Exploring the Existence of Being
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- In this discussion exploring being and existence a questioner says that when she asks herself the question, ‘Am I aware?’ she always feels unsure of the answer. She says she feels it’s because of her ingrained scepticism that she doubts her own experience.
Rupert says It's very good that you're so sceptical and that you doubt everything. But in order to doubt anything, there must be being, because doubt is. If there is doubt, there is being. The fact that doubt exists, is itself the evidence of being.
The fact that you can say there is an appearance means there is something. And if there is something, something must be - you couldn't have something in the absence of being. Now, if we can say that with absolute certainty, being must be known. How could we assert that being is, if being is not known? That's based on undeniable experience. Just ponder that. Don't jump to conclusions. Don't believe anything I say. But don't let your scepticism run ahead too quickly.
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0:00 Am I Aware?
1:57 Referring To ‘i’
2:48 Exploring Being
3:59 The Experience Of Being
4:58 The Only Fact Of Experience
6:12 Being Is Not In Doubt
7:30 Does Something Exist?
9:45 Proof That Being Is
10:50 The Only Certainty
11:29 Being Must Be Known
12:52 A Beautiful Koan
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Ever patient Rupert ❤
It is a superpower of his that's for sure
There's no Rupert ❤
The room deserves apraise too.
I admire that patience too
@@phantomhawk01😂😂😂😂😂
This is the best Rupert video I have seen yet. Her reticence to answering his questions is the characteristic of most people’s minds. She’s just way more honest than most
So patient is Rupert.
Beautiful. I can relate to this young lady's mind. I spent the first 37 years of my life telling anyone who would listen that 'science disproves all this new-age nonsense.' But then I decided to REALLY dive into science only to find that there is very little friction between the two. I wonder if anyone can relate to this roller coaster I seem to be on lately? I'll listen to Rupert in every free hour I have. His words resonate and make me 'remember' what and who I truly am. I'll meditate and investigate. Then three weeks pass by and I fall back into unconscious 'living'. It always ends in disaster and after a month or so, I'm back here again. I guess it's part of my 'journey' and I do feel like the unconscious 'drifting' is getting shorter in duration.
Rant over. God bless you all.
I get what you have written only the hardened mind brings this aspect of phenomena forwards. Cheers
I can relate very much with what you've written. Reality is nonlinear but all paths share common markers like the ones you're describing. Unconscious 'drifting' happens less and less 'here' as well. All the best on your journey, we can't fail either way :-)
"Guarda roupa cheio não cabe roupa nova." Do Brazil, com amor e carinho❤
Like the other commenter stated, the periods of returning to unconsciousness happens less and less as spiritual insight is integrated into our “normal” and everyday experiences. What you are going through is very typical of a spiritual awakening!
I can fully understand what you are writing. The challenge is to be aware the whole time 24x7. But I guess that this is really not very easy.
It's interesting because hurdle #1 is actually the last hurdle as well, perhaps the only hurdle.
This is turning the light of awareness inward or "Vipasana." Sustaining (stabilizing) the question is "Shamatha."
Ultimately the two are recognized as one moment called being.
Thanks for hanging in there Rupert 🙏
This is a good example of skepticism which denies everything except its own persistent doubt. She has full confidence in her doubt and chooses not to doubt her doubts. A true skeptic on the other hand doubts the doubt as well as the doubter. When you question every thought, you are left in a state of total confusion, which then brings you to silence.
Go on Miss. One last step!
This kind of profound questioning of reality may also lead to madness.
wonderful
When Rupert asked her to be silent, I achieved Nirvana.
When you posted this I achieved cutting thru b.s.
When we speak of existence, we must acknowledge the existence of nonexistence. I think this young ladies skepticism is based on the realization that when using language , existence is just another concept to be questioned. In many ways her dubiousness of an " I " has her ironically on the right track.
Non-existente must exist. Great analysis. We can’t go beyond Existence.
It's alright, Ma, it's life and life only.
The statement “I don’t know” is a claim of knowledge - the knowledge of one’s existence, of the question, and of not knowing the answer.
Yes, but this is sophistry. A person saying “I don’t know” in response to some question is saying they don’t know the answer to that question. They’re not saying that they don’t know anything at all.
Rupert is sooo patient. I just wish the young woman would take a few breaths to let his answer come in perhaps even sink in a little. She seems filled with resistance. Just listen young lady and be silent for a koment
Reactive mind is STRONG...
A Real Teacher , full of patience , Love and Understanding 🙏
Fantastic video. A few of my thoughts…
It sounds like this person’s skepticism could potentially be also a case of being lost in thought. For example, the skepticism is saying “how can I really know X?” That’s a thought. What is experience without reference to thinking about it?
Additionally, skepticism needs to be pointed at itself as well. We can be skeptical that it is possibly to know anything absolutely. However, true skepticism would allow for the possibility that we CAN know something absolutely. We don’t know whether we can or can’t. So, we’re open to both possibilities.
Additionally, the questioner may rightfully have problems with asserting absolute truth to any concept formulated via language. I sympathize with this, and tend to agree. For, language and symbols have all kinds of limitations and are not the thing itself. What do you *really* mean by “being” and “is”, etc. And yet, it’s all we have to talk about such matters. ”If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?”
We can doubt everything about experience, except the experience itself. You see a red car in a dream at night, and you can rightfully doubt its reality. But the ineffable qualia we may call “the subjective experience of seeing a red car” is beyond doubt. It is empirically true.
Further, it’s a great point that not only is there the subjective experience, but we can only be absolutely sure of its being due to the knowing of it. That was a profound point and deserves much contemplation.
Peace and blessings to all ❤
This is why Rupert is one of the most incredible people I have ever met. So grateful ✨🙏🏼✨
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone with that fundamental level of resistance to such simple logic and evidence of experience. Rupert was masterful at holding her hand in getting through that.
After the session the girls mind goes: So there is something and something that knows and something that knows that something knows that there is something and something knows all the previous and I AM watching all off this😂
Rupert once again brillant with a powerful, subtil being mind...
In truth this episode is the very first existencial question of all
Human being❤ thank you Rupert....
That there is doubt to experience is evidence that there is something to experience that doubt. And who is that one experiencing?
Brilliant work.
I appreciate the questions being asked. Have struggled with the same skepticism and confusion. Do I really exist? How can I be sure? Now I am thankful for the way Rupert explains stepwise and gives an opening to possibly help realize what 'I' is. Grateful to both, the questioner and to Rupert. Only wish this interaction did not end so soon.
The question was very valid. Nothing was really explained by Rupert, other than trying to point the questioner to the knower of illusions, which Itself has to be illusory by his own beliefs and definition of consciouness.
One can never be too careful when it comes to the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
@@joajoajbYou missed the point. Even illusion is _something_ . Hence there is being.
Why do you have to be sure? Lol, these type of questions are absurd to me. Personally, I don’t try to ”solve” life or make it into a problem. I just treat it like the great mystery it will always be. And aleast to me that gives great joy and fulfillment. And in happiness one doesn’t care weither one exists or not. The question doesn’t aply to life. So there is no answer to it. Closest to truth would be to say that you both exist and not exist, and at the same time you’re beyond those distinctions. Same goes for existence itself, it’s all one. But in the end, no words can ever express truth, so this answer is complete nonsence as well. In fact no one ever know what so called truth is. And I don’t even understand what the word ”truth” suppose to mean in the spiritual realm. But you can indeed feel great intimacy with existence when mind is silent. I guess that is what ”spiritual truth” means. It’s a ”thing” to experince, to feel. No way mind can grasp that. The so called truth resides outside the realm of mind. ❤️😊
@@youssefalaoui4286 I'm afraid you have not understood the question properly just like Rupert.
The questioner was making a very valid point. What she was saying, is that, since, everything we know can be illusory, in the sense, that, We never really get to know the thing Itself.
Rupert hastily proceeded to answer without properly understanding the question.
He immediately pointed her to the pronoun "I", signifying and pointing to the knower of these illusions as the " I" or real, which Itself has to be another illusion, according to his own definition and belief of consciouness. He's totally unaware of this fallacy with his beliefs.
He's been saying all these years, claiming, that, consciouness, being infinite, can never know anything finite such as all thoughts, feelings and perceptions, only to turn around and try to point the questioner to the knower of these illusions as being real, which Itself is false by his own definition of consciouness. It's a self defeating belief. When he says Being, he means that, which is aware, that, which knows the thoughts, feelings and perceptions. But, that knower is illusory by his own definition of consciouness.
Rupert shows a strong tendency and the impression that he wants to play the teacher, a teacher that always knows more than thou, whomever, or whoever he encounters, even if it's the Buddha. That's why it's almost impossible to imagine Rupert, starting every dialogue with something like " well, I really don't know, but, I can give my best shot based on my own experience and my own interpretations " or something to that effect.
It may not help him sell more books and retreats, but, at the least, it can certainly make him and his beliefs and claims look far more honest.
One can never be too careful, if it concerns one's Absolute True Nature or Existence as Is in Itself.
@@snickaren111 Hmmm... I understand your point of view intellectually. But for me it does not resolve the 'who am I' question experientially. Thanks for your reply. Stay happy.
Brilliant! Another masterpiece! Thanks for sharing Rupert!
She doesn’t doubt her own scepticism. So this is the minds final standpoint for her. She holds to a projection of what total beingness is and this blinds her to the experience.
The doubt is known....
She's literally telling him "no self" and he's insisting that there's a self.
She is right, she doesn’t exist, no thing exists, all apparent appearance is the activity of awareness/knowing/consciousness/God/I am/I, isn’t this what Rupert usually teaches?
Wonderful teaching ! 🙏
Pain is a very sure indicator of the existence of I. I think we are too comfortable, and this perhaps allows this kind of over analysing and lack of intuition. This young woman seems lovely none the less and I hope she finds peace and joy.
Great observation😁
I need more supply of that Humble pie. The cheat code❤️🔥 is reveling in humility. I used to curse God for what seemed like purposely humbling me to begging him to never stop. And never let me feel arrogance. I find myself throughout the day remembering and sometimes I have to remind myself that EVERYTHING Good about me comes directly from SOURCE and EVERYTHING bad about me comes directly from me as a personal individual.
Very good question and one that is hard to articulate. She did very well.
I understand her. This demonstrates the power of beliefs and deep conditioning. We simply need to check in again and again and again with our experience until the "mind" accepts certain direct and otherwise obvious aspects of our direct experience❤.
This clip reminds me of the bit "Who's on first". 😊
Maybe it's the re - "membering" of experience that perpetuates this tiresome continuous loop.
Maybe one should forget and land in the moment. 💙
There is only being.
This is a perfect example of how this understanding needs a certain degree of development of the ego. The ego can be released only when it is mature enough.
This is really an amazing and fantastic video, thank you very much for it. It is extremely interesting, because in order always to be aware of our existence, we need to feel it. It is not a solution to know it mentally like ok I am breathing that's why I exist. Sometimes in my opinion it is not so easy, especially in uncomfortable situations. The ability always to be aware, not only in situations, which we like and enjoy, is the highest level- meaning it is the highest state always to be aware independent of the situation.
How so sweet ❤
It takes being to feel just being if not anything else.
Beautiful!
the legend of doctor spira full of wisdom , i could listen to him for hours
Experience by the Heart!
Please say yes...priceless...humour keeps it light
This is brilliant
Doubt the doubt
I haven't got time to explore the existence of being because I've got too many things to do every day! And if they didn't get done then life would become even more of a burden than it already is!
You do it in experience life everyday
Without the existence of being would you be able to do the many things you do everyday?
Is doing the many things in life separate from the existence of being?
Whether the things in life get done or not are you still the existence of being?
Who hasn't got time to explore the existence of being. Does existence need time to explore it's own existence?
Without the thought "life would become even more of burden" who would you be?
Ponder these
@@bam2385 Yeah, but you have to admit that spirituality is no different from politics insofar as to become either a politician or a spiritual teacher you don't need any real qualifications or previous experience and you can word things in any way you want as to make them sound impressive, relevant and truthful. They both simply 'explain away' this so-called 'reality' with essentially meaningless words while 'the actual show goes on' according to the dictates of those who from behind the facade are REALLY manipulating/running it (and NOT in our own interests either!).
@@robinhood6954 realisation is an inner experience and has nothing to do with the outside world.
Ultimately it boils down to how badly do you want truth. If spirituality is only recreational or entertainment then you will not have any deep experience and everything will be superficial. If you really want truth then your own discrimination will be able to know the teachers who speak from their own true experience and others only from head knowledge with no experience.
If your earnest and put truth first in your life you will be lead to the right teaching or scripture.
@@bam2385 Interestingly enough I was led to it from an early age. I started with the Evans Wentz versions of the 'Tibetan Book of the Dead' and the 'Tibetan Book of the Great Liberation' etc., and later read 'The "Life Story of Padma Sambhava'. And it went on from there. Then I became more politically aware and realised that we've all been told porkies about EVERYTHING from the very beginning. ☝️
love it 💚
She will continue asking these questions until she realize that she can’t use the mind to find the ultimate reality of all existence.
Intellectual realisation of one’s true nature is very much possible.
@mindfulkayaker7737. I'm afraid that you have completely misunderstood the question. The question was very valid. Rupert never understood the question properly.
What she's saying is that, if everything we know are illusory, in the sense that we never really know anything for what the thing really is.
Rupert again hastily point her to the "I", or the knower of these illusions, which, Itself must be illusory by his own definition and belief of consciouness.
He has been claiming that, consciouness, being infinite, can never know anything finite such as all thoughts, feelings and perceptions. Only to turn around, to point her to the knower of these illusions as being real. It's a self defeating belief. He's very unaware of this.
Rupert also displays a strong tendency to play teacher to whoever, or whomever he encounters. As if he will always know more than whoever or whomever.
He gives out the impression, that, he won't hesitate to play teacher, even to the Buddha, if the Buddha happens to be in the audience. He's very unaware of this tendency in the psyche.
It's almost impossible to imagine Rupert, starting every dialogue with something like " well, I really don't know, but, this is what I have to say based on my own experience and my own interpretations.
It may not help him with selling more books and retreats, but, at the least, it will make him and his claims far more honest.
One can never be too careful when it comes to the Absolute True Nature of oneself and Existence as Is in Itself.
@@joajoajbi think what you might be alluding to is the paradox of experience. We are both knowers and un-knowers. We know deeply what Truth is, yet are completely naive to how that Source can possibly transmit it. I agree that Rupert could display more humility to ingratiate himself, but I don’t believe he “misunderstood” the question, I just think he’s transcended the paradox, or at least has accepted it, which the young woman doesn’t appear to be able to currently.
@@stevej.7926 The questioner was just being honest, not, pretending to know something ,when, she really doesn't. On the other hand, Rupert claims to know many things, when in fact, he really doesn't. If he's honest with himself, on many occasions, he could've just started by just simply and honestly saying " I really don't know, but, I can try ".
Rupert displays a strong tendency, wanting to play the teacher, a teacher that always, and will always know more than thou, regardless, whomever or whoever , he encounters. It wouldn't surprise me that Rupert would play teacher and preach to the Buddha , if the Buddha somehow happened to be in the audience. He's very unaware of this tendency in the psyche.
The questioner has a very valid point, and, somewhat, exposed Rupert's fallacy in understanding.
This is what happened between the questioner and Rupert.
She was saying, that, since, everything we know are illusory, in the sense, that, we really never get to know anything for what the thing really is in Itself.
Rupert without properly understanding the question, immediately trys to point her to the pronoun "I" , signifying and pointing to the knower of these illusions as being real. Not, realizing the fact, that the knower of thoughts, feelings and perceptions is another illusion by his own definition and belief of consciouness. Why so?
Because, he's been saying and claming over the years, that, consciouness, being infinite, can really never know anything finite, such as all thoughts, feelings and perceptions, only to turn around, to point the questioner, to the knower of these thoughts, feelings and perceptions, which Itself is another illusion by his own definition of consciouness. It's a self defeating belief. It's not a matter of paradox.
It's only a matter of claiming to know something, that, you really don't know. That's what Happened here.
All religious or spiritual ideologies are always born by those, who have a strong tendency to always claim to know things that they don't really know. Instead of just simply and honestly admitting by saying "I don't really know ". It's a trait normally found in fanatical religious mystics. their followers and preachers. And, they're not aware of these tendencies and impressions in their psyche.
One can never be too careful, when it comes to the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
@@joajoajb an interesting perspective, thank you 🙏🏻 and be well
This is the real teacher and is very interesting the doubt to know the reality
I think the lady is raising a genuine question and Rupert is somehow finding himself inadequate to answer it. I have heard truly realized people (this lady may be one herself) being unable to refer to themselves as "I" most of the time. They say "this body" instead. When such people are asked what will happen to them when they die, they usually say that they have always been here and will always be here. One lady (Amritanandamayee Maa) said, "Where can I go?" They just do not identify with the body, and this is the essence of Advaita Vedanta as well. The basic teaching is that our essential nature is consciousness, and it does not share the limits or the destiny of our minds and bodies. In other words, we are like the cinema screens on which movies are being played; the screen is not affected by anything happening on the screen (bombs exploding, fire, blood, gunshots, etc.).
She gave Rupert a gift, an opportunity to reenact the Cartesian insight-I think therefore I am. I doubt therefore I am. Savapriananda tells the story of the washerman who uses a diamond to clean clothing on a rock. Ignorance doesn’t recognize the absolute preciousness of the consciousness it is. That thou art.
A further Argument (borrowd by Francis):
There is something rather than nothing.
Is this true?
Yes, because of no human being ever could report credibly , that he/she had made an experience of "Nothing".
Because of to experience "nothing", there must necessarily be "something", and this is not "nothing".
Being is the essence.
Existence is the essence.
Before I even watch or read about this clip, I like to experiment to know I am of oneness mode.
There is a thing called the circadian body rhythm, whereas some guy sat around in observence and contemplation of Nature. There is a Chinese body chart clock, that when the 1 body is listened closely to, instructuons of the 'when' patterns arre revealed. 💙🌱
Of course, I come back to answer my own questions in the comments often. For who am I?, conversing with anyways buy my tru self.😊
Once again, it's a "what is memory?" inquiry. For I can only forget who I Am.
Maybe, it's the re-membering that make for a perpetual loop.
Maybe I should forget what I've been, because it's not of the NOW anyways.
.....all roads land at meditation, stillness, silence. 🎉
@@wattaura7621 I am on the edge of freewill but feel separate from oneness. Synchronicity
It’s easier start thinking that Being is, but from what I’m not, and then Being stands from direct experience. If he had asked her - if you are not this and that, then remsins only Being.
It is a beautiful question, yes we can doubt our experiences too .
❤️☀️🌙very sweet
Wow. I am not patient
Beautiful, Very nice, isn't there potential before existence?
The awareness with which you know that you are is the potential…prior to the thought I Am. Primary is that realization... secondary is the thought, the beginning of the story that appears and disappears in the I Am.
The question how do I know that I exist? will also spontaneously answer, who is it that dies?
It takes a very deep-seated habit of contrarianism in order to deny the one fundamentally evident thing, and i wish her speed in coping with it. I hope she asks herself who she is saving from error, and perhaps more importantly, why?
5:08 👌🏻✌🏻
She's aware that she's not sure that she's aware.
💛is lT Not Obvious that it lS the sense mind that Always entangle itself in its own confusion since the sense mind is of dualistc tendencncies.. and to S t e p out of the sense mind and it's tendencies of confusion lS to Be-Come STILL.. "Be Still and Know That l in the midst of thee AM God".. or That l AM The Living Reality of Y-our Being ..and That l AM lS The Formeless SPIRIT Not a thought Not something Tengible Yet The L🌅i g h t of The PURE Knowing , Hence to Be STILL lS to K n o w that l Eternaly AM .. without Nothing added🙏
Where is the rest of this conversation?
Is the answer analogous to "I think therefore I am"?
It is the same thought, dream, consciousness and illusory self that is thought to be, but it is nothing because it is only a dream in a thought.
If nothing exists and it is only a thought, is the thought real?
Consciousness is in thought along with dream, outside of that there is nothing but stillness, peace and silence.
thought and thought and between those two thoughts is nothingness, stillness, peace and silence.
If understanding comes, although in reality nothing has to come because you already are that.
Yes, i can make the experience of beeing. I feel, experience that there is something. But how can i experience that this is to be true even after death?
There is a fine line between skepticism and complete denial which then wouldnt be skepticism at all as shes not skeptic about her denials…
you can only experience everything as you are right now, 😅
Deniability is the first step to Death. This means you are too attached to temporary delusions. As they are temporary they are bound to die. In a way knowing yourself is to make this strong deniability more and more porous with self inquiry and experience. It’s okay to question but honesty is required if you are truly seeking. Otherwise it’s comforting your arrogance which only promotes ignorance further and hence the death.
I think what she is trying to say is that -- " I can't identify myself with this body or mind or anything inside the body" that " I can't find myself anywhere inside or outside" in that case, she would be quite right. Non identification of the I with body is a sign of spiritual advancement.
Imagine she’s an LLM or an AI agent. It speaks to you, follows the logic and reason but can not experience anything.
I still don't understand how this happened. She knew she was "being skeptical" right from the start. 🤷♂
Doubt is good but it need to be free from the leash… otherwise you turn into madness
I think, therefore I am
Very basic
Because she can’t label it, she THINKS it doesn’t exist 😂
I feel for her. She could do with some psilocybin, loosen the hold her mind has over her experience.
How Do I Know That I Exist?
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Seems to me that all is energy. The universe is an infinite field of energy.
So.......
The universe is infinite. If it wasn’t then somewhere out there all that dark space would have to become something other than space. What could replace the space? Nothing could replace it so it must go on forever - hence infinity.
What’s infinite has no boundaries and cannot be measured (or it wouldn’t be infinite.) Infinity doesn’t stop where “you” start - there can’t be infinity + “me.” So all there is, is infinity expressing itself in different shapes and patterns but all of those shapes and patterns never being anything other than THE TOTALITY or THE ABSOLUTE.
The experience of The Absolute is the experience of ONENESS - (That which we all desire whether we know it or not.)
Here’ seems to be the key:
95% of the universe is space. So if you want to experience ONENESS you have to include in awareness what 95% of the totality is! The space three or four feet around your body is EXACTLY the same space as the space a billion lightyears away! There is no place where the space here joins the space there. When you are CONSCIOUSLY aware of the space around you the experience is of ONENESS - which is all there truly is.
Seeing this and remaining consciously aware of the space around you is vital to your sense of wellbeing and your happiness. What you are is infinity appearing as a separate individual, but never being anything other than infinity. The only problem with being in this state is dealing with the constant stream of people wondering what you seem to be so happy about!
so......
IF YOU WANT A HAPPY FACE, YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE SPACE!!
I can’t take that woman anymore. I hope she’s honest about her skepticism.
Ever patient Rupert, indeed.
The questioner is very valid, in the sense, that, everything, we know is questionable. She has actually in a way exposed Rupert to further examine his beliefs, assumptions and speculations, which are being claimed as " The Absolute Truth of Existence ".
Rupert never understood the question properly, then, hastily proceeded to answer starting with the human language pronoun "I". He's not aware of the fact, that the pronoun "I" is a product of a certain language structure, not, to mention the fact that 99.99 % of all life form species, have never and are never using the language pronoun "I" including many humans who belong to different language structures. And, the fact that how little sleep they lose over, missing out on such sacred name.
Rupert's explanation was self defeating in the sense, he was again trying to lead her to the knower, or knowingness of illusions, which Itself must also be illusory by his own claims.
He has always claimed that consciouness, being infinite, can never know anything finite such as all thoughts, feelings and perceptions. But, he then trys to point her to the knower of these thoughts, feelings and perceptions, which Itself must be dismissed as another illusion by his own claim.
Nothing really was answered other than pushing a belief that is a self a defeating speculation, when, examined.
Rupert also, shows a very strong tendency, wanting to be the teacher, a teacher that,always claims to know more, regardless of whoever or whomever he encounters. Almost giving out the impression that, he'll even play teacher and preach to the Buddha , if the Buddha happens to be in the audience. He's very unaware of this tendency in the psyche.
It's hard to imagine Rupert starting every dialogue , with something like ' well, I really don't know, but, let me give my best shot, or something like, I really don't know , but, this is what I believe, based on my own experience and my own interpretations.".
It may not help him with selling more books and retreats, but, it would certainly look less ignorant, and ,far more honest.
One can never be too careful, when it comes to the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
But what Rupert is getting at is that there is one thing that is not questionable. The fact that something seems to be happening is the one thing we can be absolutely sure of.
We could be brains in vats, we could be in a simulation, anything. But the fact cannot be denied, that something seems to be happening.
That is what he is trying to explain to the questioner.
@@Asitismusic I'm not surprised you missed it. Looks like many did.
The lady questioner, maybe, unintentional, but, somehow ended up somewhat exposing Rupert's faulty belief and understanding, and, Rupert dug his own grave as a result, totally unaware of the fallacy inherent in his claim.
She was saying to Rupert, that, since, everything we know like thoughts, feelings or perceptions ,are illusory in the sense that, we really never know anything for what the thing really is in Itself, how is it that we can claim to know anything for certain? That was a very valid point to make, and, she was simply being honest with herself.
Rupert, not understanding the question properly, hastily proceeded to answer the question by pointing to the pronoun "I", signifying the knower of these seemin "something " . That's a self defeating belief by his own definition of consciouness.
He's been saying and claming over the years, that, consciouness, being infinite, can never know anything finite such as all thoughts, feelings or perceptions, only to turn around to point the questioner to the knower of thoughts, feelings or perceptions, which Itself is another illusion by his own definition of consciouness.
He's using a nonexistent illusory knower to claim that something seems to be happening as a certainty, which is a fallacy and faulty by his own definition and belief of consciouness. He was very unaware of the fallacy in the belief and the claim.
Many get lost, When Rupert does the word gymnastics.
Rupert has a strong tendency, wanting to play teacher, A teacher that always knows more than thou, no matter, whomever or whoever he encounters, even, if it's the Buddha himself. Rupert is very unaware of this tendency in the psyche. That's why it's almost impossible to imagine Rupert, starting a dialog with something like " I really don't know, but, I can try, or I really don't know, but, this is the best I can do based on my personal experience and my own interpretations '. Or, something to that effect. It will at least, make him and his beliefs and claims look far more honest.
One can never be too careful when it concerns the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
How do „you“ „know“ that „Rupert“ has a strong tendency …?
@@WalterLiniger How do I know? Very easy! Because , I see it.
Rupert has a strong tendency , wanting to play teacher, the kind of teacher, that, always and will always know more than thou type of tendency. He does that ,even to this best friend philosopher. A friend who seems to have a much more reasonable view than Rupert from all levels. His friend is actually a fierce warrior and will debate anyone. But, he usually let Rupert have his way, valuing friendship, which, Rupert is totally unaware of.
There's a clip, where, Rupert really blew off, when the questioner asked about ego. I mean, he really blew off. That really shocked many.
He told the questioner, that, he didn't want to hear one more word about ego. He doesn't like to be challenged. He's always one question away from losing his composer. Depends on the question.
Theses types of authoritative tendencies are usually found in religious preachers. But. They really not aware of these tendencies in their psyche. People like this, usually believe, that their views are absolutely right, and, others have to be wrong. Very common in religion and spirituality circles.
That's why, it's never a good idea, to mix any reasonable model of Reality, with, religious ideologies, beliefs or connotations. It's inevitably bound for self ignorance and self dishonesty, which are all forms of self deception.
One can never be too careful, if it concerns the Absolute True Nature of oneself or Existence as Is in Itself.
It's almost she wants to convince herself she is stuck... like here mind has found the ultimate defense mechanism 😅 if this was really what she thought or felt she wouldn't even have had the interest to investigate this, I think...
THE NAME OF IT , IS CALLED THE ISNESS OF SOURCE THE FABRIC OF CREATIVITY THE INFINITISM OF THE INFINITE FAMILY THE CO CREATORS OF THE UNIVERSE . IT SIMPLY JUST IS AND SIMPLY JUST ARE
or- exploring the being of existence....
even a mirage is real....its just not what it seems...😂
The lady Is lost. She does not know the fact that she Is
One can ask questions that are syntactically sound, but lack semantic validity. Such questions are nonsense.
“Nothing at all is justified by being “, Max Stirner,1844/2017 Landstreicher translation: “The Unique and Its Property.” Nothing to see here. The “creative nothing “ still as good as it gets.
when i say "I'AM" i experience my sex (male or female)
She is not listening at all, that is problem.
Yeah, her mind jumps in before Rupert's words have a chance to sink in...
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I think that this question has no ground and logic and her question confirms her illogical argue. Besides she seems to be impatient, interruptiv and simply annoying attendant in this dialogue with Rupert.
Existence is absurd to the rational mind. Even awareness is absurd and ungraspable. Why it has to be the way it is, itslef absurd. Its the theatre of absurdity. Hah! The awareness itself depends on the belief that it exist. If one beliefs it does not exist it won't exist. Even if awareness, independent of human mind, exists, it's ungraspable. We experience and not experience it at the same time. If one forces some one by asking "are you aware?' There has to be an answer. One just utters to say either 'yes' or 'no', not necessaily from any sort of 'knowledge' or experience, or intuition. Experience itself is undefinable... Thus there can be no 'certainity' in the answere of yes or no to the question, until one adopts it as a belief. It sounds like this yes or no answer to the question ' r u aware?' comes from a belief like any belief, when one holds it sound to be the only truth, it would appear to do so, otherwise vanish from the scene. Belief is the root of all 'evils' as well as existence, I guess. All this, still, a myestry!!
She speaks and does not listen.
I'm first
Great stuff. Incredible. Congratulations!
Yah
You are 1,..... I Am 1 would be more accurate.😊
Just sit back ... relax ... and realize ... NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR #1 ...
Young and very skeptical. Refuses to acknowledge her experience. Too much intellectualizing. As she grows older, her life experiences will overcome skepticism.
lady does not allow RS to speak
What's this all about? Are people trying to become bees? Sheesh. What's next.
This young lady knows too much for her own good. She, like millions of people make spirituality extremely complicated when they don't have to. First, listen to the teacher. He or she is the teacher for a reason. Secondly, get out of your own head and follow the instructions of the teacher. At that moment, they have knowledge and / or experience you don't have yet. Thirdly, practice operating by faith in what the instructor has given until you move from faith to knowing. "The unfolding of the word gives light"
Girl has a really strong reactive mind...hope she finds her 'way out'...
You only experience though knowledge. If you do not have the knowledge of experience, then there would not be an experience or experiencer. That "being" is within the framework of what I know. You cannot speak on "being" if their is truth of it somewhere. Impossible. This is all made up assumptions.
Zoomers…
She's in the wrong place. She needs a psychiatrist
So little respect to continually interrupt and talk over the person to whom you’re asking a question, while attending his seminar. I’m sure she’s a perfectly fine person but someone needs to talk to her about conversational manners.
Sounds like the blind leading the blind. And people pay money for this?
Don't watch if you don't like it. There's no one that I've ever watched that explains thing as well as Rupert. Yes, he struggled a bit with this one, but his ability to explain things is so on point. If you have people who explain things better in ways that make more sense to you, then great, go watch them. But don't trash Rupert and the way he explains things. I gave up on spirituality and all of this years ago, and then I found Rupert and came back into learning more about spirituality because of the way he teaches.
He's the blind one. She just needs glasses to see that a salesman like Rubert is only selling mirrors to the blind.
Sounds like someone is full of themselves...
Well Mr Zen Master, it sounds an awful lot like youre judging. Not particularly zen, I don’t think.
@@stevej.7926 He's Zen Master My Ass