watch the sport…
Uruguay goal looked like a clear offside though, rough way to lose. Although for advancement it wouldn’t have mattered since Panama won.
As an Icelandic guy who lived in Oklahoma, I am amazed how little progress has been made in US soccer. I was helping out coaching kids ( around 2000 it was still " a dad and his friends job 😂 ) and we had😂about 50 to 60 kids in each age group. There was talent amongst them but I have literally not seen progress since KK, TH, Lalas, Joe Max Moore and Brian McBride!!!!
Pulisic haircut was not aerodynamic enough… 🙄
Darn 😮
Honestly, the US thinking they can put up a physical fight against this Bielsa team is crazy ! Uruguay isn’t considered the pitbull of S. America for nothing !
Uruguay struggled tbh
@Mgh_111. They didn’t, it’s just how they play. Uruguay scores and if they don’t feel the need to attack they rather defend and wait for the counterattack. They are known for tough defending, set pieces and counterattacks.
@@nnvihvuhvuhvuhvuh I think the is feel the game as very linear.. they dont understand about managing the games as is best for you.. get the foot out of the gas.. allow them to move forward.. attack, risk but trusting in your team so they expose.. managing the timing of the games.. they still have to learn that
@@Mgh_111 Uruguay were through and they played the exact game they needed too. The US needed a 2-0 win at the start of the game and didn’t even sniff a goal. Uruguay let the USA have the ball and they couldn’t do anything with it. Ale was right Bethalter and the players have 0 fútbol IQ
100% agree.
Let's be honest. No one expected the U.S. to do anything serious in this competition
Weah must never be called up again. That's not an adult.
that's crazy that they can't hire a top manager because they would have to give whoever is coaching the woman's team more money.
lmao it's so crazy that they're comparing women's sports to men's sports when one does not generate even close to the same amount of revenue and has nowhere near the skill level. let's stop pretending that women's sports is anything but a sideshow. I don't wanna be hurtful towards women who want to play sports, but at some point you have to face reality. it's fine for women's sports to exist, but it needs to stop trying to compete with men's sports in terms of funding when they don't generate revenue or play at the same skill level.
I don’t care how many world cups you win if you can’t beat a friggin under 16 squad of boys. The women don’t deserve a quarter of what the men generate in income.
The World Cup aint gonna be any easier than this... 5 years was 5 too many for Berhalter
Espn always talk about the USMNT like they are some big team expected to win international trophies
It’s the textbook American propaganda
They talk about england the same way...
@tonyvilla3 and it's not helping them at all 😂
KC’s point about the coaching budget and the need to match the salary on the women’s side shouldn’t go unnoticed. That equal pay decision was the first sign that this entire Federation is a joke.
Ale speaking facts lol
Don’t blame the players or just the coach, US soccer is a systemic failure.
Finally. Someone gets it. They blame the coach, their luck, the ref but the system is trash. The MLS next and MLS academy system is extremely flawed.
US needs to send their youth to Tauhichi soccer academy.
Exactly
Also, I think people forget, the USMNT in 2022 BARELY qualified for the WC after failing to in 2018. Lets not act like USMNT qualified easily --- they were tied with Costa Rica at 25pts for spots 3 and 4. Just not good enough.
The 94/95 team made it out of the group in the Wolrd Cup & Semifinalist in Copa America losing to a top Brasil 1-0 both games.
Panama is the only team in group C to score against Uruguay. You slept on Panama and you paid.
Panama beaten the u.s in the gold cup semifinal last year
Yes. The have improved tremendously the last 4 yrs for sure
@@gatsby456 they could get bounced by Colombia in the quarterfinals
@@Frankieefootballmundial of course. Let’s not get crazy. 😝
@@Frankieefootballmundial Yeah, but it's been a great ride for them.
Give Jurgen Klopp the $10 million he wants and give him the keys. It would be a huge move and it has the potential to flop but it’s way better than going into 2026 with this team as built and Berhalter.
YES!!! :D
if Klopp only wants 10mill they need to jump on that....
Can’t do that unless they’re prepared to give Emma Hayes similar money
You really think klopp would coach a team where they call it “soccer” ? 😂😂
@@SergioRamos-ir7mi yes. it is soccer. the people who invented the sport gave it the name soccer. britain only stopped using the word soccer because they're xenophobes who are very insecure about americans. with anti american sentiment rising after ww2, and the popularity of the word soccer rising in the US, britain went back to calling it football and stopped calling it soccer.
The entire US Mens program needs to be changed. Players, coaches and management.
Not being able to hire a quality coach bc u gotta match those wages w womens is absolutely absurd
True. Just reading this made me sick to my stomach 🤣
I didn't know that whatever the men's coach gets paid that they also have to pay the women's coach the same. So that means the men's team has to play with the equivalent of a women's team coach. Now the Berhalter hire makes sense. 😂
That means we are screwed. I don't see the men's team ever winning anything ever agin
😂😂
It’s not that bad. US Soccer pays Emma so much that it matches what most of your opponents pay their men’s coach. They might very well pay them less than what Emma is earning.
It’s only a few men’s teams that pay their coach real astronomical sums. Like England, Germany, France, Argentina probably. Panama hardly does or Uruguay either.
Or you can look at the Euros England almost lost to Slovakia and Portugal to Slovenia. They both pay their coach 10x more than what Slovakia and Slovenia can afford most likely. So coach salary isnt the be all end all. Lots of good coaches you can get with your budget.
But I agree that the USMNT has nothing to gain whatsoever from comparing itself to the USWNT in every aspect. It has to compare itself to other men’s teams. Just saying you don’t need to be in the top 5 % of highest paid coaches to be competitive.
So it’s not the ”equivalent of a women’s team coach”. Emma earns maybe 10x that of most well paid coaches in the women’s game, if not more. Only England comes somewhat close and it’s still 3-4 times more than Wiegman. So she’s not exactly the norm she’s the exception, because the US is a very rich federation. Women’s team also generate a lot more than other women’s teams.
Gregg would still be in the top 10 best paid national team managers at the euros so the gap in terms of money shouldn't be too much of a problem, you could definitely find a much much better coach for that type of money
This arrogant and overrated USMNT getting grouped in this Copa America is just football heritage🤣
Did you expect anything else 😂
This isn't the gold cup, this is the copa america lol mexico and U.S fans so shocked haha
@@seanmcguire6011Panama and Canada are the new top teams of concacaf for the moment
It’s disappointing????
You really thought you had a chance against a country that has 15 Copa America titles??
Didn’t Saudi Arabia beat Argentina in the last World Cup I mean you’re saying that like upsets have never happened before in football. Unfortunately under our manager we really didn’t have a shot.
Its almost like after the world cup they should have started with a fresh coach instead of hiring the guy with team baggage and a competitive record that looks like a draw is the objective
The referee was poor smh but the U.S. didn't have a chance 😅
Yea thats why the game finished 1-0😅😅
blame the manager all you want... the players aren't good enough. they clearly gave their best effort, but they lack quality and end product... and it was that way in Qatar as well.
But player pools in the US that were much less talented got better results. There are plenty of results and tournaments in which the USMNT played better than the sum of their parts. This group has never beaten a team better than them. That’s the issue.
If that comment/agreement about 4x wage for men has to be same for women, the US is never gonna get better. They screwed themselves over
So for the first time, every starting USMNT player plays overseas instead of in MLS, but the USMNT retains an MLS level coach. Only as strong as the weakest link?
Panama new concacaf giant 😂🎉
Canada too. And they both rhyme
The US shouldn't feel too bad, Uruguay eliminated Argentina with Messi in Argentina and won the Copa America in 2011
They lost againt panama 😂that’s embarrassing dude. You want to accept a participation trophy huh
Uruguay, to be fair, could have played with more polish and won 3 to nil. The US are plucky, but with these guys, they seem not to have heart or any talent like our beloved Cobi Jones, Donovan.
That is to say, they are plucky and crazy and fly into tackles, then expect calls.
Hearing our fans complain about the ref is horribly sad.
13 years ago …..
2011, lol. Yeah I guess the US shouldn't feel too bad. Uruguay are 2 x world cup winners in the 1930s. Basically the same team
Different generation of players more than half of current Uruguay were academy players in 2011 😂😂😂. Uruguay was nice to USA Today because it could of been nasty scoreboard
Delusional USA fans think changing the coach will turn them into the dream team… THIS AINT BASKETBALL😂😂😂😂
They really are so naive to believe Zidane would even entertain managing the USA squad, lol.
Start by stop calling it soccer!!! 😂😂😂
Well to them it will always be soccer, "A sissy sport."
Association football is soccer. The vast majority of English speakers call it soccer. Australia, Canada, USA, South Africa, NZ- Soccer.
@@demarcdegasol The VAST majority of people call it 'foot'-'ball' in their own language.
So you don’t have an issue with the Italians calling it Calcio, Croatia calling it Nogomet, the japananse Saka, etc. the ignorance of people 😂
@@eddiegonzalez638 Those countries don't claim to speak English as a first language.
LOL Zidane?!?! He wants no one part of this fire.
Such a stupid question all the men laughed and smirked when she asked it 😂
Are we ever going to stop pretending our players just aren't good? There are better athletes in the XFL.
We also lack any decent soccer training infrastructure. We are as good as we're supposed to be.
Herc really nailed it today. I dont always agree with some of his takes, but he nailed it... They have never given us a big win, ever
Have to sadly admit USA is not Uruguay level Uruguay has Real Madrid and Liverpool starters 😂 We need to invest to make world class strikers who can score for top class teams. We need to be the best in world soccer.
And even barcelona.
Edit:you're already the best at soccer ,not football.
But the issue is previous player pools have managed to punch above their weight and get results. This group has never found a way to beat a more talented side. USA made the semi finals of this tournament in 2016 with gyasi zardes up top at times. The issues run much deeper than talent.
@@RandomStuff0303Yeah they might have won against bigger teams.
But the real question is hw consistent can they be in winning against bigger opponents.
This current team has the potential,but it's almost as if some people in the US "Soccer" federation don't really hv the same ambition.Managers,technical team etc.
@@PANDORA3.0 totally agree. This team can’t even get one off big wins. They don’t have an identity. All they want is a “culture” of friendship to brag about.
you better off with your social delusion, and have them girls play as boys. You are clueless which is sad and laughable. You dont exist in football.
Perfectly fine hiring someone I've never heard of that actually knows the game and is a good fit. This guy knows how to prepare his team to play, no clue how to prepare them to win.
He is like Dunga coaching Brazil or Warzycha coaching Columbus.
The former defenders innovation was to severely limit offense, by selecting only one creative personnel per 11.
It's ugly to watch, so Americans like it, but early exits are what they are. Skill is beauty, we Americans hate it, but skill and beauty win in football, and we fly home.
The US suck at losing. Cried the whole tournament. Lost their heads. Too much entitlement.
Recall when analysts predicted that the United States will make it to the championship game and rank among the top five teams in the Copa?
The US was so arrogant where do they get this from. 😂
Cuz they win concacaf all the time as if it's a strong region 😂
Because the U.S are actually rich and are a sleeping giant who can conquer the football world if they actually took it seriously
Well there best players plays at some of the top clubs in the world Milan, Juventus, Chelsea, Barcelona, Dortmund etc. For some reason they can’t play for the national team.
@@bryandelcid4065Bingo
@@bryandelcid4065😂😂😂😂 what u smoking i want some
Need money. Fucked themselves with the ridiculous pay structure.
Not being able to qualify in a group with frickin bolivia and panama is failure.
In order for the US to improve the first step is to stop calling the beautiful game "soccer". It's football
They had to qualify. Anything short of that must be treated as harsh as the other top teams in the world. The players did not step up at home. Refs sucked, but players didn’t perform to their standards. The sum of the team was not as good as the individual talent.
Dude we lost to a country with 3 million people. There is no excuse. We need to quit embarrassing ourselves
I am a player that born in USA but my parents are from Uruguay and Honduras. As a player I see many deficiencies in player training here in the USA. When I go to Uruguay, I see a very big difference. I have also played in Portugal and Spain, and it is another level. I think the big problem here is mentality. In Uruguay they instill in you, from the moment you start playing, the need to win. Also here, a lot of talent is lost along the way, the sport can be very expensive. When you are U13 you have to travel to many places if you play at a high level, and many cannot afford these expenses. The system development here IS NOT GOOD AT ALL!
Your problem is the coach. Nothing else at this point. You don't replace him with a world class manager, you won't join the rest of the world and you will have wasted a generation of exceptional talent.
What talent?! 😂😂.
Our problem is you toxic fans. I pass the vibe check. Ask the boys?
Hahaha the problem is everything players, Federación etc. USA does not have enough quality to win a top team
Where are you from sir? I'm curious.
@@GregTurdHauler toxic fans? what toxic fans?
Greg isn’t the guy, plan and simple.
People asking for a “batter coach” better understand that the USWMNT is the reason we can’t do anything
As a Canadian fan, I’m happy to see them out. At the same time, as the elation is wearing off, that was the most corrupt officiating I have EVER seen in football.
In what sense are you saying it's corrupt?
If it was corrupt Mexico would have been given the penalty at the last min vs Ecuador considering the fan base Mexico can bring in the stadium, come on its not gold Cup where they, always try to bring Mexico vs USA.
Referring is what should be referred too.
watch india vs qatar wc quali..it will chsnge your mind on officiating
You are right. The US team should of received at least 3 Red cards.
You guys will be out next. Canada is not good. Needed red cards in both games to advance
@@boradrthe offside “goal”, the “advantage-played” yellow card, Adams yellow card for being tripped, and the official refusing to shake Pulisic’s hand after the match come to mind.
Men's team, USMNT, the men's national team... as long as they keep calling it that absurd way... Folks, no one in the world is going to make a mistake when they turn on the TV if a game is from the "men's" team or is from the women's team.
Why the f*ck do they even have to call it that?😂
Because the women's team us better and more popular.
@@pglanville just in the USA...
@@pglanville The USA was a pioneer in women's football - without going into the reasons - to the point where you were basically the only country in the world with a semi-professional training structure (reaching the NCAA), which is why the USA always won, because no one, and i remark, no one, in the rest of the world cared one bit about women's "soccer"/ football. so, taking to much pride in the successes of the women's team is as absurd as if today the USA patted themselves on the back for being the world's best American football (NFL style) team (you are the only country In the world where is played).
In the last women's World Cup, the US team was far behind, despite continuing to be the team with the most funds, the most support of all kinds and the greatest sponsorship. And in Spain, which was the champion, I'm already telling you that no one, no one was interested in the slightest, there were no celebrations in the streets, no bar had the games in the tv's and for the vast majority of the population, it was an anecdotal event with no major relevance, because despite being a country where football is a passion, almosr no one cares about women's football and the little attention it receives, is more for political/ideological reasons than for a real fan base.
@@FedericoPrieto13 I'm surprised there are people who even watch women's football lol. Here in South Africa the rest of Africa to be honest no one watches it even women.🤣
Fire the coach within 24 hours and tell the fans we will start our search for a replacement immediately. This was an embarrassing display.
When US cricket team's performance in the Cricket World Cup is better than US football team's performance in a continental cup..😅
US Soccer put themselves in a bad financial situation because they are cowards and caved to please the women's team. The men's side is now an amateur team and can't hire a big name coach. What a joke?
They can hire a big name but won’t. Pathetic.
Agree with you. Maybe the woman team will see how much they harming the USA man team and agree to do some minor changes to the contract. All in the good for the nation right! Being sarcastic by the way!!
Right let me keep my job it's those pesky womans fault. How dare they have the nerve to show us up by winning World Cups and stuff. They're supposed to be shoveling along the same way we do on the men's side. I'm the man for 2026.
@@JG-mg3if The women can actually win though.
@@joeyeisenzimmer5374 I know that! The woman are top class but that’s not the point. Then man team is bringing most of the 💰. Now they are handcuff because they can’t spent big money on coaches etc. You have to spend big money in the world stage of Futbol and ring now the man national team is fighting the financial side with one hand tide behind their back!
Let's be real this ref was absolutely TRASH! Also Berhalter is absolutely TRASH too! lol both things can be true
Nah, y’all just suck! Mckennie looks like he had too much cheeseburger and they still have him in the pitch.
I'm sorry but blaming the refs is a cop out. Even if the goal was offsides, that's a draw and we still don't advance. They need to come out on fire to get ahead of Panama in goal because there was np way Bolivia was going to help us out. With all that said, the had no urgency from the beginning
@@WingWingHerro thats just his body type tho... hes always looked like cheesburger man
@@WingWingHerroso did Wayne Rooney. the pt being looking like you had a cheeseburger does not make you a bad player. Mckennie is good enough
USA has always been trash. Have the alphabet delusion put the woman as men and maybe you´ll make the news, never perform better. You dont exist in football