How to PROPERLY Transform MP-11 Masterpiece Starscream
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2017
- In this video I will show you the safest and most secure way to transform MP-11 Starscream, this video is a result of seeing many reviewers transforming their figures in such a manner that it is very likely to break a figure if done so incorrectly.
This will also work on all the other Seekers such as, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and Acidstorm. As well as all 3rd party figures with this transformation.
****Please note I actually did the step wrong where you lift up the back panel that has the air brake****
You want to pull up the airbrake flap and use that gently pull the whole piece out. DO NOT use his head to push it from the bottom as it could cause scratches to the top of the head which did happen to my figure.
I have a few of the Seekers and I had no idea that the nose slid back and pegged to the air brake part when transforming from jet to robot.
Thank you for the tutorial!
A lot of reviewers are so rough on figures especially if they are comparing them to fans toys version of the same figure just so they don’t seem as good as the version they like. Some look like they are trying to break it. Thanks for taking the time to show the best way to transform.
Thanks a lot for this!
Thank you 🙏😌🙏
Thank you so much. You have salvaged my Starscream and Skywarp. Thank you thank you thank you!
Picked up Sunstorm yesterday so gonna use this to get him into Bot mode.
When in jet mode, you can position the hands to show a flat surface vs. showing the fist. Just to make your right way a better way 😁
Thank you so much for this, I just got this yesterday and had trouble with it! Regardless I will replace it with a version 3 if it ever comes out.
Glad to been of help, I have a feeling since a 3rd Masterpiece Optimus Prime was announced as a 35th anniversary edition and there is already a new cartoon accurate Megatron that there might be an announcement of a 35th anniversary Starscream which will be more cartoon accurate as the Masterpiece series has become.
I truly hope so as I have the very first G1 colors MP-3 Starscream, this MP-11 Starscream and would love a much more cartoon accurate version to complete the trio. Also Starscream was the second Masterpiece figure to come out, MP-2 was simply a repaint of MP-1 so it doesn't count as a whole new figure so with it going Optimus then Starscream originally, it stands to reason that it may do the same for the 35th anniversary editions.
Oh boy version 3 came out but if you want it make sure you’re ready to take a mortgage out of the bank
Thank you for showing me how to transform it back and forth the only thing to note. Is for new Star screen fresh out the box the nose the star scream is not easy to slide in and out, so that it would form the head of the plane. I had to put a little WD-40 couple times.
"They're collectors items, they're meant to be transformed once every now and again, and that's it."
Those, unfortunately, are True Facts about nearly EVERY Masterpiece figure...especially with the wild transformation steps that most of'em have taken since MP36 Megatron (G1) 2.0 onward. Have you seen the new MP52 Seeker mold? The transformation on that thing makes the MP11 mold look like a Voyager class figure!!
Some of the older ones from the MP10 era, however, are apparently "made of sterner stuff", and are pretty durable. Optimus, Soundwave, the Autobot Cars, Starsaber, Ultra Magnus, and especially both versions of Hot Rod (who's transformation process is literally the G1 toy with extra steps) can take a bit of play. Unless, of course, you have Hasbro's Year of the Goat Soundwave, who's predominantly clear plastic...had to learn the hard way that stuff is NOT very durable.
Doesn't the tip of the nose open up to the side, revealing a radar? That may have been easier to clean it that way.
It does open but it flops around so it was easier to keep it closed.
I actually just got MP-52 in last week and damn it's way different to think figure for the transformation. I can transform MP-11 really quick if I wanted to but there's no such thing with MP-52.
I do still enjoy it though, I also have MP-36 and it's been one I only transform every now and again which will be the same for Starscream. I'm really happy to have all three versions of him now, I got the G1 colours MP-3 Takara version in 2008, then MP-11 in 2012 and now MP-52 all brand new whereas MP-36 was second hand since I didn't have the money for him for the original release or reissue.
I'm concerned about this yellow-white thing........ jk. Good vid!
Thank you so transform it and un transform it are not the same thing.good question though the size of Star scream compared to the size of Skywarp is it me or are they different sizes? And if that's the case why
Concerning the wings being all the way down in robot mode, all I can say is, THANK YOU!!!! Every since the first masterpiece seeker came out, I noticed a trend that got started where people would angle the wings up really high as you demonstrated. Another trend was that people started putting the null rays on the wings instead of the missles. They are both trends that have annoyed me beyond explanation every since they started. Somebody did it, and it then became a standard as if those were the correct ways and they're not. It got so bad that the manufactureres took notice and when they created the MP-11 mold, not only did the clamshell mold containing the figure have the wings raised high, but, the manufactureres also attached swivel arms onto the null rays which indicated that they were to be attached to the wings. Neither Starscream, Thundercracker, or Skywarp ever had their null rays on their wings in jet mode. They always had missiles, one per wing to be precise. As goofy as it was, they shot lasers out of their missiles.Yes, for the MP-11 mold (Thundercracker and Sunstorm at least) they added missiles but, if you attached the missiles to the wings (as they should be and not the null rays) your only options are to either let the null rays hang off of the figure in jet mode or remove them. The first option looks pretty tacky. The second option is extra work. I realize that you had to detach the null rays from the arms with the original mold as well. However, they were simply pegged into the arms and easily removed, as opposed to the MP-11 mold which has swivel arms that are attached via a very tight ball joint. Of course, the whole null rays on the wings thing was only compounded when they stopped including missiles with the figures.
You mentioned that the insutructions suggested that you angle the wings up high. The instructions suggesting to do so is just plain-out WRONG. First of all, why would they suggest any sort of "wing angling" in the first place? Why would they care? Secondly, why in the world would they suggest the wings being angled up so high since it clearly deviates from cartoon accuracy? It just makes no sense at all. On a related note, you're correct about how the behind view shows how the wings are supposed to be (the wings roots running parallel to the body). However, you don't even have to look at that to realize that the wings should be down all the way. When people angle the wings up really high, you can easily tell that they are angled up way too far when you compare it to the cartoon. Another reason that I don't like the wings being angled up, besides the fact that they look ridiculous that high up, is also because you see the huge gaps in them that are there to join them to the tabs that protrude from the body. What I can't understand is, why do the older collectors, who are more than likely more faimiliar with the series, transform them that way too? Can't they tell that it's wrong?
Just out of curiosity, why don't you like the wings all the way down in robot mode? You did mention that it was cartoon accurate which, it is. The way that you like to have them is only a few centimeters from being completely down all the way like the cartoon. So, I have to admit that I'm confused as to why you think that they look weird all the way down, especially considering that it is cartoon accurate to have them down all the way and there will be almost no difference compared to how you like to have them. This isn't criticism. I'm just genuinely curious.
You mentioned that Starscream's upside down insignias were a sign of rebellion against Megatron. Is that canonical? I've never heard of such a thing. On another note, I don't understand how you wiped off the Decepticon insignia by the nosecone since it (the nosecone) separates and turns to the side (again, this is not criticism, just curiosity).
Anyway, it is so good to see that somebody else out there has noticed how incredibly ridiculous and incorrect it looks to have the wings raised at such a high angle. I have been so frustrated by this, getting so annoyed everytime I saw a thumbnail of a seeker knowing that the wing angle was wrong, that I was tempted to upload a video explaining why the angled wings were wrong. Now I don't have to since you covered it. I'm also tempted to put a link to your video on every seeker video on CZcams. Oh, by the way, I love your title and how you emphasized the word proper. A couple more points and then I'll shut up. In relation to my first paragraph, I do realize that the original MP seeker mold had conformal fuel tanks on it that hung down to the sides of the figure in robot mode. A lot of people liked to display their original seekers with the conformal fuel tanks lifted up to the back so that they would be out of sight. Doing this necessitated the wings being raised at a higher angle to make clearance for the conformal fuel tanks. The only problem is, as I mentioned, it became such a standard that people kept doing it even with the MP-11 mold, which had no conformal fuel tanks hanging down to the sides to raise to necessitate the high angling of the wings for clearance. Finally, I want to make the point that even though I originally stated that it was incorrect to put the null rays on the wings, if someone personally likes having the null rays on the wings in jet mode and/or they like having the wings angled highly in robot mode, there's absolutely nothing wrong with personal preference on the matter. I just don't like how a trend was started that pretty much dictated that's how it's SUPPOSED to be when it wasn't. Again, the wing angling was necessary for the original mold, unless you just kept the conformal fuel tanks down to the sides of the robot and then there was no need for it. The MP-11 however, does not have conformal fuel tanks so there's no need for angling.
Wow that is quite the comment, I read through it all and appreciate some of the things you said, but at the moment it is the middle of the night for me and I have a mechanical keyboard in a house of sleeping people so I'll answer all your questions tomorrow :D
+ZANTHERA No problem. I'm sorry that it was such a long comment. If you can't tell, I'm pretty passionate about this subject :-) I just want you and anybody else that may read it to know that I mean no offense whatsoever.
First of all this is the most well thought out and written comment I have ever read, not to mention the longest, anyway here goes, I'll answer each of your questions in the same paragraph layout that you used.
I think the null rays being attached to the wings in jet mode was the only way they could go about getting that effect since this figure does not come with the smaller double missiles, I just looked at the scene in the 1986 movie where Starscream is attacking Springer and Arcee and it seems the weapons he is using on his wings are very short and not nearly as long as his null rays. So really I think that is the only explanation for the use of the null rays on the wings.
You are right, it is odd how they give you instructions to angle the wings up, to me it seems that the ability for the wings to swing out may have originally been intended for clearance issues for transformation as it is impossible to swing the wings around with them still attached to the body all the way along.
The reason I have them almost all the way down is really just personal preference, for a long time I did also have the wings all the way up but it never looked quite right, and that's when I noticed in the cartoons and movie how the spikes at the ends of his wings were parallel with his body all the time. I tried this for the longest time but I found it difficult to pose him and I was never satisfied with the angle at the top of the wing, Starscream has always been depicted with seemingly very sharp wings tips, so I decided on the method of gently pushing them down until the joint itself stopped it, as you have to normally slightly force it over a small piece of plastic that makes it clip in, this is what the wings rest on and is in my opinion the best of both worlds of being accurate enough to the cartoon in both the top and bottom areas of the wing.
I think the idea of his upside down insignia's came from the community, I had read it somewhere before but after further investigation it seems all the seekers has upside down insignia's so that in the jet mode from behind they'd look upright, to me though this does not make sense seeing as their insignia on their nose cones were the right way up when viewing the jet from the front, and as I said in the video I have a tad bit of OCD and it drove me crazy how the front insignia was upright ans the main wing ones weren't, so I took some rubbing alcohol to a figure I paid £200 at the time, but it was worth the end result. Oh and about the insignia above the nose cone, when I cleaned the paint off the nose cone I kept it folded in as the hinge is not the strongest and me going to town with some rubbing alcohol ended up with some getting on the body just in front of the glass, resulting in the accidental erasing of the factory stamped insignia, but I was not too worried as I had a sticker in the same style as the wing ones to put on after and it would have bugged me to have the front insignia be a different shade of purple than the wing insignia's.
+ZANTHERA Thank you. I appreciate it. Again, I apologize for it being so long. Thank you also for responding. Warning: This one is going to be a bit lengthy as well :-) Just to be clear, I'm using bold to quote you.
*I think the null rays being attached to the wings in jet mode was the only way they could go about getting that effect since this figure does not come with the smaller double missiles, I just looked at the scene in the 1986 movie where Starscream is attacking Springer and Arcee and it seems the weapons he is using on his wings are very short and not nearly as long as his null rays. So really I think that is the only explanation for the use of the null rays on the wings.*
I understand where you're coming from when you mention achieving the look since missiles were no longer included. However, the thing about the null rays being attached to the wings is, people were doing it with the original mold, which had missiles with it. The first three MP-11's (Thundercracker, Acid Storm, and Sunstorm) also had missiles with them. So, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that point. Yet, somewhat contradictory on my part, I can see how that explanation would be fitting for the later MP-11's that came after Thundercracker, Acid Storm, and Sunstorm (again, those three still came with missiles). However, as I implied, the reason that you offered, which was to achieve a certain look, was not the original intention since all of the seekers up until MP-11 Starscream came with missiles. The instructions telling you to put the null rays on the wings happened from the very first mold and they simply continued those instructions for the MP-11's that no longer came with missiles. In retrospect, I have to correct myself on something (which I inadvertantly already did in the seventh sentence of this paragraph). In my original reply, I mentioned that it was a trend that got started (null rays on the wings). After looking at the instructions for one of my "originally-molded" seekers, I realized that they instructed you to place the null rays on the wings in jet mode. So, I was incorrect about it simply being a trend that someone started. In this case, all that I can say is that I personally believe those to be horrible instructions. It makes no sense to put the null rays on the wings, especially since the origianl molds and the first three MP-11's came with missiles and, neither Starscream, Thundercracker, or Skywarp ever had null rays on their wings in the cartoons or in the movie in the first place. I put the foolishness of those instructions into the same category as the MP-11 instructions telling you to angle the wings. What sense does that make to instruct a person to put the null rays on the wings instead of the missiles (that is, of course, for the ones that have missiles)? It's a deviation from cartoon accuracy just as much as the MP-11 instructions suggesting to angle the wings. Come to think of it, why did they even include missiles originally if they were going to instruct people to use the null rays instead? I mean, I understand that you can have an alternate look but it seems like they would have done things the other way around. The instructions should tell you to put the missiles on the wings which, is cartoon-accurate. Then, if you wanted to, you could use the null rays for a different look. Concerning the 1986 movie, Starscream still had missiles on his wings, just like he, Thundercracker, and Skywarp did in the series (one per wing). That's why the weapons on his wings in the scene that you referenced looked so short. They were still the singular missiles that he carried on each wing. If you look at some cartoon stills or, pause the movie, you can easily see that they are missiles. You can easily make out the rounded cone of the missile and the launcher that's holding it. As I originally mentioned, they always had Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp with missiles on their wings in jet mode in the cartoon and, as funny as it was, that's what they shot their lasers out of and the 1986 movie is no exception.
*You are right, it is odd how they give you instructions to angle the wings up, to me it seems that the ability for the wings to swing out may have originally been intended for clearance issues for transformation as it is impossible to swing the wings around with them still attached to the body all the way along.*
You are correct. The wings do have to swing out in jet mode for clearance reasons. That's just part of the design. However, once they are cleared and you flip them up, they are supposed to come all the way back down against the body, just like they are in jet mode (it's worth noting again that this is not a criticism on how you personally like it).
I understand that it's your personal preference to set the wings the way that you do. But, out of curiosity, why do you find it hard to pose him with the wings all the way down, especially considering the fact that they are almost all the way down when you position them the way that you like. As I mentioned before, you have them so far down that they are literally only centimeters from being totally down all the way. So, I really don't understand how having them down all the way hampers poseability.
*I think the idea of his upside down insignia's came from the community, I had read it somewhere before but after further investigation it seems all the seekers has upside down insignia's so that in the jet mode from behind they'd look upright.*
Here's where cartoon inconsistency comes into play. In most cases, the insignias on Thundercracker's and Skywarp's wings were right-side up in jet mode (meaning, they wold be upside down from the rear view that you mentioned). However, in robot mode, they were often, if not always or mostly always, upside down. If this is confusing, look at it this way. Take the figures for example (since there won't be any inconsistencies). When you're looking at the figure in jet mode (front view for emphasis) with the insignias facing a certain way, the insignias are still going to be facing that way when you transform the figure into a robot. The cartoons inconsistently had them facing the opposite direction between jet and robot mode for Thundercracker and Skywarp. Starscream was different in that 1. In jet mode, as opposed to Thundercracker and Skywarp, his insignias were upside down and, 2. His insignias consistently, for the most part, remained upside down in robot mode as well. Now, I remember the aforementioned inconsistency has happened with Starscream as well, which is why I said for the most part. However, if I remember correctly, it wasn't as common. The insignia on the undersides of their wings is another discussion that I won't get into because it will be way too confusing. Let's just say that in robot mode in the cartoons, I've seen the insignia being upside down on the front and right-side up on the back of Skywarp and I am more than sure that it happened with the other two. My point was concerning the tops of the wings only. All in all, a person will just have to watch the cartoons and pay very close attention to these things.
I'm still trying to find missiles for mine
Great video, helped A LOT. Btw, I'm selling mine. I don't know how long I'll still be able to keep it away from my little monsters ^^
Can you make more transformers videos? This is a great video tutorial.
I followed your instructions im having problems to his right chest it doesnt follows completely even i rotate his Shoulders
Je l'ai cette version et j'ai aussi la version mp-52 et la version mp-52 est beaucoup mieux fait.
i know it's your money, it's your toys, you do as you wish but most US based reviewers made me cringe when they grabbed their toys/collectibles and shakes them violently to show off their "expertise" in exposing figure's weak joints and durability...some of those toys like the MP line or Soul of Chogokin line, they are never meant to be handled in such obnoxious ways but hey to each their own i guess...
It's things like that that made me want to make this video, there are too many reviews of the MP-11 seeker mold where they are pushing, pulling and twisting bits that shouldn't be. Yes they may be toys to some but the majority of those who own these figures aren't going to roughly play with them.
I very rarely handel my Starscream and when I do I'm as careful as possible because I want him to last.
i was watching one of those "famous" youtuber review of Maketoys Hellfire, an overall fine, well built figure.He was generally ok with the figure, with a few nitpicks here and there, which is to be expected..then he went on and off about this particular joint on its shoulder, pulling it in and out of its socket in such obnoxious ways repeatedly and went yea..i'm definitely not crazy for these joints...without really having any legitimate reason for disliking it...
For starters, your Starscream is a KO (Knockoff). So if you paid 200 pounds, you got ripped off. And from someone who acts like they are mister perfect in knowledge for Transformation, you don't know the real figure from a hole in the ground.
Steve Krois My figure is very real it's just it was from the first run in 2012, I got this when it had only just come out and the KOs were not even thought of yet.
I would have thought maybe you'd be referring to the very loose canopy slider but this is a very common issue with the first release of this figure.
Another way you may be thinking this is a KO is because of the non original insignias and blue nose cone. Well if you watch I do mention that I removed the upside down insignias from the wings in favor of upright reprolabels and I cleaned off the grey paint from the nose cone to reveal the blue plastic underneath, which again is a known fact among masterpiece seeker collectors. I did the exact same thing with my G1 colors Japan exclusive MP-3 Starscream back in 2010.
The nose cone is molded on the same tree as the other blue plastic parts on the figure, most likely for some kind of cancelled release of full G1 toy colors, but the original G1 colour MP-3 had scorch marks painted over it along with silver and this one had grey paint over it, removing the paint exposes the original blue plastic therefore making him look more toy accurate which I happen to prefer.
The first Mp11 had the blue nose cone. To get it in the KO just strip the paint off the tip of the gray and it will be blue.
@@ZANTHERA yes. Not sure why he's calling it a KO. The KO had gray nose cones and shabby paint on starscream chest. I can see you've transformed I about 20 or so times and it still looks great.