We are Focusing On Wrong Things As A Country- Steve Mbogo
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
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The interviewers were the biggest obstacle to what could have been a truly eye-opening conversation.
They flaunt their ignorance with arrogance.
One Is old coward man, the other one is a lady who is so obsessed na uzungu mwingi, the other man is such a timid guy wht do u expect from such people to grab smart ideas.
It's good to question stuff but also allow one to give his views.
I came to give the same sentiments. Those 3 are a good example of what's ailing Kenya n Africa at large.
Steve is trying to open their eyes to see beyond their noses but for some reason they think he's a conspiracy theorist and that's all they wanted to prove, not learn anything at all.
Sad but true
Steve Mbogo knows what he is talking about and agree with him 100 percent
Leo spice wame tu angusha. They probably agree with him off air but don’t want to be labeled as enablers
if you want to listen to this interview just visit Lynn ngugi show with steve
The perfect platform. LNN
Per chance I had stumbled on it this morning. Quite stupefying. Taken with the way the US treats its black citizenry (including select restrictions to certain professions like medicine - never mind top of class graduates); who then are we in poor, dirt third world country! Spice fm presenters may among the many disbelievers of the new world order.
Well done, Steve Mbogo for keeping our cool.... difficult subject matter
This was the most important conversation ever floated in Kenya, but everyone fumbled it...the media personalities were ignorant and arrogant, and Mbogo - while having his finger on the issues- was not strongly articulate or even allowed to finish all his thinking clearly.
I have hated the Kenyan political culture for almost 5 decades, and it is primarily because of Kenyas incompetent MEDIA and its mediocre politicians.
The last time Kenya had a serious media personality in the Fourth Estate, was Hillary Ng'weno.
This is why Kenya is so confused and can't even begin to understand the issues Mbogo is trying to articulate.
These radio hosts were told by their masters to be agitators on this conversatiin
Bought and sold by elites all main stream media
check out his interview with Lyn Ngugi. There he is given time and you see it clearly
The interviewers should apologize to Mbogo for conducting a horrible interview. They were debating him, not interviewing him. Keep pushing on Mbogo, dont let them stop you.
Mbogo is well informed
The presenters are experiencing cognitive dissonance, a mental situation in which a person becomes extremely uncomfortable and repulsive towards new ideas and information that challenge their life-long known truths. People experiencing this can even get physicaly aggressive and Steve should have tagged his security details along before challenging these people's truths. If you ever elect me as President, I will spare religion but will reign hard on education, it's producing good looking graduates stuffed with western gabbage inside, like those sofas you buy along Jogoo Road. A graduate incapable of critical thinking but compliant with all western stands. On a second thought, this is censorship, they called Steve here to silence him, thank God it backfired. EDWIN AMUGA for President. Steve is my Running mate.
That exactly what it is 'cognitive dissonance' this is why they love to call them conspiracy theories. All conspiracy theories from the past have become conspiracy facts now.
Sir, I believe in what Steve is saying. I believe there is a group of individuals whose main aim is to lead this world and have us depending on them in the name of New World Order. The panelists also seem to understand and seem to be in agreement with Steve. But there is one thing you are ignoring, that conversation is being listened to by people who know nothing about NWO, who knows nothing about who exactly is making those policies Ruto is implementing blindly. That group of listeners who have no idea at all on what is happening globally. So when the panelists ask those questions, the hard questions, they are not to silence Steve, but they are to give Steve and opportunity for him to express his knowledge and explain it well to all people, the smart and the illiterate.
I believe Steve Hasan idea on what is happening but his failure to give examples when asked, just showed that he doesn't really understand how NWO and western countries have impacted or are controlling us. He also needs to do his research well. Lastly sir, when you are asked questions, those hard questions, the ones you can't answer, it should be a wake up call for you to go back and do extensive research on that particular topic.... Ni hayo tu kwa sasa
It is very irritating for the panelists to try embarrass a guest who is giving them free content
Conspiracies that don't make sense. The guy is just giving a lot of hot air
@@davidgachambi he said you go read but your lazy 4ss hasnt
Especially when this kind of conversation is not being had anywhere else.
Reminds me of the movie, "Don't look up". I blame our upbringing that brainwashed us that West is best and White is right.
Kwanza Ndu, she is blinded by anything Western. She almost gets a hernia when any fault is pointed at the West. Her happiest moments are when she can show off her French, forgetting that she has a whole world of rich Nigerian culture than she can teach us. Rich cultures like that of Chinua Achebe.
Steve, I really pray for you. You talk the truth that few people know (or are allowed to know). The whole planet is held captive.
I love Steve mbogo’s commentary very versed with the rot this country is choking from
Nothing new , the guy wants the government to lift the sanctions for the money launderers to thrive. If he does clean business why is it hard to provide source of funds . I know of many businessmen who bank over 20M in a day and the accounts are never flagged because the bank can trace the source , and the business they do.
When you call someone to the hot seat, it's good to at least let them air their views without unnecessary interruptions.
Steve mbogo seems to be soo much informed but the Old hlguyz are just there to put him off.
Hope Spice FM reads through these comments and does better next time
Steve Mbogo is mostly loaded and he appears to understand the underpinning currents that sway Kenyan policies - the imperialists powers whose agenda override Kenyan agenda. The more I listen to the hosts, despite their good questions, the more I realize how naive they are to the global interests and how these consequentially affect Kenyan interests to the ground. Mbogo was making important points. He may not have been able to effectively articulate them, but to anyone who understands the bilateral interests, you definitely pick out his theory.
Most like he was not allowed to effectively articulate them.
They're very defensive today, Mbogo touched the nerve. Conveniently, they bring another person who is clearly very arrogant
The problem in Kenya, is that it is impossible to have a conversation on policy, ideology, strategy, etc. without it fundamentally becoming about which side of the political divide do I perceive you to support!
What has happened in Kenya is this: The Gikuyu (and by delegation the Kalenjin) were the beneficiaries of alignment with the "global West" - the imperial powers - and used their access to further dominate and marginalize other communities locally. Some of these other communities resisted and even rebelled, to severe consequences (especially regarding economic survival) so they sought their own alliances with the outside world (foreign sources). Now that some of these outside/marginalized communities have established some support systems ( with factions in the West, with the Arab and Muslim world, etc) the same battle that was going on between the foreign powers, has been brought into the Kenyan local political space. So Kenya, is in no way "sovereign" but a playground of competing global interests. And the Kenyan mouths that speak are merely advancing the interests and narratives of their sponsors (or those they hope to align with).
Very condescending, ganging up on Mbogo and trying to control his answers.
Yes, their bosses gave them orders to become agitators on guests who attack the Government policies
That guy was very arrogant and he just listen to respond but not to Understand..
Steve mbogo well represented..The Old guyz should just shut up there mouth..Educate them
@@kijana2030 Very sad.
Mr mbogo is completely in order it is not by mistake Biden mentioned ruto in the UN summit they are taking over control here. Shida ya wakenya ni kulala and being involved in petty wrangles nchi ikiibwa mchana
They're not taking over, Ruto is selling Kenya to them. Accept the mediocrity of KK and stop making excuses for greedy, lazy, mediocre, corrupt politicians and their supporters
I think the interviewers failed this time, they did not allow Steve Mbogo to explain what he thought and believed just because he had a contrary opinion to theirs, infact at some point they kept on bombarding him with issues back to back. Now Steve has said that this loans that were taken by Uhuru government were illegal, the same thing that James Wanjigi said, explained and demonstrated - now the panel is disagreeing. I think the issue with loans is not a limit thing, the illegality comes with expenditure and wether these funds actually hit the consolidated fund.
Steve is also right; there seems to be global agenda to demotivate small scale farmers in favour of big corporations; hence the farmers demos in France, Germany, Switzerland etc. It is sinister the control that few corporations like Bayer - Monsato, Dupont, Limagrain and Syngenta control seeds, animal feed, pesticides and even fertilizers. There's definiely more to this....
The composure of the guest is beyond professionalism. He's full of wisdom. The media panelist are full of naivety and lacked etiquette and class. I watched it and I am happy that we have a brilliant and astute brains in Kenya. Kudos Mr. Mbogo. Research well done!
For the first time am mad with Spice FM conduct.
These fools at spice fm were debating with him instead of interviewing him. Now i realize how ignorant they are.
Steve mbogo has a point and needs time to express himself more,but interviewers are too many and argumentative to allow a balanced interview
They are the media, they have to maintain the status quo. But we know the people who run this world are not on our side. I recommend you go look up something called: Greater and lesser magic
This was a complete waste with no salvage value. So it's Eric who sustains sanity in this room. Shame on you Mark, Ndu and CT!
I am honestly disappointed with the panel today... That was uncalled for.. please apologise to Mr Steve mbogi and don't invite him to the show if all you wanna do is embarrass him
They invite Mbogo but don't want him to speak. Useless interviewers 😡
A few years ago in India, there was a big fight over the patent of a particular type of potato. The big corporations had thought they could buy their way to owning it. That variety has been in India for centuries…
I would advice to call MBogo again specifically on the same topic na akuje very prepared. HIzi generalisaiton zipungue
You thinking that Steve is generalizing is being totally ignorant
Eric Lattif, you have a brand to protect. Be careful whom you allow to sit on your chair! This was a massive let down.
Exactly how?
Ignorance shall be your downfall. Check what they've done with the LGBTQ policy, GMO products, fake climate change agenda, 15 minute cities disguised as a housing project etc.
Lattiff would have wiped the floor with this guy. He should thank his lucky stars Lattiff was away 😂😂😂.
Elaborate .too generic
To understand this guy you have to open your third 👁️ some of what his saying is already happening but it's gradual like the frog being boiled in water that it doesn't realise the environment has changed until it's too late.
Please explain better what this rumour monger is unable to.
If you have a 3rd eye then you understand better than him.
Bichachi has turned out to be a pro status analyst and will do anything to justify anything to protect his bread
True. His argument is so baseless.
If you tell a person in their house that it is built on sand... they can mock you that you are still paying rent hence you have no business talking. It is not in their interests to acknowledge their blind side... until well it rains, floods and alas the imported furniture is swept away. Such was the reaction of the panelist... remember Noah was also mocked.
Information is power. Steve understands what is happening.
The spice FM panel turned hostile without Eric latif 💔 Steve couldn't even get a clear stream of thoughts with y'all bombarding him with digression every dang time 😂
Yes, they kissed some government ass today
That new character is pure status quo material of a person… bongo lala
I feel we shall look for this video someday.
The guest didn't even have time to explain himself.... He was being attacked from every angle... I wonder who sponsored todays show 😅
Apparently, they were deliberate in making him lose his train of thought.
They listen to respond not to understand
I feel like he massively won! A very intelligent young man!
Steve Mbogo...you have a point. There is nothing for free. The loans need collertaral state cooperations will be swallowed up. The Nairobi Stock exchange will have one giant foreign hand in it. One day day this company shares will be sold affordably when it will begin to be profitable Kenyans will buy into it and that's how they will recoup there money and go under. Hosts in this show you should just have allowed Steve to say all he wanted. We now you have to protect your jobs
Everything is in plain sight!!
This is really miserable and depressing 😢
These Interviewers are *always* obstacle to free flow of ideas...they keep changing the discourse
True mbogo is right and very informative
Steve Mbogo has been stoned, literally by the supposedly hosts, just like the other Stephen in the Bible. You would think he invited himself.
Manze
Spice protecting there salary
Deep down wanjua amsema ukweli
MBogo sees all thing as they are but the rest are looking at thing based on ways things should do.. in that sense, this thing happening arounnd including the housing is a long con by the external figures. move to the counties of KIambu and neiboring MUrang'a, all their space is now blocks which will in turn make the ways of living difficult.. the coming of these external companies buying into kenyan company will just give them too much control over what decisions these companies will make
Hello Ndu, Spice fm?
I agree with Mr. Steve Mbogo, before we went to the last elections, we saw that Ruto went to Chatham House, ask yourself, why?
Manze it's true
Steve is one in a million who have already figured out what is going on in the world
Githeri media at its best. All of these spice fm are closeted UDA. Even CT Muga
For this interview spice fm revealed themselves as playing the role of controlled opposition.
As for Mark, his body language betrayed him; he was just listening to respond and not understand. He was probably perturbed by being educated by a young turk 😅
Today media now are supporting the government kwani mliambiwa aje😅
Wanaogopa CAK wasifunge station 😅
@@kabuthakabutha9472 employee mentality.
I listened to Mbogo on Lynn Ngugi's show and I couldn't understand how anyone with average knowledge of national and international affairs can give him any grade better than a C minus. This guy has the intelligence of the average curious undergraduate freshman student at Masinde Muliro University.
You have completely changed the topic. I have listened to Mbogo somewhere else, I tell you, you would have given him time and you would have been educated. Only fools cannot see it.
Only a business person will understand the challenges faced while doing business. The interviewers are employed, they only understand their paychecks.
Why was everyone so jittery today? Let it flow! 👁Allow peoples minds to open up.
if you want to understand what Mr. Mbogo is saying,read the King Alfred report AKA Project Rex84 report. This guy has gone deep. there is so many issues discussed there including desertification in AFRIKA.
In my opinion, Mr. Mbogo has a very strong message. In his bold statements, he reveals things that have been hidden from the common citizen for years. Someday, one starts to wonder who these 'systems' are that we keep mentioning... what they are and how they work
My sentiments exactly
So they brought this guy here to tell him what they know or argue with him or persuade him to follow their way or have him hear what they know or use him to let us know what they think or expend time and come out exhausted.
I'd have just walked out the interview. The disrespect alone makes me question the legitimacy of those 3 employees.
Mark, you are talking about banking in 1990, when bank managers knew their customers by their first names!
Dude is a weakling
Waste of time, I believe we can have the highest caliber of guests please? That was painful to watch.
Ohhhh my goodness, am disappointed in the panelists 😞. Why did you invite him just to interrupt he's chain of thought!!!!!!!
The presenters need to tell us whether this show is an interview or a debate
He is correct...dont listen to a "leaders" words....WATCH the actions!
The first time I listened to Mbogo on this topic was on Iko Nini. He actually said the same same things. The issue with coming to the Hot Seat, one must realise that the session is being ran by journalists. One of the principles of journalism is verifiable evidence to back up any claims. For me it is very clear.
Whilst the claims Mbogo is making may be true or partially true, the lack of verifiable evidence to back his argument has led to alot of his arguments being rejected.
Where was the proof from the so called journalists that what Mbogo said is not true?
Jimmy Wanjigi is the one who told them that borrowing is for development only but CT was categorical that it was all legally passed by parliament which is not true. Eurobond was not passed by parliament and the PFMA does not allow for Kenya to transact from offshore accounts but through the consolidated account.
Ndu is an ineffective host and without Latiff, this show would deteriorate into a shouting match real quick. They owe Mbogo an apology.
@@kijana2030 when presenting a theory it is your work to provide irrefutable proof to your claims not the other way round. Example when working on a thesis at the end of it you *defend* it
@wanjohimuriuki4726 This was not a thesis, and it's not a theory. These things happened. He even gave dates in 1946. Even CT said it began before then.
The issue was that Nduh wanted to discuss the hustler narrative in the Kenyan context. When Mbogo went outside her script, she lost it and didn't give him space to connect it all together.
Bottom line, the show was a shouting match and painful to watch.
@@kijana2030exactly 💯
@@kijana2030Well said..
Steve Mbogo is raising pertinent issues. I find it abhorrent when some apologists pretend not to know what new world order is
Good discussion
Comrades we need a law that is called "foreign agents" we need to pass that law it's our immunity backbone hope that it's good in us and all Kenya's. for example Ethiopian the passed that"bill" long time ago. I hope you will look into it if it's our advantage or our friends foreigners.
Restrictions actually exist, they do not care about the reputation.
It's suppotive documents they require, tangible evidence i.e paper work.
Wooooo...Finally
The president should abide by all laws! Even one law not followed is a crime,
I didn't expect steve to outsmart this 3 guys😂😂
I heard nothing today. It's just a noisy room here
😂how would you hear when you are deaf and blind to facts
why invite the guest and play safe? let the guest make his points
The interruption from the paneling group does not potray the best of it and the viewer's expect.
Steve knows the truth, why call him for interview if you know everything, next time y'all be quite let him talk.. we are tired of sweet lies,
How i wish Eric Latiff wasn't absent .
Mbogo Im not with you on the excuse youre giving the president. However your points are absolutely correct on the new world order and breaking of sovereignty of nations. Actually the citizens are viewed as the problem not as an asset by the new world order.
The interviewers are useless. What Steve is putting across is a very important foundation of a very good debate. Whoever controls what you eat controls you. That is exactly the agenda they want to introduce in agricultural sector 😊
Steve Mbogo said alot and managed to say very little. he is like a magician
Give mbogo time,,he is speaking the truth,,if we are not careful, we will find ourselves in a fix.
Mark Bichachi had an issue with Steve Mbogo, dude couldn't allow Steve to ooze his views😂
Im telling you. He mouths too much without content.
This panel is not ready for this conversation..
Seems like the Hosts live in a bubble!
On this one, Spice team you let us down. It reminds me of the atmosphere in 2020/2021 when certain prominent global media outlets seemed determined to monopolize the narrative around what constituted a conspiracy theory rather than allowing the individual to express their perspective freely and then examining it objectively without prejudice. In today's interview, there was a tendency to dismiss or shut down viewpoints that deviated from a "prescribed narrative". As events continue to unfold and more information comes to light, we may look back at this exchange and question why there was an absence of probing, nuanced inquiry. You appeared content to take a pedestrian approach, neglecting the opportunity for a deeper exploration of the claims being put forth. The handling of this interview in my opinion, could be viewed as symptomatic of a broader societal failure to engage with controversial or unorthodox ideas in an open and impartial manner.
Situation room please, you sit in a very important place to Kenyans so, call a spade a spade. Remember thr bill He is on record saying "Let us see the one who votes against"
Spice fm is not ready to have this conversation
Actually Mbogo has strong points he just didn't come out strong. Just do some bit of homework and you will actually agree with him.
Through our debt our economy is actually externally controlled. Our gvt is also externally controlled as well.
The sending of police to Haiti, is a good example. The taxing of Fuel through VAT is as a result of IMF.
Mbogos points have been summarilly dismissed by gross blanket generalizations.
The honours are on Mbogo to polishup his urguments, come with a bag of facts and not accept or rather fight these easy generalisations.
The global control of sovereign nations have its fingerprints everywhere.
Yes he totally understand the international geo-politics better, just polish his presentation.
If only Steve would have brought up the role of Economic Hitman......
This man: Mark Bichachi is talking too much theory which doesn't apply to this country. Steve Mbogo is communicating very valid points affecting the kenyan citizen
This was so hard to watch bro. 2 men here acting like school boys who are competing to impress a girl. Arrogance and Ignorance is a dangerous combination. Steve Mbogo did great in keeping his composure. I would have walked out
STEVE WISDOM
Mark bichachi talking about "Reputation" In banking...!!! Outright incorrect... You can build a reputation then launder money...
What are we supposed to read Mr Mbogo. Have you ever written anything in agriculture, for example?
When pres Ruto came in to power he lifted GMO seeds and so forth........
Just follow geopolitics news, via vantage (first post online news)
wisdom Kende
Steve Mbogo is well informed. Ndu and CT were a disgrace in this interview
Uninformed broadcasting always get the news late ,when sunami is at the door then they keep quiet n accept in silence
I was sure Mr Steve Mbogo was headed 2 losing 10M to one Raila Odinga up to the moment when ODM maestro showed up from nowhere,headed 2 Mukuru 4 the political jig.😂 Steve is putting it as it is. Bravo.
With mpesa you no longer need cash. Can't remember the last time I used cash.
Smart guys and seriously are you saying you have not heard of new world order?? Steve Mbogo is totally on point.
This panel hates misinformation and hotair, this is a factual space. Steve Mbogo will do well to base his views on facts....Vayolens is important
What did he say that was not factual?
Everything
@@nickmuchiri1531 wacha Mwangi a respond. Stop trolling.
I wish Eric Latiff was here then I wonder what you all would say. Eric would have dismantled the conspiracy of the guests. The panelists are right. Mbogo's assertion are based on lack of specific evidence, plus he makes it harder with his jerky flow of thought. Big up Ndu, Mark and Ct!
Interviewers ain't Woke and it's time people open their eyes and see.
Just read the comments and I'm not watching the interview,,seems everyone is disappointed by the media
Surely someone asking whether it was in our interests to send our soldiers to Congo; as we discuss the legitimacy of sending the same to Haiti!!! Is the asker for lack of a better word, someone living in Kenya??? Or just in awe of the president or hoping for a favour; because of appearing to be in support of sending our soldiers to a butchery! People be very sincere; we cannot compare Congo with Haiti. The latter is a butchery. Former Chief Justice Mutunga just confirmed our worst fears; the first dispatch has already casualties returned in plastic bags. Which family is ready for that scenario. Kenyans complaints were that formerly the Kenya police were sent to places where it was required to just monitor peace in situations where anarchy had not escalated like the Haiti confrontations. This is a serious war zone, more suited for the army rather than the police.
CT muga anatetea sahani yake. 😅
Eric latiff could give time then ask question.......this man has master his staff well this are jus wasting time and hindering the ingiting conversation.......