In this video we try and clear up some of the confusion about the differences between water kefir and traditional milk kefir, both powerful probiotic ferments. Enjoy!
@@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions I couldn't either, but I started drinking ginger water throughout the day and this changed things for me. Now I can drink quite a lot of milk and milk products
In this video we try and clear up some of the confusion about the differences between water kefir and traditional milk kefir, bot powerful probiotic ferments. Enjoy!
I just purchased Kefir from Amazon as a beginner and originally thought all kefir grains were the same. I was originally wanting milk kefir, but upon delivery today, noticed that they were indeed water kefir grains. Thank you for posting this as it was very helpful and potentially avoiding a bad mistake when starting them. Sound like milk kefir is still much better, so will eventually try and get those going...in the interim water kefir will have to do.
I’ve watched number of videos on both kinds of kefir and actually make both currently and really enjoyed them. But this was definitely the most informative and “science based” of all the things I’ve seen so far. Thanks so much!
Both can be used to treat powdery mildew on plants as well as promoting a balanced micro biology in the soil when diluted 1 part lactobacillus 30 parts water.
This explains why I never see any disease and fungal problems, I inoculate a lot of healthy microbes in every part of my plants and I only ever have insect pests
Excellent information! I always thought I could use milk probiotics to ferment everything! Thank you for clarifying that up for me and avoiding an embarrassing mistake 😅👍
Helpful information put across in a no nonsense way thanks ... I sorted out my gut problems years ago with milk kefir was able to eat most things again but since becoming vegan have tried water kefir and didn't have the same affect, as a foot note over use of fruit smoothies caused the problem in the first place ...
Hi! I'm interested in using coconut milk (no other additives) with milk kefir grains. How long until/how do I know when to refresh the grains with cows milk?
even 2 sips of milk gives me diarrhae, but 1 cup of kefir is ok. good point about increased calcium absorption and the fact that it reduces lactose content difference beyween the strains is huge 50 vs 15. would be nice if we could kow the names of the strains thanks
Well presented. Thank you. Started drinking milk kefir yesterday, hoping it would help my bloating and digestion problem. I drink it before eating my first meal, which is usually in the afternoon.
@@mmmdazzagoodmemeayzzz7264 It's helping, but with a combination of other things, like salad, tea ( currently on peppermint tea, the dry leaves and it works amazing ). Am also on drinking wormwood tea, the dry leaves and it's also amazing.
That's a good question, i think you can, with stable feeding. And occasionally fasting maybe, if they don't feed only the strongest bacteria will survive.
Great video!!! I want to make Kefir and I am a newbie. Is there a difference using a starter kit as opposed to using existing grains? I would be doing it milk and not water. Thank you 😊
Some kits come with the things like a strainer to strain the grains from the milk. Grains are sold as dried or live. The dried grains can take many batches to rejuvenate and re-balance the yeast/bacteria. The benefit is they can be stored for a while in the cold section of a grocery store. I bought them once because it was the middle of the summer and the live grains may have arrived dead from being too hot during transit. I prefer getting normal grains shipped if possible. Besides that no big difference. The powder is not the same and does not have as many strands of bacteria and only last a few batches.
I just made both with the dried Kefir starter and the live grains both seem the same,I am a newbie at this too.The grains are supposed to be healthier.I would like to get a good ph meter and see the difference though.This is amazing though something I never knew about.I bought Keifer in a health food store a long time ago but a store product is different.
I wouldn’t wo treating it w ozone or something similar first, otherwise u risk potential pathogens in the well water like parasites ameba fungus bacteria 🦠 etc growing like crazy in the warm sugary water….that could be really bad
You are supposed to share them with friends when they multiply, so says kefir lore. Tibetan monks gave them to Mother Teresa of Calcutta as a gift. My neighbor gives them to his chickens for healthy eggs.
Good day! ☀️ thanks for this video My water kefir lately is viscous like gooey, and it ferments very slowly, it is 48 hours and it tastes very sweet, that happened the first time when I put baking soda to follow a recipe from someone and since that time it has been three batches like that, there is something I can do? At sight they look healthy and they bubble not sour Note: I add Lemon and raisins, I am making a large batch of 8 liters
If you added baking soda you may have neutralised the acids ability to drop the ph of the water. Maybe it will resolve over time or maybe you need to let it ferment till sour a few times and avoid baking soda
Melissa Orozco research more than one vid? lol. lemon is citrus and citrus is an acid and acids curdle milk.. it seems citrus doesnt kill the bacteria but ... ohh shit.. 1. "ferments very slowly" .. cant digest the curdled milk or digesting it slowly .. or 2. "viscous like gooey" did the bacteria process the lactose and sugars from the acid and curdled milk and turn it to .. diahrea 😂 or is that "goo" a defense mechanism to protect the bacteria .. orrr if you .. drank that stuff .. and are still alive you might have. PENDING SOME DOCTORS TEST IT.. HELLO.. it might be a new beneficial different kind of bacteria culture.. you drank that.. it dont smell like swamp? 8 liters of it ehh.. if you turn that cheesy ass movie "the blob" into prophecy so help me God... 😂
Mate, you are meant to add the baking soda in the bottling stage not the fermenting with Kefir still in and fermenting stage. Strain the kefir and add the bicarb soda, then pour into bottles. Also I love lemon and ginger the best. Cheers
Sonny, I know this question is a year old but one thing I have heard about honey, particularly raw honey which is the most nutritious, has anti-microbial properties so may not be as suitable for the kefir grains as simple sugar (raw sugar is better). This may be true in general and I’m not sure about all kinds of honey. All the best.
It's best to use organic whole milk that hasn't been Ultra-Pasteurized for Kefir. The Kefir seeds need whole milk for its food source or you'll get mostly whey produced from it because it ate up all the fats and lactose in the 2%. You can store the milk Kefir seeds in the fridge for a few days in 2% that hasn't been Ultra-Pasteurized. But disgard the milk (not the Kefir seeds) before starting a new Kefir batch or repeat the process for storage. Always look for pasteurized instead of Ultra-Pasteruized milk. Ultra-Pasteruized kills off the good bacteria strains in the milk in ultra high heat. The trick is to keep feeding the Kefir seeds or they will starve and die off.
SuperfoodEvolution your voice is absolutely fine, in good range that is easy to listen to, we do not need music because is very difficult to hear what you are saying. It’s a shame because it’s a very informative video we are not at all bothered by your voice so stop worrying and let your listeners be the judge. But many thanks for the info.
ummm, if you use kefir grains your not "making it from scratch".. there are vids on how to use store bought kefirs to make your own scoby and even vids on how to make milk kefir starting from ingredients .. i need to research how to make water kefir from scratch though.. dont really trust any store bought shit anymore.. the secret is yeast.. at least the active yeast you can buy.
It's not very difficult to say kefir correctly. You could at least make an effort. It's keh-feer and NOT kee-fur to rhyme with reefer. Here is what it should sound like: czcams.com/video/_WA9FVmn1RY/video.html czcams.com/video/52Y1vQMQ1S8/video.html
Actually Kefir came from the orient. A woman went to the orient to ask for the Kefir because they would not allow it to be shared. There is actually a story behind it. Please correct your video
In this video we try and clear up some of the confusion about the differences between water kefir and traditional milk kefir, both powerful probiotic ferments. Enjoy!
Glad you used grains and NOT the fake stuff.
what is the fake stuff?
I'm lactose intolerant, but I can digest milk kefir without any problems
I cannot :(
@@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions I couldn't either, but I started drinking ginger water throughout the day and this changed things for me.
Now I can drink quite a lot of milk and milk products
I can as well. Kefir is one of the very few milk products that I can consume without having to take a pill.
The kefir ‘eats’ the lactose in the milk 😋
After a 2nd ferment is done properly, %99 of the lactose is eaten up ……..
Drinking game:
Take a shot of kefir every time you hear the word "kefir".
Fascinating. I've never had Water Kefir before, and didn't even know it existed. Thanks.
Brilliant video, thanks.
In this video we try and clear up some of the confusion about the differences between water kefir and traditional milk kefir, bot powerful probiotic ferments. Enjoy!
I just purchased Kefir from Amazon as a beginner and originally thought all kefir grains were the same. I was originally wanting milk kefir, but upon delivery today, noticed that they were indeed water kefir grains. Thank you for posting this as it was very helpful and potentially avoiding a bad mistake when starting them. Sound like milk kefir is still much better, so will eventually try and get those going...in the interim water kefir will have to do.
First place where I've got the long list of the microorganisms involved !! Thank you so much !
Thanks!
was just wondering about this question. you answered it so thoroughly and clearly. Thank you
Glad you got something out of it!
Very complete information that was easily digested and absorbed (pun intended)
I’ve watched number of videos on both kinds of kefir and actually make both currently and really enjoyed them. But this was definitely the most informative and “science based” of all the things I’ve seen so far. Thanks so much!
Love hearing that, never gets old!
Wow! Very thorough and very needed info/video. Thanks.
Excellent video thank you so much
I love this channel!
Both can be used to treat powdery mildew on plants as well as promoting a balanced micro biology in the soil when diluted 1 part lactobacillus 30 parts water.
This explains why I never see any disease and fungal problems, I inoculate a lot of healthy microbes in every part of my plants and I only ever have insect pests
Great video. It has lots of good information.
Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I was just wondering about this!
Awesome synchronicity!
Excellent information! I always thought I could use milk probiotics to ferment everything! Thank you for clarifying that up for me and avoiding an embarrassing mistake 😅👍
Glad it was helpful!
Helpful information put across in a no nonsense way thanks ... I sorted out my gut problems years ago with milk kefir was able to eat most things again but since becoming vegan have tried water kefir and didn't have the same affect, as a foot note over use of fruit smoothies caused the problem in the first place ...
Thanks for sharing!
Milk kefir make me sick and I'm not lactose intollerant
@@patricianoll1229 try raw goat milk kefir. You probably had pasteurised cow milk kefir
Been on keto diet awhile now. New to kefir. Very informative. 👍
Thanks so much!
Very helpful
Very informative and great presentation!
Glad you liked it!
I like to put kefir in pomegranate juice. Both are tart and nutrient rich.
can one use plant milks to grow & ferment milk kefir grain, or lactose is an essential ingredient?
Such a good video!
Thanks friend!
Love from India.... So detailed video wow... Almost all queries resolve
Awesome, glad you liked it!
Can you please give me comparison between kombucha and milk kefir
Hi! I'm interested in using coconut milk (no other additives) with milk kefir grains. How long until/how do I know when to refresh the grains with cows milk?
Try every 2 batches...
Im a kombucha person myself... well and Jun as well. Jun ginger beer... yummy! and I want to try making water Kefir ginger beer!
Jun is something we want to look into...
Try the channel called the fermentation station they made it
yes, we make milk kefir in Africa...
thank you
Nice!
Wow what part of Africa 🌍
@@auntyp2980 sudan
👌
Is the water kefir keto friendly ?
I mistakenly used milk to ferment water kefir ? Is it still good?
even 2 sips of milk gives me diarrhae, but 1 cup of kefir is ok.
good point about increased calcium absorption and the fact that it reduces lactose content
difference beyween the strains is huge
50 vs 15.
would be nice if we could kow the names of the strains
thanks
Well presented. Thank you. Started drinking milk kefir yesterday, hoping it would help my bloating and digestion problem. I drink it before eating my first meal, which is usually in the afternoon.
Did it work?
@@mmmdazzagoodmemeayzzz7264 It's helping, but with a combination of other things, like salad, tea ( currently on peppermint tea, the dry leaves and it works amazing ). Am also on drinking wormwood tea, the dry leaves and it's also amazing.
@@doroth215
May I asking, where do you purchased the peppermint herbal tea and the kefir grain? Thanks
@@nancynguyen8643 I buy the Peppermint dry leaves tea from Amazon. Kefir drink from a regular Grocery store.
Kefir bought from the store usually is a joke that has nothing in common with kefir made by you with raw milk.
Can you enhance the number of probiotic strains in either water or milk kefir during fermentation? 😊
That's a good question, i think you can, with stable feeding.
And occasionally fasting maybe, if they don't feed only the strongest bacteria will survive.
The thumbnail is beautiful!
My wife takes most of the pictures!
I amtrying to learn to make these kefir to help my gut health & prevent cancer from growing
Great video!!! I want to make Kefir and I am a newbie. Is there a difference using a starter kit as opposed to using existing grains? I would be doing it milk and not water. Thank you 😊
Some kits come with the things like a strainer to strain the grains from the milk. Grains are sold as dried or live. The dried grains can take many batches to rejuvenate and re-balance the yeast/bacteria. The benefit is they can be stored for a while in the cold section of a grocery store. I bought them once because it was the middle of the summer and the live grains may have arrived dead from being too hot during transit. I prefer getting normal grains shipped if possible. Besides that no big difference. The powder is not the same and does not have as many strands of bacteria and only last a few batches.
Thanks for your contribution!
I just made both with the dried Kefir starter and the live grains both seem the same,I am a newbie at this too.The grains are supposed to be healthier.I would like to get a good ph meter and see the difference though.This is amazing though something I never knew about.I bought Keifer in a health food store a long time ago but a store product is different.
How can you find out if your kefir is not safe to consume
Can I ferment both milk and water kefir in the same area or do I need to separate them?
The same area is fine as the culturing process is coming from the grains...
@@SuperfoodEvolution Great, thank you 😊
Can I use fruit kefir grains to produce milk kefir?
In Los Angeles, check Craigs list for live kefir grains for sale, In Santa Monica.---strong grains.
The most challenging thing in my country is to get the grains.
I can arrange
@@kaustubh.sharmacan you help me
@@auntyp2980 yes sure
Could use well water to make water Kefir? Shot size, I drink at least 8 ounces right away, but I have been drinking Kamboucha for a year at least.
I wouldn’t wo treating it w ozone or something similar first, otherwise u risk potential pathogens in the well water like parasites ameba fungus bacteria 🦠 etc growing like crazy in the warm sugary water….that could be really bad
What are the kefir jars you use, called? Brand? I bought some kefir grains. How long will they last in cabinet before putting them in milk?
We freeze ours, they last forever that way...
How you doing You guys still gonna put a book together ?
can u eat the water kefir grains if they continue to multiply and don't want to use them all? please advise, thanks
You can but they're not very palatable...
You are supposed to share them with friends when they multiply, so says kefir lore. Tibetan monks gave them to Mother Teresa of Calcutta as a gift. My neighbor gives them to his chickens for healthy eggs.
started my kefir regimine today, waking up the grains.
Awesome!
@@SuperfoodEvolution i did orange peel for my first second ferment and it was super sour, so I added honey
Can we also use almond milk for milk kefir? Thank you
You would be a pioneer on that one!
Yes you can.
Yes you can
Water kefir. Milk kefir which better?
Good day! ☀️ thanks for this video
My water kefir lately is viscous like gooey, and it ferments very slowly, it is 48 hours and it tastes very sweet, that happened the first time when I put baking soda to follow a recipe from someone and since that time it has been three batches like that, there is something I can do?
At sight they look healthy and they bubble not sour
Note: I add Lemon and raisins, I am making a large batch of 8 liters
If you added baking soda you may have neutralised the acids ability to drop the ph of the water. Maybe it will resolve over time or maybe you need to let it ferment till sour a few times and avoid baking soda
Melissa Orozco research more than one vid? lol. lemon is citrus and citrus is an acid and acids curdle milk.. it seems citrus doesnt kill the bacteria but ... ohh shit.. 1. "ferments very slowly" .. cant digest the curdled milk or digesting it slowly .. or 2. "viscous like gooey" did the bacteria process the lactose and sugars from the acid and curdled milk and turn it to .. diahrea 😂 or is that "goo" a defense mechanism to protect the bacteria .. orrr if you .. drank that stuff .. and are still alive you might have. PENDING SOME DOCTORS TEST IT.. HELLO.. it might be a new beneficial different kind of bacteria culture..
you drank that.. it dont smell like swamp? 8 liters of it ehh.. if you turn that cheesy ass movie "the blob" into prophecy so help me God... 😂
Mate, you are meant to add the baking soda in the bottling stage not the fermenting with Kefir still in and fermenting stage. Strain the kefir and add the bicarb soda, then pour into bottles. Also I love lemon and ginger the best. Cheers
Can I use honey instead of brown sugar?
Sonny, I know this question is a year old but one thing I have heard about honey, particularly raw honey which is the most nutritious, has anti-microbial properties so may not be as suitable for the kefir grains as simple sugar (raw sugar is better). This may be true in general and I’m not sure about all kinds of honey. All the best.
One other thing, after the kefir is fermented of course you could add honey or whatever other ingredients you wish
Why not both?
I, the narrator, cannot tolerate dairy whatsoever.
2:51 Are you familiar?
Can I use 2% lowfat milk to make Kefir?
It's best to use organic whole milk that hasn't been Ultra-Pasteurized for Kefir. The Kefir seeds need whole milk for its food source or you'll get mostly whey produced from it because it ate up all the fats and lactose in the 2%. You can store the milk Kefir seeds in the fridge for a few days in 2% that hasn't been Ultra-Pasteurized. But disgard the milk (not the Kefir seeds) before starting a new Kefir batch or repeat the process for storage. Always look for pasteurized instead of Ultra-Pasteruized milk. Ultra-Pasteruized kills off the good bacteria strains in the milk in ultra high heat. The trick is to keep feeding the Kefir seeds or they will starve and die off.
can i share this good video to my wepsite?
Please don't, too much legal ramifications...
Can i using milk kefir grains to make water kefir？🙏
No you can't sorry.
Are water kefir same as kombocha?
No. To make water kefir you do not need looooong time. Also water kefir has more and better probiotics
It was too fast for me.
Can I use soya milk instead of raw/fresh milk?
Sorry. I HAD TO SHUT YOU OFF!! THAT MUSIC WAS ....DRIVING ME CRAZY!! PLEASE! Don't put it in next,time??!!!!
The new muzac is much more mellow. I'm self-unconscious of my voice sorry...
SuperfoodEvolution your voice is absolutely fine, in good range that is easy to listen to, we do not need music because is very difficult to hear what you are saying. It’s a shame because it’s a very informative video we are not at all bothered by your voice so stop worrying and let your listeners be the judge. But many thanks for the info.
Now you mentioned it….it is driving me knuts!
I like the music makes me feel.km I Jamaica
BLEEP the word kefir 🙄 so sick of the pronunciation POLICE. Thanks for your wonderful knowledge sharing
And we are tired of Americans mispronouncing everything.
Kehfir not keefer
The background music is intolerable
Sigh..........It's so light and airy?
@@SuperfoodEvolution You're funny. Sorry, I watch all CZcams videos at two times the speed. Thanks for the info though. 😱
ummm, if you use kefir grains your not "making it from scratch".. there are vids on how to use store bought kefirs to make your own scoby and even vids on how to make milk kefir starting from ingredients .. i need to research how to make water kefir from scratch though.. dont really trust any store bought shit anymore.. the secret is yeast.. at least the active yeast you can buy.
OMG! Russian pronunciation is not KUHFEAR 😂😂😂 not even close to it 🤣🤣🤣
I do my best...😰
It's not very difficult to say kefir correctly. You could at least make an effort. It's keh-feer and NOT kee-fur to rhyme with reefer. Here is what it should sound like:
czcams.com/video/_WA9FVmn1RY/video.html
czcams.com/video/52Y1vQMQ1S8/video.html
Omg get over the pronunciation ugh! Every video has this comment and its not important
great presentation! ...but no content...
We beg to differ...
Hater..
@@SUHABOUT so no criticism allowed.....according to the almighty....are u a democrat?
Actually Kefir came from the orient. A woman went to the orient to ask for the Kefir because they would not allow it to be shared. There is actually a story behind it. Please correct your video
Thanks for your clarification.
Why don't you pronounce Kefir properly? It's pronounced KUFER, you need to do your research properly.
According to you it's pronounced that way, but it's not pronounced like that by all... toomatoe, tomarto, potatoe, partartoe.😂
Who cares...
@@rembleekah8722 not you?
Thanks for link to to vid of the Crazy Russian Dad! In UK, we generally get a bit closer to this.
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