Edit: The bug is now fixed in NVIDIA's latest driver! On latest NVIDIA drivers (as of this date), HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling) causes 100% GPU usage in idle desktop, even when doing absolutely nothing. Disabling it is the only way to stop that from happening right now.
This is odd. I have the hotfix version of the latest driver installed and while Task Manager reports DWM using a high percentage (up to 100%),no other tool is reporting this at the same time. For example afterburner has the usage at 2% with my clocks and temps all at their idle states. Super weird.
@@KenpoJuJitsu3 It's very strange indeed! I will admit that my GPU feels very cool and sounds like no real work is being done, including the temps. Nevertheless, I disabled it cause of the reporting I was getting Tested, and it doesn't happen with the Intel iGPU driver.
It’s on by default on a clean install, so I’m assuming from that, and the fact that we’re seeing improved performance, that it is now working as intended unlike in windows 10
this setting theoretically reduces the load from the processor and transfers it to the graphics card. So if you have old cpu but brand new gpu this setting can do the trick!
Seems like HAGS works much better on W11 than on W10 frok the comparison videos I’ve seen so far. It was probably improved and now I’m tempted to upgrade to W11.
How are u dude. I know u. Long ago i was talking with u about dx 12 ultimate. Did u find dx 12 ultimate on ur rtx 2060 gpu? Did u see dx 12_2 in nvidia control panel?
No. To find your dx version, run command dxdiag. I have 12_1, on the latest driver. Dx12 ultimate was just a gimmick by Microsoft, mainly for the Xbox. All of the features they said it would give you, Nvidia has already been supporting on their drivers since 2018.
Got a new PC with a 3080, had a screen tearing issue every 10 seconds or so at the very top of my screen (this is after driver updates ofc). Turned HAGS off and it's working perfectly fine. I'll take 0 screen tearing over 2 more avg. fps any day lmao
for some reason, when it is on - when video runs, mouse / video becomes a little laggy even on my rtx 3080. once i turn it off, it works fine -- guess i'll live without extra 10fps, since videos happen even in games.
Totally agree! Didnt knew why Warzone felt so laggy on my 1660 super paired with i5 12gen. Now being disabled even the avg fps increased. I think it s depends very much if you have a slow cpu compared to gpu then it might worth enable.
i felt similar problems on my 3070ti... just didnt feel right... rocket league was a bit less responsive or laggy and i noticed my mouse felt like it floated when i moved it.
I tried to replace windows 10 with 11 for quite some time now, but every time I try I end up back on windows 10 because of a very annoying bug, and it seems to be connected to HAGS. I noticed that whenever I alt+tab out of border-less windowed games and move around on my second monitor my whole computer slows down to a crawl for 3-4 sec. Game runs at 2-3 fps and moving around windows looks like 5hz monitor. Turned of HAGS today and tried to force the issue, nothing yet. *shrug* Fingers crossed I guess. Sucks about the 10 free fps though, but the gain seems to be only on some games. I am running X570 Dark hero, R9 3950x, RTX3080, 32gb ram at 3600mhz.
Your game is still running at full speed and your GPU is trying to run another monitor at whatever speed it run at. If you have an Nvidia graphics card, open your Nvidia Control Panel, and go to your "Mange 3D settings" scroll down to "Background Application Max Frame Rate" and turn it ON and then set the FPS to 60 or 30 etc. This tells Windows 11 that when you TAB out not to run the graphic card at full speed in the window you just close, as your game goes down to the FPS set in your "Background Application Max Frame Rate"., Thats what this setting supposed to do. Hopefully this helps and let me know if it worked.
I have windows 10 and in my testing with a r3 3100 and a GTX 1660ti with GPU scheduling off in a game it hits 135-137fps 96-98% load with it on it hits 141fps solid with 100% GPU load. I rarely ever see the GPU hit 100% load with it off. I always thought that if its 96-98% then your mostly GPU bound but there I go, there's my 2-4% extra performance that was missing lol
I recently set up a second monitor, and a tv to my 3080ti, I couldn't play a game without whatever was going on on the other screen stuttering and basically turn into a static image. The sound was still working fine btu 2 days it took me to finally turn off HA,GPU S and everything works great now. 100% repeatable.
Honestly, if this is the thing, that stops me from getting pissed off at why other screens lag, which affects not just gaming but also various 3D applications I use, I'll break something.
@@satnav9699 Arkham Knight has a bunch of Nvidia gameworks issues as well. Listing one of the buggiest games in history was maybe not the best example :-P
can you do this with a lower end CPU as well? because apparently this offloads CPU so low end CPU's while being hit hard will be hit less hard with Hardware Accelerated Scheduling ON meaning better perfomance?
@@yunglorn Depends,it wills crash some games for example if u use it on win11 to play valorant=ur computer will sometimes freeze when u alt tab from the game,and u must force restart it(u can force restart ur computer at least once per day,which is bad for computer's health) I dont think the +5-10fps worth the trouble to keep freezing and forcing the computer to restart
It's actually not that great of a feature, especially for more recent AI applications. The thing is, the GPU scheduler DOES have a finite processing speed and number of things it can support at once, along with requiring memory to do it. It only really helps in games where your CPU is bottlenecked and the reduced latency allows more frames to be generated, but it still only primarily helps with frame generation and also increases load on the GPU, which can actually reduce performance if your GPU has to downclock as a result of hitting temp limits. Why does it offer higher frame rate then? Because technically your GPU isn't always at 100% usage, it's more like it's at 100% for a few milliseconds here and there, with tiny gaps in between. Of course your GPU usage graph will still show 100%, because it doesn't update that quickly. Outside of gaming, heavy GPU compute tasks can actually be hurt by GPU scheduling, because of the extra demand it puts on the GPU.
Has nothing to do with voltage. I mean, a side-effect of your gpu not waiting for your cpu to schedule itself might lead to your gpu rendering faster while in use, which would increase voltage, but nothing outside your cards normal bounds.
Hello guys. So, it's working!
00:00 Far Cry 6
01:13 Microsoft Flight Simulator
02:30 Forza Horizon 4
03:38 Cyberpunk 2077
04:53 Red Dead Redemption 2
This is literally the only Windows 11 GPU scheduling benchmark I can find on the internet. Thanks so much.. :)
Agreed. Only saw for Windows 10 in 2024
Thx for taking the time to make this; very helpful!
Edit: The bug is now fixed in NVIDIA's latest driver!
On latest NVIDIA drivers (as of this date), HAGS (Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling) causes 100% GPU usage in idle desktop, even when doing absolutely nothing. Disabling it is the only way to stop that from happening right now.
This is odd. I have the hotfix version of the latest driver installed and while Task Manager reports DWM using a high percentage (up to 100%),no other tool is reporting this at the same time. For example afterburner has the usage at 2% with my clocks and temps all at their idle states. Super weird.
@@KenpoJuJitsu3 It's very strange indeed! I will admit that my GPU feels very cool and sounds like no real work is being done, including the temps. Nevertheless, I disabled it cause of the reporting I was getting
Tested, and it doesn't happen with the Intel iGPU driver.
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@@amvcentral27 Yupp. It's a bit weird. I actually got a crash in 1 game until I disabled HAGS.
I had the exact same problem. I upgraded from a 1070 to an 3070 and starded to have this problem. Solved in the same way
It’s on by default on a clean install, so I’m assuming from that, and the fact that we’re seeing improved performance, that it is now working as intended unlike in windows 10
this setting theoretically reduces the load from the processor and transfers it to the graphics card. So if you have old cpu but brand new gpu this setting can do the trick!
Exactly my case ;)
Seems like HAGS works much better on W11 than on W10 frok the comparison videos I’ve seen so far. It was probably improved and now I’m tempted to upgrade to W11.
Have u upgraded yet?
Have A Great Summer!!
Thanks for this! Much appreciated. :-)
Lol, Red Dead doesn’t care what settings you run, it’s going to eat your GPU alive either way, even on high end systems.
How are u dude. I know u. Long ago i was talking with u about dx 12 ultimate. Did u find dx 12 ultimate on ur rtx 2060 gpu? Did u see dx 12_2 in nvidia control panel?
No. To find your dx version, run command dxdiag. I have 12_1, on the latest driver. Dx12 ultimate was just a gimmick by Microsoft, mainly for the Xbox. All of the features they said it would give you, Nvidia has already been supporting on their drivers since 2018.
Got a new PC with a 3080, had a screen tearing issue every 10 seconds or so at the very top of my screen (this is after driver updates ofc). Turned HAGS off and it's working perfectly fine. I'll take 0 screen tearing over 2 more avg. fps any day lmao
not only for fps, now the buttons respond immediately!
Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
@@NFC It's really nice to see such as these comparions. Would love to see nvidia 472.12 vs 496.13 performance comparison video. Keep up to good work!
@@Rwayne- I will..👍
Wouldn't even need these videos if people made shit good in the first place. Nice driving btw
for some reason, when it is on - when video runs, mouse / video becomes a little laggy even on my rtx 3080. once i turn it off, it works fine -- guess i'll live without extra 10fps, since videos happen even in games.
Totally agree! Didnt knew why Warzone felt so laggy on my 1660 super paired with i5 12gen. Now being disabled even the avg fps increased. I think it s depends very much if you have a slow cpu compared to gpu then it might worth enable.
i felt similar problems on my 3070ti... just didnt feel right... rocket league was a bit less responsive or laggy and i noticed my mouse felt like it floated when i moved it.
@@SpecialyKey if i have a better cpu than gpu (r7 3700x > 2060 super), would it be worth to turn it on or off HAGS? thx in advanced ^_^
@@kuroxqt i do know if is worth it. As far i understood HAGS takes the load from CPU and set it to GPU. You might try and see how it goes.
make sure your game running on native resolution,you can settings on nvidia control panel
it does work with windows 10 now if you have the 21h2 update of windows 10
Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling make steam vr stutter and crash. if you have vr turn it off
Totally agree. I'm on 12400 with 3080 and gpu sch makes VR games a random nightmare.
Can I ask whether do you need yo enable window's VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) when you have G-Sync or FreeSync on?
I tried to replace windows 10 with 11 for quite some time now, but every time I try I end up back on windows 10 because of a very annoying bug, and it seems to be connected to HAGS.
I noticed that whenever I alt+tab out of border-less windowed games and move around on my second monitor my whole computer slows down to a crawl for 3-4 sec. Game runs at 2-3 fps and moving around windows looks like 5hz monitor.
Turned of HAGS today and tried to force the issue, nothing yet. *shrug* Fingers crossed I guess.
Sucks about the 10 free fps though, but the gain seems to be only on some games.
I am running X570 Dark hero, R9 3950x, RTX3080, 32gb ram at 3600mhz.
Your game is still running at full speed and your GPU is trying to run another monitor at whatever speed it run at. If you have an Nvidia graphics card, open your Nvidia Control Panel, and go to your "Mange 3D settings" scroll down to "Background Application Max Frame Rate" and turn it ON and then set the FPS to 60 or 30 etc. This tells Windows 11 that when you TAB out not to run the graphic card at full speed in the window you just close, as your game goes down to the FPS set in your "Background Application Max Frame Rate"., Thats what this setting supposed to do. Hopefully this helps and let me know if it worked.
I have windows 10 and in my testing with a r3 3100 and a GTX 1660ti with GPU scheduling off in a game it hits 135-137fps 96-98% load with it on it hits 141fps solid with 100% GPU load. I rarely ever see the GPU hit 100% load with it off. I always thought that if its 96-98% then your mostly GPU bound but there I go, there's my 2-4% extra performance that was missing lol
Gonna need everything to play halo infinite
something odd in far cry? the gpu seems to be pulling 10+w vs the one with it off
I recently set up a second monitor, and a tv to my 3080ti, I couldn't play a game without whatever was going on on the other screen stuttering and basically turn into a static image. The sound was still working fine btu 2 days it took me to finally turn off HA,GPU S and everything works great now. 100% repeatable.
Honestly, if this is the thing, that stops me from getting pissed off at why other screens lag, which affects not just gaming but also various 3D applications I use, I'll break something.
I'm just looking if by disabling this youtube scrolling stop stuttering on external monitor, and It also affects gaming as well.
I turned it on and it lagged my game a lot after a while. I just don't know if it was this or another reason
I don't get it
For some games it's no effect, why?
and what is your conclusion on this??
How does it goes with ARC a770 though ?
I have a Ryzen 7 3700x and a Rtx 2060 and I stream and play on the same computer is it worth to have on or off?
yes its worth having it either on or off
Is there a risk when gpu power exceed the max limit, hags on ??
yes, but you can set your refresh rate to 75/60/50 fps to decrease power
Test with low end CPU or GPU or 8 GB RAM, please.
My games r very smooth when it is turned off but if I on it fps is same but games shutters literally
+10 FPS. Gotta enable this feature
In certain games but yea can’t believe I been playing with it off 🤣
@@changov2770 Same...
depends what game, batman Arkham knight it will make unplayable
@@satnav9699 Arkham Knight has a bunch of Nvidia gameworks issues as well. Listing one of the buggiest games in history was maybe not the best example :-P
does hardware accelerated gpu scheduling lower or higher cpu temp?
Higher for 3-7 degrees
where is this settings for windows 10
Type in «GPU» in search bar and press enter. Then u will find it
display settings -> graphics settings at the extreme bottom
can you do this with a lower end CPU as well? because apparently this offloads CPU so low end CPU's while being hit hard will be hit less hard with Hardware Accelerated Scheduling ON meaning better perfomance?
With gtx 1050 Ti and i5-7400 I have +6 more fps in games that are CPU intensive, so it's certainly worth it:)
@@yunglorn
Depends,it wills crash some games
for example if u use it on win11 to play valorant=ur computer will sometimes freeze when u alt tab from the game,and u must force restart it(u can force restart ur computer at least once per day,which is bad for computer's health)
I dont think the +5-10fps worth the trouble to keep freezing and forcing the computer to restart
@@alexponco4753 I meant +20 not +6 that time. Must have been autocorrect, sorry. In Bf5 alone I got like +20 fps, same in Conquerors Blade.
It's actually not that great of a feature, especially for more recent AI applications. The thing is, the GPU scheduler DOES have a finite processing speed and number of things it can support at once, along with requiring memory to do it. It only really helps in games where your CPU is bottlenecked and the reduced latency allows more frames to be generated, but it still only primarily helps with frame generation and also increases load on the GPU, which can actually reduce performance if your GPU has to downclock as a result of hitting temp limits. Why does it offer higher frame rate then? Because technically your GPU isn't always at 100% usage, it's more like it's at 100% for a few milliseconds here and there, with tiny gaps in between. Of course your GPU usage graph will still show 100%, because it doesn't update that quickly. Outside of gaming, heavy GPU compute tasks can actually be hurt by GPU scheduling, because of the extra demand it puts on the GPU.
please test valorant
if you turn it on does it consume much electricty compared to when it's off?
Has nothing to do with voltage. I mean, a side-effect of your gpu not waiting for your cpu to schedule itself might lead to your gpu rendering faster while in use, which would increase voltage, but nothing outside your cards normal bounds.
mine doesnt have that feature my gpu drivers is 473.47 (2022 drivers gt 730) does reinstalling windows can fix it?
Probably not. Your GPU is too old. I used to have a GT 740 - did an excellent job, but I replaced it with a GTX 1660 in 2020.
i just turned this on at w10 and no more heavy drops